The Victorian War on Pants? Historically Accurate Gonzo Muppets Christmas Carol Cosplay
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Our bifurcated garments go by many names- trousers, pants, drawers, bloomers, pantaloons, trunks, hose, etc. But the battle of pants vs trousers took off in the mid 19th century. So let's jump back to look at the possible origins of both of these terms and how we've changed our perception of them over the last few centuries! Along the way we'll find bad jokes, political mistakes, and cries for battle. The absurdity that is the story of "pants" is truly worthy of a Muppets retelling.
The journey to get to "a pair of pants" (as is said in America), rather than "trews" is hundreds of years. Why "a pair"? And how did we get such a silly sounding word as Pantaloons? Well, it certainly sounds silly to our modern ears. Decades of time have relegated Pantaloons and Bloomers to historically mythological undergarments (much like Pants has become for the English). But did those terms actually apply to frilly underwear in the 19th century? Needless to say, the transition in terminology was not a smooth one. Turns out just getting Pants in the dictionary was a fight! Honestly, the only thing I'm missing so far is a Punch cartoon and an epic poem to complete the Victorian drama set.
With all of this, it hardly seems like Gonzos choice of wool plaid is the gaudiest part of this garment. And in reality, his style choices are fairly mundane. Fly front, pleated waist, and straight hems. No stirrups, narrow fall fronts, or extreme flare legs. Quite the typical Victorian gentleman walking down the streets of London. Except for the nose maybe.
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00:00 Introduction
03:07 Etymology Origins
08:59 Vulgar Pants
17:29 Gonzo
21:01 Textile
22:20 Fly vs Fall
27:57 Pockets
30:21 Curvy Seams
34:00 Final - Навчання та стиль
You could almost call this outfit a "Gonzemble"..... I've been LOVING this series!
LOL I just scrolled down to comment this exact thing. Great minds.
Clever!
On fall front trousers: the US Navy still uses them. They have 13 buttons, one for each original US state. A friends elderly mother once told me that they used to refer to them as "12 chances to say no".
And the buttonholes are angled differently as you go around the corner - to facilitate just pulling the fall front off the buttons once everything had gotten well broken in.
Only four minutes in and I have to hit the comments section. I repeated the "dog pants" joke to my husband... and after a few seconds of cringe, he grinned and shot back with, "So in other words, they were both trying to get a leg up on one another."
Every time I hear pantaloons I can't help but think of when I was playing dungeons and dragons with my old group that the warlock who wore all black had to wear bright pink pantaloons for a while when his pants got destroyed (bad dice roll on his part) and the pantaloons were the only things we could find.
I’m a Victorianist (in literature) and this series has been absolutely fascinating to me. Thank you for doing this; I’m learning so much!
Nicole: I’ll have to try not to put my hands on my pockets.
In the reveal: (immediately puts hands in pockets)
lol (but really, that’s what they’re for!! As well as holding things.)
I think they came out well! And as for the front when you sit… well, I guess that style is good for masculine types who need a lot of space in front for… things. 🤣🤣🤣
Things like ones eggplant? 🍆Perhaps?😜
🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking there's no junk in the trunk, to fill in the front so excess fabric bunches up.
"See how much material I need in the front to be comfortable?" I see how this could be a humble brag
LOL, I never put pockets in my wife's or daughter's jackets, but I do put them in their trousers/pants
Try those pants with some weiner and tissues taped into place lol.
Just to add to the leg-covering lexicon - "Slacks" and two other commonly used in my parents & grandparents era in mid-20th century Australia - "Daks/Dacks" (people still refer to track-suit pants as "tracky-daks") and my personal favourite "strides".
Aren't slacks a specific style rather than a general term?
@@rd6203 "Slack"(easy/loose) informal trousers rather than fitted/formal I think but that's still a lot of style options
@@sleepywombat2751 Interesting! In the US, slacks are women's nice trousers, something you'd wear to work.
