As an Ethiopian that’s aware of current politics around the dam, this is by far the most underrated, unbiased, uncomplicated reporting of the issue. Thank you RLL! Also will like to add that Ethiopia is not planning to fill during drought years. we’re not inconsiderate. However it is our right to live, build, prosper over the Nile, and thus will make sure this dam reaches its full operational stage while mitigating all issues Egypt faces regarding water security.
My thoughts are with you. I think ethiopia should be able to better the lives of their own citizens, as long as it doesn't affect the egyptians all too much. Horrifying to think that the egypt might've helped escalate that war
This is an actual *true problem. Neither side is wrong. I hope both parties can come together and figure out a solution. War would be the worst option.
The whole issue is in the hands of politicians and that's what's dangerous. If you the Ethiopians were serious about not filling the dam during drought years then they would have agreed to define what is a drought year. But money is involved and politicians want to fill up the dam as fast as possible, start making money as soon as possible and well... ...making demands to the Egyptians from a position of power as early as possible.
the thing is if Egypt blows up the dam, about 74 billion cubic meters of water would flood Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, and severely damage the surrounding areas.
@@sammyjpeg8322 depends on how they react. If emotionally they'll fight against the Egyptians, if they are being logical they will firstly take any territory from Ethiopia that they had been previously disputing while they are weak and then turn on the Egyptians later in retributions if they are still feeling hurt about it or if the Egyptians don't pay reparations for the damages. I think they will forgive the Egyptians if they get a massive land grab and get compensated for the damages. That's just my theory.
As an Egyptian, I am fully for the development of the world. I hope that both Egypt and Ethiopia can find a mutually beneficial resolution without hindering the development of either of the countries growth.
as an Ethiopian, i fully agreee with u. we ethiopians dont need another war since there already ENOUGH bloodshed going on in our country. i hope we figure things out peacefully.
What are the most logical reasons for conflict that are not well known besides water? What are the most irrational reasons for conflict you are most concerned have unhealthy popular support?
Here is the latest update after the video: Five months after this video was released, Ethiopia announced that it had completed the fourth and final filling of the dam without causing any harm to Egypt. This contradicts Egypt's claim that it should take 11 to 20 years to fill the dam, exposing the Egyptian government's falsification of the research for political gain over Ethiopia rather than water security. For Ethiopians, however, the dam is a vital project that will improve the lives of tens of millions of people.
Water conflicts are becoming increasingly common. Similar cases are happening between Turkey and Iraq with dams along the Tigris and Euphrates as well as in South & Southeast Asia where China's dams in Tibet are threatening major rivers like the Indus, Brahmaputra, Ganges & Mekong
Your comment is entirely correct except for the Indus. The river Indus itself and it's eastern tributaries run from India into Pakistan. For Pakistan it is India that threatens water security rather than China.
And even the Russians and Chinese had a dispute over water, Northern China is facing a water crisis and when Chinese companies began buying up land around Lake Baikal, the Russian government stepped in and vetoed all of them
Once again an issue that I had no clue about being well researched and presented. Thank you so much for your work, I enjoy these videos alot! Also thanks to the natives commenting in all the videos who point out things that might be wrong, always fun to see all the sides of the issue and try to learn what's percieved as "correct" :)
the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times
the European union once floated the idea of filling the dam in 15 years and Egypt would pay Ethiopia for delaying the filling. but with the economic situation in Egypt that ship has long sailed into the abyss.
It also doesn't help that in that situation, Egypt is still losing money from the dam being filled at all, so having to pay money to also lose money from it being filled would be completely unfair from Egypt's perspective. It a situation like that Ethiopia would reasonably be expected to pay the Egyptians, but they obviously don't have the economic capability to do so, and as such there is no compromise that would be fair to both sides.
@@donotcare57656 why on earth would ethiopia pay. Ethiopia benefit by filing the dam as quickly as possible. when the time duration increases egypt wins and Ethiopia loses billions.
You have the best geopolitical analysis channel on UA-cam. Not only is it well researched but your presentation is also extremely concise and there's no repetition.
Yup. RLL is my go-to for geopolitics on UA-cam. I watched a couple of the episodes on Nebula and will say that you have to be prepared for those. They make the UA-cam fare look like family entertainment. He doesn't hold back from showing the true extent of the violence and suffering of the people in the Nebula videos. It's very informative, but it can also be difficult to watch. Proceed with caution...
Hello from Ethiopia, it's been more than a year since I found and subscribed to your channel. I love your voice and your animations are awesome. Thanks for covering my country's issue with Egypt.
@@falconeagle3655 When did Ethiopia ever say that? Egypt did all it could to prevent Ethiopia from securing fundings for the project to even take shape. This conflict is going to turn into a proxy war between the West and China since many people in West are convinced China is behind the GERD.
I think quite a similar situation is happening along the Mekong river in Southeast Asia. Its amazing how easy people overlook rivers as a geopolitical issue.
@ Moh, U r the best person to ask this question Super power China built six dam over Mekong river 30 years ago. My question is does China dry up the river what happend to Myanmar, Thailand, Lao PDR, Cambodia and Viet Nam.
@@ዋሰ Funny that you think China can dry up the river when their basin only supplies 15% of total water of the Mekong river. And I'm saying that as a Vietnamese.
As a Sudanese I want to add one thing. Since the filling of dam has already begun the Sudanese government will never cooperate with Egypt to strike the dam, because billions of cubic metres of water will flow through the Nile. Sudan dams are incapable of handling the massive amount of water at once, thus all the city along the nile are threatened with drowning. However, the only option for Sudan is to negotiate an agreement with Ethiopia and Egypt. In fact since 2020 Sudan has more concerns about the dam's safety than its filling.
Yeah, I noticed that danger to Sudan too. And if the Aswan dam can't handle the full pulse of water from the Gerd, Egypt could have that happen there too.
I am amazed that someone is willing to objectively present an unbiased view of this highly volatile situation. I was starting to believe that it was no longer possible. Thank you for this insightful presentation. It is greatly appreciated.
Very unfortunate but I find it fascinating when there's no "real" evil side in a conflict. Just two sides that want to do what would benefit them the most.
Yeah, that's the reality of scarcity. You won't see countries with abundant water going to war with each other over water, but having resources has always been a fundamental basis of conflict in the world's history. The thing is, war has never actually resulted in a net benefit for anybody, at any point in time -- it costs far more to wage war than the net gain of the resources obtained would provide.
Ethiopia is building the dam for the development of its country, but there are many ways and many projects through which they can do so instead of threatening the lives of Egyptians and Sudanese as well and cutting off their water supply.
And that is why most of the wars happen. But in this case I dont see war happening because neither of the countries can reach other without violating another countrys zone.
@@zezomohamed9750 plenty of Ethiopians are dying because they don't have access to electricity, medical care, and poor infrastructure, but you've forgotten that, at the end of the day, i don't tell you what to do on your land, and you don't tell me what to do on mine . Did Egypt consult and share profits from the Aswan dam with Ethiopia? The answer is no, so you can take your hypocrisy elsewhere
Hey there, thanks for sharing your perspective as an Ethiopian on the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam and the current political tensions surrounding it. It's great to hear that Real Life Lore's reporting on this issue is accurate and informative.
🤣Ethiopia is “messy” and we are here for the tea 💕, the Afro heritage country who conquered anti-Africa troops from European Italy, in all choosable names, picking “renaissance” for the GERD hahaha yes! Ethiopia forever!
It's absolutely crazy that I've never once heard of the Tigray war, a conflict that killed perhaps x20 as many in the war in Ukraine. They're both horrific tragedies but it's just crazy that one of them never gets mentioned.
I agree. We here in Ukraine were too busy to follow something like this, too. However, it's not x20 killed compared to Ukraine, it's in the same ballpark (so far) if you count civilian lives too. Mariupol alone was a city of half a million population, it was very nearly levelled, no one knows how many survived. It's just too hard to count at this point, so estimates are giving the lowest confirmed number of victims possible.
There was no war in Tigray. It is a war of Tigray against their own people. It is the same war as Bin Laden's Alquida and ISIS. Bin laden and ISIS declared war against their own Muslims and ended the way they did. And, similarily, Tigray terrorists declared war against every neighboring people and ended slaughtering their own Tigrayans.
9 minutes in and I'm thinking "damn, I just learned a lot about something I had no idea about and didn't think I'd even care about, but here I am, fascinated". You're an amazing teacher and I look forward to the rest of this, just wanted to express the feeling.
This could either be a great opportunity for both countries cooperation in reaching common goals, improve their citizens lives and their respective regions, or a disastrous step for both countries to clash, ruin their citizens lives, destabilize the surrounding regions and create waves of refugees. Something tells me that it's more prone to end up the second way, but there are always surprises so, it might also end up differently.
What common goals? Did you even watch the video? The whole reason that war might start is because there isn't a common goal that they can reach through cooperation, since every outcome is to the detriment of both sides.
@@donotcare57656 that's why they said "or". they are saying it could be good or bad depending on a whole bunch of factors and that only time will tell. definitely something to watch, i myself have yet to make up my mind on this situation.
@@donotcare57656 just because a reallifelore video hasn't given them a solution doesn't mean there ISNT a solution. The idea that there's no possibility for cooperation is just rhetoric both sides use to justify their violence, and it's idiotic that RLL promotes it. There IS room for compromise. Unfortunately, these regions are far too prone to tribal/ethnic/religious violence and military overreach to find it, and have depended too much on the UN peacekeeping, diplomatic missions or Russian paramilitary forces for conflict resolution. Pretending there's no room for diplomacy is warmongering.
i would expect a diplomatic stalemate, also sudan is ignored a lot even though they´re quite literaly, in the middle of it all, at least not talked about as much
It's so sad that I never heard anything about this conflict before. I try to be aware of these types of dark episodes and this is a horrible example of if there's someone who doesn't want to share information about something, you can hardly find anything about it. Thank you so much for creating this video, it was really amazing and moving. I hope the UA-cam algorithm doesn't discourage you from sharing these types of conflicts. Greetings from Mexico.
the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times
@@TUTENSKENGS they dont that study was talking about 1 mummy found in the sinai peninsula near the levant while the rest of the dynastic mummies matched with horn african populations like afar tribe somali and nubian haplogroups aswell as cranial morphology
@@TUTENSKENGS No! Ancient egyptians were black in race as accounted by several biblical and romans accounts, but the ethnicity changed with time as Egypt traded, was invaded and conquered by arabic nations
This is so much better than watching the news in the states. I have only heard a little bit about this, and definitely not from both perspectives. Thank you for sharing all of this information.
Very informative and engaging. It's clear that water scarcity is a major issue in the region, and the potential for conflict over access to water is a cause for concern. Our film crew shed a light on the Ennedi Plateau in northeastern Chad, which is located around 1,500 kilometers to the west of the Nile. This area was once a subtropical climate with large lakes and the Yellow Nile, which was the third main tributary to the River Nile. However, the Yellow Nile has now disappeared, leaving only a few subterranean caverns filled with water, such as the Guelta of Archei. This water source is critical for thousands of camels and several animal species in the region, including the West African crocodile. That's crucial when discussing conflicts in the Nile region, as it highlights the larger issue of water scarcity in the surrounding areas. Thank you for addressing this complex topic.
This is the most inconsiderate and selfish article . "Abay river,", including its tributary rivers, have been nurturing Egypt, for hundreds of years, with fertile soil and water. Egypt should be thankful for that. Now Ethiopia has completed building the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam on the Abay river,also known as Blue Nile river after it has crossed the Ethiopian border. . It is about time that Ethiopia begins using its own resources. Several studies on the dam have indicated that Egypt still benefits from the riiver flow. But the core of this article that circles around, "Egypt is Nile and Nile Egypt" is highly inconsiderate and selfish.
The thing I'd ACTUALLY be worried about if I were in Egypt's position isn't the water, a hydroelectric dam will likely only temporarily interrupt that. (though even a slim risk of any sort of long term decrease is understandably terrifying...) but the interruption of those eroded nutrients. A hydroelectric dam would harvest energy from the water flows, slowing them down further, meaning they'd be able to carry less material the full distance to egypt. Other solutions to replenish lost water capacity can be implemented, Israel and Arabia both make excellent use of desalination as just one example, but the sources of raw materials for artificial fertilizer are quickly getting depleted. (at current consumption they'll only last 100 years or so.).
Additionally Addis Abba could take advantage of its needed desilting to transfer those nutrients rich sediments to its own farmland as natural fertilizer reducing the need for artificial fertilizer and ensuring tje longterm productivity of its own agricultural base.
I don't know much about your nation, is it a democracy? Are you able to put pressure on your politicians to come to the negotiation table with reasonable assurances and to agree to binding resolutions?
@Ras Yared the tone of your disrespect towards someone better than you , tells me that you don't have good parents. Ibnal Kalb is what God sees you as .. a misguided child.
I was in Ethiopia last year during the war but it didn’t seem like there was one going on. Life seemed like normal in the capital, can’t believe 600k were killed. That’s crazy.
Fun fact, in autumn/winter of 2019/2020, Egypt recieved more than 3-4 times the annual rainfall, causing flash floods that may have helped in water supply, but also caused multiple deaths. Monitoring possible wet/dry periods could help resolve this issue, whereas more filling in the wet years and less in drier years.
You're expecting common sense from politicians. Also while that would be good in the scenario of a _binding agreement_ Ethiopia seems to be hell bent on doing as they please, pardon the pun, damn the consequences.
This is not at all a fun fact.. and also, countries don't function like that. You, as a single person, would be mega scared if all your watter supply is controlled by any of your neighbours. The watter supply of a whole country generates the same anxiousness multiplied milions of times. Plus, GERD can be used as a wepon in more than 1 way. Monitoring wet/dry periods is good, but only under strict contract of conduct.
