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Today, Music Nomad has sent me a great care kit to help this TERRIBLY kept rare Gibson Union Jack Explorer from the 80s. There is so much fingerboard gunk on this, I haven't wanted to touch it since I bought it a few months ago. Will Music Nomads products be able to save it? I think so. We also check out their KISS setup system.
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I noticed you putting something on the nut that looked like Vaseline was it or was it something made specifically for guitar nuts. Please let me know thank you Trogly
Haha bought a 30 year smoked on KIMAXE was just cheap nuf, yours is clean Trogly haha but I ain't finished white is brown typeohdurt🤔👍
Really? Dont post this crap. Youve got so many fakes just dont comment and people wont get scammed. Giveaways are really counter productive!!!!
May I suggest that if you are going to use "steel wool" on the fret board ... YOU DON'T!. Even taping over the pickups doesn't prevent some steel particles from the steel wool from getting to them. Instead use bronze wool to eliminate any chance of getting steel particles on the pickups. Bronze is not magnetic and will not mess up the pickups. Available at your local big box stores.
No matter with a good vacuum cleaner when done. 😉
Guess it depends on how you do it. I just cover the pups with a hand towel (sometimes I don't cover them at all)...use the steel wool and make sure I swipe my cleaning brush away from the body, towards the head when I clean up and I've never hand any problems with the wool particles getting on my pickups. 🤔🤔🤔
Personally… I would disassemble the guitar anyways, remove the pickups and wipe them off.
Just use a tooth brush……
Just use the sticky side of some blue tape to remove any wool shaving. Works a treat, some people use magnets but that can mess with the magnets in the pickups.
That fretboard should have been on the Halloween series.
It was truly horrifying.
I've got a few Music Nomad products and I've been happy with them.
May even get myself the setup kit.
Oh shit the infomercials are coming on you tube! How did I manage to stay up this late?!?!?!
I've made it to the infomercial phase of Trogly
LOL Actually, the price he quotes for all of those tools and supplies seemed pretty reasonable.
Over the past I've spent over $3000 buying tools from Stew Mac.
I should put that in context though, I became a Stew Mac customer back in the 1980s!
The only thing missing from this episode was a before and after playing demo.
You mean “w/ mojo” vs “w/out mojo”?
Before and after blacklight test would have been cool.
That's funk not mojo!
Sorry to break it to you but fingerboard gunk doesn’t affect tone haha
@@TranceMasterJack well don't loose MOJO they say sooo would you scrape off BBKING'S grime🤔
The best advice my guitar tech has given me, never use steel wool on an electric guitar. Use 0000 white Scotch Brite.
Thanks for the commercial I guess
Z is for retired. Chloe was impressed by your work Trogly.
Hey there Sarge, I was able to join everyone today!
I've this whole week off from work!
Yes indeed, I too was impressed with Austin today, he has come a long way from when he was fist starting off.
In the early days he had videos posted of video game play!
I do hope You and the Family are well, Holiday time is Quality Family Time for us.
Great Music Nomad advertisement!
I use Music Nomad products exclusively for my guitar maintenance, great products.
Greetings Everyone
What a great episode.
Every Guitarist should learn how to set up and maintain their instruments.
Quality tools can last 50 years or more and are money well spent.
I agree! 👍
I'm a beginner and it looked like he put Vaseline on the nut. Was it or was it something specifically made for guitar nuts. Please let me know thanks
@@jimmyb4728 Hey Jimmy, no, not Vaseline. It's a special product that lubes the nut slots so the strings don't bind up when doing string bending. You'll hear people say that you can use a pencil which is typically Graphite, but I use Big Bends Nut Sauce. It really makes a difference in tuning stability. I hope this helps.
@@spikesguitarcamp thanks man I will go to my local GC and get some I have a Shecter solo II and the D n G always is hard to keep tuned cause of the angle from the nut to the key. It seems I have to like un jam them from the nut every 45 min or so and retune them. So thanks again brother peace.
@@jimmyb4728 You may want to clean those slots out first also. There's also the chance that you're using a heavier gauge string than the slots are cut for. Take it with you to the store and have their guy look at it.
Anybody prefer a manual string winder , ones with out the cutter on the end, I think the power winder is too much . Just my humble opinion , much love , thank you Trogly for all the great content !
Ain’t nobody on an assembly line winding strings.
I prefer the manual string winders as I'm able to keep them in the guitar cases when I travel.
Give her a quick bubble bath and she’ll be good as new!
That would take too long, try the Quarter Car Wash instead, with less than $2 in quarters you could have that guitar Spic-n-Span clean!
