Wait a minute... Doesn't that Titan at the middle look TOO similar to the statue under the rain in Undertale? The eyes at his chest is definitely the ones we see at the first puzzle in the dark world(even the hint to solve the puzzle seems to be connected to the awakening of the titans). And those eyes from the titan's head is definitely the appearance of the save point..... Things will definitely take a serious turn from chapter 3 and beyond
i still dont understand why when we enter the closet in chapter 1 we started at at that part but in chapter 2 we starts at castle town? and "in this world, only eyes covered by darkness can see the way" sounds so foreshadowing
When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky All will fall into CHAOS. The TITANS will take form from the FOUNTAINS And envelop the land in devastation. The surviving Darkners, crushed by the darkness Will slowly, one by one, turn into statues... Leaving the Lightners to fend for themselves. Lost eternally in an endless night... Is that your idea of paradise?
Okay so am I the only one who thinks this seems very similar to Don't Forget? When the LIGHT is running low, And the SHADOWS start to grow, And the places that you know, Seem like fantasy. The first two lines are obviusly very similar to the legend, and the last two are basically telling that the places that we know seem like fantasy because they have turned into dark worlds thanks to the fountains being everywhere. Also, the Don't Forget leitmotif is literally in this song so...
Probably you can unlock them during the chapters depending of the road (about the Pasifist or the Genocide). But damn you're right, I wanna fight a titan
Isn’t it weird that light and dark are “balanced” as-is? I mean, there’s a *lot* of room for the lightners, and the darkners just.. live in a tiny little town, you know? Why does creating one more fountain offset this “balance”? Is it possible Ralsei is only telling us part of the truth? For example, the roaring could be a totally real thing, but it would take a lot more fountains to cause it. But then, why would he hide this from us? To get us to work harder so it doesn’t get to that point?
FINALLY!!!! SOMEONE MEMTIONS THISS!!!!!!! YES! How is the world “balanced” if there’s only ONE Dark Fountain creating one dark world at a time!! That doesn’t make any sense!! If anything the balance should already be disrupted by now due to the Lightner’s having control over literally the entire freaking planet!☯️
Also nobody talked about how the dark worlds have seemingly been here for not that long, yet it's like they existed for many years with various events happening through time as you can collect from what you're told in-game. Does that mean they existed before and went into stasis or something ? Or that they were there already but you couldn't access them ? Ralsei does mention that a new fountain just appeared at the beginning of the game, but if we can't trust him that might be wrong
@@me67galaxylife Hmm, maybe that’s similar to a “last thursday” effect. Maybe the fountains also generate memories for the darkners, which is.. slightly terrifying. It could also be the case that dark worlds move faster than the light world, which, while slightly less terrifying, has scary implications for the future.
@@bonthebunnycat667 I mean, Ralsei has very little actual experience of ruling and helping people, and he really only desires to be useful and helpful in the long-run. I think that's actually a very interesting way of actually causing a fight with him in a later chapter. It fits the "Ralsei is lying" theory as well as the "Ralsei is being genuine" theory. I definitely think Ralsei may cause/be involved in something going horribly wrong, but I just can't see To y really pulling something as weird as "Ralsei is super-evil" on us, especially since he's known for making the primary villains of his games complex in many ways. Even King has redeemable qualities and a personal history of his own.
When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW... When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky, All will fall into *CHAOS...* The TITANS will take form from the FOUNTAINS... And envelop the land in _devastation._ The surviving Darkners, crushed by the darkness... _Will slowly, one by one, turn into statues..._ *Leaving the Lightners to fend for themselves.* _Lost eternally in an endless night..._ *_Is that your idea of paradise?_*
With the faces looking similar to save points, I wonder if the player has relations to the titans? Maybe the soul is some sort of weaken repressed titan that can only has influence through the use of "puppets" like kris.
Yooo that’s actually a good theory!!! Yeah I could totally see that happening. Maybe we the player are a Titan who lost their physical body and possessed Kris in order to free our brethren.
@@alirezaomrani7650 Or maybe the one ripping us out is the Titan. We are supposed to be the Light, the titan is the dark and Kris is just the vessel for the battle between.