In the US in my area “slacks” are any tailored-style (as opposed to pull on like sweatpants/jogging pants/leggings) that fits in between jeans and suit pants in terms of formality. So they can be quite casual fabric or basically suit fabric but not matching a suit jacket. (Technically if you just wear pants from a suit on their own they could be considered slacks.)
The closing scene is precisely why I hated wearing jeans in the late 80s and early 90s. Pleated fronts and tight waistbands are just awkward.
They might not be attractive while sitting, but they look great standing! I particularly love the mixed plaids of the ensemble…they’re so striking. It’s just fascinating to watch the whole thing come together. Don’t worry about it taking longer. I’m certain I speak for many when I say I would watch this all year. Looking forward to the livestreams!
Agreed!
Yep, had a full on 1980’s flashback on that scene. Not sure which fit was worse the tight high waist with lots of pleats or the extreme low rise…….. I guess at lease you’re not showing your backside. 🤣 The joy of having watched fashion ping pong back and forth - more than once in your lifetime. 😀
Autocorrect! Lease - least 🤦♀️
that was going to be my first comment too. Front pleats on trousers are the worst. They make even the skinniest of models look bloated.
I just sewed my first pleated front pants (actually overalls) a couple days ago, and I was loving how they looked until I sat. That was a suprise to me 😅.
I made myself a pair of woolen trousers last year - no pattern, only madness - and there is SO much crotch. They're comfy, the silhouette is what I wanted, but there's no avoiding the crotch. I have embraced it. (Interestingly, I went for the ultra-wide drop-front method that you described, without even knowing what it was I was doing!)
‘No pattern, only madness.’ Describes my sewing style perfectly. Thank you.
@@kalka1l Describes my whole life, tbh. 😆
If "pants" was in court records, I wonder if it was common usage, at least among shopkeepers. People who have to say the same long word a lot for work tend to shorten.
Pants are underwear in Britain and Ireland, regardless gender. I went to a store in Belfast and asked for pants (thinking of trousers). "Lady or gentleman?" "Gentleman" I said, and I was kindly taken to a section full of boxers, slips, briefs and similar masculine undergarment. 😅
The reason why they're called pants is because it's the abbreviation of "underpants".
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Yes. Basically in the US we abbreviated pantaloons to pants, and in the UK they abbreviated underpantaloons to pants, while in the US we abbreviated it to underpants. No one is wrong. Both places are using an abbreviation, just in a different way.
@@vbrown6445 Exactly!
The same is true for drawers, you will end up in the woman's underwear section or a furniture shop.
@@paulotoole4950 My grandmother called them drawers but I hadn't meet anyone younger using that word... not referring to clothing anyways.
Honestly the little fabric straps on the back to be able to tighten it is the most intriguing part of the construction of these to me that can and maybe should be brought back into women's clothing in the modern era. Let's face it female bodies bloat and go down pretty regularly these little fabric straps and a pair of buttons on each side of the back could be absolutely wonderful as an alternative to elastic. I absolutely abhor elastic in women's waist bands because it's either too tight or too loose and never really quite comfortable and even when I find a pair of that isn't absolutely reprehensible the elastic eventually wears out. By which time it's impossible to get the same quality of elastic as was in a favorite pair of pants to begin with. These little straps made of the same material as the pants seem to be a wonderful potential alternative and I can't wait to experiment with this when I have a little more time in my schedule.
I'm also kind of loving the double button-front that could easily be adapted to go over the top of a modern zipper. So many wonderful ideas for blending trends and making modern ladies wardrobes so much better!!
Elastic just fights against you all the time, it always wants to go down to its smallest length! That rear buckle is genius and I love it. It also creates a gorgeous shape with the V of the high waistband.
I had those straps on a very fancy golf skirt I got second hand. On both sides of the waist with D rings. It was great, they gave a good 3 inches of flexibility to the skirt. It also had 6 huge pockets... it became my favourite skirt for cycling, no I don't do spandex, nobody who is not a professional athlete should do spandex while riding a bike in the city.
