[GUIDE] IMMUNITIES - HOW THEY WORK IN DIABLO 2 RESURRECTED

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  • @MrRigor09
    @MrRigor09 3 роки тому +740

    Can you please make a video going over Crushing Blow, Open Wounds, Deadly Strike, piercing attack, etc.?! We love your content Llama. Keep it up.

    • @oldsloppy69
      @oldsloppy69 3 роки тому +46

      Crushing Blow = Enemy Current HP % Dmg
      Deadly Strike = Chance to deal bonus damage like a crit
      Open Wounds = Bleed Damage DoT
      Piercing Attack = Ranged Attacks piece through monsters hitting multiples

    • @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
      @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 3 роки тому +12

      CB = works only with meele/ranged weapon attack, takes away 1/4 current HP, 1/8 on uniques and bosses (meele), ranged is 1/8 and 1/16, it's affected by positive physical res but not by negative one, doesn't scale with more /players so it goes weaker UNLIKE TOTALLY OP STATIC FIELD
      DS = same as CB, works only with melee/ranged weapon attack, doubles the damage, doubles only physical part of damage (works with skills that convert physical damage like Berserk or Fire Arrow), if you also have critical strike it doesn't stack, it's checked separately, if one check is succesful, the other is ignored, you can't get 4x damage with it

    • @oldsloppy69
      @oldsloppy69 3 роки тому +1

      @@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 thanks Im at work didn't have time to go into detail

    • @addicted2rpgs
      @addicted2rpgs 3 роки тому +1

      I'd love to know all ways to get crushing blow as a Necro main.

    • @oldsloppy69
      @oldsloppy69 3 роки тому

      @@addicted2rpgs items, that's it.

  • @levinium
    @levinium 3 роки тому +170

    MrLlama: *Casually drops Infinity on the ground*
    Me: *Sweats*

    • @aboutblank2270
      @aboutblank2270 3 роки тому +7

      it was in singleplayer so not really a big deal

    • @Workinprogressmaxi
      @Workinprogressmaxi 3 роки тому

      @@aboutblank2270 the game has been crashing, does the SP still allow the part to be on the ground?

    • @blitzzace
      @blitzzace 3 роки тому +8

      @@xfg007 woah, this guy has an anecdote. it must never happen, then!

    • @inspiringminds7284
      @inspiringminds7284 3 роки тому +1

      @@xfg007 It does crash.

    • @robosergTV
      @robosergTV 3 роки тому

      @@inspiringminds7284 for shitty bugged PCs maybe. I never had crashes with D2R

  • @ap4thy1
    @ap4thy1 3 роки тому +47

    Based on the fact that hell cold resistances are higher than fire and lightning, it makes so much more sense to have cold mastery affect those immunities. It's like they intended to balance the higher cold resists around the cold mastery as a reward for players speccing deep into the cold tree. I think it was bugged before, and now it's not. It creates a choice between dual spec or just going deeper into cold.

    • @sleek462
      @sleek462 3 роки тому

      So with this fix should I be maxing out the cold mastery skill or get it close to max and let +to skills on gear carry me to max cold mastery? Thanks in advance

    • @darksorra
      @darksorra 3 роки тому

      @@sleek462 well i have not seen an end to Cold Mastery my sorc is at 155% so at 1/5 it is 26% off

    • @dandini0698
      @dandini0698 3 роки тому

      Also cold sorc is not getting 350-450 increased multiplicative damage either.

    • @dandini0698
      @dandini0698 3 роки тому

      @@sleek462 get max i'd say, im leveling up a cold sorc, in nightmare i have lvl16'ish and i cant break most cold immune monsters, only with lower resist + cold mastery and damage is shit.

    • @ben1805
      @ben1805 3 роки тому +5

      It just doesn’t make sense to make mobs completely immune to certain classes of spells. Resistant, sure that’s fine, at least you have a hope of killing them and it just takes longer. But really it’s just bad game design to make mobs completely immune to abilities since respecting your character is a huge chore and not easy to do on a whim.

  • @Katie-hb8iq
    @Katie-hb8iq 3 роки тому +173

    I consider Cold Mastery a bug fix as opposed to a glitch. I don't know why it should be the exception. Consistency of the rules is important. The tooltip on Cold Mastery never said "Cannot break immunities". It reads exactly like other auras and curses do. By not breaking immunities, the cold mastery skill is strictly worse than fire or lightning mastery.

    • @andreidikranvasilescu6182
      @andreidikranvasilescu6182 3 роки тому +35

      Right, sounds like maybe that's why cold resistances are so much higher, anticipating cold mastery?

    • @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
      @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 3 роки тому +4

      Masteries have nothing to do with immunities. CM was just an alternative way to compensate for lower damage of cold skills by giving you an ability to reduce enemy res to -100 => doing double damage. While fire and light mastery just give +%damage.

    • @askmedov
      @askmedov 3 роки тому +7

      I hope they decrease some monsters’ cold overres so that cold mastery can break immunities through all hell acts, except for cold enchants

    • @Katie-hb8iq
      @Katie-hb8iq 3 роки тому +27

      @@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Then conviction has nothing to do with immunities either. There is no tooltip that says "breaks immunities" or "does not break immunities". The rules need to be consistent.
      The reason I said cold mastery is strictly worse if it doesn't break immunities is lightning and fire mastery will deal a lot more than just double damage. I mean, you don't even need +skills gear and lightning mastery adds 278% and fire mastery adds 163%. Clearly if cold does not break immunities, you're getting a bad deal for your skill points, especially since +skills on gear widens the gulf between cold and the others even further. Capping this at double damage is nothing.

