BMW 5 Series Saloon 2010-2016 (F10) review | Mat Watson Reviews
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- The F10 BMW 5 Series was a big executive car with class-leading handling - Mat gets behind the wheel to give you his verdict.
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I think that's the best 5 series ever made. It still looks good now in 2022 it's timeless, hasn't aged like other cars.
even the 2010 model looks amazing.
@@Arda972 just bought the 2010 version as a 20 year old student. All my friends envy me
@@blackmart6441 yo i’m thinking about getting one. doesn’t it have a huge engine(like 4.4 Litre?!?!) so wouldn’t that be expensive tax/insurance wise?(or can you afford it)
@@julienfutbol5780 You should make sure that you have a proper income yes, I get around alot since my workplace is 30km away from me. So in total including insurance and tax I pay a little bit less than 500 bucks (germany). The fuel consumption is great tho. 7.6 liters max
@@blackmart6441 ahh i see. that’s no problem then. and how is the maintenance cost/reliability? you haven’t had any problems with it yet?
Foot on the BMW badge?!? CarWow has now been: DECONSECRATED !!! 😂
I love the design of the F10, it still looks nice.
I think the design (exterior) is so underrated.
My favorite looking BMW, ever. Exterior is beauty.
I think it’s the most elegant modern BMW. You really feel like a successful business man driving one of these even in 2023. You are still respected if you drive one of these in 2023. People take you seriously when you have a nice car.
@@Ashw1115facts I have a 2016 m sport
@@Ashw1115 Yeah and the new 5 Series looks unfortunality really ugly and not even like a real BMW, it's just a shame...
Just got my 520d a month ago and it's brilliant! Used just over 60L diesel and done more than 1000kms with a good mix of inner city/motorway & spirited driving up mountain twisties. The 8 speed auto is very smooth and acceleration pretty good for such a big car.
How is your bmw now? Do you still got it?
I remember watching this when it first came out and wanted to get one so bad as my next car. Luckily I somehow managed to buy a 2015 BMW 550i fully loaded a little towards the end of 2016. Like many who buy cars, I watched a ton of videos to making sure I’m making the right choice. The f10 series right now are literally dirt cheap and if you’re really thinking about buying one then here are some suggestions and “mini-review” I have that differs a bit from the video.
1.) run-flat tires really kill this car even with the suspension option. When Matt says that the car drives really comfortably idk if he’s comparing it to a Mclaren but the ride quality is honestly more sporty than comfortable. You can definitely feel all the bumps in the road.
2.) I’ve owned Toyota’s and much cheaper cars before I bought my 5 series and there’s honestly no difference in interior noise. The BMW is not a quiet car to drive in. In fact my Lexus RX 2015 is much quieter to drive in than the 5 series.
2.) Yes, the car is definitely a sporty drive and if you put it in sport mode you really can feel a difference but the steering feel is not really direct at all. There seems to be some massive dead-zones and heavy feel of the steering wheel in sports mode that doesn’t really make you feel connected to the road.
3.) the interior cubbies and storage areas are non-existent in this car. Literally i don’t have a decent place to put my phone other than putting it in the side cubby on the door (which will fit sunglasses at best) or put it away in the side hidden compartment on the driver side.
4.) reliability, after 4 years of ownership I haven’t had any major issues with the car at all which is definitely a plus. I did hear of some common issues that you might encounter (mainly engine) but I haven’t yet.
5.) if you get the 550i, know that it’s jerky at low speeds. The 550i model has just so much power and it just doesn’t do well when you’re driving around in the parking lot and out of the neighborhood.
5.) the iDrive entertainment is literally trash lol. Idk why Matt loves this system but it’s literally the biggest pain to get through. I literally need to spend 4 minutes every morning just to connect my phone to the car via Bluetooth just because it’s hidden behind so many settings and most of the times it never auto connects. Regarding the navigation, there’s not a place where I can store my home address so I could find it within a few clicks. The only thing provided is address through contacts or previous destinations.