I tend to gravitate to dress pants that have the adjusting waistband. I have a large bum and small waist so pants fit to my thighs and not my middle. If I can find the ones with adjusters I get so excited because I know the waist will actually fit and not have belt induced bulging everywhere
I just bought a pair of high-waist jeans that randomly had this on the back. It is indeed fantastic!
@@starwipefilms5960 all women's pants and skirts should have this! Our middle inflates and deflates with the time of month! It used to drive me nuts
The project taking longer than expected just shows the care put into it. It would be super ironic to finish on 12th night given it's a male garment created for a female.
Love the lit reference 😉🔥
Indeed - January 6th is the traditional 12th night of Christmas. In "A Christmas Carol", Scrooge and the Ghost of Christmas Present even travel FORWARD in time to the Feast of Epiphany, before coming back to the 24th. But also, props for the gender-swapping tradition of England.
Can you explain the reference to this slightly confused Norwegian?
@@ragnkja January 6th is considered the 12th night and end of the Christmas season. In England historically, it was a time of masked balls, revelry, drink, and a good bit of mischief. Shakespeare wrote a play called Twelfth Night where (trying not to spoil any plot bits) a woman dresses as a man, and chaos is had. It was a much older tradition that I believe fell out of favor or became outlawed, but still a fun nod to old traditions.
As a (reluctant) Englishwoman, I find it amusing how we demand, and insist, that the bifurcated outwear garment is called "a pair of trousers" whilst the underwear beneath them is "pants", which is short for "underpants". So we wear trousers, and below them we wear an item that is mean to go under pants. We have no right to demand anything of anyone when it comes to the English language, we have done quite enough damage to it, let others carry it forward into the future!
Must be short for 'undertrouserpants' then...
@@tinnagigja3723 "Undertrouserpantaloons" perhaps?
I find the British choose to do a lot of things simply to be posh or tell Americans they are wrong.
@@kohakuaiko Much like telling Americans they came up with the word soccer when that is very much not the case. The British did.
Underpants are pant(aloon)s that go under the other clothes, right?
just to throw this in the mix... in part of the west of Ireland (around Tuam anyway) it was not uncommon to refer to each leg of trousers as 'a pants' and to talk about 'my pantses' to refer to the pair. The bind moggles...! :-)
Love this video series. Great movie, lovely costuming, and the pleasure of watching your research transform into wearable clothing.
I am researching the menswear in the 1830s-40s and a number of fashion plates show fashionable men sitting diagonally across chairs or sofas (Think Fran Drescher in a dress that’s too tight). I thought this was due to the corsetry, but could also resolve the puff you mentioned.
*I MAKE BESPOKE MENS TROUSERS* and just to confirm the interfacing on the button fly etc is a BAD IDEA if the fabric is anything other than circa "tropical weight"
It WILL form the creases of the garment as you sit down and it will HOLD these creases much stronger than the fabric would. You will end up with a corrugated effect at the fly and a most unpleasing bulge when you sit. I dont use ANY interfacing even in the waistband on medium to heavyweight wool, and only light interfacing on light weight wool. *AS YOU SEE AT THE END*
Oh gosh, the part about sitting is so true! I was in a play last year and had 1860’s style pants and I straight up couldn’t look at myself sitting down in them for more than a minute because they just sat so awkwardly.
The etymology of the word pants is my favorite thing I've learned this week
when I was little my mum would not hear of me wearing "trousers" and certainly not allowed to ride a bike-I was allowed to wear "troose" they were slightly more fitted and had a little strap under the foot to prevent them riding up the leg of your boots-1900? 1910? 1920? nope -1960's yes indeed hahahahahaahaa
My mum's cousin loved going to visit my grandparent's house because my grandmother allowed her to wear trousers while playing outside which my great aunt didn't. This would have been the early to mid 60s so you definitely weren't alone!