23:12 It seems like Ethiopia did actually unilaterally with their fills but, they did them in the rainy season. They did not want to slow the average water flow, but kept their excess water for themselves. that seems like a good compromise. I think as long as they do not restrict from the average flow rate, it is fair.
Ethiopia has the right to defer water to help devote its own country. That agreement between the UK and Egypt is not something that Ethiopia is beholden to as they did not sign on to that.
@@JamesWhite-fz3et asking 100million people to sit on their hands and die is a great way to cause a war, regardless of whatever perceptions of "rights" you may have.
We were talking about borders yesterday at work. It makes the most sense to draw boundaries along drainage basins. This would avoid many of the conflicts we see today.
Yes, how many times have country boundaries created by a few people in power caused endless turmoil when it would have been far better to consider drainage basins and ethnic groups as measures in deciding where the boundaries should be.
it is factual but its not the TRUTH. Truth and facts are not the same. You can omit some facts. like for example the white boys are securing 🇬🇧UK cotton industry in Egypt... that is who control and market Egyptian cotton. #2 Egypt was an Anglo Colony and received USA military donation because of #1 and the RedSea they dont want Somalia controlling. #3 3:30 the invasion from the North and East is how Caucasians got into Africa FACT A: SUDAN has more pyramids than Egypt there are no white OR arab tribes in Africa that built those; to lead the story with presumed ownership of ancient Egypt is a lie FACT B: The nile and the Ethiopians are the only AFRICANS here and AFRICA IS FOR AFRICANS
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel. Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do? Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
@@lamartinezola8507 Israel has no part in these issues, it's not even remotely within their power to intervene. Their remit is only to exist as a stepping stone to the east for the west, that is the sole reason that the western powers have supported the formation of the Israeli nation and its continued existence.
As an Egyptian, I am really impressed how clearly and unbiased you presented the facts. I am also really glad you highlighted the Tigray disaster. Western Media is acting like it does not exist, and all we ever hear about is Russia and Ukraine. While that is a disaster as well, it is absolutely dwarfed by what happened in the Tigray version in terms of misery and loss of life. You have my sub, good sir.
Egypt citing the water agreement is quite hilarious given not only it's unilateral nature but the fact that they themselves broke the treaty with Britain by seizing the canals.
The canal was already going back to Egypt in 1965-66 and Egypt didn't seize it in the traditional sense. They bought all the shares at an above-average market price and simply told the British soldiers that they were not needed for protection as that was the official reason they still stayed in the canal. Managing and protecting it. Something that the Egyptians have done very well themselves.
@@NTLuck , Wasnt there an invasion by the Brits, the French and the Israelis against Egypt to take back the Suez from thenew nation of Egypt. Its the US and USSR who told the invaders to back off.
@@SIX598 It came extremely close to ending the Egyptian government. The only reason the Egyptian government even survived was because the USA was looking to assert itself as the dominant global power, and was looking for an excuse to kick the teeth in the former European powers. Even if that meant aiding the Soviet Union, who backed Egypt. They later regretted the decision because the Egyptian government was incredibly anti Semitic, and indeed the Suez Canal ended up being closed anyway because they tried to distract from domestic failings with a nice bit of genocide against the Jews, and their attempted invasion of Israel ended up causing so much damage to the canal it remained closed until Egypt tried ANOTHER war, by which point the US finally had enough and that’s why US Israeli relations are so tight now. In conclusion, nationalising the Suez Canal only worked because the US decided to act against their own best interests just to make a point, and the benefits were undone a decade later when they accidentally closed the canal for a decade. In what universe was it a good decision?
Funny timing for this video, I just returned from Egypt where I visited the high dam and Lake Nasser among other areas. The locals are quite concerned about this issue and it’s well presented here. It’s like you heard me talking and released this video, learned a lot more about it as well. A couple further things to consider as well are the Egyptian governments current investments in to irrigation canals and developing of the south of the country in general. This will take further water from the lake and ensure more people live in the more dry southern egyptian climate.
Yes - maybe. But what does that do for the Ethiopians who have had massive challenges with drought and starvation over the last few decades? They matter too.
@@Whistlewalk I never said they didn’t. I was simply informing of additional context that can strain relations for this scenario. Egypts water demands are only increasing along with the above mentioned infrastructure development. I’m not taking a side, just adding some further context about the increased interest Egypts government and citizens have with ensuring water accessibility at this period of time. The Dam would be great for Ethiopia, I hope they can continue its utilization and reach their goals, while Egypt and Sudan don’t also need to struggle further. It’s a tough situation all around and I hope they can find an amiable solution.
To me the only peacefull ending is for egypt to pay the potential productivity of the dam. U cant prevent populations from benefiting from the dam, and at the same time use the river to your full advantage.
Dear Mr. RealLifeLore, I have a suggestion for your Modern Conflicts series. How about you cover the 2001 war in Macedonia. It's not very well known or covered and I'm sure millions of people in the 'Balkans' would be interested. Keep up the great work!
You could see 'The Operations Room' cover parts of the conflict in the future. They actually covered a story during the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel. Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do? Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
Egypt is a country in the Middle East, very far from Ethiopia, and the Nile River is the longest river in the world, passing through 13 countries, then flowing into Egypt in Alexandria into the Mediterranean Sea.
Amazing reporting! I wish more people would seek out content like this before voicing their opinions on various geopolitical conflicts and situations. A truly amazing job of laying out the facts in a clear and unbiased way. Thank you.
Something I haven’t seen mentioned is that Egypt holds an ace in its sleeve regarding sanctions. They can absolutely shut the suez to any country that participated in sanctions.
A similar situation exists in the US. Much of the agricultural water for Northern Mexico, Southern California and Eastern Arizona comes from the Colorado River. Las Vegas, Nevada with 3 million inhabitants, depends on the Colorado for its existence. There are treaties in place to control this flow but have been fiercely debated since the 1940s The main problem in both regions is manic overpopulation.
And that overpopulation is exacerbated by the entire country’s compulsive obsession with unsustainable car-dependent urban sprawl that has already resulted in catastrophe and will only worsen with further expansion and population growth. It’s urbanization but backwards!
@@wildfire9280 Cars do not consume water, i mean they have bit for cooling, but it is not consumed in gallons per day, not even per year. Main problem are large grass patches in those suburbs that require huge amounts of water each day. (Perhaps dry gardens would be better options) But even then that is not main problem. That is agriculture that is taking huge amounts of water from both rivers and aquifers.
@@MrToradragon they aren't talking about cars, they are talking about car-dependent URBAN SPRAWL. As in spreading out an urban area to the point that the only way to traverse it is in a car. Those large grass patches that make up large suburbs is also a part of car-dependent urban sprawl.
Unbiased! Tell us about the alleged atrocities committed by Ethiopian armed forces and Amhara Fano militias Eritrea armed forces. You buy in to such a BS fake news crap?
As Egyptian, I wish all the best to brothers and sisters of Ethiopia, and I wish they understand that we have no chance to survive without the water of Nile
I understand how valuable the river is to Egypt but why is it that only you should be able to take advantage of the Nile including the parts that Egypt has never controlled?
@@Idleo that makes sense but then there’s the problem of what incentive would Ethiopia have to deny their poverty stricken people electricity for years on end. That’s a tough ask of another nation without some kind of benefit in exchange. I’m hoping for the best outcome for both sides but like reallifelore said, one side needs the dam and the other would be effectively destroyed by the dam
Ahmed Ibrahim, your comment is what is needed in this time of division and hate. I am an Ethiopian . There are many powers which are visible and murky who levitate in the affairs of others. Few years ago I was on a vacation about 110 km outside of Addis Abeba Ethiopia with my children. I met two Egyptians and we started talking about many issues as we watched our children swim together in harmony. I know it's very simplistic to compare childrens play to water security, but whoever put this doomsday scenario video probably would like to see war between us. If one of us or both deal in despotism, that might create an environment of doom. I read long ago "there is no victory in war"! I hope both our nations,which are ancient, will be seasoned enough not to choose a path of war! A war with no possibility of success.
Been following the channel for over a year and you can see that he puts in a massive effort and research into the matter or any issue he covers and I really want to appreciate what you do. Although there’re historical issues between Egypt and Ethiopia, our leaders should be wise enough to avoid any form of conflict which will drag the countries back and undermine the efforts that these countries made in terms of improving the lives of their respective citizens up to this point. War should never be a choice, we’ve seen more than enough of that.
If ethiopia refuses to negotiate there isn't much egypt can do except war, be it bad or not for egypt in the long term, they don't really have a choice
@@gewnurb Did you not watch the video? Egypt wanting to go by the colonialism agreement to keep acting like they own the whole river (which is an observation enforced by a lot of the comments coming from the Egyptians in this comment section) is not "negotiating". It also isn't virtuous to only NOW go "hey we should cooperate for mutual benefit and share control of the river" when Egypt has lost the full control that Britain gave it without Ethiopia's input. In the U.S, our Colorado River has a resource-sharing agreement between each state the river moves through. None of this nonsense of strong-arming those at the source of the river to not be allowed to use their own resource, then complaining when they finally seize the opportunity to start doing so.
@@Vaeldarg ethiopia have always been a marginalized country with with barbaric and toxic people they cannot just came in 21st century and decide to domine the whole water resources the life of egyptian people is more important than the jewish black ethiopians they will for that we will conquer their whole country and and enslave 120 million ethiopian bro👍👍
@@Vaeldarg I did, egypt is trying to negotiate a slow filling of the dam, but ethiopia is trying to fill it in 7 years, which would probably cause an egyptian famine. Like I said, if ethiopia doesn't want to negotiate the time to fill the dam, egypt will be forced to go to war, or the people will starve to death. If California closed the colorado, would the other states simply accept it?
@@gewnurb "if California closed the colorado" That's the point of the agreement. California CAN'T unilaterally close the whole river. Ethiopia isn't negotiating because they're pressing upon Egypt the idea that they no longer can force Ethiopia to go by what Egypt wants for an Ethiopian resource. It's just Egypt being a bully not being able to stand that it's victim has been able to wrestle autonomy back for themselves, and childishly threatening start throwing a tantrum if things don't go back to going as they want it to go.
Excellent documentary and thanks for sharing. Here in the States we remember the words of our famous philosopher Mart Twain as he summed things up so very well. He said "Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting over!" Best of luck to all of us.
Amazing video. 3 points. -Evaporation proofing and desalination are the keys to water security for all nations. -Water wars need more coverage and assistance in solutions. -Filling the GERD during monsoons seems like a very reasonable thing to do.
our military unit used desalination exclusively as our water supply in e. africa. it's expensive! but i agree, necessary. innovation will overcome this challenge, i believe.
So there is a reason as to why desalinization hasn’t taken off, and that’s because it makes the coastal waters toxic for any sea life because it just dumps all of that salt back into the ocean. So while good here and there and for communities with little other choice, if you were to do it widespread up and down coasts you’d destroy local ecosystems by making the water too salty for many organisms to live.
@@JustSomeDude42 the salt could be deposited on land pretty easily. Free sea salt too. This shouldn’t be a valid excuse. The energy intensity shouldn’t be a valid excuse either. It’s a simple filtration. I’m not sure what the real hold ups are. I think Israel and some Middle East countries do it. With the caliber of our elected officials i guess I’m not surprised it’s taking so long. I guess we’ll wait until we really need it, or until our rainfall/snowfall capture is better and we never need it.
What's sad is that we keep hearing about countries that are likely to go to war with each other rather than countries agreeing to unite and help each other overcome their difficulties. It's unfortunate when i think about it.
If it makes you feel any better, Burkina Faso and Mali’s leaders discussed a potential unification recently in order to help better combat terrorism in both countries. It’ll probably never happen, but at least it’s countries wanting to cooperate
@@slipperyelf-4207 Yes they are capable but to weak. It won't be just Ethiopia. It will be Kenya,turkey, Iran Eritrea and others who respond. Egypts government is SHAKY. They can't handle a conflict this big.
@@RUTHLESSambition5 Okay so it seems you haven't seen recent developments ,First off Turkey will not attack Egypt as they are trying to fix relations with the Arab countries which one of them is Egypt ,2nd Iran is also try to fix realtions with the Arab countries after the Chinese deal so that rules out two of the biggest threats you just listed and please don't tell me that Iran and Turkey will chose a single country against a whole region
@@RUTHLESSambition5 also how is a government that has a leader that has strong connections to the Army ,"shaky" Also we're not the ones with a crippled army . We also have the global world on our side after we repeatedly tried using the diplomatic option and you guys have refused to the point we're the former president of America said that we will blow up the dam if it ever reaches the point of being a significant threat
This is very complex yet so simple. Neither side is wrong. If the Nile originated in Egypt, I highly doubt they would let a sub Saharan African country force them to tone down. This would make a great college case study. If had to choose, I side slightly with Ethiopia since it’s in their own country.
Yes but still if it puts Egypt at risk then it's still a problem regardless. It's like saying a mother can abort because the baby is in her own body. Ur still killing
@@Tarek_ElMaddahsuch an idiotic thing to say!!! Who are you to decide what happens to a sovereign country? Since when do our life not matter? What gives you the right? How about you mind your own business.
Real Life Lore is the best channel on you tube. The videos are so informative and well put together. The accuracy of fact is indisputable. Its thumbs up and alerts for new videos for me . I'm even considering paying for nebulous (sp) so I can see more of their videos. Please keep the videos coming
Thank you for taking your time making this video. I would have probably never learned about this conflict in detail had I not taken the time to watch this doumentary. GREAT CONTENT!
I had no idea about this issue before just now. This kind of content is important because traditional news sources aren't really reporting anything but U.S. political garbage.
