What's My Line? - Arthur Murray; Pier Angeli & Vic Damone; Paul Winchell [panel] (Jun 17, 1956)
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- MYSTERY GUEST: Arthur Murray [owns a chain of dance schools]; Pier Angeli & Vic Damone [singer]
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Paul Winchell, Dorothy Kilgallen, Robert Q. Lewis - Розваги
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Pier Angeli was SO BEAUTIFUL! 😍
Arlene: "Well, that kills the singing bit." 5:40 For someone who never claimed to be a comedienne, she came out with some wonderfully funny lines.
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She's a living doll, one of the most beautiful woman ever to appear on WML
She's quite plain actually. Just sayin
@@DeRothschiId I guess you're enjoying your pride month, ay?, because the majority of us can see she is drop-dead gorgeous!
Arlene is one of the most beautiful women on WML
@@DeRothschiId lets her natural beauty take the stage rather than a load of makeup. For me she's definitely up there in terms of looks, but I see why someone who prefer the more glammed up look would consider her plain.
@@tompaulcampbell She really isn't someone to write home about for her looks. Just nice-looking.
An interesting episode. Pier Angeli was lovely.
“Well that kills the singing bit”. Arlene Francis is priceless!
She is exactly that. I also love the way she flirts with Jerry!
In 1971, at the age of 39, Angeli was found dead of an accidental overdose at her home in Beverly Hills, but In a letter to a friend just before her death, Pier said “…My love died at the wheel of a Porsche. It’s now been 17 years that I’ve been lonely, desperately lonely. I want to find peace and be free and finally be with my father and Jimmy again.”
Dorothy Kilgallen also died of an overdose nine years after this episode.
Sunny von Bulow also died of an overdose. Her husband recently had conducted an extramarital affair with a former cast member of the canceled soap opera Dark Shadows. Before its cancellation, two of its other cast members, not the homewrecker, appeared as mystery guests on What’s My Line?.
@@blackie75 Dorothy Kilgallen was murdered.
@Chang Noi Did you see the story of the journalist who petitioned the court to have Dorothy Kilgallen's body exhumed? He's convinced that there is touch DNA which can be identified.
@@fje6902 I hope they find out something.
Paul Winchell was such a good WML questioner that Daly gave him the honor of starting a regular round.
Winchell was the inventor of the artificial heart .
God, he won't even let her speak. He tries to answer all of the questions aimed at her.
They thought it was going to give it away because of her accent, and she spoke very limited English. She actually spoke not a single word of English when she was cast in her first film in the US, she had to have a translator for all her lines and meetings with the Studios.
She also answered his questions later in the show
Robert Q Lewis strikes me as a very fun gy. I would have loved to have a sit down with all the WML panelist and really get to know them.
I worked with Paul Winchell's son, Stacy back in the early 70s on the ambulance in LA. He was attending UCLA med school and worked a couple of days a week. We worked in the Hollywood and West Hollywood area. He looked so much like Paul in this episode. Paul was a student in medicine too as I recall Stacy telling me. Don't know whatever became of Stacy but he was good to work with.
Wow! Pier is so gorgeous! :-) Interesting to imagine if she might have married Kirk Douglas (they were engaged) or if James Dean lived and they got back together. So many "what if's" since her life with Vic Damone was so sad.
pier angeli
Well, I think she dodged a bullet regarding Kirk Douglas. Not only was he a notorious womanizer but he has a history of violence toward women.
If he ever treated a woman violently, any obituary writer who mentions it is at risk for unemployment. This is because the actor has outlived virtually any woman he might have mistreated, so no hard evidence exists.
If a “warts-and-all book,” so to speak, about him is ever published, its author and its readers will be a day late and a dollar short.
@@kelloggs5473 Douglas admitted that he often took his anger out on women in his first autobiography, "The Ragman's Son'. There is a particular passage on how he used sex to humiliate a woman whom he believed to be anti-Semitic.