*THE NARROW FRONT / WIDE BACK* trousers - you pattern match at the knee line - you lay the pieces facing each other on your fabric and the knee line rests ON the same line point...
...and you have a fabric repeat between them. Just as they would be stitched in real life. This is important both for the pattern matching- you evenly distribute the mismatch and minimise it but ALSO to minimise any corkscrew effect that weirdly seems to regularly present its self in these trousers if the pieces are cut front facing back. I have made dozens of these trousers.
As someone who is plagued with a natural stomach paunch, I have always found trousers pleats to be my nemesis. Sitting in pleated trousers is terribly unflattering, and standing isn't much better. That said I love your final results, but would never be able to wear them myself.
If you feel self-conscious, perhaps these are the perfect trousers for you! This way it feels like a stylistic choice rather than you trying to hide your body. I have a bit of a paunch too, despite being otherwise an absolute twig (I may be insane, but we're always our own worst critics). I wear baggy trousers that are fitted around the waist and I feel like nobody can tell, as they would if I wore a bodycon dress for example.
@@beckstheimpatient4135 I believe my paunch would more likely fill out the pleated bit, rather than be concealed by it. Stretched pleats are not a flattering look. 😔
I didn't think athleisure was my friend either until this year I found a brand of comfortable high waist pants that have some support where I need it. That did allow me to try some styles that I really thought I couldn't wear anymore. I'm also enjoying the corset rabbit hole, because they are so slimming and comfortable so far. I have only made one so far, but I really like it. I couldn't afford a bespoke corset. To me that's more flattering for the skirt look. I haven't really tried to figure out the corset plus pants thing yet.
@Sarah Bowmer I haven't attempted to sew anything with pleats yet. I remember the 80's with unflattering pleated trousers that gave appearance of wearing a nappy. I've avoided pleats ever since.
I always knew pants as *mens* underwear (encounters with american mentions of pants therefore often hilarious), womens was always knickers until the last few years. Additional amusing difference: we never call braces suspenders, so the first time I read a book where a man was described as wearing suspenders, I was pretty much picturing Frank-n-furter, cause here suspenders are pretty much always a thing that holds up a woman's stockings...
In the US, I've only ever heard of garters holding up stockings, even for men's socks
@@sarahmcneill1237
Suspenders (British usage) are specifically the kind that are attached either to the corset or to a garter belt, and from which the stockings are _suspended._ masculine garters have historically been the tied or buckled type which is always called “garters” regardless of who is wearing them or which form of English the speaker is using.
Thanks for one more step in decoding my favorite literature. I didn't understand that part of the clothing description. Interestingly though, a brace of something was traditionally a matched pair. I'm thinking of hunting animals for instance. I found that reference way back in Arthurian literature.
This was really cool way to look at the way words adapt and shift; I love the puns of the past! I've definitely heard the "dog, pants" in jokes growing up; who knew it was such an old joke! haha.
I am in love with your chartreuse sweater!
I love the trousers! I'm curious what the logic was of having fashionable trousers that were baggy in front. 18th century breeches were baggy in the crotch and seat but was because they were meant to be worn while riding a horse. This sounds like a great rabbit hole to explore on a Sunday afternoon. Thanks Nicole!
I can tell you that trousers like that will keep you warm and cozy, and you have infinite flexibility - never worry about the lower back being exposed, always have access to pockets even when sitting etc. They look weird as heck, but I've come to terms.
Watch Karolina the meme mom, on her history of ladies fashion that is influenced by men's fashion. She doesn't deal with the topic directly, but she talks a lot about how the sporting outfits or equestrian outfits would influence the other styles. You might be able to see some clues to your answer in some of the styles shown. It's a great question and now I'm curious about it too.
I think it's just so they look good while standing up and then looking baggy when sitting is just inevitable due to the cut. The pleats are bound to contribute: if you wear a high-waisted pleated skirt over pants and pin it in place when standing at around where the legs start properly, then sit with the whole thing pinned down, I don't imagine it would look good either. Being bifurcated and tighter around the side leg seams, it's like the pants are pinned in place there, and allowed to bulge at the crotch when seated.
