‘Foundation’ Stars Talk Apple TV+’s Hugely Ambitious Sci-Fi Epic: “This Is Going to Be Emotional”
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2021
- What’s potentially more ambitious and spectacular than a new ‘Star Wars’ movie or series? How about taking on one of the seminal sci-fi texts that inspired George Lucas’ many journeys to a galaxy far, far away: Isaac Asimov’s ‘Foundation’ books. That is just what Apple TV+ has done with its newest series, ‘Foundation,’ a sci-fi drama of epic scope and deep-rooted emotion that charts a future in which warring factions and philosophies fight to lead the future of humanity. The idea for the adaptation came from ‘The Dark Knight’ and ‘Dark Knight Rises’ story scribe David S. Goyer, who fell in love with the books as a kid after being gifted them by his father, and key to his vision was bringing the books, which reflected a post-WWII world and worldview, up to date to reflect our current times. So it is that the… well, foundations of ‘Foundations,’ remain intact, but certain characters and arcs have been tweaked and fleshed out to make the story pop with currency and relevance. Ahead of the series’ debut on Apple TV+, Rotten Tomatoes correspondent Nikki Novak spoke with Goyer about his approach to the adaptation as well as the stacked cast of audience favorites and sparky up-and-comers who helped bring it to life: Jared Harris (Dr. Hari Seldon), Lou Llobell (Gaal Dornick), Lee Pace (Brother Day… and some others), Leah Harvey (Salvor Hardin), and Alfred Enoch (Rach Seldon). During extended interviews, they talk about Goyer’s vision and its wild scope; how raw emotion, practical sets, and some very uncomfortable costumes keep their series grounded; and tease what might - and might not - be in the mysterious vault that lies at the center of the first season’s early episodes.
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I really like Lee Pace as empire. He would have been great in Dune. He nailed the part of empire.
This is what I keep saying Dune was hoping to be on the level of greatness as Foundation but it just didnt give what its supposed to give other than a famous cast
I can't imagine any other actor as Brother Day - Lee Pace made that character his own, so much of the character is Lee! Same with Jared, too, they are both exceptional actors.
@@bahatithomas4855 what? Dune is a masterpiece of screenplay and Foundation is just very hot garbage (terrible writing, dull dialogues, bland characters…). At least the actors did a great job.
@@odostolzfu7775 I disagree. You're completly wrong. I've read all Asimov's and Herbert's books several times... Dune had much more detalied info about everithing, yet the overall cinematography, dispite blockbuster cast, director, budget & all, failed to captivate. Maybe coz that was a movie while this are tv-series, donno exactly what's missing, but it's way than perfect... until now.
@@odostolzfu7775 thats just your opinion. The foundation cast is much better than dune's rightfully. Timothee is with Kylie jenner (sus) and aquaman as duncan was super corny. only surefire actors are lady jessica rebecca ferguson, and oscar isaac. Stellan as Baron was amazing as well.
Jared Harris has good taste in the project he chooses. Chernobyl, The Expanse, The Terror, and The Crown, all fantastic
I desperately want him to make an appearance in the final season of The Expanse. Not sure whether that would have been possible seeing as he's such a big name now, but I want it all the same; his brief appearances in the early seasons were always great
@@robertwinslade3104 I so totally agree with you!! Beltalowda!!
Anderson Dawes!!! Good and bad, don't let that confuse you! You remind me of someone just missing the hat!
Don't forget Fringe (Just finished re watching). He was just as amazing in that as you would assume.
And Mad Men.
These actors pulled it off. Seriously they had a real challenge to embody this universe filled with incredible ideas.
Honestly I didn’t think this masterpiece of Scfi could be made into a series!!!!
When they finished up I had to clap. They actually did it. It is excellent and does a great job.
They really didn’t. The show is mediocre at best if you have no knowledge about foundation or azimovs work.. if you do, it’s horrible.
@@odostolzfu7775 It is important to separate the books from the show. The books are not easy to adapt and changes had to be made. Still by the end many beats were present ....
@@tarkajedi3331 the books had to be adapted, yes. However, that is not even my main concern with the show. The writing is lazy. In many ways it feels like a superhero movie - which is not surprising when you look at the other works of the show runner. The conversations are sometimes hard to stand. Its just an overall poorly written piece of television and most of the critics seem to agree. That being said, im happy that you enjoy the show.