@murloc_rampage3856 Actually the Titans are implied to be the OPPOSITE of the Balance. They are the manifestations of the CHAOS that occurs, whenever the world is imbalanced and the fountains are out of control.
@@Omega-AlexGt Actually, we won't, as their will still be the central dark fountain in Ralsei's castle keeping the dark world going, and keeping the balance in check.
@@mebbletheschmebble7508 What if somehow we can bring ralsei to the light World? (as a shadow or something) , or maybe the last chapter takes place in ralsei fountain
@@Omega-AlexGt I think the roaring makes it so dark worlds consume the world so there won’t be a light world making the dark world the only one allowing lightnerds and darknerds interact without the need of going to a different dimension
If I really really try to make the "determination-shaped face" work... Could the titans be some sort of player incarnation ? Like, when the world is filled with darkness, a "player" appear, or a team of 4 players ( think the heroes of light in final fantasy 1 ) and their goal is to close the fountains, killing all monsters in their path and pillaging every treasures they can find before leaving the world forever ( end of the game, which would mean the end of the world, since there really is nothing else after). "close the 6 fountains of darkness" really sounds like a plot you could have from an early final fantasy game. Not a theory, just a thought. I think it could be an interesting way to make things work. I'm sure Toby have something else in mind.
The one in the middle looks like it's from Ralsei's Fountain and the other two look like they belong to the Cyber World. From this, I theorize that every Dark World has their own unique Titan.
So, we know our goal, that's seal the dark fountains. We also know What happens if There is more Darkness than light... But... What If There is more light than Darkness? What If we Make more Light Fountains? Perhaps we see the angel coming from *[[Heaven]]*
This song make me think about how the universe will end, in a empty darkness only covered by black holes, like what would happen if the Roaring appeared.
@@xaralamposkarapaulos5225 Kris wearing Noelle's watch in the Light World after putting it on in the Dark World and what happens to Berdly in the alternate route pretty thoroughly debunks the Dark World being simple fantasy, I think.
No, I could make a long teary or why not but two things 1. Susie acts to grown up to play some games And Noelle won't kill beardly they are kinda friends
not only that but if you watch too much AOT, then you also watch ALOT of anıme, like how my youtube recommendations are doing right now, they stopped sending me memes and anything else
Wait a minute... Those eyes were on the walls in the dark world before we fell to Ralsei's town. He also stated that when we close fountains and bring the pieces to his fountain, it gets stronger. Could that be the twist? On the good route Ralsei betrays us by making his fountain strong enough to envelope the sky and cover the world in darkness?
The better version of the theme, IMO. It sells the feeling of doom and devastation that the Roaring is supossed to be way more than the OST version. It screams "Hear me well, for this is my warning..."
I have a theory that the knight doesn’t exist, that the knight that opens the fountains are really just lightners in pain. The second fountain could’ve been made by Berdly or Noelle, we already know that Kris opened the third one, and so on. I don’t know who would’ve made the first fountain though, it could’ve been Susie, but it could also be a darkner. It is possible.
The don’t forget motif…did the roaring happen before? Is Ralsei the one “singing” don’t forget? Is the song meant to be directed by him for you, to remind you not to do the same mistake that had happened before? It could explain why he had been so lonely and why nobody else knows about the roaring. Im starting to think this goat guy isn’t as innocent as he looks…he knows too much…
I'm seeing the symbols on the Titans and I can't gelp but be remnded of the symbols from the Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Wonder if there's a correlation or not...
Ralsei tells about the roaring in ch. 2 he said: WHEN THE SURVIVING DARKNERS CRUSHED BY DARKNESS AND SLOW INTO STATUES, that means in ch. 7 ralsei turned into statue because he is a prince from the dark right?
From experience with rpgmaker theres an option to speed up or slow down sound effects or music tracks, Toby probably wanted it to sound a little deeper or slower in this scene in particular, just to set the mood.
@@straydogontheroad also from my experience if you sleep with one song on loop it sounds different so maybe that has something to do with it but that doesn’t change anything bout how i hate the album pith
Wait a minute... Doesn't that Titan at the middle look TOO similar to the statue under the rain in Undertale?