I inherited a pair of scissors like the ones you used for the button holes. Now I know why they have the gap in the blades!
Don't forget Unmentionables and Gentlemen's Necessaries and other Victorian euphemisms.
I've always had that problem with pleated front trousers, even though I carry my weight low. I actually had work trousers which had a similar adjustment in the back a few years ago (more common piece of fabric either side with two buttons), that was extremely helpful when I had to size up due to fit but the trousers did not have belt loops (they did have decent pockets, and correct length, at least).
Very much in awe of your talent, and I love love love the waistcoat for this.
As for English pants I think part of it comes from "underpants" as that is what they are also known as. So maybe that was once underpantaloons? And evolved from there 🤷♀️
And as for the sitting down - just rock the lady boner aesthetic 😂😂
Where did the term slacks come from?
I love watching this progression into each part of the costume & all the history behind it! And the Muppet Christmas Carol is probably my favorite version of A Christmas Carol.
Once again I learned a ton from one of your videos. The trousers are simply fantastic, notwithstanding the awkward excess in the front. I really appreciate the closeups of your stitching. I'm almost 100% self-taught so seeing you, Bernadette, Cathy, and others hand-stitch really helps me.
I hope you have a fantastic week and I'm excited for a live stream!
Your hand sewing is magical
This has been a great series. I lived in England for 10 years, and pants were undies. Trews or trousers were what you wore over your pants. :)
This was something that answered a lot of my questions regarding the US/UK divide on pants!
On a totally unrelated note, I love your style. You're just looking super gorgeous ☺️
OMG! The pant problem! I so relate to that (I have the same issue with modern pants). Still, so much fun to watch ! Appreciate knowing why pants are sometimes "a pair. " :)
Thank you! I actually have a nearly parallel project underway (mine's less a specific character and more generic Victorian trousers for myself), so seeing your process is very helpful to me for getting my head around the construction. Gowns? Easy. Trousers? Kinda scary!
I can hear an old Victorian ghost pointing out that the trousers don’t need to be attractive when you sit…because sitting isn’t what you should do while wearing them…
The trousers are very similar in the back to those worn during the Civil War. As a living historian, we go by the book , even to the counting of how many stitches per inch.The leg of course doesn’t flair at the bottom as brogan’s we’re worn. There are many suttlers that do sell period correct patterns but tend to be smaller as evidently we were of smaller stature then.
I so enjoy watching you and listening to your expertise analysis of the subject. Muppets have always been a favorite and I’m enjoying this series so much. Thank you
Haha all those pleats in the front are so intense! But I adore the notch back with the buckle so much!!
Question about pre-shrinking wool - I'm in the middle of a deep dive about pre-shrinking wool with your steam iron. Some say to snip the salvage edges of the fabric every 4 or 5 inches. Others say that doing that could cause puckering. To snip, or not to snip. That is the question.
Your pants/trousers/pantaloons are wonderful.
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
Hi Cathy, I'm here in SE TX where it is scheduled to be an 80's F temp Xmas. Hope you have a great Xmas up there in Northern Ontario.
@@KKIcons Thanks! Best of everything for the Season to you too. Actually, we're in Centretown/downtown Ottawa. It's the folks and the grand folks who are the true Northern Ontarians.
Sigh. Above 30 Celsius and a dry heat. Sign me up. Xmas is starting to look good around here. We had a warm flash last week, but there's snow on the ground and sun in the sky. Can't ask for much better.
Cheers!
There's a minor controversy in the U.S. over whether Brigham Young (or possibly Herber C. Kimball) denounced fly-front pants as "fornication pants."
One researcher concluded that if that was ever said, it was actually a knock on people buying merchandise from Easterners instead of giving their money to more tradition-bound, less fashion-conscious Utah garment makers.