@@odostolzfu7775 Cheers, I agree when you compare it to the Expanse the best hard scfi show ever made or Battle-star or other greats it has its rough edges. I would rest my argument on one example:
Next Generations is one of the all time most beloved Scfi shows - Season 1 however was rough as hell and everyone admits it. IT was not the original, it had many weird dynamics and it was finding its feet. Yet we all know it is a legendary series by most metrics with some episodes becoming acting and writing masterpieces.
Foundation is incredibly challenging to absorb for a non-reader. More to the point many readers have to read it twice or even three times to appreciate the scale, depth and majesty that is Foundation.
What the show did was draw characters forwards and draw ideas forwards as well as juggle their legal rights and juggle the story arcs trying to show not tell as much as they can.
What people don't realize is the difficulties they faced and overcome - As long as they can deep dive next season and really embrace the stories and epic time jumps we are going to see an incredible show.
If they infuse their politics and ego into it I am sure it will fail like new trek Discovery.
Your points make sense though there can appear some woodenness at times but overall I thought the acting was excellent and story walked the razors edge. I also get it if you have read the books and feel disappointed. That is the problem with being a book reader.
I tried as much as possible to forget what I knew and see it for what they were achieving and I think they pulled it off under the first season pass. Now that the audience has knowledge of this universe they should dive all in. Absolutely all in on their amazing materials to draw from.
I watched it however on my projector on a big wall in my unit with surround sound. Trust me how you view this matters - Foundation is a gorgeously shot and its special effects are just beautiful.
Patric Stewart is a magnificent actor but in season 1 of Next Generations he had certain restraints. Foundation has talent of similar caliber and some very good younger talent - If I was writing on Season 2 I would be sooooo excited to make the story explode before us!!!!
Kind Regards from Australia
Dave
My take is wait and see. Relative to the novels, the series is different enough yet faithful enough. Season 1 was engaging enough to merit continued viewing, but as a fan of the novels, I’m cautiously optimistic at most.
I love Lee Pace's answers cause we get a sense of how he thinks about his character.
Lee Pace is one handsome devil. That's all I got.
One of the best Sci fi productions I have ever seen in my 53 year old life
You didn’t watch much sci-fi then I guess?
Wow, they really do pull off great American accents in the show for Sal and Raych. It didn't sound 100% natural but they were darn close.
Lee Pace was going to keep talking and then she cut him off and changed the subject! to be honest I could just sit here and listen to him talk about this series for hours
Best sci-fi show since The Expanse. Tbh it isn't hard compared to the utter nonsensical trash we've gotten in the past 5 years. However, the scope of Foundation is breathtaking and Goyer's vision is equally jawdropping. It's great to see such amazingly large vision brought to TV. Love it.
Bruh you a shill or what lmao
Utter trash? Well, that's your opinion obviously.
I year later.
Season 2 is phenomenal in its reach and vision.
Highly probable that this is the best Tv series ever made.
Bravo to all who created it and made it so.
Just it explain it The foundation series is mind blowing and told over massive periods of time. To hold it all together with a story on screen is just unbelievable!!!
You mean mindblowingly bad? It’s just not a good show. Idk, did you get paid to write that? How can you be a fan of sci-fi or the books and like this crap?
@@odostolzfu7775 You have to look at it objectively - Of course they were going to adapt it for tv.... There was so many merits of the show. Acting, effects, production and the Foundation books were there....
IT captured enough interest for another season and it succeeded in my opinion.
The books are with doubt a masterful read. A true classic. I prefer Dune but still lets look at this objectively!
For instance, the design of the ships was elegant and unique to scfi... Remember when he walked the salt road? Just brutal !!!
@@tarkajedi3331 Well the visuals are great... but the writing overall is just very poor. Very objectively spoken. Its nowhere near close to Westworld, The Expanse, Battlestar Galactica,... and yes, it did capture enough interest for another season because the masses keep watching dumb eye candy television without soul. The critics (and fans) alike agree with me. Look at the reviews (imdb, rotten tomatoes, metacritic)...
@@odostolzfu7775 Some interesting and fair points...
Watched the first 2 episodes..im speechless wow what they have created is something really special, Thank you apple for giving them the budget they needed to tell this story.
Even better than I expected! They have imagined Asimov’s Foundation so well - in fact better than the book. The books were fascinating but laborious. The first episode is a bit slow, but the second episode ups ALL the stakes so well and organically! I am so excited for this story and to watch all these actors get to take tell us this epic story… as a math nerd, I love the counting of primes. Love it!
Since you’re a math nerd I’d like to ask: Is it even possible to count primes in your head into the 7 digit range?
Yeah, no, don’t you dare. They completely gutted the story, the nuance and most of its value to make “GOT in space”. Salvor in particular is completely ridiculous.