@Muirmaiden - Major media outlets already have prepared obituaries for Kirk Douglas. When they circulate, you might find that they mention The Ragman’s Son, but they won’t go into detail about his violent treatment of women in the 1950s. That is a part of Tinseltown history that interests the same few people who gossip about the types of dresses that Pier Angeli wore.
A mass audience pays attention only to 1950s Cinemascope movies and to kinescopes of intelligent game shows. Other stuff is water under the bridge. May the allegedly anti-Semitic lady rest in peace.
Can you imagine Pier Angeli and James Dean in " Somebody up there likes me"? They both would have won Oscars. But he died and Paul Newman got the part.
Notice that when Vic talks about Pier's upcoming film, "Somebody Up There Likes Me" (1956), Pier appears to lapse into melancholy sadness. James Dean was supposed to star in that film (in fact, she had helped him rehearse for it) after his death, he was replaced by Paul Newman.
Yes 21.10...so evident...her 'emotions look raw' one year later.....so 'sad'...
Correction: James Dean cannot be replaced. Paul was awarded the role in his absence and perhaps many other roles Jimmy would have landed. If only.
@@kathrynj.hernandez8425 Amen .
Just love these series they are really funny ,can recomment them to all
Pier was absolutely beautiful, a luminous, fragile beauty. Haunted eyes. Diahann Carroll, who married Vic in the 1980's, didn't have many nice things to say about him in the aftermath of their divorce, but by all accounts, he seems to have mellowed in his old age.
Wow, Pier and Ms. Carroll were soulful beauties. Vic's an attractive guy, but he certainly was successful out of his league with women (at least while it lasted).
I read Vic's autobiography where he comes off squeaky clean.
Love the way Pier blows a meek little kiss at the end. So sweet.
GordanGeeko Yea, I sure wouldn't mind if Pier would have blow me a little too! That indeed would have been real Sweet too. I wouldn't have mind one bit.
When I was in junior high school, they offered Arthur Murray dance lessons in the gymnasium during the noon hours. That's how we learned to dance back in the 40's. Fox-trot, waltz, two-step, etc. Unfortunately, that's where my dancing abilities became petrified. There were feet drawn and numbered in paper on the floor showing where to step, and one stepped on them in proper order. My dance partner, Gordon Best and I even entered the season's end contest. I don't think we won it. I know of only a very few of us still alive who can dance "properly" with each other anymore. Unfortunately Gordon moved to Sacramento during high school, so at dance parties, I mostly watch everyone and drink gin.
Sweet lord Jesus, did Vic hit it out of the park there. She was stunning.
Angeli was born in Italy and romantically linked to Kirk Douglas and James Dean before marrying Damone. Their marriage ended two years after appearing on this show in 1958.
Pier Angeli is a celebrity in her own right and was before they got married but, yet, Vic Damone writes “Mr.&Mrs.” on the board. I also didn’t think he was going to let her answer any questions. Controlling much, Mr. Damone?
They were married 1954-58.
💯 % She was barely allowed to speak. What a jerk.
Been watching WML in sequence, and, whaddya know, I tuned into this episode exactly 68 years later after it was initially broadcast, to the day: June 17, 2024. I was negative 8 years old on June 17, 1956 and my mother would turn 30 in a few weeks, on July 3, 1956.
Pier is beautiful
Robert Q. AND Paul on the same panel! two of my favorite "fourth panelists." thank you so much for uploading all of these!
Just now found out that Dorothy was a redhead, that explains why she's so doggone pretty, redheads are my favorite anyway. First time ever seeing Pier Angeli, what a gorgeous lady
John Daly never asks the second challenger where she is from. It is apparently an oversight because there would be nothing about that information that would have given a clue to her occupation. Bennett Cerf usually called John on it when the challenger's location was omitted, but he wasn't there for this episode and no one else stepped to the plate.
There is a Jennie Reiter listed in the 1940 census as having been born in Russia in about 1903 and living on the Lower East Side of Manhattan with her husband and three sons, aged 20, 19 and 13.