Regardless, a gentleman of my acquaintance has more than once in winter announced to unsuspecting companions that beneath his coat he is wearing his fornication pants. In the era of Harvey Weinstein, I am encouraging him to find a new dad joke.
No luck with that so far.
This is the first year without my husband's dad. One thing I dont miss is the type of joke where the main humor is seeing the immediate family try to stop the jokester from ever telling that joke or using that type of humor again, lol.
Gaaaaaahhhh I'm a huge Utah history nerd and have never heard this story! I am ashamed. It is gold! Classic Utah. 😂
It definitely sounds like something they'd say
The history of the trouser was so interesting! I was quietly amazed at how much i already kind of knew, but you filled in the gaps and seemed to anticipate each ‘next question’ that sprang to mind and answered them all! . So good 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I am really enjoying this series. Gonzo has a style and taste all of his own, but good luck to him. He doesn’t need my permission to wear those particular colour combinations. I’m probably just jealous, Lol!
Those pictures of the fashionable fellows wearing their fall front pants always look like they’re wearing incontinence pads to me. But having said that, i have a sewing pattern from the 80’s of a pair which i still love to this day.
Can’t wait till next week! Have a wonderful Christmas🎄 🎅🏼 🎁
Also: Slacks.
I laughed so hard at the end 🤣 trying to arrange the cod muffin fabric 🤣😂🤣🤣
"Cod muffin" is an amazing term. This made my week.
These are the cutest pants - uhuh hmmm...trousers! ever. And you wear them so well. Don’t worry about the seated bulk.There is such a charm in the whole outfit, it just doesn’t really matter. Plus, anyone who sees you sitting there is going to ask you to “go for a walk” with them anyway. Well done!
I so enjoyed all of your research on history of pants/trousers.
Don't worry, they are the perfect fit for extra cookie eating during the holidays!!!
I was thinking, oh my gosh I need a pair of these. And then I started laughing out loud at the end of the video when you were sitting. 🤣
That Victorian war on pants sounds to me like the endless French debate of pain au chocolat vs chocolatine!
In a novel written in 1911 a man makes the statement that he is educated in literature, "even if I do wear khaki trousers--save in deference to your ladyship, I probably would have said 'pants.'"
Interesting, in Aussie downunder we use trousers and pants interchangeable 🙂
We do too here in Canada. I think because both of our countries are influenced by the commonwealth and USA.
I've been eying a pretty pair of 1830s cossack trousers, so this was a very timely video. I was waiting for this, more than any other garment on the ensemble.
I enjoyed these pants more than I would have ever imagined. You are so enchanting!
Love the Gonzo series! I can't wait to see the finished outfit.
Also, the sweater you're wearing looks amazing on you!
This outfit is coming together so gloriously! I'm so impressed and inspired!
these are so beautifully constructed! I would love to see a modern remake of these pants.
I needed this when I was thirteen and in English class (English as a foreign language) started learning American English. And my teacher gave us a table of a few words that are different in American English (you usually start learning British English). And my thirteen year old brain didn't understand why pavements are now called sidewalks and trousers are called pants.
Very insightful. Thank you!
This was entirely too delightful! Thank you so much for sharing. And I love the trousers, although I am with you on the pleating and sitting part! 😆
If it is possible, I would love to see a playback of your live stream, as my time constraints fluctuate and I am not always available even though I am interested.
Again, thank you so much for sharing!
As far as timing goes I think an extended timeline fits the theme of keeping Christmas year round. ^_^
I for one swill be excited to see all your videos and time is hardly linear feeling right now anyway.
In modern usage - in England someone described as wearing "vest and pants" would be in their underwear. To get the same as the American meaning they would be in "waistcoat and trousers" in England. For that matter, "suspenders" are also an underwear item (that hold up stockings) the items that hold up trousers are called "braces" in England (and we also use "braces" as the word for the wire contraptions that straighten teeth).
looking forward to live streams ❤️ I'm seeing Gonzo now and I absolutely love the bright colors the pants are gorgeous while standing lmao ❤️ also thank you for sharing your research, I've done some of my own today historical Alice costume ( I am trying so hard to see how I can get around the Bertha and begota sleeves)
You should make a video on your historically accurate Alice costume. I'd love to see it!