@@davidolden971 there is an infinite amount of primes. I’m sure there is a formula to count them. (I think the prime counting is also to illustrate how mathematical Gaal is as I don’t believe many [if any] people could do it as quickly as she does.)
I've loved the books since high school. Tv series feels a little different, so I'm looking forward to see this. I hope we see the ideologies of different groups and it's always a win when we remember women also exist in history.
Yea, it's a fresh and more modernized take on the material. It's good stuff.
What I love about Foundation is that there is characterization on every side of every major conflict. Brother Day is tested on The Maiden and while walking the Great Spiral, which in turn leads to conflict between him and Brother Dusk. Both Hari(or whoever/whatever that was) and Gaal are tested by each other on their way to Helicon. Salvor was tested by the Anacreons and her adoptive father’s death. Heck, even Demerzel was tested when she visited The Maiden.
In addition, I watched it a second time, and I noticed more small details that could suggest other possible plot lines for Season 2. Like Inception, I can almost always find something new whenever I rewatch this.
Denis Villeneuve's Dune has been challenged by Foundation team. Lesser renown actors, but: very well done, acting, scripting, directing, CGI... super fine! Lee Pace and Jared Harris played like they were competing for Oscars... Jeez, such a breathless cinematography! Bravo!
I think Jared is just one of the most brilliant actors around. Guy Ritchie did a disservice to himself when he killed him off as Moriarty. I could have seen a couple more movies with him as the villain in an epic tug of war…
Yes, underrated and classic in the same way that Guy Pearce is
Alfred Enoch had some very thoughtful and insightful comments
Love it, can't get enough of it. Hope many more seasons will follow it.
This tv show is a masterpiece it’s been a long time I was entertain like that
Great interviews! I love Nikki, she always comes so well prepared will the most interesting questions and that smile :))
Lee Pace looks like a god
The pilot is amazing! Looking forward to watching the whole series.
Lee pace is awsome
Really smart & thoughtful actors. Well done. She is stunning! Wow.
Jared Harris is a master. Amazing actor. Great character actor with heart & believability.
I haven't seen this series yet. But, Lee was amazing in halt & catch fire. ( I saw an interview clip from this show with lee. And interviewer went on & on about it. So, I just binged 4 seasons in a few days. The depth & vulnerability is gorgeously soulful. 😊Thank you so much. )
Complete works of Shakespeare.... yes, cheesy & very British! Lol 😂 lol 😂
The writer answered that last question perfectively telling what someone like her would want to hear.
I loved these books and I love this series so far. Yes it deviates from the books but it stays true to the essence.
It deviates for sure, but does stay steadfast to the novels' central themes and general voice - and that's the most important bit. I'm enjoying it so far.
@@sirmarshall9521 it really doesn’t, sadly
Just viewed E4. My Dad just passed this week so this whole thing is really affecting me. That aside, I find this adaption one of the most incredible things I've ever seen and I'm so grateful for it. The last film that affected me at all like this was 'Cloud Atlas' or 'Titanic'. The writers (et all) hit this way out of the park when it comes to connecting with the pulse of our accelerated and changing world...
This poor interviewer was in over her head with that Lee Pace interview...like wut?!
Yes stunning as she is, she's got a little growing to do. I think she will...
I love all of the cast. Superb!
I can't wait to read the books and watch the series. 😊
For All Mankind had me kinda sold on Apple TV but Foundation has sealed the deal! Everything, from the scope and budget to the detail and even the full-length shows, is wonderful! I’m all in now!
Don't forget he was an awesome Bad Guy in Fringe!
best sci-fi show in history so far
Absolutely loved the show
Great cast.
Goyer had to implement the Cleon clone rotation plot device in order to keep Pace in the show, and significantly change the importance the “outgoing” empire has; it should fall apart around the end of the first book.
But how will they let him go now when everyone likes his character so much? Have Danee- er, Demerzel somehow shepherd him away from Trantor and create a whole new branch of the story where Lee Pace’s clones continue to be relevant?
I think he should have been given a part with more staying power. Not an emperor who is supposed to die off in a dozen pages, not even a clone dynasty. It’s a risk the show would survive long enough, but to have him play Golan Trevize for a few seasons at the END… That might have been incredible. Dude who plays Dusk could have been the randy old guy, Janov, and the actress who plays Demerzel could have played Bliss.
Or he could have been an Olivaw/Giskard type of (not clone, but) sentient robot who watched the milennia pass by. Anything other than a charismatic emperor of a dying empire who will continue to keep the story from progressing as it should as long as he’s basically the most visible and popular actor on the show.