Well that kills the singing bit. 😆 😂 😆
I don't know if most people realize that Arthur Murray had a show on tv for over 10 years - and it was on all four networks during its run - btw, it was funny that they brought up Marlon Brando, because Pier Angeli was supposed to star in a version of Romeo and Juliet (until a British-Italian production was announced the same year staring Laurence Harvey)
Paul Winchell is a natural. It’s as if he’s on every week.
Everyone on this panel is dead. They come alive while watching. These shows are the best because it was entertainment at its best which now is forever lost. Nowadays shows are filled with stupidity and vulgarity.
Maria, so true. I was eating supper on a tray and watching tv while doing so. A promo for Naked and Afraid(I think it was)came on and before I could reach for remote to skip thru it a female appeared and was talking about sticking her finger up a man's rectum.
Paul Winchell- I'd know him by just a silhouette. I never knew he( and Jerry) were panelists! Thank you for the post. Dorothy knew Vic Damone and Miss Angeli right away, but milked it ( as she often did) to afford the MGs more screen time.
Arthur Murray was only 61 here. My how times change!
"got broads in it"
You go Arlene
"Miss Francis!" Lol
Pier Angeli was so pretty! To me, she bears a small resemblance to Liv Tyler.
pier angeli and vic damone
Kelly02895 She does!!♥️
Pier is much prettier than liv tyler
No blue eyes like Liv however...!
@@manolosantiago4932: Yes, we know his name.
I can see sadness in her eyes
she never got over James dean
@@vinny4411 it was just one year after he'd died...
Fake smile
How could she get over someone that was literally robbed of her?
Pier seems like her husband intimidates her. She cannot speak as freely as she wants. She looks so beautiful.
He was abusive. She got away from him after three awful years of marriage.
well i don't think so because i read in a website "vintage paparazzi" whish he talked about the real reason why they divorced and is was his mother-in-law who controlled her daughter and keep telling how a bad husband he was and that's why she didn't wanna be with him anymore even after the birth of their son Perry. Ithink he was so much in love with her and she was too because in the same website she confesses how much she loved Vic so much .I think it's the truth because she could marry James Dean but her mother refused cause he wasn't Catholic and i think in gerenal after all i said that her mother who killed her inside and vic was a victim of Pier's unforgettable love to Dean even Vic and Pier met before she knows Dean and asked her out so many times and it was good between them but unfornately after joining the army Pier mets James? I wished that Vic was the true love of Pier and not James and that is just an opinion.
I like Winchell and Robert Q Lewis. They both play well.
Vic Damone was so affectionate; it's a shame they divorce two years later.
Pier Angeli's twin sister Marisa Pavan is still living at the age of 87
Wes this is awesome news about Pier's sister. I've been told I resemble Angeli. A very nice compliment for me! And Olivia DeHavilland just turned 104.
@@stephaniestanley8041 pier angeli is and was my first crush growing up.
Didn't they have Marisa Pavan on as the mystery guest soon after? That's cool I didn't know they were twins!
Both guest panelist, are very good & articulate.
Arthur Murray's daughter Jane is married to dr Henry Heimlich, inventor of the Hemlich maneuver. :)
Same world of fame, isn't it?
I was in contact with their son Perry Damone and I asked him if he was James Dean's kid. Of couse he said no and in fact looked like Vic Damone.
I was married to Perry for 24 years...we had many inquiries over the years about him being Jame's Deans son. But no.... he was Vic's son. Such a sad story about Pier's life. Perry loved both of his parents very much. Perry sadly passed away after a valiant fight with a rare cancer in 2014. May they all rest in peace always. Love to all of them.
@@nancydamone8995 When I was in touch with Perry He was working at the radio station. I was living in Los Angeles then and I did go to the church were Pier and Vic had married. I was trying to figure out across the street the location James Dean was on his motorcycle. In case you didn't know the rumor was at Piers wedding James Dean was across the street outside on his motorcycle and gunned the engine when they came out.
pier angeli just broke up here last name and made it her first and last name. her full name is anna marie pierangeli.
Thanks! Actually, I was wondering about her name.:))
MGM did that. She didn't like the name at first. Said it was a boys name.