Striking GERD would probably devast downstream areas in Sudan and Egypt. The flood water would enter major cities and ruin the agriculture in both countries from the flood water coming down all at once. In addition, wheat exporters could cut imports in the event of a strike to Ethiopia and the force them to negotiations. I want the best of both counties and wish the success for them.
@@AlphaGeekgirl They could theoretically strike the generators alone. This wouldn’t actually release any water, but would sent a clear signal: if you don’t play nice, we will prevent you ever generating power and then what’s the point.
Indeed, striking the dam is not an option, which is probably why Ethiopia is so confident. Egypt will not die of thirst, just suffer economic consequences, and both Egypt and Ethiopia know that Egypt can only live with it. I’ll be happy when this is over.
@@omaralkammash9225 That's requiring Sudan not only open its airspace to Egypt, but also ground forces. Essentially Sudan has to join Egypt in war. Maybe they do, but Sudan does benefit from the Aswan dam as Ethiopia will sell the electricity. Also Sudan does not depend on the water as much as Egypt does. I don't see Sudan letting Egypt wall straight through, especially with the Bir Tawil issue. Edit: Actually, Hala'ib Triangle. Bir Tawil is the empty desert.
Hey RealLifeLore, love these videos so much! Video suggestion: what do you think about covering the ongoing war in the DRC (which would be a great opportunity to also explain conflict minerals, supply chains, and the BRI)!!! Edit: I know I posted this on a different video, just wanted to repeat the message.
The problem is, UA-cam is incredibly harsh with community guidelines, and if the topic is too violent, YT would pull down that video, and RLL would be forced to restrict the video to Nebula. It is the same reason why most of the war topics are restricted to Nebula.
@@prabhatsourya3883That's simply not true. UA-cam has a LOT of coverage of the war in Ukraine. The Nebula rhetoric is simply a sales pitch and I wouldn't be surprised if it is paid for by Nebula.
I respect and empathize both countries to be fair, so sad they struggle to find solution that is going to be satisfying to everyone. I honestly would even send my own money donation if it could help them develop the region and prevent the war even though I am half the world away and it won't affect me at all.
Thank you, Sir. I am just an old Marine Colonel of the earliest Vietnam War Era. Anyone who is as unselfish as you so obviously show yourself to be has to be quite a man. Respectfully, Col./Plasma Professor of Electro-Optics/Plasma Physics and Quantum Electrodynamics at Stanford University - unfortunately now long ago. Paid dearly for all of the many injuries in Vietnam - shot own in helicopters 6 times, 11 bullets through me. The pain is extreme and incessant.
@@wuodanstrasse5631May G_d bless & keep you and yours safe, healthy & happy. My faith dictates that your bodily pains are erased, reducing each day. 🙏✝️❤
Either we have stopped listening to the scholars or we driven them mad with our civil abilities to argue over rhetoric. With invested engineering there must be a way to build such projects which share the wealth incrementally. We have forced "?them?", to pay attention to the environment how much more are we obligated per-invested in making sure we live in peace? YVO
@@wuodanstrasse5631 thank you, unfortunately missed your comment back then so sorry for answering only now. fun fact is that I am also an engineer, micro- and nanoelectronics by education and software engineering by my actual job though I am Ukrainian and mobilized to the Armed Forces of Ukraine as an officer right now. interesting coincidence. I am sorry for your wounds and pain, hope you lived and keep living a good life nevertheless and wish you a good health 🤝
Thanks again for these amazing, well made and detailed videos RLL. Always glad to see it. Also all these things I pretty much never knew about until I watch your videos. Thanks again!
Please do more content on the numerous other conflicts in Africa, (Sudan, South Sudan, Libya, Niger, CAR, DRC, Burkina Faso, Somalia, etc.) it really doesn’t get enough coverage especially with our current media outlets
For blacks in America for blacks in Yemen for blacks in Haiti for blacks in France for blacks around the world please be inconsiderate they'll kill us with no problems help us out Ethiopia pretty please with a cherry on top
If Egypt and Ethiopia do go to war with each other, it could make the potential migrant crisis heading into Europe even worse. Just as the chaos from the Ukraine war in Europe is making things rougher for North and East Africa, the potential chaos from fighting in North and East Africa could create more problems for Europe. It would be a disaster coming full circle.
I believe at least that an agreement is much more easily mediated between Egypt and Ethiopia since neither side benefits from Conflict, but each could benefit from increase investments in their countries to help them combat their own national issues.
Yes, and I know that is/would be a massive political issue. However, after watching this video with 'this side' of the issue, I wonder if a a few ten thousands of willing-to-work migrants into Europe isn't a slightly smaller problem than potential millions of deaths from starvation and war in Egypt, Sudan, and Ethiopia? I sincerely hope that it won't come to that and they will work out a way so that everyone thrives, even if that happens over a longer time scale.
It's worrying in more than one way that I have to learn stuff like this thanks to youtube. Not to drop dump on YT (I love this site and this channel), but how is it possible that our society came to the point where I learn stuff here and not from mainstream media or school or the government? I feel like there's a lot to unpack in this. That said, thank you so much for sharing this, being more informed is what let us grow and learn as humans and as a society; so, again, thanks ^^
That's all thanks to the fact that we live on a planet that is dominated by capitalism and therefore the MSM(the vast majority being privately owned)will only show you news that's either profitable, upholds the illusion that capitalism is the end-all-be-all economic system, or both. UA-cam is one of the few unrestricted sources of news available to us and is why a lot of younger people are here to get our news. Of course there are UA-camrs who are in it just for the money(profit), with many of them being directly funded by the capitalists(the vast majority of US right-wing "news" UA-camrs being directly funded by the Koch Brothers, for example), but we do have legitimate sources like RLL here and friends who help us learn about what's actually happening on our planet!
@@marshalldrew4809 at this point honestly I can't trust anybody not to be biased; everyone is, but... you're right, some are way more than others, and since mainstream media doesn't have the kind of dialogue that UA-camr has, the power dynamic is different. I would not trust them, still, it would be nice to even know anything about this from other sources
@@Moss_knight00 I'm italian and I wasn't aware of the conflict that has been going on in Donbass, Ukraine for 8 years. I had no idea that few meters from my doorstep fellow europeans were suffering, no idea it had been going on for so many years, and I'm pretty well informed. It was something that no reportage or news site talked about, we had extremely detailed documentaries about Afghanistan, Syria or some other country far away from our continent, but nothing about what was in our neighborhood. A year ago media finally started to talk about it, obviously, but I still don't understand how they simply never mentioned it for so many years, it's incredible how much media manipulates information and what it wants or doesn't want you to know even in the internet era.
This conflict has been brewing for decades. I was at a lecture in the 1980s and even then this area was highlighted as potentially the first 'water war', simply because so many people are dependent on the Nile.
I didn’t know how big this wars death toll was. Serves as another reminder that the modern world we live in is subject to the same conflicts most have only read about in history books.
That's unsurprising, the Nile has been extremely important for the region through millennia, to the point that the British conquerors made a country out of a great percentage of the Nile basin that was named Sudan.
Khartoum geography with the Nile is so under-appreciated . Khartoum metropolitan area has population over 8 million people and it's rapidly growing so Khartoum is expected to be from top 10 largest cities in the world by 2100 ( according to the UN ) The white Nile and blue Nile join in Khartoum to form the river Nile, so the three rivers divide the city into three cities: 1-Khartoum proper where the presidential palace is situated its the financial capital of Sudan because it full of companies and banks headquarters and has the biggest stock market in the country. 2-Omudurman is the most populated city of the three and it called city of peoples because it is where the federal parliament is situated and it has the main sport and cultural centers of the country . In the morning, the direction of the transportation is from Omudurman to Khartoum proper while in the evening its vise versa. 3- Khartoum North it is an industrial center where lots of factories and oil refineries are located
I was there in 2017 and i could see the difference by the color of the white nile and blue nile and both joining with a visible line in the Middleton of the water .
I enjoy these videos so much. Thank you, Realifelore, again . The historical research is so important. Water is becoming increasingly important in many countries.
I had an University project on exactly this dam in Ethiopia and wrote a story called “war on water” and found that the chance for a war on water in this century was 75 till 90%, the largest chance was, indeed on the Nile. Nice to see this video about exactly this from a channel that I watch since a long time ago
There's a somewhat similar situation in Central Asia at the moment. Uzbekistan is dependent on a pair of rivers for their massive cotton production and other critical economic and societal aspects. If Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan ever dam one or both of the rivers for power or other infrastructure desires, war is almost guaranteed to break out immediately.
The central Asian Stans were really set up to fail even by their borders alone, let alone their geography. Let’s hope there’s a peaceful resolution - maybe some economic reparations, output sharing, or other cooperative way forwards
Heads of state need to act and think intelligently and not like 5 year olds. The Ethiopian leaders are clearly self-centered, narrow-minded and begging for war. But what else is new about Ethiopian leadership. I actually think the world would sympathize with Egypt. I know I would.
@@wildfire9280 I’m pretty sure it was intentional. Even as early as the Russian Empire, they were playing around with the borders so the Stans would have some of each other’s ethnic groups. It’s imperialism 101, you have the locals be too busy hating each other so that they can’t rebel against you.
To begin with the reporting, this is the only objective video ever presented on this very sensitive issue. As an Ethiopian I want to ask a question for those watching this video. Lets talk the other way. If blue nile was originating from Egypt and it planned to build a dam, would she be open for negotiations with Ethiopia? I really appreciate your comments on this.
We planted 4 billion trees in the last 20 years and clean the source of nile lake tana from water sucking trees so is it acceptable to say Egypt can say a word about a nile? As we planted trees to bring rain to feed nile with water also capable of destroying trees to dry nile.
I don't see why this question matters. First of all, we cannot know the answer for sure. Most importantly though, does one side making the wrong choice justify the other side doing the same ? I do not belive so.
That is a crime against humanity. It is the definition of a peacetime war crime. Innocents would die in the millions, and the world would be obligated to punish Ethiopia for such a despicable act.
You know, that fact that Ethiopia decided only to fill their dam during rainy monsoons seasons sounds like a good compromise. They could've cut the water outright, but they're being considerate to countries down river. In all honesty, I think the real issue Egypt has is losing control over the Nile. CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL. That's what this is really about.
What control are you talking about? It is a matter of life or death.. Indeed, it's a somewhat good step on their part, because they don't want to rush into wars or turn countries against them.. But if their intention are good, why do they refuse to cooperate and make a commitment to not affect the other countries, and all these discussions end
@@nourelsabah748 What a scummer r u, just because it is life and death situation who tell u u can take water. Hold on let expaned in ur logic if my two kidney failed I can take ur kidney because I have a life and death situation All Egypt can ask is her share of water not even one drop of water more. When Ethiopia suffered feminine in 1980 and many times after that we never blamed Egypt for taking our water while we r hit by starvation
@@nourelsabah748 This could have been avoided decades ago if England hadn't intervened and allowed Ethiopia to build their dam back when the climate was better. The fact that they were robbed of nearly a century of development by restricting activities within their borders by collusion with European powers probably makes them reluctant to overly involve outsiders and especially Westerners again. They don't care if Sub Saharan Africa develops at all. Egypt's attempts to get them to accept mediation from the US or the UN were likely not received well for this reason. Had they started by going to the African Union first, perhaps this might have gone differently but we'll never know.
Great video! 😄 I'm happy there is somebody who is trying to cover crucial conflicts in modern history. It would be great to see more videos about Africa 👀♥️
I just read a paper linking Blue Nile volume to the El Niño oscillation. El Niño caused less water and La Niña caused more water flow. Well, during the last few years we've had La Nina, but now we are likely heading into an El Nino, which does not bode well for the pace of filling the reservoir and potential droughts.
Mr.Mikkelsen, Ethiopia fill GERD 3 times 1st filling took 15 days 2nd filling took 15 days 3rd filling took 15 day No body noticed even we fill the GERD Remaining filling r 4 Pray it is not beyond the capacity of water the GERD hold if is to much rain the left over WI floaded Sudan just like 2022 fload Sudan must have GERD the phone hot Lind to tell us to hold more water and save them from spending billion of dollars and life of Sudan
I wouldn't say it was exactly "protected from outside invaders". It's been invaded by every large-scale invader in history; the Tatars, the Achaemenids, the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs, the French, the British, the Italians. Heck, even the crusades took some parts from Egypt.
The video got that part really wrong. The sinai peninsula is mostly desert, but the coastal regions in the mediterenean are habitable, and since the distance from the levant, another population center in the region, to the nile in egypt, means that invasions from that direction were pretty common. Egypt became arab for a reason
@@HistoricalWeapons Not really. The Mongols fought the Mamlukes of Egypt in the Levant and Syria. The Mongols could not get to Egypt without conquering the Crusaders.
Yea ,well most of the Empires you listed were global empires at there prime. Also Egypt was weak so yea its terrain maybe defensive but if you're army is unequipped, then having defensive ground is worth nothing.
Videos like this is what makes UA-cam/the internet so amazing. As a swedish person I have almost no stake in this conflict at all. I hadn't even heard of it before, I think. The only possible connection from the region, I can think of, is a noticeable increase in Eritrean migrants to Europe and Sweden in recent years. I guess that could further increase if this isn't resolved peacefully in the years to come. Thanks for continuesly educating the world, RealLifeLore! Amazing job!
that's what you know only. the world is connected in very interesting ways we don't realize. depending upon only on your mind doesn't really make sense thinking with your own mind, isn't it ? reading history might enlighten in these could've-never-guessed connections. we're all related, living under the same sky
Yes this conflict could affect the whole region of Horn of Africa. I remember back in Eritrea everyone was anticipating some disastrous outcome already in 2011. But 10 years later they seem to have come to some middle ground. The death of former Meles Zenawi could have eased the tension I guess because it was him who started the project. In the case of Eritreans like me Ethiopia is now in 2023 claiming a pathway to the Red Sea namely Assab. If this continues it will be none like other war in that region. I live in Sörmland by the way.