The collapsing empire is not supposed to be more interesting than the settling of Terminus and the machinations that occur on the outer rim…and the “other side” of the galaxy. Also this bickering between Gaal and Hari is annoying and stupid. The casting for the Terminus plot is as bland as puréed GMO winter squash. 😞
One of the best series i saw…ever…and i saw a lot
jared harris + lee pace
as if it could get any better...
This shows incredible
Amazing show!
I love this actor.
This series was beyond, beoooond epic
If the BBC did Asimov as a series they would use wobbly cardboard sets in one studio and an alien planet would be a bit of waste ground or an old quarry a few miles from the studio. Would still probably run for years though. Aka Dr. Who.
one sentence: "More Epic than Dune and Star Wars combined". Possibly on par with Babylon 5 (hopefully the remake does not botch it like the 4400 remake)
WHAT?! 😂😂😂 did we watch the same show? Foundation was mediocre at best
@@odostolzfu7775damn dude you are on every comment throwing hate. If you despise the series so much WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE! Geez get a life.
@@bluemoon4944 "Throwing hate" as in discussing the show? You're so late to the party.. critics and viewers agree that its mediocre at best (acting is great!). Its hot garbage if you know the source material... but I guess you didnt even know this was based on books, huh?
Lee Pace really dominate as Cleon.
Day is Dead, long live the Day!
Goyer says the speed of the transport ship to Terminus is .5c. This is wrong. Terminus is at least 20,000 light years from Trantor since it is at the periphery of the galaxy while Trantor is near the core. At .5c relative to Trantor the journey would take at least 40,000 years Trantor time or 35,000 years ship time. The stated transit time in the show is 5 years. To achieve that on ship elapsed time the ship speed would need to be .99999999c.
This, however, doesn’t allow the Seldon Plan to work. Seldon says that Trantor will fall within 300 years and that, if his plan works, there will follow a 1000 year dark age rather than the 30,000 year period without Seldon’s intervention.. The problem is that even at .999999999….c it would take at least 20,000 years Trantor time for the Seldon group to reach Terminus, at which point the Plan has no purpose. The only way for the timing to work is if the transport is capable of faster than light jumps.
So, not only is Goyer’s .5c speed wrong, the idea that Seldon’s group can’t use a jump ship is completely misguided.
I caught this as well. The only 'out' I can think of is that a 'jump ship' is like the ones in Dune that instantaneously transport you to spots in the galaxy...the 'slow' ships still travel faster than light (like 'warp' drive in star trek maybe?) but are MUCH slower depending on where you are going vs. the jump drive. I have not read the books so if this goes against what a 'jump' ship has been defined as, then it's still a problem. Based on the effects showing the ship traveling, there is no 'hyperspace' effect that we've seen in every other space drama so I dunno about the faster than light...you do see stars moving against each other though, so maybe they are taking a more 'Expanse' route and not putting pretty flashing lights everywhere for effects when traveling at faster-than-light speeds....
@4Freedom4All That may be the case, but I'm still enjoying the show - and ultimately that's all that matters.
Oh you're just gonna take all the fun out of it, ehe? 😆. Actually... and astutely expressed. The only artistic license I can think of is 'warp factor' this and that, similar to get Trek, but even in that universe it was gonna take 'Voyager' 8-10 years to back to the Alpha Quadrant. I dunno, maybe Warp factor 8 is considered 'slow ship' in this universe which has 'jump drive' worm hole technology that is supposedly instantaneous.
Apart from the fact that Terminus is at the periphery of the galaxy while Trantor is near the core there is no mention of the journey to terminus in the books.
@@martinpennington4429 In the books, hyperspace jumps are essentially instantaneous. Net time depends on how far the first jump point is from the start point and how close the final jump gets to the destination. Aside from that the travel time depends primarily on the time needed to determine the exact position after each jump and to calculate the parameters for the next jump.
On the TV series jumps are quick but nowhere near instantaneous and , even though Goyer claims the slow ships travel at less than light speed, that can’t be so as the show states that the voyage from Trantor to Terminus is 50,000 LY. I’m not sure if Asimov ever specifies a distance but the general description of the planet’s positions means the absolute smallest distance would be more than 20,000 LY.
The girl who plays Vaal is so beautiful omggggg
The interviewer is pretty good but I feel like it was a mismatch with this series, she seemed out of her wheelhouse.