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Arlene always wanted a free performance from entertainers!
Ms. Angeli is wonderful in "Somebody Up There Likes Me," the film mentioned during her appearance with husband Vic Damone.
Pretty Lady
I learned dancing from Arthur Murray.
But it was more fun with a girl.
Many thanks again! "Mr. Line?" Don't think I'm spamming you've earned every "Thanks!" we give you.
You've just been blocked from this channel for spamming.
You're welcome, of course. :)
gcjerryusc I've retired to a villa in France. ;) There are ad revenues, yes, but honestly, it's a pittance when you consider (a) Everything on UA-cam is geared towards the really huge channels. Not even a solidly, consistently highly viewed channel like this means anything to YT. I'm beyond small potatoes. You need to have hundreds of thousands of views a day to really earn substantial money on UA-cam. (b) If you divided what the ad revenues have brought in by the number of hours I've put into to this, I earn less than Chinese children assembling iPhones. (c) It's the funds from ad revenues that enable me to do things like lay out $500 of my own personal money to acquire the "lost" episode of WML from 10/1/50 earlier this year, not to mention having the equipment and software I need.
This was a labor of love, not an attempt to earn money. I honestly only ever enabled the ads because I felt that UA-cam would recommend the videos a lot more if they were directly earning money on them (they get 45% of any ad revenue). And this did, in fact, turn out to be the case. Within a month of enabling ads, three years ago, the channel viewership literally doubled.
I always encourage people to use AdBlock if the ads annoy them, and all ads can be skipped in 5 seconds even without AdBlock (some channel owners set it up so that ads can't be skipped, which earns them more money at the expense of forcing viewers to sit through ads that can be several minutes long). Otherwise I wouldn't have them on here at all. Just a clarification, not that I want to give the impression that I have any problem with the question.
And thanks for the kind words!
gcjerryusc I agree with you wholeheartedly! And again, thanks for the kind words (and support).
What’s My Line guest panelist Gore Vidal said many years after the CBS show’s cancellation that the television commercial is the only art form that was invented and perfected in the United States. UA-cam ads are more like TV commercials than any other art form. You can call UA-cam a slice of Americana.
What's My Line? Your statement was two years ago so you probably will not see this, but I want to add my thanks to you for this labor of love. I have quickly learned to adore this show and watc episodes every night. I hope you are well. You did an amazing job!
I luved Paul Winchell and Gerry---- and YES.. MR. Damone should have let Pier sign in first.... then himself... ???
reealitychick - Yeah. Why the heck didn't he let her talk? What another jerk.
@@shirleyrombough8173 and RealityChick: I read in a previous post here that Pier hardly spoke English and at times, required an interpreter to be present.
"Bees won't bite you if there feeling good", the last panelist said. I will gladly just take his word on that.
Bees won't ever bite you, they sting.
It is both annoying and suspenseful waiting for arthur m’s answers.
At the time of this taping James Dean was the most popular actor in the US. He was also dead.
Vic allegedly beat Pier. This show must've been before all that happened because they look so comfortable with each other.
Ginger Astaire To me, they don't look very comfortable. If you watch their body-language, you'll see that he's totally dominating her, he even gives her instructions about what to answer The Panel.
True, he's dominating but they're both smiling and giggling. The only sign of tension I saw was when he interrupted her at the end. Still, she should've stay with James Dean.
Ginger Astaire It wouldn't have helped her very much, since J. Dean would die from her anyway. I agree about that those two would have been a much happier couple, though. Too pitty her mother was so ambitious/dominating, and as I see it, without good judgement concerning men. Watch Damone and Angeli again, and see the frightened girl, grateful for every sign of good mood and smile from her husband. Makes me sick, because I've seen couples like that before.
Makes me sick too but I think it was more accepted back then. Husbands beat their wives (or vice versa), parents spanked their children.
***** Agreed!
All I ever heard about Arthur Murray as a child was how aggressive the Arthur Murray Dance Studios were. Signing up lonely old ladies for lifetime memberships, and that sort of thing.