6.) trunk space is actually decent. I’ve surprisingly made quite a few ikea runs with my BMW without a problem. Just make sure the model you’re buying has fold down rear seats.
7.) the driver assistance systems are high key useless and a gimmick. The blind spot monitor doesn’t work half the time and for comparison the Lexus blind spot is a wonder compared to this. For example, the blind spot monitor only goes off when the car next to you is literally way too close to you. The lane keep assist is nice but it’s not active lane keep (only works at speeds 40 MPH+) and many times it doesn’t register the lane markings. The active collision or whatever it’s called never went off when I was legit close to a collision but always goes off randomly when I’m just driving normally. (Not tailgating and I checked with BMW service and they said it’s all working normally).
8.) if you want to buy, find a car spec with heads up display. This is definitely a BMW redeeming feature and it’s absolutely amazing. Also find one with the upgraded executive seats and not the entry trim seats, upgraded seats are much more comfortable. Lastly, BUY THE X-drive model. Where I live is wet, and with rear wheel drive this car literally is a nightmare with traction.
9.) visibility at the front is ok since you’re sitting a bit low. It’s actually decent on your blind spots and the rear pillars don’t get too much into your way.
Overall, in the US a used 2015-2016 BMW 5 is a great bargain and you’d benefit from buying one. You can probably also bling out and look “successful” as most people literally cannot tell the difference between the f10 and g30 generations.
Hope this helps :) reply with questions and hopefully I can answer them
I think you just need to read manual as your phone should connect itself after pairing was done
Mike UK thanks genius. I’m saying that after you pair the phone still won’t connect automatically all the time. In fact, loads of times the setting says im connected but I’m not.
I fully agree on most terms, however (I own a 2013 520d model), stating that it's "not a quiet car to travel in" is 100% incorrect. Sure, it's not the most quiet car on the planet, but it definitely is a quiet car if you're not used to top range Mercedes, Range Rovers and Rolls Royces. Also iDrive absolutely is a great system to use. Yeah it's not as intuitive as your smartphone or anything, but if you compare it to it's competitors' systems from the 2010-2015 era it's the best you can get.
I can also gladly confirm reliability is great, it has never let me down, nor have I ever had to spend more than 800 for a service.
Something I'd like to add for potential second hand buyers: Whereas I've never driven the manual version, the drivetrain with the automatic is an absolute dream. It's quick, it doesn't jerk at maneuvering speeds, it's silky smooth and you don't even know what gear your in at any given moment. It's so good that it's actually fun to use in manual mode with the paddels (note: this is an optional extra).
For everyone with further questions: feel free to hit me up as well, it's not a cheap car if you pick the wrong one lol ;)
@@tj349 Great points for sure, thanks for sharing! I think everything we agreed on can be very subjective based on the previous cars we've been in which definitely impacts how we perceive the current model.
Definitely can see your point in which the ride is quiet. I've been in a few upper end cars (S-class, Lexus LS, and many large SUVs), higher end cars coupled with non run-flats definitely make them a dream to ride in compared to this car. I can agree that this is quiet but I just expected it to be much better compared to mid tier cars relative to this being a "high tier" car ( in poor man terms ofc). In perspective the 2015 5 series got a minor tweak in its suspension compared the the 2013 version and I still feel it's bad in terms of road noise and comfort.
Again the infotainment boils down to which system you've used previously and which one you got the hang of and got use to it. I would say overall the idrive is awesome but I didn't like it because there were obvious things that were so practical from Merc and even Lexus that were missing from the iDrive system.
Lastly, your point on the drivetrain is great but its incredibly important to note that it applies to your model of the 520i and probably the 530 and 535i but it does not apply to the 550i. A straight six and a turbo 4 found in the cars I specified are smooth, regardless at what speed you're driving. The V8 found in the 550i as well as the m5 are not smooth at all at low speeds and its a pain.