Music nomad is the best - as a luthier I use their F-one and frine stuff all the time, as well as their guitar body polish. Lasts longer than anything else. I also use the string winding _attachment_ for a little hand drill, no need to buy a dedicated one if you have the magnetic hex chuck, and it's also great if you need to screw anything in or out. The LIon ones are great these days. If you learn how to use the clutch on your drill, it's slightly looser than a gentle tighten by hand so you'll be able to quickly but safely screw and unscrew anything. Genuinely, that one 8 buck or whatever it is product has saved me hours of my life because I can get a string up to pitch in seconds now.
Does anyone else put a few small drops of liquid graphite on the nut and bridge? One of my good family friends (Rick) was a luthier for 42 years. He always told me to put a few drops of liquid graphite on the nut (string grooves) and a few drops in the grooves on the bridge. (literally a drop on a Q tip, and dab it in) I started doing it prob 10 years ago, and it makes my guitar feel/play like butter. No string issues, they last longer, easier to bend, and believe it or not! Stays in tune better!
Some guitars will benefit from that while others won't. Aggressive playing/bending (tremolo use) will cause the strings to move back and forth within the Nut slots, in those instances yes, a little lube is helpful. On something like an acoustic guitar that rarely sees heavy string bending, lube in the Nut slots can sometimes affect/mute open chords/notes being played.
Dude this was a great episode to watch. I love seeing an old beat up instrument get some love. Seeing as you have the gear, would you think about buying some interesting models from goodwill or eBay that need love and bringing them back to life? Would make for an interesting series
Good job. However, I must note that most ofthe clean-up material is available easily in your community. May cost a bit if you areonly doing one guitar once but if you have a bunch and restring and polish regularily, they become inexpensive: From the auto parts store: Turtle wax white polishing compound polishes frets and will polish out dull finish (be careful, can really eat finish). Meguiars auto body polish will polish all painted, laqurered surfaces (It's the same stuff as an old brand of guitar polish I bought 40 years ago.) After you clean the fretboard, put on some thin linseed oil from the art supply store (not from Home Depot wood finishing isle!) QTips are good for getting in lots of places, a hand vacuum cleaner with a fine wand can get dirt out of many places but some people use 'canned air' from the computer repair shop. Te one thing I do need is 'deoxit spray' to clean and lube volume and tone controls.
Deoxit spray is key for electric guitar maintenance. More so for amps. No idea how many guitars and amps have been closeted when all they needed was a little Deoxit but it is a BUNCH of them. I have personally bought a few for pennies on the dollar and broght them instantly back to life. You cannot "over-do" it as far as harming the electronicsbut you do want to attempt to keep it off the finish. For amps I frequently just open up the back and douse it. For guitars I try to use the smallest amount that is humanly possible in the pots. Also great for corroded battery compartments on any electronics and even computers that stop working before you toss them in the trash. I almost never toss a non working electronic without painting the whole board with Deoxit. Most recently I used it on a non working TV remote. Just opened the back and doused it. Remote started instantly working again (changed the color of the plastic where it dripped)
I prefer Deoxit but WD-40 works well for pots also. It was SO overused for everything in the 70's and 80's that it kind of got a bad rap. Does have its place in the world and pots can be one of those places.
Yum finger gunk
Congratulations on climbing to the summit of the Mole Hill and earning a Gold Medal
Congrats on the Gold
13th!
@0:30 B-b-b-but those are Dirty Fingers pickups....seems appropriate.
LOL, true 👍 😉
That was freaking disgusting to look at 🤮 as a person that keeps his guitars pristine. I would have put on rubber gloves before I began to clean it, but that's just me.
So glad to see that fretboard get cleaned! 😀
It's amazing how differently people treat their guitars. I literally will not play without washing my hands first. Meanwhile, I'm still haunted by a guitar forum post I read years ago where some guy said he rubs his nose before playing in order to get his fingers greased up to reduce string squeak. I think about that guy every time I check out a used guitar.
Reminds me of that old episode where someone gave you their grandfather’s ES style guitar that was sitting in a closet and got all dirty.
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That guitar holder is giving me anxiety. When he’s pushing down on the board to clean it, the board is flexing way more than it should😬 that’s why they make one that goes on the heel as well. This way you don’t get a heel crack from doing a repair. I’ve seen it happen… unfortunately.
One small but important detail: It's the Union flag. It's only known as the Union Jack when it's flown at sea.
On top of that, the flag is upside down as seen from the front. 🙂
I saw some instruments a guy died and left to be sold by his family, apparently he believed dirt added to the tone, they were beyond disgusting, it looked like sand on the fretboard... please clean your instruments
Music Nomad is the best.