Arthur Murray was a lovely man, very obliging. And they respected him enough to let him meet the panel and not shuffle him off stage quickly.
Very clever Robert Q. Lewis’s mask with glasses!
I was in contact with their son Perry Damone and I asked him blankly are you James Dean's son? Of course he said no and he looked almost the splitting image of Vic. Some James Dean books say Pier secretly saw Dean after her marriage to Vic.
So interesting thanks Billy
ye, they kept writing with each other
Arthur Murray lived to be 95, almost 96.
Vic Damone lived to be 89. Pier Angeli died very young, at 39 years old apparently. Her twin sister was Marisa Pavan.
Arthur Murray is a very sloooow person.
He looked bewildered and befuddled. He took forever to answer some of the simplest questions and it didn't seem to be a matter of him not hearing the question.
Yes, very strange, so slow to speak! He did look quite elderly, maybe had trouble concentrating.
Lois Simmons - It’s a real mystery as to why he was so slow in answering! And you could see that the panel were getting quite annoyed by it. Surprisingly John Daley was not assisting him in answering, as he usually does when a question might be somewhat ambiguous. To be honest, Murray’s slowness was bugging me as well!
I thought that Jerry's beginning intro line for Dorothy was hilarious....."On my left, is a phoney ven-trick-olist" (Referring to Paul Winchell)I can't believe the audience missed that......or maybe it wasn't funny to them.
+Purple Capricorn haha ven-trick-olist????
I laughed!
That was funny.
Gary, I totally forgot about the fact that Pier Angeli (Marisa Pavan's twin sister) was a mystery guest, when I talked about Jean-Pierre Aumont's acting family. So sorry about this.
Very sad and tragic what happened to Pier. She killed herself in 1971 at only 39. Reportedly because she never got over the death of James Dean. In 1956, only a year had passed since he was killed in a car accident.
***** I believe that it was ruled an accidental overdose, not suicide. But I always have a hard time with accidental overdoses as a ruling in general
actually 8 months
Vic Damone is 89 years old (Born June 12, 1928)
Joe Postove He just passed away.
Pier died at 39 years old in 1971
Damone got off on the wrong foot by signing in as "Mr. & Mrs. Vic Damone" as if Pier Angeli had no significance without him (the first [only?] time, that a husband & wife who were both famous were signed in this chauvinistically), and he gave her little opportunity to express herself. Arrogant jerk!
Thank you Dorothy for excluding him in the guess!
Right on, wchumphries. I thought the same thing. I bet he was a bit of a control freak. Her beautiful doe eyes look so sad to me.
*Rolls eyes
That was common back then. As a genealogist, one of the most annoying things is the way people used to only list husband's names (Mr. and Mrs. husband's name & surname) in things like obituaries until around the late 1960's or early 70's.
get over yourself
@@MrAdrenaline1982 Even on Cemetery property contract too. Thus, it is so difficult to find out the if the wives who are the owner were actually buried there. Just my two-cent.
My mom was born in raised in Youngstown, Ohio in Mahoning County. Although Hubbard is barely into the neighboring county of Trumbull, just north of Mahoning County, they are in the same Metropolitan Statistical Area. My god parents (Mom's brother and his wife) lived in Hubbard for a number of years, including when I was born. When I was about 7 months old (a few years before this episode) my first visit to the State of Ohio was to Hubbard.
I grew up about 10 miles from Youngstown and had an aunt who lived in Hubbard. My aunt's husband was a musician who played at the big nightclub in Youngstown, the Mural Room. Although he was blind, he played the piano and organ simultaneously. He also had a sideline as a piano tuner.
In those years, that was a wonderful area to grow up in. Fueled by the steel industry, prosperity reigned for almost everyone. Crime was practically nonexistent. As kids, we were able to roam freely, play ball in any empty field, explore the nearby woods, and a thousand other things that kids can't readily do now. As Archie and Edith used to sing, "those were the days".
I wrote the other comment before watching the show. Imagine my surprise when the contestant signed in and he had the same last name as my uncle! There is a very good chance that they were related -- there can't be all that many Baumgardner families in Hubbard. Based on their respective ages, the contestant could have been my uncle's father or uncle.