Cause and effect always go together. Regarding immigrants, citizens in western countries shall accept as the world has changed and should pressure their politicians from going around and creating war. The funny thing, the politicians again play game inside their country by creating hate against immigrants. If America/NATO didnt destroy Iraq, you wont see majority of Iraqian immigrants Same thing works for Syria, Lybia,Afghanistan,…. Behind that behind all conflicts and dictator governments in third world, there are western powers or their intelligence in exploiting resources by creating instability. When it comes to this specific Egypt case; England and USA are behind Egypt to benefit from their interest in the middle-east. If egypt is not backed by such arrogant western powers, it wouldnt hesitate to sit and dialogue with its counter part for win-win solution.
The Gurd dam, at 3.5 million acre-feet, is a tiny fraction of the Aswan high dam at 136 million acre feet, and the Gurd does not even straddle the entire Nile (as stated). I think they can work it out without violence.
@@luku.111 the dam total output is not depending by how much the land taken. It was depend how wide it is how many turbine packed and how high is the water to generate the energy potential needed.
Israel is the main financier behind the dam in Ethiopia, followed by United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, the main purpose of the dam is to generate electricity to Ethiopia to sell back to Israel while Israel has full access over the dam to blackmail Egypt to give them away Sinai and access to nile's water in exchange to allow Egyptians to live with bare minimum water possible. It's a plan dated back to 2011~2013 where the entire plot and financiers were revealed, and the main plan is to force Egypt to allow Israel to build massive pipelines from the nile to Israel, giving Israel to protect such pipeline and have ownerships of all lands it passes through and only after it reaches Israel, they will share some of it with United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. On it's on, Egypt don't mind Ethiopia building their dam as long it doesn't cause a massive risk to over 200m innocent people who could die in the process, instead of building average sized dams, Ethiopia Is building a mega-dam, filling it with a massive rate that goes against every safety standard there is, risking it's collapse and massacaring entirety of Sudan from a massive flood. Instead of hearing to what UN said to follow the safety standards and reach a peaceful solution which doesn't remove Ethiopia's right to build their dam, they gave the middle finger to both Egypt and UN cause it's against Israel's interest to hault the filling or construction cause it goes against Israel's interest and brand you as Zionist in the process. Let me ask you this at the end, if someone live on first floor, does this grant them the right to break the pipes and remove water access from all floors above?
So both countries should invest in stopping deforestation in Central Africa region and plant more trees there as it would create bigger water moisture heading towards the Ethiopian mountains and eventually as water through Nile
And population control, imo we cant just have more and more people on the planet, there are going to be too many conflicts over resources as the world population grows and grows. We need to stop growth imo.
The water comes from the Indian ocean tho... Don't get me wrong, I'm all for planting more trees (as long as it's done right and you dont just slap hundreds of the same invasive tree into an area and say your work is done) but that's a different issue.
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel. Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do? Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
I hope there's more room for the scientific community on the table. I have read amazing peer reviewed works discussing the issue and offering quite insightful solutions and compromises! I am Egyptian and I pray for all our glorious Nile Basin nations to thrive and prosper!
RLL thanks for making these videos. I like to think I'm up to date on most of what is going on in the world, but this video made me see that I am horribly ignorant to what is going on in Africa especially regarding the 21st century water crisis.
As an Ethiopian, I hope we can come with a solution that allows Egypt to mitigate its loses while allowing us to utilize our God given right to use our resources and take our people out of poverty.
I believe that international developmental aid could be used to help both sides come to a satisfactory agreement, Ethiopia should get more access to investment for Green Energy development, while giving Egypt aid to develop other projects to ensure its water security.
@@ilo3456 the dam hasn’t been compromising Egypt’s water security. Ethiopia has been meaning to build GERD for decades but the advent of communism put an halt to it.
Take a lesson from the USA and Canada, we share the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River, but most relevant to this conversation is the Moses-Sounders powerdam in Massena, New York and Cornwall, Ontario. The dam straddles the border and provides about 2GW of power split between the two countries, and it helps regulate the water levels of the river and Lake Ontario which is beneficial for trade. (Wendover or one of Sam's channels has a video on the importance of the St. Lawrence Seaway) Control of the dam is by the "International Joint Commission", which has a self explanatory name and it represents the interests of all stake holders as it manages the river. I think the nations of the Nile need to form their own version of the IJC and give it control over all of the dams on the river with representatives from all participating countries with the express goal of trying to maximize everyone's benefits and minimize downsides and spread downsides evenly/fairly. It would require trust, but the only way we can live in a civilized society is by being willing to trust, and accept the risk of betrayal in doing so.
@@lto4827 the dam has been thought of since Emperor Amde Seyon's conquest of Somalia and Sudan. Egypt and the Ottomans were at war with Amde and he terrified the egyptians by threatening to dam the river but then he died so they forgot
Expect more conflict as water becomes more scarce. Humanity failed to unite even when it was in our mutual interest to do so.There's nothing I can say that expresses my sympathy toward those who bare no responsibility, and no apology I can give for my own failure to make a difference. We knew, and yet, here we are.
Do you even understand the reason why the conflict could happen? The reason is that Ethiopia wants to fill the Dam faster not so much for water resources but for hydroelectric power generation, Egypt wants them to fill it slower to avoid problems with the flow volume of the Nile River since Egypt has always been a water poor country which relies solely on the Nile river to get its fresh water for both Agriculture and urban uses. It is not about water being scarce but about the Dam disrupting a river and its natural flow, the main point of conflict is if Ethiopia will get their way and basically fill it as fast as possible without considering the water rights of Egypt and other countries upstream, or if Egypt will get their way and Ethiopia will have to wait longer to have its hydropower up and running, there is plenty of room for negotiation by third parties, like providing Ethiopia economic Aid to develop other sources of renewable power for the time it takes to fill the Dam at a slower rate. Also Humanity is as a matter of fact a lot more united than you give it credit for, we actually are fighting climate change and trying to come up with deals, aid to developing nations by the developed world to help them grow their green energy sectors, I believe we can accomplish it, while we can't stop all the effects of Climate Change we are doing a good job in trying to minimize its severity.
@@ilo3456 Well Duh! This is just one problem, we need to look at the bigger picture. If you want to keep telling yourself we've done/are doing enough, despite scientific consensus saying otherwise, then whatever helps you sleep at night.
It’s the west that prefers to have a slave-master relationship with non-white countries. Humanity won’t unite until the west is destroyed economically or by warfare.
That's exactly what I was thinking man. But hey ig that's what happens when a poor country who has been through and hell and back finally wants to grow for the betterment of the people
I am Egyptian and sadly that's true the economy is made in a way to make the rich richer and they hold all the power in Egypt also we won't give an f because the huge amount of citizens that exist need that water supply and nearly half of our population are farmers so this will hurt a lot of people if it happens but also I hope we find a mutual agreement to fix all this
@@youssefmehana1249 hoping an amicable solution can be found. We need to start working towards strengthening relationships between African countries. One solid continent will win it
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As an Ethiopian that’s aware of current politics around the dam, this is by far the most underrated, unbiased, uncomplicated reporting of the issue. Thank you RLL! Also will like to add that Ethiopia is not planning to fill during drought years. we’re not inconsiderate. However it is our right to live, build, prosper over the Nile, and thus will make sure this dam reaches its full operational stage while mitigating all issues Egypt faces regarding water security.
The worst part about this crisis is that neither side is in the wrong because both only want what’s best for their people
My thoughts are with you. I think ethiopia should be able to better the lives of their own citizens, as long as it doesn't affect the egyptians all too much. Horrifying to think that the egypt might've helped escalate that war
This is an actual *true problem. Neither side is wrong. I hope both parties can come together and figure out a solution. War would be the worst option.
@@damonedrington3453 so true
The whole issue is in the hands of politicians and that's what's dangerous.
If you the Ethiopians were serious about not filling the dam during drought years then they would have agreed to define what is a drought year.
But money is involved and politicians want to fill up the dam as fast as possible, start making money as soon as possible and well...
...making demands to the Egyptians from a position of power as early as possible.
the thing is if Egypt blows up the dam, about 74 billion cubic meters of water would flood Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, and severely damage the surrounding areas.
That's why our dam is still up my boi. The west wishes the destruction of ethiopia. And God will not allow it
Wonder what sudan would do after being flooded
@@sammyjpeg8322 depends on how they react. If emotionally they'll fight against the Egyptians, if they are being logical they will firstly take any territory from Ethiopia that they had been previously disputing while they are weak and then turn on the Egyptians later in retributions if they are still feeling hurt about it or if the Egyptians don't pay reparations for the damages. I think they will forgive the Egyptians if they get a massive land grab and get compensated for the damages. That's just my theory.
@@sammyjpeg8322 I doubt Sudan can do anything about it.
Let's imagine the global response to Egypt blowing up a dam on land that doesn't belong to them
As an Egyptian, I am fully for the development of the world. I hope that both Egypt and Ethiopia can find a mutually beneficial resolution without hindering the development of either of the countries growth.
as an Ethiopian, i fully agreee with u. we ethiopians dont need another war since there already ENOUGH bloodshed going on in our country. i hope we figure things out peacefully.
As an Ethiopian, i agree. I hope our governements do not define our feelings to each other. I hope Egypt grows very well.
Wassup fellow masree
Desalination plants. Your a wealthy country. Build the damn things and tell your leaders to keep their threats to themselves.
What are the most logical reasons for conflict that are not well known besides water?
What are the most irrational reasons for conflict you are most concerned have unhealthy popular support?
Here is the latest update after the video: Five months after this video was released, Ethiopia announced that it had completed the fourth and final filling of the dam without causing any harm to Egypt. This contradicts Egypt's claim that it should take 11 to 20 years to fill the dam, exposing the Egyptian government's falsification of the research for political gain over Ethiopia rather than water security. For Ethiopians, however, the dam is a vital project that will improve the lives of tens of millions of people.
Really?
Thanks dude. Sadly if politicians were honest I might not have watched so many shows about the dam but at least I learned something.
@@mikefabbi5127 The same thing happened when they were building Gibe 3. Activists were saying L Turkana will dry, It has now flooded its banks!
This video told me the Ethiopia have planned to take 7 years to fill the dam. It actually only takes five fillings instead?
Only four fillings, huh?
Water conflicts are becoming increasingly common. Similar cases are happening between Turkey and Iraq with dams along the Tigris and Euphrates as well as in South & Southeast Asia where China's dams in Tibet are threatening major rivers like the Indus, Brahmaputra, Ganges & Mekong
The solution is simple - use contraception to massively reduce the birthrates.
Bro iraq and syria are fucked up
Turkiye is much stronger 😂
this isnt a water conflict. This is a financial conflict with ethiopia willing to disrupt a rover cycle that literally created civilisation for profit
Your comment is entirely correct except for the Indus. The river Indus itself and it's eastern tributaries run from India into Pakistan. For Pakistan it is India that threatens water security rather than China.
And even the Russians and Chinese had a dispute over water, Northern China is facing a water crisis and when Chinese companies began buying up land around Lake Baikal, the Russian government stepped in and vetoed all of them
Once again an issue that I had no clue about being well researched and presented. Thank you so much for your work, I enjoy these videos alot! Also thanks to the natives commenting in all the videos who point out things that might be wrong, always fun to see all the sides of the issue and try to learn what's percieved as "correct" :)
the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times
the European union once floated the idea of filling the dam in 15 years and Egypt would pay Ethiopia for delaying the filling. but with the economic situation in Egypt that ship has long sailed into the abyss.
Into the Abyssinia
@@standardoilofnewjersey4260 Into the Addis
Alternatively, wealthy nations could provide work visas for Egypt’s large underemployed population while the dam is being filled
It also doesn't help that in that situation, Egypt is still losing money from the dam being filled at all, so having to pay money to also lose money from it being filled would be completely unfair from Egypt's perspective.
It a situation like that Ethiopia would reasonably be expected to pay the Egyptians, but they obviously don't have the economic capability to do so, and as such there is no compromise that would be fair to both sides.
@@donotcare57656 why on earth would ethiopia pay. Ethiopia benefit by filing the dam as quickly as possible. when the time duration increases egypt wins and Ethiopia loses billions.
You have the best geopolitical analysis channel on UA-cam. Not only is it well researched but your presentation is also extremely concise and there's no repetition.
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Yup. RLL is my go-to for geopolitics on UA-cam. I watched a couple of the episodes on Nebula and will say that you have to be prepared for those. They make the UA-cam fare look like family entertainment. He doesn't hold back from showing the true extent of the violence and suffering of the people in the Nebula videos. It's very informative, but it can also be difficult to watch. Proceed with caution...
Hello from Ethiopia, it's been more than a year since I found and subscribed to your channel. I love your voice and your animations are awesome. Thanks for covering my country's issue with Egypt.
if this war started Britain may join in because eygpt is there ally?
Your country is basically saying fx you to Egypt.
May I also ask some questions about your country? I'm really curious
@@fidadefoe Go ahead please
@@falconeagle3655 When did Ethiopia ever say that? Egypt did all it could to prevent Ethiopia from securing fundings for the project to even take shape. This conflict is going to turn into a proxy war between the West and China since many people in West are convinced China is behind the GERD.
I think quite a similar situation is happening along the Mekong river in Southeast Asia. Its amazing how easy people overlook rivers as a geopolitical issue.