    • @AdhinJT
      @AdhinJT 3 роки тому +4

      Ehh I think that's a tricky one. If you allow the mastery to break immunities then it doesn't put it on par with Fire/Lightning Masteries, it makes it the only passive that can break immunities. Not only will it break those immunities but with enough +skill it'll do so better then Lower Resist + Conviction combo. Which requires 25 in Conviction (so a player maxing it with some +skills or half investment with a lot of +Skills) and a hilariously 60 in Lower Resist to hit that 'max of 70'. Not even sure why they count that, at 40 it's 67 which I mean... close enough.
      Anyway my only point is Fire Mastery and Lightning Mastery don't let you break immunities, and if you could with cold it would literally just be the winning side. If they where to do anything In my opinion it would be to just unfuck cold immunities on monsters. There's literally no reason to have one set to 140, and 150 and 210 because anything past 140 is basically impossible to break anyway.
      Shit if it was up to me the whole 'all monster have immunities' would be out immediately. It's feels like a design choice around being able to diversify your damage output and 1.10 synergy directly contradict that entire idea. Which is ultimately what I would of done back in the day with my current druid. Just get into some random game and kill all the non-fire immune stuff while others handle the fire immune (so almost nothing when trying to get Radament). To bad MP on consoles is fucked atm.

  • @zcorder2277
    @zcorder2277 3 роки тому +7

    Seriously, thank you so much for your unbelievable work ethic. I haven't been this addicted to d2 since it first came out, and I forgot pretty much everything, so these videos have been a colossal help!

  • @Pavideus
    @Pavideus 3 роки тому +111

    Perhaps there are so many monsters with very high cold resist because Cold Mastery is SUPPOSED to help towards breaking the immunity. Maybe it just wasn't working as intended before and they fixed it so Cold Sorceresses (the only real cold class) aren't as gimped. That would explain why Cold Mastery lowers resist rather than increasing damage like Lightning Mastery and Fire Mastery.

    • @mantism.d.8363
      @mantism.d.8363 3 роки тому +3

      Frost Maiden?

    • @hangmingzhang5067
      @hangmingzhang5067 3 роки тому +8

      @@mantism.d.8363 unlike cold sorc, amazon does not have a whole skill tree dedicated to cold damage.

    • @mantism.d.8363
      @mantism.d.8363 3 роки тому +5

      @@hangmingzhang5067 Yea, but the Frost Bowzon primarily does cold damage none the less. I'd say that qualifies it as a "cold class".

    • @hangmingzhang5067
      @hangmingzhang5067 3 роки тому +2

      @@mantism.d.8363 I don't see why thy cant pick up explosive arrow. with max synergy frozen arrow is still only 60 points, while blizz is 70-80 points with mastery.
      frostmaiden builds either has explosive arrow or valk, either one would make it so cold immunes can be dealt with, unlike cold sorc.

    • @mantism.d.8363
      @mantism.d.8363 3 роки тому +1

      @@hangmingzhang5067 I mean I'm sure they can. But the same goes for Blizz Sorc. Once you achieve high enough level, most or all of your extra points can be dumped into a fire skill. Just getting to that point kinda sucks. But it's not uncommon to see an endgame Blizz Sorc with at least one fire skill maxed and a point in Fire Mastery as well.

  • @veri745
    @veri745 3 роки тому +62

    It almost looks like cold resistances in Hell were balanced around Cold Mastery working to break resistences, when you compare it to the Fire and Light immune monsters.

    • @Metadaxe
      @Metadaxe 3 роки тому +1

      I think it was balanced around Cold Mastery being able to dumpstertruck an enemy's resistance once its immunity is broken. Ordinarily if you break an immune monster, it still has like 90%+ resistance to the element it was immune to. Lowering that to a point where the monster takes a reasonable amount of damage requires gear like Griffon's, Facets, Crescent Moon, etc. which A) limits how much you can stack, and B) comes with all the caveats of gearing (opportunity cost of equipment slots, scarcity, etc.). Meanwhile if you break a monster's cold immunity, and it still has 99% cold resistance, CM will just immediately drop that into negative numbers.

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 3 роки тому +1

      Nope, cold sorc is already the most powerful sorc simply because it can reduce monsters resistance to negative, dealing way more damage than light or fire sorc. Being able to break immunities simply means cold sorc can now kill many cold immune monsters while light and fire sorc continues to struggle with their respective immunes.

    • @djryat4591
      @djryat4591 3 роки тому

      @@Metadaxe does the cold mastery scale the same way as conviction, like it says -200% but in actuality its 1/5 or -40%?

    • @Metadaxe
      @Metadaxe 3 роки тому

      @@djryat4591 The way it works (or at least worked in D2 legacy), is that it does nothing if a monster is immune, but works at full power once a monster's immunity is broken (say, by conviction or lower resist). So if Cold Mastery says -200% and the monster is 100% resistant, CM has no effect. If the monster is 99% resistant, then it loses 200% resistance, resulting in it having -100% total cold res.
      The following is all speculation. AFAIK, nobody has figured out yet the exact way that CM or other resist pierces changed in D2R.
      In D2R, CM *seems* to just work the same way that conviction/lower res do. It's 1/5th as effective against monsters that are immune, *even if* their immunity is broken by the other. E.G. if conviction breaks a monster's immunity, and you cast lower res on it, lower res is still operating at 1/5th effectiveness.
      IF this is how CM is working, AND IF all resistance piercing effects work the same way, as MrLlama speculated in the video, this should be noticeable to D2R players. Geared lightning builds would be noticeably weaker, because stuff like facets, griffin's, etc. would only be working at 1/5th their effectiveness against broken immunities, whereas in D2L they worked at 100% effectiveness.