Also one more thing I would like to add, with BMW 5 depreciation, I would recommend you buy the g30 generation and skip the f10 generation. The price point is about 5-10k apart which is not a lot at all considering the amount of reworks and new features on the g30 generation. The F10 is already slightly starting to age (done amazingly well since its launch) and it does look old even to random people on the streets. Because the new mild refresh of the G30 just came out and it looks identical to the old g30, getting the G platform 5 series is your best bet!
How nice of BMW to include heated seats, sat nav and xenons as standard at the end of the F10s run. You can be sure as hell they weren't standard when it was released.
+1. Typical and yes everything was an option at the start. I mean everything!! It's coming to end of its life cycle now. Hence BMW strategy just like every other manufacturer. Give them everything because we'll have the new 5 series on the road soon. Money on everything being an optional extra on the new 5 series. 1000%
still the F10 looks darn good and can be manufactured til 2020 without going obsolete
You know... you guys do really good reviews. I'm American and I normally prefer American car reviewers. You Sir, are my favorite. Informative and entertaining. Plus, I've been dying for a 2016 5 series review... and like magic it's here on your channel. Inspired!
Think you used the A6 clip at 2:45 for the rear passenger space
Wow you are right. It's certainly not the 5 series reviewed in the video.
definitely wasn't a 5 series sedan they showed there.
whaaaat lol how did you notice that
+tino matic because the A6 seats are more comfortable stylish and don't look like they are from a cheap car and they have adjustable headrests in the front so it looks a lot different
+Chatta290 you wish they are more comfortable and some people like the simple looking seats!!and if this looks cheap to you,you should really check your eyes
i own a 2013 550i and im still in love with it, perfect driving machine !!
kkk 7977 nice car, i have 2013 530d
@LexifyGamer Even the 520d model my dad had wasn't great for fuel economy he only got around 36mpg
@LexifyGamer no he had a 2014 model
@@jamessaunders4265 it's true I have 520d f11 and it's far from what we expected but who cares?
My wife drives it most of the time and she will never understand smooth driving methods
@LexifyGamer they are not that bad. It also depends on how you choose to drive it. If i compare to other brands BMW is actually pretty economic. Its not a light weight car or smth, dunno what u want. A 2000 kilo ferrari that does 1l/100km when full throtteling to 360km/h 24/7?
0:08 .. He aggressively disrespects the BMW company and then smiles..
Get over it
weird options on that car. M styling, M steering wheel, side-view, top end navigation, but no folding rear seats.
someone was penny pinching in the wrong place.
btw, lumbar support is included if you select the comfort front seats, they're also full electric and come with memory.
Exactly
No why would you need folding rear seats? The boot is big enough.
TotalMadnessMan IKEA trips :-)
Other than that, it's good to have when you're moving, or taking the car to visit relatives in another country. you then need lots of room for luggage.
Verliebt
yeah if you do that what my family and i never do ^^
And 18" rims? Come on. At least get the 19" ones.
I would get the beautiful red leather seats . Brings the car to a whole new level in interior looks.
You guys from @carwow did a mistake in cutting the video :p when you show us the rear seat with 3 passenger, it's actually the A6 and not the 5 series. Most probably didn't noticed, but the design of the seats and the C pillar window proves that it's from Audi :)
Why would they show u the bmw if they want u to watch it..
good observation :-))
Classic design and value for money now. Decent to work on if you do your own repairs. Don’t do the manual. The auto is so smooth.
It looks brilliant in white
its a supercar, not a car, i like only serie 5 bmws , diesel one
BMW 530D Xdrive Luxury Line ❤❤❤😘
i like your new blue jacket, the car is ok too 😊
Why is it always raining when Matt is reviewing a Bima ?
looking more and more like Alan Partridge every day.
Jesus H Christ who travels with three adults in the back!!!!!!!!
BiodegradeableMan bank robbers
Tanveer Akbar 😄
@@K20TypeR lmao
The KKK
People with friends
I recently went in a new 3.0d 3 series. The acceleration was frightening.
Matt why is the Park light (5;53) on it whilst you were driving?
How is the handling in this?