Pier Angeli committed suicide at the age of 39. Her full name is Anna Maria Pierangeli. Her twin sister is Marisa Pavan and still alive.
I loved the film "Somebody Up There Likes Me" that starred Paul Newman as Rocky Graziano and Pier Angeli as his wife. From that point on, I've always considered Newman to be one of the handsomest men that I had ever seen.
Twenty years later, there was another boxing movie, the first sports movie to win an academy award. That movie also featured a woman who would eventually marry the boxer who was the title role in the movie, although the marriage didn't occur until a sequel. I see a fairly close resemblance between Miss Angeli and Talia Shire, who played Adrian Pennino Balboa in the Rocky franchise of movies.
Rocky Graziano's birth name was Thomas Rocco Barbella. "Rocky Barbella" is very similar to "Rocky Balboa". Rocky Balboa's character, however, was based on heavyweight fighter Chuck Wepner.
Stallone borrowed a lot from SUTLM in his Rocky movies.
Lois Simmons;I've seen that movie too and loved it!
There is ZERO resemblance between Shire and Angeli. Angeli was beautiful.
Was this a bow-tie special? Both men panelists and John wore BT's as well as the last challenger! BRING BACK THE BOW-TIE!
I enjoyed Paul Winchell as a panelist. Its strange though, he appears often, then all of the sudden he quits appearing, never to appear again.
There’s Dorothy again dragging out screen time knowing full well that it’s beer that even Arlene kind of poked at her
Dorothy was, by all measurements, the most brilliant of all the panelists. The show was never as good after her death.
@@harrietbredehoft6578 Brilliance is hard to measure and Cerf was no slouch. I think the better way to put it is that Dorothy played the game the best of the panelists.
Remember that it is, after all, a "game"!
I think she did that more out of fear of being wrong. Not hogging air time.
Disgusting how controlling Vic Damone is. Skipping over this whole part.
Yes, Damone was a "controller." And from other reports, also abusive. Such a shame, those qualities in an elegant- looking man with a gorgeous singing voice.
S. B. - I don't blame you- I feel the same way.
I think he was being tender and protective. I think he loved her so much.
That level of controlling IS abuse, althgouh I gather from a comment here he was violent in other ways. I felt so sorry for her, she was biting her lip and trying to speak but he cut her off. Dreadful person.
@@stephaniestanley8041 Watch how he controls the physical contact and when she can speak- the whole interaction. Look at his actual behaviors and her face. Thinking controlling is protective will lead you down some dark paths- be careful.
I re-watched the MG segment after reading all the negative comments about Vic. I didn't see any of the drama between them. Aside from the sign in, he seemed fine to me.
Rest in Peace, Vic... one of the all time greats.
Yeah..a wife beater.
The excess power given to celebrities for their wonderful talents is unfortunately often merged with cruel behaviour.
Together.
21:14 was so cute
Arthur Murray, not the Brightest Bulb on the tree...
The beer importer lady has a similar voice to Thelma Ritter.
Arthur Murray looking so worn out here he doesn't seem to know how he's distinguished himself, what he's known for.
Dorothy looks pretty here.
She was a dainty little doll..with the voice of an angel......mr damone.was VERY clever the way he eliminated her identity.....that "kiss"was to show possessiveness....she UNDERSTOOD perfectly...she didnt need his PROMPTING( tom cruise used to do that to Kidman...whispering a nd coaching in her ear)......Dean .&Pier.were sadly..star crossed lovers-Romeo&Juliet...not to be......damone had a very bad rep re:women..........GOODNIGHT SWEET PIER
Vic Damone is still with us.
not anymore he passed away today
It’s too bad her over bearing husband wouldn’t let her speak and had to tell her in her ear what to say when she did. So glad women have come such a long way.
all the people here blame Vic and supported Pier but in a website i read their whole story detailed: how they met and how they get married and why they get divorced ? and the victim in the end was them both. Vic loved her more than anything and give her everything she wanted but her evil mother destroyed everything.