    • @djryat4591
      @djryat4591 3 роки тому

      @@Metadaxe This is above and beyond what I expected, thanks for the explanation.

  • @RichterBelmont2235
    @RichterBelmont2235 3 роки тому +15

    You telling me to... just run away? Instead of die trying to clean the whole map? My kid self would never understand this.

  • @Kirathian1234
    @Kirathian1234 3 роки тому +50

    I kinda want the devs to poll the community on whether they fix that cold res bug. I feel like a lot of people sort of like it even if it's not the same as the original game. And looking at this video makes it clear that all it would really do is make is slightly easier to kill some extra mobs during a playthrough. Unless I'm missing something insanely broken about it?

    • @Spectre.Fishing
      @Spectre.Fishing 3 роки тому +18

      Its barely enough to break it with the skill alone. You still barely do any damage. I say leave it

    • @cgerman
      @cgerman 3 роки тому +2

      It will make the game a lot easier

    • @Kyrazlan
      @Kyrazlan 3 роки тому +8

      It still only works at 1/5 strength so it's really not OP at all.

    • @Kirathian1234
      @Kirathian1234 3 роки тому +1

      But yeah, if they fix it I'm totally fine with it, or if they leave it in that's cool too. Thinking about it, they probably shouldn't poll people on such a small thing anyways (unless it's included in a larger questionnaire about the game going forward).

    • @Setixir
      @Setixir 3 роки тому +8

      @@cgerman How so? Sorcs always just bomb teleport past things they can't kill anyway and CM basically breaks nothing on its own. When it does break you're hitting for like 5 percent damage. It's only really strong when you throw lower res/infinity on top of that but it you have infinity just run a lightning sorc and blow everything up anyway.

  • @ahnorn
    @ahnorn 3 роки тому +38

    The Cold Mastery "Bug" was introduced in 1.07 and before then it worked like it does now. It is totally fair to have this get fixed as it doesn't break anything at all since the game isn't very well balanced to begin with among the classes. If many people find this unbalanced, then complain about Hammerdins having too many strengths by being "weak" to only 3 or so monsters in the entire game.
    I think the problem here is a lot of people are so used to something that it became the norm and when it was fixed to resolve an issue they raise a storm because it wasn't "normal" to them. Enjoy the fix and how it allows more fun by being able to pew pew more in this game.

    • @cacophonic7
      @cacophonic7 3 роки тому +3

      Looking at the tables in the video where fire and lightning have the possibility to break immunities on so many more monsters than cold does thanks to monsters having naturally high cold resists, I question whether or not the cold mastery change was intended.

    • @ThirdEyeThriving
      @ThirdEyeThriving 3 роки тому

      So should I max cold mastery or shoot for 17 to get the -105%?

    • @Tyrian3k
      @Tyrian3k 3 роки тому

      @@ThirdEyeThriving Especially with it breaking immunities, you should try to max it out. Remember that enemies can have negative resistances as well, so it's not wrong to want to bring an enemy from e.g. +90% cold resistance to -100% resistance.

    • @robosergTV
      @robosergTV 3 роки тому

      @@ThirdEyeThriving lmao its already fixed, you are too late

  • @josephpement9285
    @josephpement9285 3 роки тому +3

    It feels like every time I fire up the game, I have to watch 3 of your videos to figure out what I'm even doing! Thanks for the great content!

  • @anthonyg6083
    @anthonyg6083 3 роки тому

    Great guide on immunities, but love the person in chat @ 17:17 talking about Maggot Lair xD

  • @LokiTheAnsuz
    @LokiTheAnsuz 3 роки тому +99

    Funny how many "pros" say the Cold Mastery is a bug and should be fixed because it makes the cold sorc be able to kill more monsters and that's OP. While hammerdin can kill everything except 3, THREE monsters in the entire game... I'd say leave Cold Mastery as it is on D2R. It doesn't even allow you to break all cold immunes...

    • @leandervr
      @leandervr 3 роки тому +3

      @@diomedes7971 but another build that can kill most monsters makes that problem smaller, not bigger...

    • @szalaytamas3184
      @szalaytamas3184 3 роки тому +1

      @@diomedes7971 you have to play hamadin if you want to handle everything lol.

    • @szalaytamas3184
      @szalaytamas3184 3 роки тому +8

      Btw these pros can't argue why should not cold mastery break the immunity they just talk bs.
      Immunity just means 100or more percent resistance. And cold mastery just piercing resistance. So what's wrong it. Fml im mad now xd.

    • @CatZillaGuides
      @CatZillaGuides 3 роки тому +2

      @@szalaytamas3184 exactly i mean what is the heck ? why other immunity breakers is fine while cold mastery isn't ! i makes zero sense to me

    • @MikkelSejr
      @MikkelSejr 3 роки тому +5

      They are totally missing one important thing here. When they fixed the "bug" where trapsin would make elites spawn, then it was a good thing. But when they fix a "bug" that made a skill completely useless after 17 levels. Then it's a mistake? Like really. Do the honestly believe that it was intended to have a ability with a description which is misleading and useless to level above 17?

  • @Dragoon601
    @Dragoon601 3 роки тому +3

    I’m so glad that these are here. I was always game rushed by a family friend who had high level characters and I had crappy gear. Now I’m smarter, have better equipment, and know now what I’m doing and I’ve made it to Nightmare Act 3. This is the farthest I’ve gotten by myself 😅

  • @alexpettersson5635
    @alexpettersson5635 3 роки тому +28

    This just solified my view of that the Cold Mastery have been bugged until D2:R Fixed the bug. 16:28 Now do it in a single file lane in like Maggot lair with no teleport, or if ya have teleport handle the issue(instant death) of TP'ing into a Boss pack and before you add "Just don't go there" well here is some news. They are story bound and needs to be visited. Also side note I hate Flayer Dungeon(I am a sorc) =(.