@ Moh,
U r the best person to ask this question Super power China built six dam over Mekong river 30 years ago.
My question is does China dry up the river what happend to Myanmar, Thailand, Lao PDR, Cambodia and Viet Nam.
Begun, the Water Wars, has....
@@ዋሰ they'll all die from starveness and droughts during summer
@@ዋሰ Funny that you think China can dry up the river when their basin only supplies 15% of total water of the Mekong river. And I'm saying that as a Vietnamese.
@@qnguyen3395
I am just asking the question because that is what Egypt claims if Ethiopia build dam they will die
As a Sudanese I want to add one thing. Since the filling of dam has already begun the Sudanese government will never cooperate with Egypt to strike the dam, because billions of cubic metres of water will flow through the Nile. Sudan dams are incapable of handling the massive amount of water at once, thus all the city along the nile are threatened with drowning. However, the only option for Sudan is to negotiate an agreement with Ethiopia and Egypt. In fact since 2020 Sudan has more concerns about the dam's safety than its filling.
Great input Brother
As an observer from the USA, I hope everything works out amicably between Sudan, Ethiopia and Egypt
Great input
Yeah, I noticed that danger to Sudan too. And if the Aswan dam can't handle the full pulse of water from the Gerd, Egypt could have that happen there too.
How are you doing now with the war going on? Stay strong brother.
I am amazed that someone is willing to objectively present an unbiased view of this highly volatile situation. I was starting to believe that it was no longer possible. Thank you for this insightful presentation. It is greatly appreciated.
Very unfortunate but I find it fascinating when there's no "real" evil side in a conflict. Just two sides that want to do what would benefit them the most.
Yeah, that's the reality of scarcity. You won't see countries with abundant water going to war with each other over water, but having resources has always been a fundamental basis of conflict in the world's history. The thing is, war has never actually resulted in a net benefit for anybody, at any point in time -- it costs far more to wage war than the net gain of the resources obtained would provide.
There is rarely an "evil" side.
Ethiopia is building the dam for the development of its country, but there are many ways and many projects through which they can do so instead of threatening the lives of Egyptians and Sudanese as well and cutting off their water supply.
And that is why most of the wars happen. But in this case I dont see war happening because neither of the countries can reach other without violating another countrys zone.
@@zezomohamed9750 plenty of Ethiopians are dying because they don't have access to electricity, medical care, and poor infrastructure, but you've forgotten that, at the end of the day, i don't tell you what to do on your land, and you don't tell me what to do on mine . Did Egypt consult and share profits from the Aswan dam with Ethiopia? The answer is no, so you can take your hypocrisy elsewhere
Hey there, thanks for sharing your perspective as an Ethiopian on the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam and the current political tensions surrounding it. It's great to hear that Real Life Lore's reporting on this issue is accurate and informative.
GERD is not a Dam!
If this is accurate and informative to you, you must be extremely uninformed living in a zombie land.
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🤣Ethiopia is “messy” and we are here for the tea 💕, the Afro heritage country who conquered anti-Africa troops from European Italy, in all choosable names, picking “renaissance” for the GERD hahaha yes! Ethiopia forever!
@@ዋሰ Then what is it?
It's absolutely crazy that I've never once heard of the Tigray war, a conflict that killed perhaps x20 as many in the war in Ukraine. They're both horrific tragedies but it's just crazy that one of them never gets mentioned.
Its because they are not White like ukrainians. Just simple racism.
First time I heard about it.
I agree. We here in Ukraine were too busy to follow something like this, too. However, it's not x20 killed compared to Ukraine, it's in the same ballpark (so far) if you count civilian lives too. Mariupol alone was a city of half a million population, it was very nearly levelled, no one knows how many survived.
It's just too hard to count at this point, so estimates are giving the lowest confirmed number of victims possible.
Because no one is interested in that region. Theres single terrorists attacks that kill 300-500 people without making news
There was no war in Tigray. It is a war of Tigray against their own people. It is the same war as Bin Laden's Alquida and ISIS. Bin laden and ISIS declared war against their own Muslims and ended the way they did. And, similarily, Tigray terrorists declared war against every neighboring people and ended slaughtering their own Tigrayans.
Thanks
9 minutes in and I'm thinking "damn, I just learned a lot about something I had no idea about and didn't think I'd even care about, but here I am, fascinated". You're an amazing teacher and I look forward to the rest of this, just wanted to express the feeling.
Just so u know GERD is not a Dam
If you are European you should be ready ro receive 50 million africans the next 10 years
“Had no idea” you should, and I’m not going to applaud you for not caring about what’s going on in your world.
@@RizeUp8083 So you think we should be on par with absolutely everything that happens in the world? Not even you I'm sure.
@@soundscape26 not absolutely everything that’s ludicrous but it’s not hard to keep up on the current events that do affect your world
This could either be a great opportunity for both countries cooperation in reaching common goals, improve their citizens lives and their respective regions, or a disastrous step for both countries to clash, ruin their citizens lives, destabilize the surrounding regions and create waves of refugees. Something tells me that it's more prone to end up the second way, but there are always surprises so, it might also end up differently.
What common goals? Did you even watch the video? The whole reason that war might start is because there isn't a common goal that they can reach through cooperation, since every outcome is to the detriment of both sides.
@@donotcare57656 that's why they said "or". they are saying it could be good or bad depending on a whole bunch of factors and that only time will tell. definitely something to watch, i myself have yet to make up my mind on this situation.
@@donotcare57656 just because a reallifelore video hasn't given them a solution doesn't mean there ISNT a solution. The idea that there's no possibility for cooperation is just rhetoric both sides use to justify their violence, and it's idiotic that RLL promotes it.
There IS room for compromise. Unfortunately, these regions are far too prone to tribal/ethnic/religious violence and military overreach to find it, and have depended too much on the UN peacekeeping, diplomatic missions or Russian paramilitary forces for conflict resolution.
Pretending there's no room for diplomacy is warmongering.
@@agxryt No amount of damming is good for Egypt, it can only be bad or less bad depending on how much is dammed and how quickly.
i would expect a diplomatic stalemate, also sudan is ignored a lot even though they´re quite literaly, in the middle of it all, at least not talked about as much
It's so sad that I never heard anything about this conflict before. I try to be aware of these types of dark episodes and this is a horrible example of if there's someone who doesn't want to share information about something, you can hardly find anything about it.
Thank you so much for creating this video, it was really amazing and moving. I hope the UA-cam algorithm doesn't discourage you from sharing these types of conflicts.
Greetings from Mexico.
the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times
Caspian Report did a video on it pretty soon after it started.
Same I typically just end the video when he does the Nebula promotion, but I think I'll actually check it out.
@@TUTENSKENGS they dont that study was talking about 1 mummy found in the sinai peninsula near the levant while the rest of the dynastic mummies matched with horn african populations like afar tribe somali and nubian haplogroups aswell as cranial morphology
@@TUTENSKENGS No! Ancient egyptians were black in race as accounted by several biblical and romans accounts, but the ethnicity changed with time as Egypt traded, was invaded and conquered by arabic nations
This is so much better than watching the news in the states. I have only heard a little bit about this, and definitely not from both perspectives. Thank you for sharing all of this information.
Very informative and engaging. It's clear that water scarcity is a major issue in the region, and the potential for conflict over access to water is a cause for concern. Our film crew shed a light on the Ennedi Plateau in northeastern Chad, which is located around 1,500 kilometers to the west of the Nile. This area was once a subtropical climate with large lakes and the Yellow Nile, which was the third main tributary to the River Nile. However, the Yellow Nile has now disappeared, leaving only a few subterranean caverns filled with water, such as the Guelta of Archei. This water source is critical for thousands of camels and several animal species in the region, including the West African crocodile. That's crucial when discussing conflicts in the Nile region, as it highlights the larger issue of water scarcity in the surrounding areas. Thank you for addressing this complex topic.
90% done ✔️ more dams to come.
@@Zeyede_Seyum 5 more dams coming
@terramater How would you describe the security situation in Chad? Would it be safe to visit independently?
This is the most inconsiderate and selfish article .
"Abay river,", including its tributary rivers, have been nurturing Egypt, for hundreds of years, with fertile soil and water. Egypt should be thankful for that.
Now Ethiopia has completed building the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam on the Abay river,also known as Blue Nile river after it has crossed the Ethiopian border.
. It is about time that Ethiopia begins using its own resources. Several studies on the dam have indicated that Egypt still benefits from the riiver flow. But the core of this article that circles around, "Egypt is Nile and Nile Egypt" is highly inconsiderate and selfish.
@@solz6505 Well, and precise!❤❤
The thing I'd ACTUALLY be worried about if I were in Egypt's position isn't the water, a hydroelectric dam will likely only temporarily interrupt that. (though even a slim risk of any sort of long term decrease is understandably terrifying...) but the interruption of those eroded nutrients. A hydroelectric dam would harvest energy from the water flows, slowing them down further, meaning they'd be able to carry less material the full distance to egypt.
Other solutions to replenish lost water capacity can be implemented, Israel and Arabia both make excellent use of desalination as just one example, but the sources of raw materials for artificial fertilizer are quickly getting depleted. (at current consumption they'll only last 100 years or so.).
Additionally Addis Abba could take advantage of its needed desilting to transfer those nutrients rich sediments to its own farmland as natural fertilizer reducing the need for artificial fertilizer and ensuring tje longterm productivity of its own agricultural base.
As an ethiopian i hope that we could solve this issue peacefully,much love to my egyptian brothers and sisters ❤
I don't know much about your nation, is it a democracy? Are you able to put pressure on your politicians to come to the negotiation table with reasonable assurances and to agree to binding resolutions?
Not the cats?
thanks for your kind words but we maybe affected badly by this
@@frojoe2004 ethiopia is more corrupt then egypt lol. the answer is no
@Ras Yared the tone of your disrespect towards someone better than you , tells me that you don't have good parents.
Ibnal Kalb is what God sees you as .. a misguided child.
@RealLifeLore
I just want to say I love your channel. All of your content is gripping.
I was in Ethiopia last year during the war but it didn’t seem like there was one going on. Life seemed like normal in the capital, can’t believe 600k were killed. That’s crazy.
The capital is insulated from the consequences of the war for the most part.
Ethiopian are really brutal when it comes to armed conflicts. War is a traditional dance for ethiopians
@@obamainpotin6759 where are you from? All war is brutal
Some wars are worse than others. What do you not understand about that? Ethiopias history is riddled with genocidal wars
Poor mentality killing over 600k for no legitimate reason
Fun fact, in autumn/winter of 2019/2020, Egypt recieved more than 3-4 times the annual rainfall, causing flash floods that may have helped in water supply, but also caused multiple deaths.
Monitoring possible wet/dry periods could help resolve this issue, whereas more filling in the wet years and less in drier years.
exactly what i was thinking
You're expecting common sense from politicians. Also while that would be good in the scenario of a _binding agreement_ Ethiopia seems to be hell bent on doing as they please, pardon the pun, damn the consequences.
@@simonnachreiner8380 Fair point
Whether there's not enough rain or too much. They blame climate change.
This is not at all a fun fact.. and also, countries don't function like that. You, as a single person, would be mega scared if all your watter supply is controlled by any of your neighbours. The watter supply of a whole country generates the same anxiousness multiplied milions of times. Plus, GERD can be used as a wepon in more than 1 way. Monitoring wet/dry periods is good, but only under strict contract of conduct.
23:12 It seems like Ethiopia did actually unilaterally with their fills but, they did them in the rainy season. They did not want to slow the average water flow, but kept their excess water for themselves. that seems like a good compromise. I think as long as they do not restrict from the average flow rate, it is fair.
Ethiopia has the right to defer water to help devote its own country. That agreement between the UK and Egypt is not something that Ethiopia is beholden to as they did not sign on to that.
@@JamesWhite-fz3et ok but the better question is 'should they', not 'can they'
@@JamesWhite-fz3et yep, even if Egypt full on military mode, Ethiopia could simply radiate the lake supporting the Nile.
@@JamesWhite-fz3et asking 100million people to sit on their hands and die is a great way to cause a war, regardless of whatever perceptions of "rights" you may have.
The problem is negotiations
We were talking about borders yesterday at work.
It makes the most sense to draw boundaries along drainage basins. This would avoid many of the conflicts we see today.
Yes, how many times have country boundaries created by a few people in power caused endless turmoil when it would have been far better to consider drainage basins and ethnic groups as measures in deciding where the boundaries should be.
As a Sudanese American, I can attest to the factual and unbiased reporting of this documentary.
Thank you for this authentic work of journalism!
it is factual but its not the TRUTH. Truth and facts are not the same. You can omit some facts.
like for example the white boys are securing 🇬🇧UK cotton industry in Egypt... that is who control and market Egyptian cotton.
#2 Egypt was an Anglo Colony and received USA military donation because of #1 and the RedSea they dont want Somalia controlling.
#3 3:30 the invasion from the North and East is how Caucasians got into Africa
FACT A: SUDAN has more pyramids than Egypt there are no white OR arab tribes in Africa that built those; to lead the story with presumed ownership of ancient Egypt is a lie
FACT B: The nile and the Ethiopians are the only AFRICANS here
and AFRICA IS FOR AFRICANS
ya zol da shno al kalam da, khalas inta prof
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
@@lamartinezola8507 Israel has no part in these issues, it's not even remotely within their power to intervene.
Their remit is only to exist as a stepping stone to the east for the west, that is the sole reason that the western powers have supported the formation of the Israeli nation and its continued existence.
As an Egyptian, I am really impressed how clearly and unbiased you presented the facts. I am also really glad you highlighted the Tigray disaster. Western Media is acting like it does not exist, and all we ever hear about is Russia and Ukraine. While that is a disaster as well, it is absolutely dwarfed by what happened in the Tigray version in terms of misery and loss of life.