Last 5’er I’ll ever own. They went cheap after this gen
Cant wait to buy a 535d soon! Ashame theres no wagon version in Australia
To get around the high prices, it's better proposal as used car which i m seriously considering
Why haven't you mentioned anything about the timing chains that have a tendency to "stretch" , especially on the 2ltr diesel.?
These are things potential buyers need to know about?!
@bob bob Exactly my point !! You were reviewing the F10 but you didn't mention the issues mentioned. I know about the new engines but it wasn't these I was on about. ?
love ur reviews matt!
The pedals are supposed to be to the right because only one foot should be operating them :I
They actually started making this in 2009
Hey Mat, how are you? I've really appreciated this review. This is a very nice car, I think everyone would like to have one.
But, that's a problem. When you are talking about practicality, and three people in the back, I've noticed that you have filmed the Audi backseats. Just get a revise on that.
Can we expect an Alfa Romeo Giulia review in the (near) future? Really looking forward to more reviews of that beauty.
My first car! Well the 550
love this car
why did they show the back seats of the audi a7 when testing if three people can sit comfortably
i thing this f10 its the finnest bmw desing, since e60 start it
BMW 5 Series: will drain your wallet
Not mine..
Navi and heated leather seats as standard. :) Dude visist Sweden, here you barley get alloy wheels as standard. Dunno how many cloth seats F10 i've seen.
I have this car. It's a great one. Very fast indeed.
Is it worth geting 2015/2016 520d version now in 2020 (to 80k km)? Because alternative for the price of used f10 is new golf(basic version). What do you guys think?
VW's are garbage, you will regret it for getting one!
A bigger, more modern e39
Great review! Keep them coming Mat!
cant believe you didn't talk about the rest of the engines available. v8?
its a beast
Later on he be racing 1000hp F90s from evolve 😂
drive on the right side of the road instead of having the steering wheel on the passenger side. i thought the driver was supposed to drive?
I've got 530d loads of specs.
Nice review.. thanks
What is this recommended now in 2020?
Foot on a BMW badge unacceptable
Amit Mangat so rude
That's what i thought
Love it from a Audi driver..😉
VSY nobody loves you
Lil Notoriginal 😗
seriously? you put your foot on bmw logo?
+jacobpbp loool
+jacobpbp That's if you own the car. The thing is, you don't.
What the Fuck ?
Does he even have s 5 series, how did he did that ?
nakul singh No, what I mean is he has no rights to crticize what Mat does to the car since it's not his anyways. It's a press car after all.
I think he has a secret hate for BMW, he also made a video where he discussed the lenght of BMW's drivers willly plus their ego copmaring it to a gear leaver.
the interior of this car is simple but yet looks and feels super expensive, it looks much better than the mercedes e class inside out, no plastic in the BMW like he said!
Yep
Can you tell me if the 2013 bmw 5 series contains ambient lighting?
@@harkaran_637 nope, unless you are talking about the ambient light underneath the central mirror
@@karzem1 how about 2015's F90 5 series? I am talking about that slim tube kinda thing on the dashboard
@@harkaran_637 yes i believe so because my gfs 2020 g30 530i has them
Pedals aren't offset in left-hand drive, too bad for UK. :)
hahaha nice one
The RWD system is the best thing about all BMWs Pliz stop complaining about the stupid middle passenger space in the back who gives a flying f***
About that .
+Barzan H.saeed Middle passengers.
carwow zasca
they should've called the window seat. lol
Yes because you will always go sideways in your crappy tractor 520d
@@AliveGhost13 not unless you try to slowly murder the engine with some performance upgrades
You shouldn't do what you did in the start.🤔 It's the goodwill of the Company, you shouldn't put your shoe on it...!!!!!! Hit like if you agree guys!
Tanay Agarwal it probably doesn't do more damage than a small rock hitting it at 40
officiallynrgxlr8tr that's not the point man - it's disrespectful
Fairly inoffensive and unintentional imo.
Tanay Agarwal is a way to get
shut up....