    • @jareddurr4320
      @jareddurr4320 3 роки тому

      Why would you not have teleport on a sorc?

    • @alexpettersson5635
      @alexpettersson5635 3 роки тому +2

      @@jareddurr4320 No I mean if you are for example an Amazon(Amazons doesn't have Teleport) in those situations.
      And to respect those Players who didn't pick teleport as a Sorc Yes even in that case in an enclosed space with immunes to your only damage type in a story locked zone that needs to be completed(to progress). Even with teleport it is very hit or miss when you teleport if there is a pack you die.

    • @Masterplan79th
      @Masterplan79th 3 роки тому

      @@alexpettersson5635 indeed, my javazon is stuck. behind hell maggot lair because of the lightning immune packs, no way past them.

    • @endefisto123
      @endefisto123 Місяць тому

      @@Masterplan79th That part still gives me PTSD as a hammerdin. Normal and nightmare are doable, but in hell it just takes sooooo damn long plus it is extremely hard to manage to get the angle to hit mobs with. Although the hammerdin in general has no issues what so ever with immunities.

  • @Lathlaer
    @Lathlaer 2 роки тому +3

    A small correction: Spectral Hit adds to resistances ONLY if those resistances are below 75. Which means that if it rolls on an already Cold Immune monster, it doesn't add to the overhead.
    Same thing with Magic Resistant (though here it adds only if it's less than 100).

  • @heefie8659
    @heefie8659 3 роки тому +28

    I like that cold mastery breaks it. That's how the skill description reads. To me I think they fixed an original bug.

    • @mikkel9840
      @mikkel9840 3 роки тому +1

      Well sure, but gameplay-wise it's really a bug that does not need fixing. Cold sorc is too strong as it is already.

    • @christophluger793
      @christophluger793 3 роки тому

      @@mikkel9840 whut?

    • @Krezo200
      @Krezo200 3 роки тому

      @@mikkel9840 lol wat

    • @jordanharrison8769
      @jordanharrison8769 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikkel9840 lol what? Meanwhile my buddies light sorc gets infinity and does 30k damage on his left click? Lol but yeah my 5k blizzard on mobs that “sometimes” might do double damage if the mob has low cold res is the problem lmao

  • @Micxhxael
    @Micxhxael 3 роки тому +10

    I started a Vengeance Paladin to turn into a Dream Zealot down the road and it’s been satisfying to watch immunities disappear.

    • @goshu7009
      @goshu7009 3 роки тому +2

      Long trip for that Double Dream Runewords :P

    • @Micxhxael
      @Micxhxael 3 роки тому +1

      @@goshu7009 Very 😐

  • @dyeybson
    @dyeybson 3 роки тому +96

    Why any other source of - res can't break immunities in classic game? That's is a bug for me. In D2R u can break with any source, enabling many new Builds. This is a fix for me.

    • @vohbovohborian28
      @vohbovohborian28 3 роки тому +14

      It definitely is a massive improvement

    • @dyeybson
      @dyeybson 3 роки тому +7

      @@vohbovohborian28 that's what I'm thinking.

    • @vinno-4647
      @vinno-4647 3 роки тому +9

      Although I hate making the game easier. This is a fix in my eyes too. It just makes logical sense. Still hard to break the cold immune without 9*cold gc and infinity.

    • @dyeybson
      @dyeybson 3 роки тому +1

      @@vinno-4647 exactly, but the game already too easy, don't have much challenger's except for the Ubers.

    • @Morhua1
      @Morhua1 3 роки тому +4

      @@dyeybson Agree. To make the game a bit harder I play hardcore with no trading, try it if you haven't.

  • @heliastein1998
    @heliastein1998 3 роки тому +63

    I dont get why everyone wants cold mastery to be changed back, it's finally working as it should and it's far from being overpowered. It breaks imunity but you barely do any dmgs....

    • @Dinishte
      @Dinishte 3 роки тому +14

      Exactly. I don’t understand why anyone dislikes it working CORRECTLY finally. Why else would it be the ONLY one with -res while Fire/Light have flat +dmg?

    • @messermoreaux1139
      @messermoreaux1139 3 роки тому +1

      once you have an anni torch, gc's etc fully geared it'll be breaking immunities on the level of using an infinity merc. over time this does actually scale up quite a bit so i can see the issue

    • @Danne1040
      @Danne1040 3 роки тому +8

      @@messermoreaux1139 Bruh did you watch the video? Lama clearly said even -200 which is a very high level cold mastery wont break most cold immunes. You pretty much can only do random cold immune rares but almost no base cold immunes and even then you do 10% damage and should probably skip if you can.

    • @MrHaterplease
      @MrHaterplease 3 роки тому +1

      because fuk sorc

    • @Setixir
      @Setixir 3 роки тому +2

      @@messermoreaux1139 No... You'd need literally all three to break most immunities. You need LR/Infinity... AND A MAXED CM. With that sort of investment you should absolutely be able to break immunities. I mean have you played a light sorc with Infinity? I have. She blows the whole game up and doesn't care. That's only with infinity mind you. Don't even need to worry about LR 95 percent of the time.

  • @kathleendelcourt8136
    @kathleendelcourt8136 3 роки тому +18

    The fact that cold resistances are much higher in hell than the other resistances makes me think that the D2R Cold Mastery "bug" isn't that big of an issue, maybe it's even intentional. Cold Mastery doesn't lower resistances as much as Conviction anyway.