Forgive an English Man, but Gibson need to learn which way up the Union Jack Flag goes!!!
That’s what I call “fretboard smegma”, go ahead, Google the word…..but seriously that was an awful way to clean it, why on earth would you put oil on a fretboard before it’s razor bladed.
That's Cheez Whiz!!!
Guys you should like this comment for no reason to get it to the top
There wasn’t one thing in that video that I didn’t want. Definitely the setup kit.
I can use that set up tool kit 👍👍
Did you switch guitars at the end? I swear it went from 2 clear and 1 blue speed knob to three clear!
I came looking for this! I think he just reused footage from his old video but it is a little suspicious that the “after” is a different guitar!
nope, I just put a clear knob back on it and added the switch tip. I only have 1 tremolo Union Jack Explorer
I like my cradle cube and my mat. Was thinking of getting another set.
I was trying to eat when I started watching this video. 🤢🤢🤮🤮
You forgot to clean under the bridge saddle rollers but the rest came out great!
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What kind of tremolo system is that? Never seen one like that
Funky gunk, it's the tone gunk. Hope everyone is well.
You made the podium for the day and earned a Bronze Medal.
LOL, Tone Gunk, I think I've heard the term "Sonic-Smegma" used before!
Greetings BeatlesCuber, and congrats on the Bronze.
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We don't call it "quadruple zero" steel wool. It's said as "Four ought". For a rosewood fingerboard that's that dirty, I start the cleaning process using a razor blade to scrape the gunk off.
Yeah a razor or an old credit card sometimes works but first some gloves I ain't touching that shit
Ditto
@@RayC234 Double Ditto, gloves for each hand.
I quite like their stuff. I find their action adjustment kit really useful. BTW, that nut has to go
Fender should make a Relic cream.
My old Samick way back in the day ended up with a fretboard like that. I just got some shower cleaner and poured it all over the fretboard and it took it right off, lol.
Luckfingers
Dirty dirty moldy fret buggers
You could add one more must have, the bench mat.
True, although a blanket or towel will work in a pinch.
That's not cheese, it's mojo!
Oh that’s how my guitars look.
I just picked up a set of Music Nomad's diamond nut slot files. A great design for more slot-depth precision than a saw.
Music Nomad.. I've been using their products for years...as I travel state to state, their product is widely available in about every shop...good stuff!
As many guitars as you get in you need Sam's Club size dispensers for cleaning guitars
You can also use a dremel on frets! Way faster, just need to be careful or it will get away from you.😁
I bought a dog nail trimmer Dremmel on Amazon for like $10. It is a full fleddged Dremel (cordless) but goes at very low speeds. My dog HATED it more than just trimming his nails so I repuropsed it as a guitar dremmel. Lower speeds make it easy to "not get away" from me and now my frets are like mirrors. Clean the fretboard with cleaner and steel wool, then tape them off and apply metal polish, then use the buffing wheel on the "dog Dremmel". Works spectacularly! I use Blue Magic metal polish. Costs like $6 at Wal Mart. I would suspect it is roughly a 5 lifetimes supply. Many swear by Semichrome but that is far more expensive.
I have and use the Music Nomad fret polishing kit & I agree that it's something more people should be using. For the price and the difference it makes to how your frets feel it's a steal imo.
Troggss inna di house!
Fun video
Trogly! You can scrape that cheese off the fretboard with a razor blade going away from the frets with the grain. Blade at a slight angle.
And then use a scrub pad to clean up the board before oiling
Never mind 😆🤘🏻
Duuuh good axion
Greetings friends...
Greetings guitar storms
That’s what i have to often battle through being a guitar tech…
At least it’s not an established titles ad.
LOL,
I was surprised to see established titles sponsored one of Demolition Ranch's videos!
@@hkguitar1984 bro everyone on UA-cam it’s annoying.
@@laudnivek-k9 I 100% agree. If you thought Trogly's Established Titles commercial was irritating, Demolition Ranch's version is even worse!
Thanks Trogley, that was a great and helpful episode. Even if one wasn't buying these particular products, you've shared some valuable information here. I offer you a cheers with the shitty Guatemalan beer I'm drinking at the moment, but promise to upgrade to a nice single malt after dinner. 🍻
Guatemaltek beer should be good 4 woods mmm singlemaltbeerrrr
Hey Austin. I'm not a luthier by any any means, but I would advise you to get a bit of of course to learn how to level, crown and polish your frets.Just polishing them doesn't do anything. You need to check if there are low or high frets. I love your content, you know your gear adn guitars, but get a bit of training on how to give a guitar the TLC she needs. A guitar like this definitely needs a level and recrown before the polish. Having this skill will even improve your content!