Of course she has no Idea of Jared Harris on the Expanse!. She just watched The crown 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I am just loving Apple TV’s originals and they just killed it with the “Foundation” .I am really glad that they went to actual places and build actual sets to shoot the series instead of taking easy route of CGI .There hard work paid off ,the show looks Marvellous.It’s a visual treat .The world building is also soo good .It shows they put a lot of love and care in this show ❤️🤍.One thing I love about this show is it doesn’t treat it’s audience like a child by giving to many informations that they shouldn’t be giving which many shows this days .This show requires your full attention and it freaking deserve it .
I believe it’s going to be the “Next Big Thing” 🤍💙
How did you like the original books? Prelude to Foundation
Forward the Foundation
Foundation
Foundation and Empire
Second Foundation
Foundation's Edge
Foundation and Earth
Not sure about Invasion. It is too slow and boring to watch
the first thing that came to my mind of "what was not in the vault" was also a cheeseburger--before anyone answered! i swear on my life. so freaky...
Gaal's scene of triangulation etc was a pinnacle of 'show, don't tell'. I don't like maths, but if we have a bona fide maths genius, don't say that in the first episode and then never use it in the plot. Go Gaal, and her scriptwriters.
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I have enjoyed the Foundation very much. I have not read the books so I dont know how they are different from the show. Most new shows and movies I do not like because of all the woke man hating in them but this show has some very loving roles for the males and does not make them all out to be the evil that kills everything.
Memorizing a solution to a rubik's cube is not hard
Lee Pace just ain't fair.
This show is absolute eye-candy. It’s gorgeous.
THE BOX HAS THE LOCATION OF PLANET EARTH!!
Jared pulls in the hottest girls! I'm envious of this man in many ways!
Great cast BUT why does Hollywood still need to cast men and women as couples who are so far apart age wise? The women look much younger than their male lovers in the Foundation. It does not translate well on screen.
Lee pace is the best part of the show. He just nails it as empire day. He totally overshadows other cast. Thr whole genetic dynasty arc is the only reason keeping me hooked to the show. The gal arc is so tastless and boring and terminus too is very underwhelming
Also lee pace looks so ungroomed in public , don't know why.
I agree. The Empire story is more interesting. Even the more interesting scenes on terminus were in reaction to Empire.
As a medical virologist, I have a question: how do they manage to shoot series or films with covid? Do they wear masks most of the time on set? Do they have tests every other day?
The crew is quarantined and tested and then isolated from the public and there is routine check up as well ..not every other day. Maybe every fortnight or so.
@@trevorreznick7848 that's what they said .
there is a hot meal......
Need a better host. She was all red nails. Wasted chance.
Was she all that hard to look at? 😆. I agree, and hopefully her skills and maturity will catch up with her stunning appearance.
This show is epic!
Epic like big and steamy pile of crap in that old movie Jurassic Park !
The TV series disappointed me. Just not enough content from the actual books. I despaired when I heard Goyer was gonna make it, for I haven't liked anything he's ever written - except for his very own concept, DaVinci's Demons. But I've disliked all his considerable superhero work, which is saying something as I'm (otherwise) a huge superhero fan.
This interviewer is terrible. The questions are so shallow. You can tell Lee wants to actually talk about the show and his character and get deep and she just keeps disappointing.
They were the worst questions. So superficial
What a terrible butchering of some books but gods is Lou Llobell gorgeous. Distractingly so!
It completely ignores the entire premise of the books. If you want to do an original sci-fi epic, I'm all on board. If you want to adapt Foundation, adapt Foundation. Don't make an unfocused sci-fi series and slap Asimov's name on it to make it sell.
These were tough to watch. She is a terrible interviewer
great series, pity episode 4 became a shooting fest... Asimov was not an NRA puppet...
ANDI $INAGA 46 🇮🇹🇮🇱 👨🎓 👍🌹💘
I am not sold on Llobel, and especially Gaal's and Reych's snu snu borefest romance.
Pretty much 9/11 ripoff in space???
No
@@dukeon LOL you went thru a year old comment??? The bombing of the StarGate is exactly like 9/11 with the resultant military revenge
Just awful, I couldn't get past the first twenty minutes, they ruined a great story; I hope someone someday makes a movie that does justice to Asimov's work.
You're serious?
Yes we are.
Who cares... If someone needs Asimov's book, they just have to read the book.
An interpretation of the book is not the book.
Terrible adaptation. It's not even following the original books.
The show is - I’m sorry - just not good. The acting was on point (most of the time) and I just like the actors. But the writing, dialogues and conversion of the source material was just bad. Incredibly disappointing considering what could’ve been possible with a little more effort.. shame, really. And just another Apple show for the bin.
Garbage show