You have my sub, good sir.
you thought Ethiopian civil war will help you but now it is Sudan next it might be Egypt.
What is your point
Thats because war or disasters in africa is so commln place we dont care anymore
Dosqa
Eareaera
Egypt citing the water agreement is quite hilarious given not only it's unilateral nature but the fact that they themselves broke the treaty with Britain by seizing the canals.
The canal was already going back to Egypt in 1965-66 and Egypt didn't seize it in the traditional sense. They bought all the shares at an above-average market price and simply told the British soldiers that they were not needed for protection as that was the official reason they still stayed in the canal. Managing and protecting it. Something that the Egyptians have done very well themselves.
Nationalization of the suez canal is the smartest move Egypt even did to survive.
@@NTLuck , Wasnt there an invasion by the Brits, the French and the Israelis against Egypt to take back the Suez from thenew nation of Egypt. Its the US and USSR who told the invaders to back off.
how was it unilateral, it was signed with ethiopia which was definitely independent at the time.
@@SIX598 It came extremely close to ending the Egyptian government.
The only reason the Egyptian government even survived was because the USA was looking to assert itself as the dominant global power, and was looking for an excuse to kick the teeth in the former European powers. Even if that meant aiding the Soviet Union, who backed Egypt.
They later regretted the decision because the Egyptian government was incredibly anti Semitic, and indeed the Suez Canal ended up being closed anyway because they tried to distract from domestic failings with a nice bit of genocide against the Jews, and their attempted invasion of Israel ended up causing so much damage to the canal it remained closed until Egypt tried ANOTHER war, by which point the US finally had enough and that’s why US Israeli relations are so tight now.
In conclusion, nationalising the Suez Canal only worked because the US decided to act against their own best interests just to make a point, and the benefits were undone a decade later when they accidentally closed the canal for a decade.
In what universe was it a good decision?
Thank you for explaining this situation
Funny timing for this video, I just returned from Egypt where I visited the high dam and Lake Nasser among other areas. The locals are quite concerned about this issue and it’s well presented here. It’s like you heard me talking and released this video, learned a lot more about it as well. A couple further things to consider as well are the Egyptian governments current investments in to irrigation canals and developing of the south of the country in general. This will take further water from the lake and ensure more people live in the more dry southern egyptian climate.
Yes - maybe. But what does that do for the Ethiopians who have had massive challenges with drought and starvation over the last few decades? They matter too.
@@Whistlewalk I never said they didn’t. I was simply informing of additional context that can strain relations for this scenario. Egypts water demands are only increasing along with the above mentioned infrastructure development. I’m not taking a side, just adding some further context about the increased interest Egypts government and citizens have with ensuring water accessibility at this period of time. The Dam would be great for Ethiopia, I hope they can continue its utilization and reach their goals, while Egypt and Sudan don’t also need to struggle further. It’s a tough situation all around and I hope they can find an amiable solution.
@@teamcharcoal1554 chiiiiiilllll bro, linda has her ear to the heart of the ethiopian plight. she'll figure it out.
To me the only peacefull ending is for egypt to pay the potential productivity of the dam. U cant prevent populations from benefiting from the dam, and at the same time use the river to your full advantage.
The new irrigation canals are from recycled water form irrigation
Dear Mr. RealLifeLore, I have a suggestion for your Modern Conflicts series. How about you cover the 2001 war in Macedonia. It's not very well known or covered and I'm sure millions of people in the 'Balkans' would be interested. Keep up the great work!
I travelled through North Macedonia this summer. I would be very interested!
You could see 'The Operations Room' cover parts of the conflict in the future. They actually covered a story during the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
Nah
That’s easy, monkeydons trying to kill natives Albanian in Macedonia and they failed completely.
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
As an Egyptian, I hope we reach and agreement and live in peace all together and share the Nile
Sounds like its your country that needs to learn to share it lol.
The best choice for Ethiopia is to closer with China to calm down Egypt 😀
@@raptors11111 both countries are just looking out for themselves. Can't blame either side for that.
@@muhammadnasir3347 and paying neverending usury to china
@@SpamTown facts
I have been religiously watching your channel almost everyday! Great stuff!
The quality of this video is truly amazing. Thanks !!
He makes good videos
I went to Egypt a few weeks ago, and my guide said something about the issue with Ethiopia and the Nile. Thanks for explaining it better!
Egypt is a country in the Middle East, very far from Ethiopia, and the Nile River is the longest river in the world, passing through 13 countries, then flowing into Egypt in Alexandria into the Mediterranean Sea.
@@Albadry7 its in africa not middle east
@@Albadry7 Wow. Don't you have a map? Arabs have been in Kemnet aka Egypt for 1400 years. Either you are a child or a stupid person
@@abdirahmanhassan1848 Middle East is not a continent you buffoon, it's a region. You can be both African and Middle Eastern
@@abdirahmanhassan1848
Egypt is transcontinental, stupid
Amazing reporting! I wish more people would seek out content like this before voicing their opinions on various geopolitical conflicts and situations. A truly amazing job of laying out the facts in a clear and unbiased way. Thank you.
Something I haven’t seen mentioned is that Egypt holds an ace in its sleeve regarding sanctions. They can absolutely shut the suez to any country that participated in sanctions.
That would be a self imposed sanction!! 😂
egypt is atoothless joke lol
A similar situation exists in the US. Much of the agricultural water for Northern Mexico, Southern California and Eastern Arizona comes from the Colorado River. Las Vegas, Nevada with 3 million inhabitants, depends on the Colorado for its existence. There are treaties in place to control this flow but have been fiercely debated since the 1940s The main problem in both regions is manic overpopulation.
And that overpopulation is exacerbated by the entire country’s compulsive obsession with unsustainable car-dependent urban sprawl that has already resulted in catastrophe and will only worsen with further expansion and population growth.
It’s urbanization but backwards!
@@wildfire9280 Cars do not consume water, i mean they have bit for cooling, but it is not consumed in gallons per day, not even per year. Main problem are large grass patches in those suburbs that require huge amounts of water each day. (Perhaps dry gardens would be better options) But even then that is not main problem. That is agriculture that is taking huge amounts of water from both rivers and aquifers.
Actually, the major use is alfalfa.
@@MrToradragon they aren't talking about cars, they are talking about car-dependent URBAN SPRAWL. As in spreading out an urban area to the point that the only way to traverse it is in a car. Those large grass patches that make up large suburbs is also a part of car-dependent urban sprawl.
And lunatic agriculture. F’n almonds in the central valley? Cantaloupes in the AZ desert? Lunacy.
Love your work man. Love Modern Conflicts too, I always appreciate that sort of reporting on matters.
Thank you for the excellent and unbiased documentary as always from Real life lore. I am from Ethiopia .
Unbiased! Tell us about the alleged atrocities committed by Ethiopian armed forces and Amhara Fano militias Eritrea armed forces. You buy in to such a BS fake news crap?
@Ras Admassu why you say that?
You are not Ethiopian you are F Egyptian
okay, that was the most convincing nebula ad you've pitched yet. ill think about it now, thank you
As Egyptian, I wish all the best to brothers and sisters of Ethiopia, and I wish they understand that we have no chance to survive without the water of Nile
It's not your water
I understand how valuable the river is to Egypt but why is it that only you should be able to take advantage of the Nile including the parts that Egypt has never controlled?
@@prestigev6131 I’m not against Ethiopia’s rights to invest but it’s the timeline that matters here
@@NgolaNalane it’s definitely not yours
@@Idleo that makes sense but then there’s the problem of what incentive would Ethiopia have to deny their poverty stricken people electricity for years on end. That’s a tough ask of another nation without some kind of benefit in exchange. I’m hoping for the best outcome for both sides but like reallifelore said, one side needs the dam and the other would be effectively destroyed by the dam
Ahmed Ibrahim, your comment is what is needed in this time of division and hate. I am an Ethiopian . There are many powers which are visible and murky who levitate in the affairs of others. Few years ago I was on a vacation about 110 km outside of Addis Abeba Ethiopia with my children. I met two Egyptians and we started talking about many issues as we watched our children swim together in harmony. I know it's very simplistic to compare childrens play to water security, but whoever put this doomsday scenario video probably would like to see war between us. If one of us or both deal in despotism, that might create an environment of doom. I read long ago "there is no victory in war"! I hope both our nations,which are ancient, will be seasoned enough not to choose a path of war! A war with no possibility of success.
Been following the channel for over a year and you can see that he puts in a massive effort and research into the matter or any issue he covers and I really want to appreciate what you do. Although there’re historical issues between Egypt and Ethiopia, our leaders should be wise enough to avoid any form of conflict which will drag the countries back and undermine the efforts that these countries made in terms of improving the lives of their respective citizens up to this point. War should never be a choice, we’ve seen more than enough of that.
If ethiopia refuses to negotiate there isn't much egypt can do except war, be it bad or not for egypt in the long term, they don't really have a choice
@@gewnurb Did you not watch the video? Egypt wanting to go by the colonialism agreement to keep acting like they own the whole river (which is an observation enforced by a lot of the comments coming from the Egyptians in this comment section) is not "negotiating". It also isn't virtuous to only NOW go "hey we should cooperate for mutual benefit and share control of the river" when Egypt has lost the full control that Britain gave it without Ethiopia's input.
In the U.S, our Colorado River has a resource-sharing agreement between each state the river moves through. None of this nonsense of strong-arming those at the source of the river to not be allowed to use their own resource, then complaining when they finally seize the opportunity to start doing so.
@@Vaeldarg ethiopia have always been a marginalized country with with barbaric and toxic people they cannot just came in 21st century and decide to domine the whole water resources the life of egyptian people is more important than the jewish black ethiopians they will for that we will conquer their whole country and and enslave 120 million ethiopian bro👍👍
@@Vaeldarg I did, egypt is trying to negotiate a slow filling of the dam, but ethiopia is trying to fill it in 7 years, which would probably cause an egyptian famine. Like I said, if ethiopia doesn't want to negotiate the time to fill the dam, egypt will be forced to go to war, or the people will starve to death.
If California closed the colorado, would the other states simply accept it?
@@gewnurb "if California closed the colorado" That's the point of the agreement. California CAN'T unilaterally close the whole river. Ethiopia isn't negotiating because they're pressing upon Egypt the idea that they no longer can force Ethiopia to go by what Egypt wants for an Ethiopian resource. It's just Egypt being a bully not being able to stand that it's victim has been able to wrestle autonomy back for themselves, and childishly threatening start throwing a tantrum if things don't go back to going as they want it to go.
Excellent documentary and thanks for sharing. Here in the States we remember the words of our famous philosopher Mart Twain as he summed things up so very well. He said "Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting over!" Best of luck to all of us.
Amazing video.
3 points.
-Evaporation proofing and desalination are the keys to water security for all nations.
-Water wars need more coverage and assistance in solutions.
-Filling the GERD during monsoons seems like a very reasonable thing to do.
israel needs to save us. they are the only one capable.
Now see that's the answer to afew problems, desalination. America should try this also, it would make better friends btwn Country's..🦅🇺🇸🇺🇦💪🏽🕊🦋💙🙏🏽
our military unit used desalination exclusively as our water supply in e. africa. it's expensive! but i agree, necessary. innovation will overcome this challenge, i believe.
So there is a reason as to why desalinization hasn’t taken off, and that’s because it makes the coastal waters toxic for any sea life because it just dumps all of that salt back into the ocean. So while good here and there and for communities with little other choice, if you were to do it widespread up and down coasts you’d destroy local ecosystems by making the water too salty for many organisms to live.
@@JustSomeDude42 the salt could be deposited on land pretty easily. Free sea salt too. This shouldn’t be a valid excuse. The energy intensity shouldn’t be a valid excuse either. It’s a simple filtration.
I’m not sure what the real hold ups are. I think Israel and some Middle East countries do it. With the caliber of our elected officials i guess I’m not surprised it’s taking so long. I guess we’ll wait until we really need it, or until our rainfall/snowfall capture is better and we never need it.
It's a good day when RealLifeLore uploads ☺️
@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok, we won't.
Is It or tho? When he uploads it means there’s a crisis
This is my new favorite channel on UA-cam. Straight forward, unbiased presentation of geopolitical issues. 👏
yep.👍🙂
They are biased towards trying to convince people to sign up and pay for nebula.
That Tigray war sounds like it was pretty hellish. I gotta watch a video on it and thank God I wasn't a participant in it.
You're clueless
@@thoticcusprime9309 Please teach me. I’m sure you I have everything all figured out.
Incredibly explained and beautifully shown by the interactive maps
What's sad is that we keep hearing about countries that are likely to go to war with each other rather than countries agreeing to unite and help each other overcome their difficulties.
It's unfortunate when i think about it.
@Don't Read My Profile Picture don’t care
@Don't Read My Profile Picture no one cares cuh
It’s borderline paradoxical.
If it makes you feel any better, Burkina Faso and Mali’s leaders discussed a potential unification recently in order to help better combat terrorism in both countries.
It’ll probably never happen, but at least it’s countries wanting to cooperate
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.4ratio
As an Egyptian ,I thank you for covering this topic that's been going on for a couple of year's
Better start buying water or starve😂😂🔫Egypt can't invade or blow up the dam.
@@RUTHLESSambition5 have you even watched the video?
He literally said that Egypt is more than capable of blowing up the dam.
@@slipperyelf-4207 Yes they are capable but to weak. It won't be just Ethiopia. It will be Kenya,turkey, Iran Eritrea and others who respond. Egypts government is SHAKY. They can't handle a conflict this big.