I would love a link to follow that project if possible.
You always make really wonderful videos, full of lots of historical information. I would be interested in seeing an in depth video on how you go about researching things. How to find the right terms to use, how to find good places to find information, how to fact check things etc.
I am learning so much from you! Not only this series but in all your videos. I love how much you teach us before actually making the garment.
Wow Nicole!! Thank you for putting such care and craftsmanship in this wonderful project. You never fail to educate and intrigue me. Thank you so much for sharing your talents with us. Can’t wait to see the live streams and wishing you all the best for the holidays. ❤️🎄❤️
Oh imagine Gonzo as the Lord of Misrule!
For those of us who still celebrate the season on a more traditional schedule you are on track! Twelfth Night goes on until January 6 - plenty of time and if that’s not enough time…
In Puerto Rico we used to celebrate Octavas for 8 days past Epiphany/Three Kings Day these days officially ending on January 14th. Although when I was young we kept partying through the Octavitas - 40 days after Christmas until Candlemas (February 2nd) where we set our Christmas trees ablaze - a tradition I still do annually.
Which is my rambling way of saying, you are doing amazing sartorial work and it’s going to take the time that it takes. Enjoy the season and the creation, that’s the best bit anyway.
I’ve been enjoying this series. I love your attention to detail, you are a consummate artist!!!
I’m glad you pointed out the bunching of the trousers while sitting because I was questioning that myself lol
For some reason this was put in recommendation feed, glad it did, fascinating etymology, learned some neat details, a fabric resource (even though don't sew historic garments, love the feel and stoutness), plus had a laugh that I needed. Now going back and watching more.
This series is amazing. I am enjoying each video, each garment. It is so inspiring 😍
I LOVE that you start your videos by talking about the history behind the item/how you arrived at this project/design
Love this project! Looking forward to next pieces. Such interesting history, cool to hear your strategy, and very relaxing watching you stitch. Loved the very real (made me laugh) ending… Thank you for taking on this Gonzo project.
Delightful as ever!!! I love the way your ensamble looks so far! Those plaid trousers with the bright checkered waistcoat is fantastic. I am living for this! I hope you have a wonderful holiday :D
I am loving this series of projects.
I love learning new things with Nicole!
Looking forward to the live stream 🙂
Nicole, these trousers are so beautiful and I love the whole Gonzo ensemble. You have been such an inspiration to me to look at all things in life with different eyes and to realize I can do more and be more creative. More and more lately I have been repairing clothing, hemming pants, placing a seam in those sleeve folds that flop over, etc. I don't have and don't know how to use a sewing machine, so any sewing I do is by hand. I am a teacher for the blind and I enjoy watching your videos while I make teaching materials.
I'm sooooo not on this level of sewing/tailoring, but I am learning so much from you. What I don't understand now is fine, because I'm still picking up good tips-and the history is fantastic. Thank you!
Nicole your channel, and Bernadettes have the most cinematic presentation of historical dress and costubing by far.
Even when it's just the work room and slice of life.
While I love all dozen of the creators I subscribe to in the genre, you folks set the bar, in my humble opinion.
Your craftsmanship at all stages of production is distinctive and evident.
I tip my metaphorical hat to you both.
I love the shoes you're wearing for modeling your progress at then end.
Btw just as an idea, would be nice to see a reconstruction of the tipical 1830 dandy corsets
Thank you for sharing where you got your fabric. I think I have died and gone to fabric heaven.
I am absolutely loving this series and the historical information each video.