The eyes at his chest is definitely the ones we see at the first puzzle in the dark world(even the hint to solve the puzzle seems to be connected to the awakening of the titans). And those eyes from the titan's head is definitely the appearance of the save point..... Things will definitely take a serious turn from chapter 3 and beyond
OMG you're right!
BRO WHAT, YOU ARE RIGHT
i still dont understand why when we enter the closet in chapter 1 we started at at that part but in chapter 2 we starts at castle town? and "in this world, only eyes covered by darkness can see the way" sounds so foreshadowing
And the statue under the rain was meant to represent Asriel.
@@NtronX-gs4xr wait..... where are the papers???
When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW
When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky
All will fall into CHAOS.
The TITANS will take form from the FOUNTAINS
And envelop the land in devastation.
The surviving Darkners, crushed by the darkness
Will slowly, one by one, turn into statues...
Leaving the Lightners to fend for themselves.
Lost eternally in an endless night...
Is that your idea of paradise?
Wow, this is more than I thought, the truth was I was speechless
Okay so am I the only one who thinks this seems very similar to Don't Forget?
When the LIGHT is running low,
And the SHADOWS start to grow,
And the places that you know,
Seem like fantasy.
The first two lines are obviusly very similar to the legend, and the last two are basically telling that the places that we know seem like fantasy because they have turned into dark worlds thanks to the fountains being everywhere.
Also, the Don't Forget leitmotif is literally in this song so...
well yes
@@Muyiam yeah, it makes sense Don't Forget is talking about The Roaring, which makes the second part of the song really intresting
woah I never knew that
My favourite piece Toby has done so far. Bone chilling, sounds like it could be in Chrono Trigger.
**fluffy boy enters serious mode*
"It's about to get like Evangelion, get the fuck out"
Ok Eggman
Huh. Yeah. The eyes on that central titan there are all over the walls when you first fall into the Dark World in Chapter 1. o_o
Maybe we walked on a sleeping titan? 0-0
Save point shape for both Undertale and Deltarune.
Ngl but the titans would make a fantastic boss in the future
Im assuming one of them will probably be a boss in like the last chapter
If we don't get to fight a titan, imma be disappointed....
@@sarrakitty the fun gang might need odm gears XD
Probably you can unlock them during the chapters depending of the road (about the Pasifist or the Genocide). But damn you're right, I wanna fight a titan
_*My theory is that Toby could’ve probably used that Punch-Out Mechanic and maybe even reuse it for a Titan/Titans fight/s._
Isn’t it weird that light and dark are “balanced” as-is? I mean, there’s a *lot* of room for the lightners, and the darkners just.. live in a tiny little town, you know? Why does creating one more fountain offset this “balance”? Is it possible Ralsei is only telling us part of the truth? For example, the roaring could be a totally real thing, but it would take a lot more fountains to cause it. But then, why would he hide this from us? To get us to work harder so it doesn’t get to that point?
Maybe he wants his particular fountain to be stronger and only let darkners live in his dark world, you know, recruiting people is what he asks of us
FINALLY!!!! SOMEONE MEMTIONS THISS!!!!!!! YES! How is the world “balanced” if there’s only ONE Dark Fountain creating one dark world at a time!! That doesn’t make any sense!! If anything the balance should already be disrupted by now due to the Lightner’s having control over literally the entire freaking planet!☯️
Also nobody talked about how the dark worlds have seemingly been here for not that long, yet it's like they existed for many years with various events happening through time as you can collect from what you're told in-game. Does that mean they existed before and went into stasis or something ? Or that they were there already but you couldn't access them ? Ralsei does mention that a new fountain just appeared at the beginning of the game, but if we can't trust him that might be wrong
@@me67galaxylife Hmm, maybe that’s similar to a “last thursday” effect. Maybe the fountains also generate memories for the darkners, which is.. slightly terrifying. It could also be the case that dark worlds move faster than the light world, which, while slightly less terrifying, has scary implications for the future.