Level/crown is on a whole different level from cleaning. You really can't mess anything up cleaning a guitar - a lot can go wrong when doing frets if you don't have experience. It is best to leave that kind of work to professionals on expensive 8k+ guitars like this Union Jack
@@Trog I'm gonna tape up my KIMAXE 4 some Flagg hi7 Trogly, from the Netherlands😇👍
Nah no tape I have real flaggs🐵
My mother used to work in the Walmart Jewelry department and handled watches not to mention jewelry plus trinkets. There was a guy who would go in there in less than 3 months of getting a watch wanting to have it replaced for corrosion. It went back and forth until she brought it to the attention to the store manager. Apparently the guys body was quite acidic and would cause any watch or jewelry he wore to corrode worse than that explorer .Just saw a new guitar on the Gibson site sales add that was painted the same way the studio greenburst I bought after you featured it off the reverb site. Only thing the one on the add is obviously a standard with binding. But it has more or less a perimeter burst except just past the neck pickup on the cutaway and the area around the toggle is black .
Scott Groove used to talk about having acidic hands and needing to change strings often. That makes scents….
Get it?
@@TheGreatGadfly I'll bet it made bad scents.
@@TheGreatGadfly Yeah, I have that issue, that is why I wipe down my strings after each playing session.
I also have to regularly replace the pickguard and pickup ring screws that sit under where my picking hand rests.
Those screws have to be replaced every 2 to 3 years on the instruments I regularly play.
I've tried stainless screws and even those get so corroded that they become impossible to back-out/remove.
They call that “piss hands”. Not that you pissed on your hands, but rather your hand sweat is more acidic than others. Fun fact, you sweat 2 different types of sweat, one when your hot, and one when your nervous or more emotional. The emotional sweat contains more pheromones which is more acidic and causes piss hands.
@@brythecracker What you are describing, I've heard that before. The term "piss-hands", I've not heard that before! It actually strikes me as hilarious. Almost 50 years of playing and I never knew I had "piss-hands". It's always a good day when I can learn something. 👍😉
All that's missing is the musicnomad rubber gloves so you don't have to touch that nastiness with your bare hands!
I wish more Reverb sellers would pay attention to a video like this, they seem to think that can throw a dirty guitar online and ask a premium price without doing any prep and clean work before taking pictures. They could also take a little time and get the correct information for their listings. I see so many Gibson's that are labeled the wrong color and there are so many sub models that many sellers just refuse to do any research and that's why their listings are on the resale platforms for over a year.
I tried Gerlitz Guitar Honey fretboard conditioner and never went back. I love it. I bought the Gibson vintage restoration kit a few years back and I still have all of it. I love the scent of Gibson polish. I also use Finger Ease on my strings. I love the scent. How does the Music Nomad stuff smell? I love opening my case and getting hit with that sweet clean guitar smell.
I find diluted vinegar is a great way of removing the fingerboard DNA
I've got this entire toolkit, and I can say, without a doubt, that's it's great. I set up my own guitars and all of my friend's guitars with it, and never a complaint. I just put on a UA-cam video (like Trogly's) and work away while I listen. Good video.
Awesome Jim, glad you are liking the Setup Gauge Kit.
Speaking for myself, I enjoy performing maintenance and setups on guitars.
I've had more than my share of basket case/neglected guitars that I was able to make very playable.
About the only thing that irks me is one friend who has played guitar for almost 15 years yet refuses to learn how to change strings.
I even set aside the time to try and show her and she told me she wasn't interested in learning how to do that! I don't understand that at all.
I've been using Music Nomad for the past few years and I'd have to say it's very good quality. I also use a non caustic degreaser and a shoe brush for fret boards as bad as the one shown and Harron's speed wipe to clean body work. Great vid, thanks Austin!
ATTN GUITAR GUY WHO MAKES THESE VIDEOS. How does one get hold of you? Nut shell. I have a person who will be spending the rest of his life a guest of a Midwestern state. He was a guitar player and collector and he wants some sold. Most are just standard guitars but he has a beautiful Gibson Les Paul, not verified but he said a 1950 Telecaster. A 58ish Fender Stratocaster, a couple more quality guitars... Around 30 others from mid 70s Taylor, some custom Spanish made one. If they have not been destroyed, a sad chance considering who accessed the guitars, I will be selling on his behalf.
I don't want to mess around with people but I know you, unlike me, know what is what and I trust you. The reason there is a problem is they are in a temp controlled storage and my aunt is 80 and in a home so her son is the loan and he is kinda out there. This is interested in first shot, even if consignment, cuz the owner ain't going to show up again, I want to be able to get hold of you.