@@RUTHLESSambition5 Okay so it seems you haven't seen recent developments ,First off Turkey will not attack Egypt as they are trying to fix relations with the Arab countries which one of them is Egypt ,2nd Iran is also try to fix realtions with the Arab countries after the Chinese deal so that rules out two of the biggest threats you just listed and please don't tell me that Iran and Turkey will chose a single country against a whole region
@@RUTHLESSambition5 also how is a government that has a leader that has strong connections to the Army ,"shaky"
Also we're not the ones with a crippled army .
We also have the global world on our side after we repeatedly tried using the diplomatic option and you guys have refused to the point we're the former president of America said that we will blow up the dam if it ever reaches the point of being a significant threat
This is very complex yet so simple. Neither side is wrong. If the Nile originated in Egypt, I highly doubt they would let a sub Saharan African country force them to tone down. This would make a great college case study.
If had to choose, I side slightly with Ethiopia since it’s in their own country.
Yes but still if it puts Egypt at risk then it's still a problem regardless. It's like saying a mother can abort because the baby is in her own body. Ur still killing
Exactly, Egypt should man up and prepare itself to chill for 5 years instead of delaying ethiopia by 10-20
@@ivandankob7112
What do you mean chill … people would die !
I see no solution but the F16s as Trump said
@@Tarek_ElMaddah or people would die in Ethiopia, except Egypt can’t tell Ethiopia what Ethiopia can or cannot do with its territory
@@Tarek_ElMaddahsuch an idiotic thing to say!!! Who are you to decide what happens to a sovereign country? Since when do our life not matter? What gives you the right? How about you mind your own business.
Real Life Lore is the best channel on you tube. The videos are so informative and well put together. The accuracy of fact is indisputable. Its thumbs up and alerts for new videos for me . I'm even considering paying for nebulous (sp) so I can see more of their videos. Please keep the videos coming
Thank you for taking your time making this video. I would have probably never learned about this conflict in detail had I not taken the time to watch this doumentary. GREAT CONTENT!
I had no idea about this issue before just now. This kind of content is important because traditional news sources aren't really reporting anything but U.S. political garbage.
Striking GERD would probably devast downstream areas in Sudan and Egypt. The flood water would enter major cities and ruin the agriculture in both countries from the flood water coming down all at once. In addition, wheat exporters could cut imports in the event of a strike to Ethiopia and the force them to negotiations. I want the best of both counties and wish the success for them.
Probably? 😂
@@AlphaGeekgirl They could theoretically strike the generators alone.
This wouldn’t actually release any water, but would sent a clear signal: if you don’t play nice, we will prevent you ever generating power and then what’s the point.
Indeed, striking the dam is not an option, which is probably why Ethiopia is so confident. Egypt will not die of thirst, just suffer economic consequences, and both Egypt and Ethiopia know that Egypt can only live with it.
I’ll be happy when this is over.
Well, Egypt has the capability to conquer the entire dam region, and take her time to dismantle the Gerd a bit by bit
@@omaralkammash9225 That's requiring Sudan not only open its airspace to Egypt, but also ground forces. Essentially Sudan has to join Egypt in war. Maybe they do, but Sudan does benefit from the Aswan dam as Ethiopia will sell the electricity. Also Sudan does not depend on the water as much as Egypt does. I don't see Sudan letting Egypt wall straight through, especially with the Bir Tawil issue.
Edit: Actually, Hala'ib Triangle. Bir Tawil is the empty desert.
Hey RealLifeLore, love these videos so much! Video suggestion: what do you think about covering the ongoing war in the DRC (which would be a great opportunity to also explain conflict minerals, supply chains, and the BRI)!!!
Edit: I know I posted this on a different video, just wanted to repeat the message.
The problem is, UA-cam is incredibly harsh with community guidelines, and if the topic is too violent, YT would pull down that video, and RLL would be forced to restrict the video to Nebula. It is the same reason why most of the war topics are restricted to Nebula.
@@prabhatsourya3883That's simply not true. UA-cam has a LOT of coverage of the war in Ukraine. The Nebula rhetoric is simply a sales pitch and I wouldn't be surprised if it is paid for by Nebula.
Awesome information thanks
I respect and empathize both countries to be fair, so sad they struggle to find solution that is going to be satisfying to everyone. I honestly would even send my own money donation if it could help them develop the region and prevent the war even though I am half the world away and it won't affect me at all.
Thank you, Sir. I am just an old Marine Colonel of the earliest Vietnam War Era. Anyone who is as unselfish as you so obviously show yourself to be has to be quite a man.
Respectfully,
Col./Plasma Professor of Electro-Optics/Plasma Physics and Quantum Electrodynamics at Stanford University - unfortunately now long ago. Paid dearly for all of the many injuries in Vietnam - shot own in helicopters 6 times, 11 bullets through me. The pain is extreme and incessant.
@@wuodanstrasse5631May G_d bless & keep you and yours safe, healthy & happy. My faith dictates that your bodily pains are erased, reducing each day. 🙏✝️❤
Since our goodness is alway good for ourselves. I like it!
Either we have stopped listening to the scholars or we driven them mad with our civil abilities to argue over rhetoric. With invested engineering there must be a way to build such projects which share the wealth incrementally. We have forced "?them?", to pay attention to the environment how much more are we obligated per-invested in making sure we live in peace? YVO
@@wuodanstrasse5631 thank you, unfortunately missed your comment back then so sorry for answering only now. fun fact is that I am also an engineer, micro- and nanoelectronics by education and software engineering by my actual job though I am Ukrainian and mobilized to the Armed Forces of Ukraine as an officer right now. interesting coincidence. I am sorry for your wounds and pain, hope you lived and keep living a good life nevertheless and wish you a good health 🤝
Praying for peace and light 🙏 for Egypt and Ethiopia to live in harmony. ❤
Thanks again for these amazing, well made and detailed videos RLL. Always glad to see it. Also all these things I pretty much never knew about until I watch your videos. Thanks again!
Please do more content on the numerous other conflicts in Africa, (Sudan, South Sudan, Libya, Niger, CAR, DRC, Burkina Faso, Somalia, etc.) it really doesn’t get enough coverage especially with our current media outlets
For blacks in America for blacks in Yemen for blacks in Haiti for blacks in France for blacks around the world please be inconsiderate they'll kill us with no problems help us out Ethiopia pretty please with a cherry on top
If Egypt and Ethiopia do go to war with each other, it could make the potential migrant crisis heading into Europe even worse. Just as the chaos from the Ukraine war in Europe is making things rougher for North and East Africa, the potential chaos from fighting in North and East Africa could create more problems for Europe. It would be a disaster coming full circle.
I believe at least that an agreement is much more easily mediated between Egypt and Ethiopia since neither side benefits from Conflict, but each could benefit from increase investments in their countries to help them combat their own national issues.
I hope it didn't happen because we have thousands of issues in Europe
Lmao this is weird
Yes, and I know that is/would be a massive political issue. However, after watching this video with 'this side' of the issue, I wonder if a a few ten thousands of willing-to-work migrants into Europe isn't a slightly smaller problem than potential millions of deaths from starvation and war in Egypt, Sudan, and Ethiopia? I sincerely hope that it won't come to that and they will work out a way so that everyone thrives, even if that happens over a longer time scale.
Poor europe, to help europeein feel gud, lets just let them starve in africa while squeezing their resources and banking system
I did not even know there was a recent conflict that was happening in Ethiopia until this video great storytelling/mini documentary ❤
There is another barbarian and bloody conflict in Myanmar that nobody seem to know about.
@Aaina Yes a complex association of Ethnic militias and majority opposition is fighting the military, in the forests, in the mountains, in the cities.
@Aaina even worse the govt has been doing genocide against rohingya minority
Pleas please please look into the killings of Orthodox Christians in Ethiopia. It is going to start moving into Addis soon please share the message.
It's worrying in more than one way that I have to learn stuff like this thanks to youtube. Not to drop dump on YT (I love this site and this channel), but how is it possible that our society came to the point where I learn stuff here and not from mainstream media or school or the government? I feel like there's a lot to unpack in this.
That said, thank you so much for sharing this, being more informed is what let us grow and learn as humans and as a society; so, again, thanks ^^
Sadly the reality of it has been that you'll only get narratives from the msm, not news. It's been like that for years.
If your government or mainstream media HAD covered this topic, could you even trust them to be non-biased?
That's all thanks to the fact that we live on a planet that is dominated by capitalism and therefore the MSM(the vast majority being privately owned)will only show you news that's either profitable, upholds the illusion that capitalism is the end-all-be-all economic system, or both.
UA-cam is one of the few unrestricted sources of news available to us and is why a lot of younger people are here to get our news. Of course there are UA-camrs who are in it just for the money(profit), with many of them being directly funded by the capitalists(the vast majority of US right-wing "news" UA-camrs being directly funded by the Koch Brothers, for example), but we do have legitimate sources like RLL here and friends who help us learn about what's actually happening on our planet!
@@marshalldrew4809 at this point honestly I can't trust anybody not to be biased; everyone is, but... you're right, some are way more than others, and since mainstream media doesn't have the kind of dialogue that UA-camr has, the power dynamic is different. I would not trust them, still, it would be nice to even know anything about this from other sources
@@Moss_knight00 I'm italian and I wasn't aware of the conflict that has been going on in Donbass, Ukraine for 8 years. I had no idea that few meters from my doorstep fellow europeans were suffering, no idea it had been going on for so many years, and I'm pretty well informed. It was something that no reportage or news site talked about, we had extremely detailed documentaries about Afghanistan, Syria or some other country far away from our continent, but nothing about what was in our neighborhood. A year ago media finally started to talk about it, obviously, but I still don't understand how they simply never mentioned it for so many years, it's incredible how much media manipulates information and what it wants or doesn't want you to know even in the internet era.
Love your geopolitical takes on the world.
This conflict has been brewing for decades. I was at a lecture in the 1980s and even then this area was highlighted as potentially the first 'water war', simply because so many people are dependent on the Nile.
All of the Iraq wars have been water wars.
The Nile will be African. Period.
well yeah. i doubt anyone else is going to try to "steal" the nile
I didn’t know how big this wars death toll was. Serves as another reminder that the modern world we live in is subject to the same conflicts most have only read about in history books.
That's unsurprising, the Nile has been extremely important for the region through millennia, to the point that the British conquerors made a country out of a great percentage of the Nile basin that was named Sudan.
Sudan already was a region with much cultural and geographic continiuity. South Sudan was the only different area
Dude, Egypt is just as old as Sudan. It has always existed where it is right now.
Nice smoking
@@theone8789Sudan as a political concept and political entity is way younger than Egypt.
@@RK-cj4oc My point exactly. The British didn't create Egypt. Egypt has always existed where it is right now.
Congrats to Ethiopia for completing the game-changing GERD project🎉❤
thank you 😊 im so proud of my fellow ethiopians
It's not going to happen
@@ToxicLazer It's already happened
@@ToxicLazer Sand n-
Don't tilt towards Egypt only, as an Ethiopian we needs this precious resource as urgent as possible to develope
Khartoum geography with the Nile is so under-appreciated . Khartoum metropolitan area has population over 8 million people and it's rapidly growing so Khartoum is expected to be from top 10 largest cities in the world by 2100 ( according to the UN )
The white Nile and blue Nile join in Khartoum to form the river Nile, so the three rivers divide the city into three cities:
1-Khartoum proper where the presidential palace is situated its the financial capital of Sudan because it full of companies and banks headquarters and has the biggest stock market in the country.
2-Omudurman is the most populated city of the three and it called city of peoples because it is where the federal parliament is situated and it has the main sport and cultural centers of the country .
In the morning, the direction of the transportation is from Omudurman to Khartoum proper while in the evening its vise versa.
3- Khartoum North it is an industrial center where lots of factories and oil refineries are located
I was there in 2017 and i could see the difference by the color of the white nile and blue nile and both joining with a visible line in the Middleton of the water .
@Mugiwara7
Interesting fact in the past there was another tributary called yellow Nile which flew from the west
@@Mu3az523 interesting
Love from egypt 🇪🇬 ❤, we truly love our Sudanese brothers.
@@shahinyoussef08
Thank you brother
This channel always has amazing content.
I enjoy these videos so much.
Thank you, Realifelore, again .
The historical research is so important.
Water is becoming increasingly important in many countries.
I had an University project on exactly this dam in Ethiopia and wrote a story called “war on water” and found that the chance for a war on water in this century was 75 till 90%, the largest chance was, indeed on the Nile. Nice to see this video about exactly this from a channel that I watch since a long time ago
how did you determine that chance
There's a somewhat similar situation in Central Asia at the moment. Uzbekistan is dependent on a pair of rivers for their massive cotton production and other critical economic and societal aspects. If Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan ever dam one or both of the rivers for power or other infrastructure desires, war is almost guaranteed to break out immediately.
The central Asian Stans were really set up to fail even by their borders alone, let alone their geography. Let’s hope there’s a peaceful resolution - maybe some economic reparations, output sharing, or other cooperative way forwards
Heads of state need to act and think intelligently and not like 5 year olds. The Ethiopian leaders are clearly self-centered, narrow-minded and begging for war. But what else is new about Ethiopian leadership. I actually think the world would sympathize with Egypt. I know I would.
@@TAP7a I’m pretty sure that was intentional when Russia originally drew those borders.
@@eyeofsauron1502 They had to have been drawn with the assumption they would remain Soviet republics with no international boundaries.