@@bonthebunnycat667 I mean, Ralsei has very little actual experience of ruling and helping people, and he really only desires to be useful and helpful in the long-run. I think that's actually a very interesting way of actually causing a fight with him in a later chapter. It fits the "Ralsei is lying" theory as well as the "Ralsei is being genuine" theory. I definitely think Ralsei may cause/be involved in something going horribly wrong, but I just can't see To y really pulling something as weird as "Ralsei is super-evil" on us, especially since he's known for making the primary villains of his games complex in many ways. Even King has redeemable qualities and a personal history of his own.
When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW...
When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky,
All will fall into *CHAOS...*
The TITANS will take form from the FOUNTAINS...
And envelop the land in _devastation._
The surviving Darkners, crushed by the darkness...
_Will slowly, one by one, turn into statues..._
*Leaving the Lightners to fend for themselves.*
_Lost eternally in an endless night..._
*_Is that your idea of paradise?_*
Hell No it’s Not…
Why the Hell would I ever wish for that?
Oh Damn I Did Not Know That
Finally. It took way to long to find one that was actually how it sounded in game.
With the faces looking similar to save points, I wonder if the player has relations to the titans? Maybe the soul is some sort of weaken repressed titan that can only has influence through the use of "puppets" like kris.
Yooo that’s actually a good theory!!! Yeah I could totally see that happening. Maybe we the player are a Titan who lost their physical body and possessed Kris in order to free our brethren.
@@alirezaomrani7650 Or maybe the one ripping us out is the Titan. We are supposed to be the Light, the titan is the dark and Kris is just the vessel for the battle between.
@murloc_rampage3856 Actually the Titans are implied to be the OPPOSITE of the Balance.
They are the manifestations of the CHAOS that occurs, whenever the world is imbalanced and the fountains are out of control.
So the roaring in what happens when the light is subsumed by shadow but what happens when the shadow is subsumed by light?
We'll discover if we manage to close all the fountains
the game ends.
@@Omega-AlexGt Actually, we won't, as their will still be the central dark fountain in Ralsei's castle keeping the dark world going, and keeping the balance in check.
@@mebbletheschmebble7508 What if somehow we can bring ralsei to the light World? (as a shadow or something) , or maybe the last chapter takes place in ralsei fountain
@@Omega-AlexGt I think the roaring makes it so dark worlds consume the world so there won’t be a light world making the dark world the only one allowing lightnerds and darknerds interact without the need of going to a different dimension
Perfect use of the Secret of Mana Soundfont
jfc, finally someone realizes its from SoM and not Chrono Trigger
ik its the internet but i can have my pet peeves.
It was very shocking to me I was speechless
I was looking for this version
Ty for uploading it :]
Ralsei forgot to explain this to King lmao
If I really really try to make the "determination-shaped face" work... Could the titans be some sort of player incarnation ? Like, when the world is filled with darkness, a "player" appear, or a team of 4 players ( think the heroes of light in final fantasy 1 ) and their goal is to close the fountains, killing all monsters in their path and pillaging every treasures they can find before leaving the world forever ( end of the game, which would mean the end of the world, since there really is nothing else after). "close the 6 fountains of darkness" really sounds like a plot you could have from an early final fantasy game.
Not a theory, just a thought. I think it could be an interesting way to make things work. I'm sure Toby have something else in mind.
Now this is a cool theory!
The one in the middle looks like it's from Ralsei's Fountain and the other two look like they belong to the Cyber World. From this, I theorize that every Dark World has their own unique Titan.
.........if you......speed it up.........you can hear your best nightmare......a bit
Idk if you saw the same, but the Titans Eye's looks like the checkpoints of both chapters O.O
the song that plays when you fucked up badly.
So, we know our goal, that's seal the dark fountains. We also know What happens if There is more Darkness than light... But...
What If There is more light than Darkness? What If we Make more Light Fountains? Perhaps we see the angel coming from *[[Heaven]]*
As far as we know "light fountains" don't actually exist just dark ones.
This song make me think about how the universe will end, in a empty darkness only covered by black holes, like what would happen if the Roaring appeared.
Are the titans just the grown ups interrupting a child's game???
Seriously, it could be all just a game in reality sooooo....
@@xaralamposkarapaulos5225
Or they're simply other humans besides Kris.