Infomercial. All you need…
Cheap string winder.
Snips for strings.
0000 steel wool.
Fret Doctor oil.
Damp soap and water rag.
For body mung, lighter fluid followed by car polish.
I get that this is trying to simplify the process but you’re not supposed to capo the first fret while adjusting string action.
Also, different guitars call for different specs. A Les Paul gets the action measured at the 12th fret where a fender (25.5” scale) gets measured at the 17th fret.
These guitars were built on the standard system and therefore you have to measure in 64ths of an inch. ( I don’t like it either). Les Paul is 5/64” bass side, 3/64” treble. Fender set the height of each saddle to 4/64” to match the radius of the fretboard (if you set each saddle you’ll see the natural curve of the neck reflected on the saddles)
You should have put down a tarp and got out the spray bottle of disinfectant.
Edit... it's just a matter of time before Gene and Paul horn in on this company's products with the Keep It Simple Setup (KISS kit)
I'd definitely use gloves to scrape that fingerboard. ugh.
Trogly Hays here to tell you about oxy clean! j/k However on a more serious note. Shouldn't you have more support at that neck/body joint when doing these sort of things? All the pressure on mostly the neck is probably not a good thing? But if it were distributed to more of a sturdy area would cause less neck stress and maybe avoid the neck joint lines(finish/body cracks) Just a thought. I have no faith in those neck cradles alone. Add an arched back pillow and its the perfect set up for cleaning and set ups
As much as i like Music Nomad's products I will say for fret polishing NOTHING beats AutoSol. Trust me on this use it one time and you will never go back.
You can also save $$ & use mothers mag wheel & aluminum polish from auto parts store. Best polish on market ever on all metal. Cleaned finger print stain nickel pick up covers & tune keys back to a chrome mirror finish. A little buffing though If you like the look .. I do .. black residue as you polish .
I’m all good with advertisements but this is a little too much. The ironic thing is that I actually really like music nomad products, just didn’t expect to see to see an infomercial on you channel.
Thank you so much for the great content in general though Trogly. Sorry if my feedback comes off as harsh.
I had a 1994 Les Paul studio that was in similar condition, especially the fingerboard 🤢but was very satisfying to restore it back
But, Trogly...that's not dirt. That's just relic........
Very satisfying to see that nasty, nasty gunk get scraped away.
Now I know how to clean my guitars, but I'm at a loss for how to get a novelty title for Christmas.
Can you imagine what their fingernails must have looked like for the fretboard to be that gross?
Thank you so much for this, I hit the links and made some purchases! My guitars are not that bad off, but I love bright shiney axes, so thanks again for this! Love the channel.
Finga cheese
As a Scotsman I agree that this guitar is extremely disgusting ... especially the finish... sand it off and paint it a solid colour ! 🤣
Man every single time I go to Guitar Center and I play a used guitar. The instruments are covered in human skin and dirt! Do people not clean between the pickups or the fret board when they change strings? On top of that would it kill Guitar Center to restring and clean these instruments? I remember trying to trade in a guitar there with a scratchy pot and they refused to take it!
Bro..put on some latex gloves.Who knows what all that cheese consisted of..
Hey Mr Troglodyte. I hope you and your entire family have the best Thanksgiving ever. Be safe and take care
So underneath it is an explorer, not happy? 70 dollars 4 itttt? I'll pay postage mmmkay?
I have to disagree with the tape on the pickup's @3:26. Uncrew the pickup mount's and use a zip lock bag to cover the pickups, those fibers get everywhere.
Simply green is best for fretboards that are that disctusting.
I was literally eating cheese when you referred to that horrible neck gunk as fingerboard cheese. Way to kill a guy's appetite!
Send that scraped off DNA to the FBI, obviously a crime was committed.
Soap and water on a wash rag works just fine on the fretboard. And a small automotive buffer does wonders for polishing the frets. Just add your oil afterwards.
Gene Simmons is calling his lawyers now! KISS?!?!?
No knob removal tool?
There is a spanner in one of the kits if you wish to use that
Wow it's just a long advert...you really respect your viewers then troggle
Just one comment, invest in some nitrile disposable gloves. Fretboard cheese can contain all types of vile crud.
We hear at Grant Guitar love Music Nomad products. They smell so nice. 😂
To remove all the gunk on the fretboard just rub a piece of cotton cloth (old t-shirt) with your fingers 'till it's gone. No need for brushes, cleaners or especial cloths.
Wow looked awesome afterwards. I definitely need some polish