@@wildfire9280 I’m pretty sure it was intentional. Even as early as the Russian Empire, they were playing around with the borders so the Stans would have some of each other’s ethnic groups. It’s imperialism 101, you have the locals be too busy hating each other so that they can’t rebel against you.
thanks alot very insightful
To begin with the reporting, this is the only objective video ever presented on this very sensitive issue. As an Ethiopian I want to ask a question for those watching this video. Lets talk the other way. If blue nile was originating from Egypt and it planned to build a dam, would she be open for negotiations with Ethiopia? I really appreciate your comments on this.
We all know the answer to that question.
Exactly, that's why i fully stand behind Ethiopia doing what it wants with its water
We planted 4 billion trees in the last 20 years and clean the source of nile lake tana from water sucking trees so is it acceptable to say Egypt can say a word about a nile? As we planted trees to bring rain to feed nile with water also capable of destroying trees to dry nile.
@@johnwellington5754agreed as an American same here. Ethiopia holds the cards here use this to your advantage.
I don't see why this question matters. First of all, we cannot know the answer for sure. Most importantly though, does one side making the wrong choice justify the other side doing the same ? I do not belive so.
Couldn’t Ethiopia retaliate if the dam is bombed by simply poisoning the river? The consequences would be downstream from them.
Why is your last video 2 years ago
Not without harming the South Sudanese & Sudanese. Putting them into conflict with direct neighbors.
@@Hii-lineGuy We would be willing to poison the water.
Yes we could.
That is a crime against humanity. It is the definition of a peacetime war crime. Innocents would die in the millions, and the world would be obligated to punish Ethiopia for such a despicable act.
You know, that fact that Ethiopia decided only to fill their dam during rainy monsoons seasons sounds like a good compromise. They could've cut the water outright, but they're being considerate to countries down river. In all honesty, I think the real issue Egypt has is losing control over the Nile. CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL. That's what this is really about.
In rainy season even after Ethiopia hold her share of water the left over water flooded Sudan and Sudan lost in billion
What control are you talking about? It is a matter of life or death.. Indeed, it's a somewhat good step on their part, because they don't want to rush into wars or turn countries against them.. But if their intention are good, why do they refuse to cooperate and make a commitment to not affect the other countries, and all these discussions end
@@nourelsabah748
What a scummer r u, just because it is life and death situation who tell u u can take water.
Hold on let expaned in ur logic if my two kidney failed I can take ur kidney because I have a life and death situation
All Egypt can ask is her share of water not even one drop of water more.
When Ethiopia suffered feminine in 1980 and many times after that we never blamed Egypt for taking our water while we r hit by starvation
@@nourelsabah748 This could have been avoided decades ago if England hadn't intervened and allowed Ethiopia to build their dam back when the climate was better. The fact that they were robbed of nearly a century of development by restricting activities within their borders by collusion with European powers probably makes them reluctant to overly involve outsiders and especially Westerners again. They don't care if Sub Saharan Africa develops at all. Egypt's attempts to get them to accept mediation from the US or the UN were likely not received well for this reason. Had they started by going to the African Union first, perhaps this might have gone differently but we'll never know.
@@nourelsabah748 Why can't Egypt desalinate sea water?
22:36 "Ca-lear-lay!!!!"
There's was so much salt in that I thought we were in the Aral Sea for a minute.
Great video! 😄 I'm happy there is somebody who is trying to cover crucial conflicts in modern history. It would be great to see more videos about Africa 👀♥️
I just read a paper linking Blue Nile volume to the El Niño oscillation. El Niño caused less water and La Niña caused more water flow. Well, during the last few years we've had La Nina, but now we are likely heading into an El Nino, which does not bode well for the pace of filling the reservoir and potential droughts.
Mr.Mikkelsen,
Ethiopia fill GERD 3 times
1st filling took 15 days
2nd filling took 15 days
3rd filling took 15 day
No body noticed even we fill the GERD
Remaining filling r 4
Pray it is not beyond the capacity of water the GERD hold if is to much rain the left over WI floaded Sudan just like 2022 fload Sudan must have GERD the phone hot Lind to tell us to hold more water and save them from spending billion of dollars and life of Sudan
I wouldn't say it was exactly "protected from outside invaders". It's been invaded by every large-scale invader in history; the Tatars, the Achaemenids, the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs, the French, the British, the Italians. Heck, even the crusades took some parts from Egypt.
The video got that part really wrong. The sinai peninsula is mostly desert, but the coastal regions in the mediterenean are habitable, and since the distance from the levant, another population center in the region, to the nile in egypt, means that invasions from that direction were pretty common. Egypt became arab for a reason
Don’t forget Mongols even tried
True lol. The whole stupid Bible was written about that small area
@@HistoricalWeapons Not really. The Mongols fought the Mamlukes of Egypt in the Levant and Syria. The Mongols could not get to Egypt without conquering the Crusaders.
Yea ,well most of the Empires you listed were global empires at there prime.
Also Egypt was weak so yea its terrain maybe defensive but if you're army is unequipped, then having defensive ground is worth nothing.
Videos like this is what makes UA-cam/the internet so amazing.
As a swedish person I have almost no stake in this conflict at all. I hadn't even heard of it before, I think. The only possible connection from the region, I can think of, is a noticeable increase in Eritrean migrants to Europe and Sweden in recent years. I guess that could further increase if this isn't resolved peacefully in the years to come.
Thanks for continuesly educating the world, RealLifeLore! Amazing job!
that's what you know only. the world is connected in very interesting ways we don't realize.
depending upon only on your mind doesn't really make sense thinking with your own mind, isn't it ? reading history might enlighten in these could've-never-guessed connections. we're all related, living under the same sky
Yes this conflict could affect the whole region of Horn of Africa. I remember back in Eritrea everyone was anticipating some disastrous outcome already in 2011. But 10 years later they seem to have come to some middle ground. The death of former Meles Zenawi could have eased the tension I guess because it was him who started the project. In the case of Eritreans like me Ethiopia is now in 2023 claiming a pathway to the Red Sea namely Assab. If this continues it will be none like other war in that region. I live in Sörmland by the way.
the reason why you have so many Eritrean immigrants is because of the events around the world you do not care about
Cause and effect always go together. Regarding immigrants, citizens in western countries shall accept as the world has changed and should pressure their politicians from going around and creating war.
The funny thing, the politicians again play game inside their country by creating hate against immigrants.
If America/NATO didnt destroy Iraq, you wont see majority of Iraqian immigrants
Same thing works for Syria, Lybia,Afghanistan,….
Behind that behind all conflicts and dictator governments in third world, there are western powers or their intelligence in exploiting resources by creating instability.
When it comes to this specific Egypt case; England and USA are behind Egypt to benefit from their interest in the middle-east.
If egypt is not backed by such arrogant western powers, it wouldnt hesitate to sit and dialogue with its counter part for win-win solution.
The Gurd dam, at 3.5 million acre-feet, is a tiny fraction of the Aswan high dam at 136 million acre feet, and the Gurd does not even straddle the entire Nile (as stated). I think they can work it out without violence.
the Gurd is 6,500 MW and the Aswan is 2,100 MW
@@luku.111 the dam total output is not depending by how much the land taken. It was depend how wide it is how many turbine packed and how high is the water to generate the energy potential needed.
No, Egypt’s a war mongering country that doesn’t like the idea of upstream dams owned by potential rivals.
@@luku.111 this is because the GERD is built just under the Ethiopian highlands
Israel is the main financier behind the dam in Ethiopia, followed by United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, the main purpose of the dam is to generate electricity to Ethiopia to sell back to Israel while Israel has full access over the dam to blackmail Egypt to give them away Sinai and access to nile's water in exchange to allow Egyptians to live with bare minimum water possible.
It's a plan dated back to 2011~2013 where the entire plot and financiers were revealed, and the main plan is to force Egypt to allow Israel to build massive pipelines from the nile to Israel, giving Israel to protect such pipeline and have ownerships of all lands it passes through and only after it reaches Israel, they will share some of it with United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.
On it's on, Egypt don't mind Ethiopia building their dam as long it doesn't cause a massive risk to over 200m innocent people who could die in the process, instead of building average sized dams, Ethiopia Is building a mega-dam, filling it with a massive rate that goes against every safety standard there is, risking it's collapse and massacaring entirety of Sudan from a massive flood.
Instead of hearing to what UN said to follow the safety standards and reach a peaceful solution which doesn't remove Ethiopia's right to build their dam, they gave the middle finger to both Egypt and UN cause it's against Israel's interest to hault the filling or construction cause it goes against Israel's interest and brand you as Zionist in the process.
Let me ask you this at the end, if someone live on first floor, does this grant them the right to break the pipes and remove water access from all floors above?
So both countries should invest in stopping deforestation in Central Africa region and plant more trees there as it would create bigger water moisture heading towards the Ethiopian mountains and eventually as water through Nile
facts
And population control, imo we cant just have more and more people on the planet, there are going to be too many conflicts over resources as the world population grows and grows. We need to stop growth imo.
The water comes from the Indian ocean tho... Don't get me wrong, I'm all for planting more trees (as long as it's done right and you dont just slap hundreds of the same invasive tree into an area and say your work is done) but that's a different issue.
more energy for ethiopia
I think 'both countries should invest ' in contraceptions tbh
Love your stuff! Could you make a video with brief descriptions on every ongoing conflict in the world in 2023? Civil wars, border crises, etc...
Yea right, it will be "For the full video subscribe to Nebula." Ain't gonna happen.
That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.
This is probably my favorite channel ever
The truth is war is inevitable. Especially with the rare realignment of powers and geopolitics; this could be the bloodiest war between two nations.
Very well written and researched!!!
I hope there's more room for the scientific community on the table. I have read amazing peer reviewed works discussing the issue and offering quite insightful solutions and compromises! I am Egyptian and I pray for all our glorious Nile Basin nations to thrive and prosper!
Great news content 👏
RLL thanks for making these videos. I like to think I'm up to date on most of what is going on in the world, but this video made me see that I am horribly ignorant to what is going on in Africa especially regarding the 21st century water crisis.
As an Ethiopian, I hope we can come with a solution that allows Egypt to mitigate its loses while allowing us to utilize our God given right to use our resources and take our people out of poverty.
I believe that international developmental aid could be used to help both sides come to a satisfactory agreement, Ethiopia should get more access to investment for Green Energy development, while giving Egypt aid to develop other projects to ensure its water security.
@@ilo3456 the dam hasn’t been compromising Egypt’s water security. Ethiopia has been meaning to build GERD for decades but the advent of communism put an halt to it.
@@ilo3456 aid is a bandaid that puts off the necessary healing process, which is self development
Take a lesson from the USA and Canada, we share the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River, but most relevant to this conversation is the Moses-Sounders powerdam in Massena, New York and Cornwall, Ontario. The dam straddles the border and provides about 2GW of power split between the two countries, and it helps regulate the water levels of the river and Lake Ontario which is beneficial for trade. (Wendover or one of Sam's channels has a video on the importance of the St. Lawrence Seaway) Control of the dam is by the "International Joint Commission", which has a self explanatory name and it represents the interests of all stake holders as it manages the river.
I think the nations of the Nile need to form their own version of the IJC and give it control over all of the dams on the river with representatives from all participating countries with the express goal of trying to maximize everyone's benefits and minimize downsides and spread downsides evenly/fairly. It would require trust, but the only way we can live in a civilized society is by being willing to trust, and accept the risk of betrayal in doing so.
@@lto4827 the dam has been thought of since Emperor Amde Seyon's conquest of Somalia and Sudan. Egypt and the Ottomans were at war with Amde and he terrified the egyptians by threatening to dam the river but then he died so they forgot
Expect more conflict as water becomes more scarce. Humanity failed to unite even when it was in our mutual interest to do so.There's nothing I can say that expresses my sympathy toward those who bare no responsibility, and no apology I can give for my own failure to make a difference. We knew, and yet, here we are.
Do you even understand the reason why the conflict could happen?
The reason is that Ethiopia wants to fill the Dam faster not so much for water resources but for hydroelectric power generation, Egypt wants them to fill it slower to avoid problems with the flow volume of the Nile River since Egypt has always been a water poor country which relies solely on the Nile river to get its fresh water for both Agriculture and urban uses.
It is not about water being scarce but about the Dam disrupting a river and its natural flow, the main point of conflict is if Ethiopia will get their way and basically fill it as fast as possible without considering the water rights of Egypt and other countries upstream, or if Egypt will get their way and Ethiopia will have to wait longer to have its hydropower up and running, there is plenty of room for negotiation by third parties, like providing Ethiopia economic Aid to develop other sources of renewable power for the time it takes to fill the Dam at a slower rate.
Also Humanity is as a matter of fact a lot more united than you give it credit for, we actually are fighting climate change and trying to come up with deals, aid to developing nations by the developed world to help them grow their green energy sectors, I believe we can accomplish it, while we can't stop all the effects of Climate Change we are doing a good job in trying to minimize its severity.
@@ilo3456 Well Duh! This is just one problem, we need to look at the bigger picture. If you want to keep telling yourself we've done/are doing enough, despite scientific consensus saying otherwise, then whatever helps you sleep at night.
It’s the west that prefers to have a slave-master relationship with non-white countries. Humanity won’t unite until the west is destroyed economically or by warfare.
A video that i will watch soon, hope nothings bad come until the time comes.
Funny thing is if the table were turned Egypt would not give an F and would do as they wish.
That's exactly what I was thinking man. But hey ig that's what happens when a poor country who has been through and hell and back finally wants to grow for the betterment of the people
I am Egyptian and sadly that's true the economy is made in a way to make the rich richer and they hold all the power in Egypt also we won't give an f because the huge amount of citizens that exist need that water supply and nearly half of our population are farmers so this will hurt a lot of people if it happens but also I hope we find a mutual agreement to fix all this
@@youssefmehana1249 hoping an amicable solution can be found. We need to start working towards strengthening relationships between African countries. One solid continent will win it