I don't think Pier looked very happy, and it wasn't that long after she split with my Jimmy Dean - what a fool, I'd have never left you Jimmy. Of course, Jimmy was meant to be in Somebody Up There Likes Me too.
I’m surprised Arthur Murray was not a mystery guest.
My long-deceased sister went to high school at the same time as Vito Farinola.. (Vic Damone_) I went to the same high school (Lafayette).)but only with Sandy Koufax. neither of us ever met those people.
It looks like Paul is sitting on a lower seat...to accommodate the dummy?
Bees don't "bite" :))) As I'm not a native English / American speaker, what's the difference between "on my left" and "to my left" ? And is "at my left" also possible ?
Interesting you should raise this because when he was a regular panelist, Fred Allen insisted on one or the other and would correct Arlene when she did not use his preferred phraseology. My understanding is that any of these propositions would be acceptable and have the same meaning.
prepositions, typo, sorry
Have you never seen "To Have and Have Not"? :D
Pier Angeli, a talented and beautiful actress was not happy in her personal life. The marriage to Vic Damone was not a free decision for her. She never forgot James Dean.
My long-deceased sister went to high school with Vito Farinola (Vic Damone) and I went to the same school (Lafayette in Brooklyn.) 5 years later with Sandy Koufax. (I never met Sandy and I don't think my sister ever met Vito.)
+Edward Gold
Many major league ballplayers and other famous people came out of Lafayette HS, although sadly, at least for a time, they didn't even have enough people come out for baseball and had to drop the team. But is HS, Sandy Koufax's best sport was basketball by far. He scrimmaged once against the NY Knicks (a good team at that time) and their best player, Harry Gallatin predicted that Sandy would play in the NBA someday.
Around the time you attended Lafayette, the Aspromonte brothers (Ken and Bob) were attending there, as well as Larry King and Fred Wilpon. Did you know any of them?
Bet they all didnt expect to be watched 60+ years latter :) Ah an Other that doesnt seem sure what he does....
Very clever to have Jerry the dummy talk! It would have been better to have Jerry ask some questions.
Pier Angeli was a good and gorgeus italian actress, I think Vic wanted to help her, answering first because of the language. I am italian and I can say it's quite difficult to understand every words and the panelists speak very quickly... Instead for the signature (Mr & Mrs Vic Damone) he wasn't too nice to her...
Martina Cresta Vic was just so proud to be married to Pier. That's why he married her. Because he loved her so very much, who wouldn't?
@@MexAm120902 Yes I know, but rarely when they were both equally famous: Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, Eddie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds, Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz and so on...
I didn’t know that Dorothy(Irish) was a red-head!
I had no idea Paul Winchell (Gargamel, Tigger) Had a dummy. Where was Bennett?
Pier A first many wives for Vic D Their boy Perry with Pier now rip
Both Pier and Dorothy died of drugs
Yes, but it's now become clear that Dorothy was murdered.
Pier was a nice harmless person who made a living reciting dialogue that had been written by other people.
Had more career counseling for women existed in Los Angeles during the 1950s, she could have found a second niche in the studio system, maybe one that involved graphic design or voiceover work. Then her entire life would not have revolved around James Dean.
So sad that both ladies died from drug overdose, as did Marilyn M. But I believe, as do many others, that Kilgallen and Monroe were definitely assisted in that overdose. What exactly is it about "showbiz" that so often leaves misery behind?
@@barrykendrick3146 No. The Manhattan DA very recently reopened the case in late of later published reports and declined to prosecute. Case closed.
+@@preppysocks209 Hardly a surprise: who would they prosecute?
There were a number of reasons to find her death suspicious. Consider, for example, the presence of Tuinal in her blood: a drug for which she did not have a prescription & known for its fatal nature in combinations with other barbiturates & alcohol.
They never guessed Vic Damone, but yet John gave it to them
They said Pier Angeli. Eveyone knew whom she was married to.
Dorothy knew Vic Damone at once- she was one of his champions.
She never loved her husband.
James Dean's true love