    • @kissenklauer7011
      @kissenklauer7011 3 роки тому

      it might not be as strong as conviction on it's own, but since you can stack it ontop of it, it seems very valuable the way it works now.

    • @Setixir
      @Setixir 3 роки тому

      @@kissenklauer7011 Well good, it was pretty whatever before that. At least it has a reason to be maxed out now.

    • @kissenklauer7011
      @kissenklauer7011 3 роки тому

      @@Setixir I mean valuable in terms of breaking immunities. for non-immune monsters it's just op :D
      especially when you take into consideration many (non-immune) monsters in hell have at least some resistance. I'm sure you know this, but on a monster with 60% cold res, a lvl 20 cold mastery alone more than tripples your damage.
      and it doesn't suffer from dr as badly as maxing synergies. but then again I have no idea what I'm talking about so maybe it's bs and cm sucks.

  • @minatraslodas6630
    @minatraslodas6630 3 роки тому +6

    I just got through the hell maggot lair on light trap assassin, and those immunes... I really needed this.

    • @shiko098
      @shiko098 3 роки тому +3

      Bro, wait till you get to Act 3. It felt like 100% of that act is lightning immune.

    • @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma
      @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 3 роки тому +1

      @@shiko098 Bro, I went with my lighting javazon in act1 to get to the Den of Evil, and I couldn't get there alive, the first time in hell. lmao Sure, I didn't even make a single runeword (I'm saving runes as my retirement plan in offline plugY, for some reason), and I didn't farm anything up to this point, and, my biggest mistake, I played in 'players 1' mode, so now I'm deeply underleveled. So, I started a new character, fire sorc - I wonder when I will hit a wall with her. Jeez, I love being an eternal noobie at some games.😂

    • @hanisrosli5484
      @hanisrosli5484 3 роки тому +1

      @@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma any tips for my upcomin pure fire hydra sorc build?😅

    • @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma
      @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 3 роки тому +1

      @@hanisrosli5484 🤣Umm, I got nothing. Zero tips. Just hang in there, hang in there! 😁

    • @hanisrosli5484
      @hanisrosli5484 3 роки тому +1

      @@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 🙌🙌🤣

  • @WandererFromYs
    @WandererFromYs 3 роки тому +6

    Just clicked the video. I can’t wait to see how Mrllama turns his “just run away from immunes” into a 17 minute video.

    • @MrLlamaSC
      @MrLlamaSC  3 роки тому +3

      By discussing how they break and work of course!

    • @monitorlizard9971
      @monitorlizard9971 3 роки тому

      lmao thats exactly what I was thimkimg. like all you have to say is get infinity. or skip them. he actually did explain very well on immunities though. some stuff I didnt ever consider.

  • @TheSynthisis
    @TheSynthisis 3 роки тому +4

    For cold mastery and other items breaking immunities I'm seeing that they actually were supposed to break immunities in the original game and a bug kept that from happening so the current way in D2R may actually be the new way forward (fingers crossed).

  • @kenpatelli8172
    @kenpatelli8172 3 роки тому +9

    i agree with you on 99% of things. i do believe though that the cold mastery was a bug that is fixed simply because of the high resistances. i believe that the higher resistances were implemented to offset for the cold mastery to make it still possible but a challenge to break immunities

  • @f0ul0u
    @f0ul0u 3 роки тому +7

    Having played this pre-expansion and played some of the expansion, I've always taught that this game is just simple and fun. Playing again with Resurrected and I am overwhelmed with how many things I can do and did not know back then. I just hope that they keep adding more QOL or even balances and bug fixes.

  • @Kyrazlan
    @Kyrazlan 3 роки тому +15

    MrLlamaSC bold of you to assume the cold mastery breaking immunities is not intended. The skill increases well past a viable point if that's the case..... I think was a bug fix for D2R that previously existed in the dilapidated d2 that was pretty much abandoned after patch 1.09

  • @johnathanflannagan2407
    @johnathanflannagan2407 3 роки тому +7

    Can't believe he actually went and took the video request, this is exactly what I asked for! Blizz Sorc on Hell has been... basically an assassin, the only enemies I can confidently and easily kill ARE the bosses haha.

  • @RemnantofValour
    @RemnantofValour Рік тому

    Another amazing explanation that communicates a deeper understanding than reading around this topic intermittently over the past 20 years

  • @Leongon
    @Leongon 2 роки тому +1

    I got stuck on Hell Maggot Lair on my Fury Druid just now, as he is almost pure physical damage I can't get past the insect swarms that are physical immune in the tunnels that only one character fits at a time. So yeah, just avoiding the enemies you can't fight isn't an option in that specific dungeon unless I do an extremely convoluted and annoying move like placing a portal down and have them follow me back to the entrance, go all the way to a teleporter, back to town and into my portal from the other end... For every single encounter.

  • @Vibrosis8703
    @Vibrosis8703 3 роки тому +4

    Would make more sense if cold mastery worked similarily to conviction that it caps out at 150% and can bring down immune monster resist with 1/5 rate. But again that would be a new feature.

  • @Histeriart
    @Histeriart 3 роки тому +6

    I think cold mastery is working what it should be atm and it should be stacked with curse and auras like other elements do.

  • @d1gitaldave
    @d1gitaldave 3 роки тому +1

    Your body of work is really paying off especially with D2R. Your videos have helped me immensely. Thanks!

  • @chrisgaber1929
    @chrisgaber1929 3 роки тому

    Thanks mr llama. I was 12 the first time I played d2, and I had zero idea how to play the game and was never able to clear hell. I feel like thanks mostly to you I am OMW to avenging the old me.

  • @shayneaugustine9791
    @shayneaugustine9791 3 роки тому +13

    Maybe this cold immune "bug" was how they intended.