3:11 Nigerian scammer haha
3:27 you say that about every car maybe you have offset legs?
Thats mean!
but funny... :D
For some reason it happens to most cars when they're converted for Britbongland
it's mostly because he drives cars with the steering wheel on the wrong side. most cars are designed for normal driving position and have to be adapted to UK style.
hahahahhahahah I never knew off set invented till he made me aware... now I have offset complex.
@ verliebt-considering all of these cars are being designed, developed and manufactured in Europe I venture to guess you are incorrect.
one of the best cars, ever!!!
best overall car definetly
Agreed, as the 530d or 535d
One of the worst cars ever made.
Just test drove a 2015 one, 520d. Rattling noisy engine which felt really underpowered for that body, normal suspension like in any other car, very dated oldschool feeling interior, handling like in any other car. Disappointing.
@@akuskus lol, probably drove a base with no options. Its night and day when you drive a fully loaded 535 with the DHP. You get what you pay for or willing to pay for.
Such a smart looking car, love it’s design
Matt! Very happy you did your own channel here, was sick of the carbuyer reviews without you, keep up the great job, def. best reviewer out there!
Why in the hell are you putting your foot on such a beautiful car Matt Watson?? I love Carwow, but i REALLY LOVE BMW. That was stupid and unnessecary...... :(
5:55 - I thought he was driving on an empty tank, then I saw the speed 😂😂
I own this car, prefacelift 530d Touring. I put 40k km on it since i bought it and its such a pleasure to drive. Comfy but still sporty enough to chase down a B road if you desire and takes less than 6l/100km if you drive it gently.
If someone ever put their foot on my BMW badge, they're getting punched in the gut
I have been watching your videos since CarBuyer and now CarWow. First review i would choose regardless many others. Liked the way you does reviews. But, stepping on the BMW Badge, i believe you have made a lot of BMW fans sad and angry. BMW user and lover from Malaysia.
Don't worry too much about adaptive damping. If you take a standard suspension car and replace the rock hard and low grip runflat tyres with something like a Goodyear eagle assymetric or Michelin pilot sport (non runflat) you have a car which handles and rides much better.
Forget the economy 2.0d does not get you anywhere near 60mpg - low 50's or less is the norm! Leg room in the back is only OK if you have the shortest of people in the front! The suspension mentioned as a must is just under £1k . Some extras are good value but if not specified when built then forget it - such as Interior light pack at £230 (around 17 lights!)and extra 12v sockets at £45.
This is my favorite year 5 series. Best looking.
Timeless design that. In 10 years it’ll still look fresh albeit with the right M Sports kit on it
E39 Looks a bit better
Hahaha love it! Although i would like to see some reviews of the new Volvos (S90 and V90).
Hock Ooi yeah why not?
+Hock Ooi they have
Mitsubishi Toyota ???
Too bad the engines on the Volvo is soo booring.
I got the F11 M Sport. Touch wood, What a car so far
Why do I even look at car reviews I can't even afford. 😐😭
you lost a sub. just because you put your foot on bmw badge.
This is for the executive that enjoys driving. If you dont like driving and see it comparable to doing laundry, you get the Audi.
Feel it's a shame though the manual gearbox isn't up to BMW standard anymore, and the big engines don't even get the manual option at all...
Albin Nygren but they at least still offer it...BMW is not God, they cannot pour money into manuals when only less than 1% of the customers buying a 5series opt for it...
Arven Tahtyan That's true. And sad #savethemanuals
The A6 is a much better car the quality is more superior just look at the back seats of this car and the Audi the luxury is there the 5 series doesn't even have lumbar or a adjustable headrest on the front seats and it looks outdated compared to the A6 we drove both and got the Audi in 2013 even the new facelift Audi looks diff rent to the one we have the blac edition model in less then three years they change it to make sure it doesn't feel outdated and I assure you that the A6 is good to drive although not as engaging as the BMW it doesn't try to, BMW's are made to be sporty to drive Audis are designed to be luxurious and practical what other car allows you to put a 2litre Pepsi bottle upright in every doorbin front and back
Chatta290 haha jealous VW lover spotted
I was a fan of yours.. untill you "rudely" put your foot on the hood of that car...