@@xaralamposkarapaulos5225 Kris wearing Noelle's watch in the Light World after putting it on in the Dark World and what happens to Berdly in the alternate route pretty thoroughly debunks the Dark World being simple fantasy, I think.
No, I could make a long teary or why not but two things
1. Susie acts to grown up to play some games
And Noelle won't kill beardly they are kinda friends
@@AveVoidance jevil was just brasking the 4th wall
I have clearly watched too much Attack on Titan before reading these comments
not only that but if you watch too much AOT, then you also watch ALOT of anıme, like how my youtube recommendations are doing right now, they stopped sending me memes and anything else
This made brushing my teeth feel very dramatic
This really deserves more than 1 like 😭😭
Truly haunting...
Wait a minute... Those eyes were on the walls in the dark world before we fell to Ralsei's town. He also stated that when we close fountains and bring the pieces to his fountain, it gets stronger. Could that be the twist? On the good route Ralsei betrays us by making his fountain strong enough to envelope the sky and cover the world in darkness?
That could be it, ralsei is just too suspicious to not do anything malicious against us.
I can hear field of hopes and dreams when I speed it up to x2
As well as The World Revolving
@@TheBanishedWind It has bits of the "Freedom" motif
Thank you!
The better version of the theme, IMO.
It sells the feeling of doom and devastation that the Roaring is supossed to be way more than the OST version.
It screams "Hear me well, for this is my warning..."
I have a theory that the knight doesn’t exist, that the knight that opens the fountains are really just lightners in pain. The second fountain could’ve been made by Berdly or Noelle, we already know that Kris opened the third one, and so on. I don’t know who would’ve made the first fountain though, it could’ve been Susie, but it could also be a darkner. It is possible.
As far as we know, Darkners can’t open new dark worlds.
@@TheDragonCat99 alr
the center titan looks like seam but it's literally a demon
The RUMBLING KNIGHT… The one who was determined to create this world.
Why do the titans look like ultra beasts from pokemon
Or am I weird
It's like an Ultra Beast
@@Mednessen I was thinking the same thing
Lore of Deltarune : Chapter 2 OST - The Dark Truth (INGAME) momentum 100
"I was able to create a button that could stop all of this... But I can't press it."
The Pillar Men
The don’t forget motif…did the roaring happen before? Is Ralsei the one “singing” don’t forget? Is the song meant to be directed by him for you, to remind you not to do the same mistake that had happened before? It could explain why he had been so lonely and why nobody else knows about the roaring. Im starting to think this goat guy isn’t as innocent as he looks…he knows too much…
Oh my lord.. imagine fighting those gods. That'd be a step up from the God of Hyperdeath...
Hmm yes what should've been the weird route version of the dark truth
I'm seeing the symbols on the Titans and I can't gelp but be remnded of the symbols from the Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Wonder if there's a correlation or not...
Oh damn yeah
NGL they sorta remind me of the monoliths from Minecraft’s dimensional doors mod. Which is fucking terrifying
@@alirezaomrani7650 Regardless, these dudes are either super terrifying or just big softies
I hope for the former hahah
omg, a cross!!!!!!?
This reminds me of coldness
Ralsei tells about the roaring in ch. 2 he said:
WHEN THE SURVIVING DARKNERS CRUSHED BY DARKNESS AND SLOW INTO STATUES, that means in ch. 7 ralsei turned into statue because he is a prince from the dark right?
when you have school in some days
Why do those two twin-like titans remind me of those Ninja variants from Sonic Frontiers?
I could've sworn, the titans would are related to the combine from Half Life 2.
Another Him
The titans are awake, Chara is ready to finish her plan, Gaster is with her
You are filled with DETERMINATION for the Last time
Why is the album version so high pitched
From experience with rpgmaker theres an option to speed up or slow down sound effects or music tracks, Toby probably wanted it to sound a little deeper or slower in this scene in particular, just to set the mood.
@@straydogontheroad also from my experience if you sleep with one song on loop it sounds different so maybe that has something to do with it but that doesn’t change anything bout how i hate the album pith
@@straydogontheroad he uses gamemaker studio 2 but yea he probably did that