  • @vOddy75
    @vOddy75 Рік тому +1

    I'm playing solo self foud hardcore as a dragon tail martial arts assassin, and I've been worrying about physical immune enemies in hell.
    Apparently I just need to find an item with amplify damage charges.

  • @vincentcolletti8252
    @vincentcolletti8252 3 роки тому +4

    Seeing those charts…. When it comes to cold and cold mastery as it stands. You could argue maybe this was intentional… since clearly lit/fire sorcs had a massive advantage pvm.

  • @SteveSavageProducts
    @SteveSavageProducts 3 роки тому +4

    Logically, it seems like Cold Mastery should go towards breaking immunities. It even seems like they made those cold res numbers as high as they were for that exact reason. Basically, some dev thought: "since cold mastery should contribute to breaking immunities, let's jack up the numbers on those immune mobs to balance it".

  • @4ksandknives
    @4ksandknives 3 роки тому

    Llama has one of the best smiles and personalities on here. A gentleman and a [diablo 2] scholar :)

  • @onxiaftw
    @onxiaftw 3 роки тому +1

    What do you do when you go in the cave in the oasis in act 2 and it is full with Beatles that are lightning immune? You can't skip them there ..

  • @rodolfokennis7793
    @rodolfokennis7793 3 роки тому

    Awesome. Video, very specific. In 20 years playing d2 I had an idea of how it worked but never down to a science

  • @steveisrome1719
    @steveisrome1719 3 роки тому +1

    Immunities is the sole reason I didn't enjoy this game for solo playthroughs on all difficulties. Building a character from scratch that is strong enough to deal with hell bosses but have enough damage in different schools was just not feasible. One of the main reasons grim dawn is so much more fun to me as a solo player

  • @komarac55555
    @komarac55555 3 роки тому +6

    Basically, monsters can equip CannotBeFrozen, too

  • @Apostasy_Plague
    @Apostasy_Plague 3 роки тому

    party play fire sorc here. you have the best intro I've ever seen.

  • @jimmietwotime
    @jimmietwotime 3 роки тому

    1:56 sounds like a Grindr notification going off in the background 😂😂

  • @Gemquist
    @Gemquist 3 роки тому +1

    Let's just take a moment to appreciate that this man just sold his currently equipped semi-precious armor to make a video for his viewers.

    • @iriswaldenburger2315
      @iriswaldenburger2315 3 роки тому

      Yeah.. single player offline... stuff you can import ... oooooh

  • @necrospaci4835
    @necrospaci4835 2 роки тому

    oml thank goodness you brought this up in a vieo I was under the impression that decrepify did hte same as amplify and so I never checked and just though hell difficulty was that spongy but now with amplify back in my arsenal it's shredding enemies

  • @n3rfdr4gon99
    @n3rfdr4gon99 Рік тому +1

    I feel like if a monster can HAVE immunity, a player should be able to BREAK all immunities, provided you have the means. I don't think there should be monsters that you can't kill when you CAN kill all bosses.

  • @Aaronpremo
    @Aaronpremo 3 роки тому +8

    You just answered why the lower cold is working on the Sorceress. Look at that table of cold immune it's ridiculous,so running a cold Sorc you are having a way more hard time and you have to hope you can find a group. I hope you and all the other pros don't get this so called "bug" fixed because most of us don't have the time to run a 100 Meph runs,or Pindles or have people gifting us stuff to have these high end characters.

    • @amethonys2798
      @amethonys2798 3 роки тому

      Oh noooo sorc can't kill cold resists? Good thing you can just teleport past them baseline.
      You literally cannot clear A2 Hell without shopping a tele staff as a lightning damage character because of the maggot lair.

  • @ThomasSWK
    @ThomasSWK 3 роки тому

    It makes a lot more sense that cold mastery also can break immunities, would also make it so conviction with a high level cold mastery would help you kill a lot of different cold immunes

  • @briangarcia7174
    @briangarcia7174 3 роки тому

    Great video man. I've really been racking my brain about these immunes in hell because my cold sorc is having a rough go but still holding her own. Thanks for the info, might just build me a javazon once I can get an infinity.

  • @softwaretools5140
    @softwaretools5140 3 роки тому

    Great guide. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Llama!

  • @dominiquesnauwaert1307
    @dominiquesnauwaert1307 3 роки тому

    The fact that cold immune monsters have SO high resist compared to fire and lightning is imho the proof that cold mastery was intended to break immunities in the beginning

  • @tilmanr.3299
    @tilmanr.3299 3 роки тому +7

    Okay, looking at these hell resistances, it makes sense that cold mastery can affect immunities. I think this should stay in the game.

  • @dhos83
    @dhos83 3 роки тому

    Love the deep dive on this topic. Thanks!

  • @Taydris0
    @Taydris0 3 роки тому

    The aliasing from your tee shirt is mesmerizing.

  • @janmarsch8299
    @janmarsch8299 3 роки тому

    First of all, this has been great video...i have learned all these informations ages ago but its still nice to see all of them stored together...and second and most importantly...i am very sad to see so many comments about cold mastery being done right, breaking cold immunities...as said by Mr.Llama, it was NEVER supposed to be able to do that...comments about hammerdins does not apply to this situation, so i do not understand, why anyone is bringing it in...do You know, what makes games much less replayable?If they become too easy...and thats, what happened even to this great game, either through synergies, OP runewords and other stupid choices...1.07 was a challenge - imagine teleporting autohealing council with three immunities, almost unkillable with some chars...and in Travincal, You HAVE to kill them...same for Baal, his attack in same patch was way too dangerous...but these challenges made this game so much more fun then it is now...and bringing something, what makes it even easier is not wise idea

  • @TheHrabik
    @TheHrabik 3 роки тому

    Thanks for another guide! Maybe would be good to also mention that even if you technically break the immunity, it can be just by a couple of percent so you'll still do very little damage

  • @cacophonic7
    @cacophonic7 3 роки тому +1

    What do you do if you are playing solo and a boss you HAVE to kill is immune to cold? I went up against hell Nithalak on my blizz sorc the other night and it seemed like the only damage I was doing was from my merc hitting him, which was taking forever. I didnt try finding a lower resist wand to use on him, but it makes me wonder if its possible for the game to be nigh unbeatable solo thanks to a boss being undamageable due to resists. Can that happen?