😂
Proud owner of a E60/61 which I got for £5k. I absolutely love it so can only imagine what this F10 is like.
@@cockshield really. Why the big difference in ride quality?
Must admit my 61 rides very well and it's very quick after its remap.
Just came back to watch this cuz i owned one and one thing doesn't quit sit right with me.. HOW! Or why do you think that the interior isn't better looking than the e class from this generation..?? Like srsly i want to know, cuz the interior on the e class did not age well at all.
i wish u put out this video a year earlier then i would hav fitted my 5 series with adaptive dampers damn...
Please slow down 5 best / worst things recital, its annoying and hard to decipher.
Still good in 2024? I’m looking for 2016
You failed to mention that you're reviewing a 7yrs old car and comparing it to new cars.
Trevor Bennett its 2019 and whenever i see this car on road my heart says OH MAH GAWD.
True
So i just learned that from country to country the definition of "standard" equipment can vary a lot.
Here in Italy, no leather or heated seats as standard... Which is a bit silly for a 50k BMW...
I got it. I enjoy every day. 😎
F10 5 Series makes me proud as a owner .
Still looks great in 2024.
matt please do a review of the new alfa romeo giulia
They took 200 bucks for wiper blades 200 bucks
But still my favourite car
Car is ok, it's just that it looks like both the interior and design haven't changed for 10 years..
I want to see The Big Bottle test in every video.
My current daily car… it actually carried 4 in the rear, had my parents visit & we went London eye with my two kids. All fit in the back seat “comfortably”..
How many large suitcase can you fit at the back?
NO BMW, NO.. THAT FUCKING LINE...RIP. What were they thinking, I honestly am not buying a bmw now because of that fucking stupid line.
Well done matt for putting your foot on the bonnet the 5 series is a piece of shit car plagued with so many issues. Door corrosion, 70 to 80mph vibration, water leak in rear footwell, egr recalls etc etc and all you BMW fanboys about to get butt hurt from my comment go and google the issues before comin at me!
Hey @carwow Matt: I really dig your presenting style and have been watching your reviews since @carbuyer; however, putting your foot on the car, over the badge, is bad taste - please don't do it because... well... it's bad taste.
F10's interior compared to the E class competitor and the new E class is Royal club or on Rolls Royce level compared to the Renault E classes
Are you talking about E class from 2016 on or before 2016
@@Mark-yx4eh before
@@E34-j7x Than its true bc the new W213 is the best looking out of all 3 germans
Always had 330ds but this model 530d looks very appealing
Why would someone in the right state of mind buy this car in 2016?... I mean its a great car, but unless you get a really really good discount on it (which you probably won't) it just doesn't make sense. In Spring 2017 BMW will release the new generation of 5-series and you will just feel stupid driving this car.
Especially, when the new E-class or S90 are on sale, which might have their own disadvantages but are still much newer and better.
P.S. nice joke there with those DVDs haha :) exactly - this 5 series comes from the time when DVDs were at their peak of popularity
Someone who finds it attractive and prefers it to a merc or audi, no matter how old it is.
There are people like that, btw
Alex Krakovskyi that's what I'm saying: if you don't like E-class or A6 (which is as old, so understandably) or S90 etc, than just wait for the new 5-series... And for the same amount of money you are going to get a much much better car.
+Dmitry L I agree we were going to get one in 2013 in September with the newly facelifted one released then but we got the A6 although it's just as old they change it even the facelifted A6 differs a lot from our one in less then three years it's amazing and the A6 doesn't feel outdated they make it work
did you just step on the bmw logo??? ahhh noooo
Fok shit my mate hes got 530 and we can sit at the back 3 people normally why they shaking hands like.. 😁
Who here appreciating the 2015 model after seeing the 2023
65mpg??? What????