You should also bear in mind that in English we do use the word 'pants', but it has a different meaning - we use it to refer to undergarments (what I suspect Americans would refer to as underpants), and more often male underwear rather than female underwear.
in the US, the blanket term is just "underwear". "Underpants" is technically correct (people would know what you're talking about) but feels like a dated term. Men's underwear is either underwear or the specific style (boxer/brief), women's underwear is either underwear, panties, or sometimes specific style if it differs from the standard shape (so, boyshorts or thongs, mostly). I've also seen people write "undies" but I've never actually heard anyone say it out loud.
Probably more than you wanted to know about the linguistics of American undergarments! (also a technically correct term, btw, but not one we'd be likely to say in casual conversation)
Not related, but thats a lovely colour jumper you have on. Also love this series so much 👏
Men LOVED those pants because they were able to enhance what they had to offer & it was roomy enough for the boys to just be comfortable.
Hey, I'm here for the process, not the product. Take all the time you need. This is the antithesis of "fast fashion." It involves all the things I hate about "fast fashion" because they are conspicuously absent: forethought, craftswomanship, and the careful production of a custom-made, one-of-a-kind, finished garment that will stand up to time and wear.
I think part of the problem with the fullness in the front of those pants is the "fullness in the front" that men have and women don't . . . although the fullness may be an early Victorian attempt to disguise the precise size and shape of that "fullness" as a reaction to the "nothing left to the imagination" cut of breeches from the Regency period. The silhouette of those pants reminds me of the "straight out of the 1950's" cut of women's blue "utility" uniform pants from the USAF in the 1970's. Side zip, box pleats, and a waist band. We called them "fat pants" for a reason.
I was hoping you’d mention the sans culottes! I was just re-listening to an excellent podcast chronicling the French Revolution. The clothing distinctions by class were a really big deal.
Thank you Nicole!
Once upon a time……. About 20 years ago…… I moved to the UK from Canada. One evening while I was visiting with a group of friends, a mild panic erupted. It wasn’t a big deal, but one friend (who was a bit old fashioned and proper) was quite fussed. He continued to fuss while the problem was being sorted out and, slightly exasperated, I turned to him and said, “Keep your pants on!” His eyebrows shot up to his hairline, he turned beet red and sputtered out, “you do know what pants are don’t you?” I didn’t have a clue. My poor friend whispered in a shocked voice, “men’s. Underwear”.
Aaaahh, just started watching & we have almost the exact same jumper on! ^^ 💚
Thank you!🎄🎄
I'm a staunch early modernist but I really enjoy the history of fashion from any period. I've really found this series fascinating!! Thanks for putting together such a cool series! Also that sweater looks incredibly comfy and it's a beautiful color! :)
Maybe I’m overanalyzing this, but I’ve now become immensely curious about this one line said in a Marx brothers movie (which were American); there’s a cutaway gag where Groucho Marx is heard yodeling, and it’s revealed that he’s pulled his pants up to match the length of other people in breeches. Another character walks in to tell him he’s got an appointment somewhere, then explains “you can’t go with your trousers up!” Now I’m wondering, why did she use the term trousers in an American movie of the 1930s? Just an interesting connection I thought of
Rufus T. Firefly in Duck Soup.
Hail, Hail, Freedonia!
Those Marx brothers have about 5 jokes fly over my head for each one I get, and they are still funny. Your example is case in point.
looking more gonzo every day! good job!
So much fabric !🤣 i like the color and it looks really nice with the waistcoat 👍🏻 i like the detail at the back waist. It’s cute
I love that you hand sewed it all. ♥ tell us about that sweater, though! Its lovely!
Never mind how long it takes till it's done I'll wait 🔥🔥🔥
I love that back closure detail. I know it's not exactly the plan but I love how functional it is. I think I might add it to some trousers that I will be making soon.
Panterloonery!!! love it! These look great but yeah sitting is not your friend in these. I am also really glad to hear you want to finish the outfit well and "not on time".
I want the pattern for your sweater! It's GORGEOUS!
Oh I can't wait for the live stream. And I love those pants, guess they spent alot of time standing or something lolz.