  • @qmoney1213
    @qmoney1213 3 роки тому

    You’re content is amazing man, thank you 🙏🏻

  • @TheInfinityMaster1
    @TheInfinityMaster1 3 роки тому +3

    I hope the *Cold Mastery* thing doesn't get changed. Been loving spamming my *Frozen Orb* for 20 years and I don't want that to ever change!

  • @lorenzol.7418
    @lorenzol.7418 3 роки тому

    I was literally wondering when this was coming out about 2 hours ago in the shower.
    My man.

  • @Jobutron1
    @Jobutron1 3 роки тому

    New subscriber to your channel Mr Llama; great informative content! A seasoned veteran like myself didn't know a lot of this.

  • @ImCodyReyna
    @ImCodyReyna 3 роки тому +5

    Curious about this, say you have infinity on your Merc and you have a helm and armor that gives plus to all skills. Would this further strengthen your level 12 conviction aura and possibly break more immunities?

    • @Soddanius
      @Soddanius 3 роки тому +5

      It won't. + Skills only works with his native aura

  • @pheelmacababe2861
    @pheelmacababe2861 3 роки тому

    MrLlama, this has been the most helpful and informative instructional video on how to fight hell mode enemies, thank you so much for this i appreciate your feedback and advice!

  • @Zorander.
    @Zorander. 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this Guide!

  • @ismaeldeleija8165
    @ismaeldeleija8165 2 роки тому

    this is the best video on the internet

  • @twizzkwoq2779
    @twizzkwoq2779 3 роки тому +3

    + Mana Burn enemies have extra 20 magic resistance.

  • @dargosz
    @dargosz 3 роки тому +2

    I noticed with my necromancer Amplify lvl 1 vs decrepify lvl 1, actually decrepify remove inmunity but not amplify in all cases. I though Decrepify might remove more resistance than amplify

  • @deeta000
    @deeta000 3 роки тому +3

    While everyone freaks out about cold immunities I’m in the back of the crowd asking if they fixed inferno/arctic blast.

    • @pandemonium2431
      @pandemonium2431 3 роки тому

      Inferno and firewall are crap

    • @deeta000
      @deeta000 3 роки тому

      @@pandemonium2431
      Yeah they’re crap but I’d rather them suck than be completely unusable.

  • @LadaHusakLH
    @LadaHusakLH 3 роки тому +21

    I ask again... WHY SHOULD COLD MASTERY not break immunities? Isn't that a good change? You have pala auras breaking them, necro curses are breaking them and only sorc's resist skill was not doing that. And more so cold resist which is otherwise hard to break (maybe because the skill should have work like it is now?). That was a nonsense to me. Now it actually makes sense.

    • @yokiyoky2678
      @yokiyoky2678 3 роки тому

      souhlasím. pokud na lvl 20 dává cold mastery -110% resist. tak by to mělo zrušit celou imunitu až na 0 (u jednotek do 110% resist.), nebo klidně i do záporu.
      pokud by se to někomu zdálo moc OP, můžou to balancnout jen číselně. buď upravit resist jednotek, nebo snížit o kolik to snižuje

    • @sleek462
      @sleek462 3 роки тому

      So with this fix should I be maxing out the cold mastery skill or get it close to max and let +to skills on gear carry me to max cold mastery? Thanks in advance

    • @LadaHusakLH
      @LadaHusakLH 3 роки тому

      ​@@sleek462 Well that depends. I don't know if anyone figured out already how the formula of it works. I don't think it is as simple as the tooltip says (for example lvl 25 Cold mastery: -145% cold resist). It works probably in the same way as the auras so it's 1/5th or whatever on immunes. So you will never get to 0 cold res, you will just make most of the monsters not immune, but still highly resistant. And you will not break immunities of the unique monsters with cold enxchanted affixes. Sooo... someone will have do some calculations of how much point is worth putting into it or if it's still better to just skip or run split cold/fire.​

  • @Mon_FX
    @Mon_FX 3 роки тому +39

    You seem dead-set on the " bug " for the cold sorc. It literally says " piercing emeies' resistance " ... " -X% to cold resistance ". Just look at that table you showed - that is a perfect example ! Look how pathetic the cold sorc looks, you are babying a merc, or going to another elemental damage. And before you say " if you're maxed out and a pro at the game, you can be OP " - not everyone can do that. Especially if the cold sorc can't do damage to so many mobs. In my mind - this is a fixed bug. You are literally naming ways to get auras and skills from other characters onto you and your merc, but don't want the sorc to you her OWN skill ? Come on.

    • @jareddurr4320
      @jareddurr4320 3 роки тому +8

      “Look how pathetic the cold Sorc is”
      Lmao it’s literally one of if not the best build in the game depending on what value you place on getting to late game gear

    • @dakodaarmstrong5
      @dakodaarmstrong5 3 роки тому +2

      Bro cold sorc has the ability to kill the most of any Element
      Try playing a lighting without infinity

    • @Konarcoffee
      @Konarcoffee 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah "bug" because it's a big difference vs. the original PC game. If the goal was to bring the previous game functionality wholesale over (and given the fact this wasn't a listed change), then yeah by definition it would be a bug. I mean whatever you want your character to be better I get it, but nothing wrong with the phrasing here.

    • @baboje91
      @baboje91 3 роки тому +5

      It could have just been bugged for 20 years like the cow level was, bet a lot of you that say that they need to change it back didn't think of that one.

    • @whodeyfps478
      @whodeyfps478 3 роки тому +3

      @@baboje91 the assassin's traps taking away boys mobs also was a 20 year bug they just fixed but this for some reason is a glitch I don't get it.

  • @alexs5316
    @alexs5316 3 роки тому

    Great video! Thanks for this!

  • @oninani7940
    @oninani7940 3 роки тому

    It says specifically in the Cold Mastery description In-Game, "causes penetration against cold res"

  • @mbz5152
    @mbz5152 3 роки тому

    I'm not a pro at this game by any means, but by looking at the design, it's obvious to me that they intended cold mastery to break immunities, why else would cold immune monsters have way higher resistances than the other elements? The description of it literally says "pierces the cold resistance of your enemies."
    They made a mistake, and left it in. And now they corrected it.

  • @devileh
    @devileh 3 роки тому

    What does color video on your Twitch cost at the moment? Heard there was a sale on audio.

  • @ameliabright3519
    @ameliabright3519 3 роки тому

    MrLlamaSC? More like DrLlamaSC
    Thanks so much for your help fam

  • @arlowicks9359
    @arlowicks9359 2 роки тому +1

    Something I'm struggling to find out, and I was hoping you would have covered it... How do things like rainbow facets, crescent moon, griffons, cold mastery (old) interact with monsters that have had there immunity broken. Does it just not apply at all? Does it apply after the immunity has broken at full effect or at 1/5 effect?

  • @RaydenLGX
    @RaydenLGX 3 роки тому

    Saving Anya in Hell with a pure Cold Sorc is a true nightmare xD

  • @ciprianlupsa557
    @ciprianlupsa557 3 роки тому

    great insight, so helpful

  • @ryder7616
    @ryder7616 3 роки тому

    Thanks for everything you do

  • @ListenAlQuran
    @ListenAlQuran 3 роки тому

    The greater I watch this kind video, the greater I am fascinated

  • @Gottabelegend
    @Gottabelegend 3 роки тому +1

    Salute Mr. Llama! Thanks again for the video, but it seems the immunities link takes you to an empty page.

  • @sodomagomorah8110
    @sodomagomorah8110 3 роки тому

    great vid !!! Thx for your work

  • @kelrush8629
    @kelrush8629 2 роки тому

    Love your work!

  • @kina777
    @kina777 3 роки тому +2

    On console the monster immunities appears with simbols and not with text anymore (big blue font saying immune to cold). Its very hard to see. There is some way to change it?

    • @KillerDeadXero
      @KillerDeadXero 3 роки тому

      Leaving comment. Would like to know also

    • @XxfelipemaxxX
      @XxfelipemaxxX 3 роки тому

      I found it easier to see immunities with those icons instead of the text. I play on PC but when you use a controller it changes the HUD to match the console one.

  • @ShadowViewsOnly
    @ShadowViewsOnly 3 роки тому

    And what happens when there are so many of these mobs that anywhere you go, you just get surrounded?

  • @apex403
    @apex403 3 роки тому

    Was this video based on my tweet to you on how to deal with wraiths/ghosts in the countess tower? ;) haha

  • @hanliu1861
    @hanliu1861 3 роки тому

    Lama is officailly the professor of Diablo 2

  • @blech71
    @blech71 3 роки тому

    Great deep dive. Gonna show my buddy this since he was arguing my wand on Java not being that great when it actually is on swap…. Just have to be fast and good position since it kinda seems that recovery is a bit more pronounced with D2R. I don’t remember being Interrupted as hard in legacy. Maybe it’s the new engine overlay but it seems to be a bit more punishing now.

  • @jawstrock2215
    @jawstrock2215 3 роки тому

    That cold immune list, almost feels like cold mastery was always suppose to break them.. but at some point someone derp and decided it shouldn't and.. yeah.

  • @loretozamoras4459
    @loretozamoras4459 7 місяців тому

    This is very informative for a newbie like me because I am pissed by these immunities of mobs.

  • @michaelpettersson4919
    @michaelpettersson4919 3 роки тому

    Bowazon in Tal Rasha's tombs vs physical immune ghosts backed up by unravellers that keep raising the ghosts and with their wall off blocking any attemt at killing them.

  • @Teshkul
    @Teshkul 3 роки тому

    It's not only Cold Mastery, but all -Resistance stuff. My Crescent Moon allows me to damage lightning immunes (those with 100 or 105% resistance, at least) atm.

  • @gaberielpendragon
    @gaberielpendragon 3 роки тому

    If you break cold immunes on a sorc, it's super breaks due to cold mastery completely crushing the now broken immunity.

  • @ShadowViewsOnly
    @ShadowViewsOnly 3 роки тому

    Llama, the link you posted in the description no longer works. Please refer another link.
    Thank you.

  • @youtubiak
    @youtubiak 3 роки тому +2

    "just avoid them" so... how am i suposed to clear den of evil with a blizz sorc? :D

  • @devinm9245
    @devinm9245 3 роки тому

    "I was born without any Immunities!" - Bubble Boy

  • @Coziest777
    @Coziest777 3 роки тому

    3:30 what a boss move

  • @patorecchi8846
    @patorecchi8846 3 роки тому

    Great video!