My personal theorey is that when that bean was shot at the original robotnic roborobotnic was placed under his skin rising them as they are shown th share memories that existed with the other not having the mentioned memories so I believe they fused
One thing I always wondered about Archie Sonic is why in the issue where the original Robotnik returned didn’t Eggman recognize Robotnik? They literally spoke to each other in a earlier issue back when Eggman was still Robo Robotnik 2.0 and no Im not talking about the original Robo Robotnik either
Well… that was… something else. I didn’t grow up reading the Archie Comics and I forget how wild some of these early plot points were in this. Especially when Penders was still head writer. Plus, wouldn’t this just all be retconned later in the Archie run before it was inevitably canned by SEGA?
Early Archie Sonic was the wild wild west when it came to story telling lol. Yeah, spoilers for the follow-up video but, it'll all be for nothing because it all gets retconned lol
@@FantasticSamtastic I can kind of understand now why SEGA is more restrictive with the IDW Comics. As well as making an attempt to keep up with the established lore now with the games.
@@agentomecha634I mean, do you really think it's fair to blame the writers when even Sega of America wasn't given enough information from Sega of Japan because of their whole pointless rivalry?
I usually think that all the "This story is ultra complicated" video taglines are just for exaggeration, but BOI this one was a bit hard to follow. 😅 Thank you for your hard work!
Wait wasn't the Eggman in archie was orignaly from difrent dimensions that killed his Sonic and came to the Robotnik dimension just to fight Sonic. I remember there being a comic of team-up between Robotnik and Eggman or did I mix up something?
@@FantasticSamtasticyeah another thing that Robo-Robotnik wasn’t even the same one from issue 19. It’s said the one from issue 19 was destroyed with his giant borg and the one that took Robotnik's place after his death was called Robo-Robotnik 2.0 the one that would become Eggman. As he sent the original Robotnik back to the Prime Zone he learned about the Giant Borg found the piece that ended up in his universe and used it to build his new body. He then killed his enemies with a nuke. Then he got bored and went to the prime zone to take his dead counterpart's place.
Yeah that's my bad as well, if I remember right, that's a change Ian Flynn kinda cemented that wasn't super clear early on before hand. When reading the comics sequentially I don't think they make reference to the different robo-robotniks and that's kinda how I was rolling here
I find it stupid that a war started because of two idiot, kid because one bring a gun to show off and one instead of knocking/stopping him from shooting it jump straight into the line of fire.
That room Kodos took Julian to, including the portal in it, originally belong to Ixis Naugus. Kodos betrayed Naugus and threw him into the portal. Then Juilan would later fo the same thing to Kodos.
@@FantasticSamtasticYou should do D.E.L. Grandmasters sometimes in the future. I know its a lot of work in comparison to less developed Egg Bosses but it would be cool to have them and compare them.
to be fair, unless I am wrong, nothing has shown kodos to be a particularly smart villain, perhaps his plan really was just to get robotnik's help in jsut forcefully taking over the kingdom and yeeting anyone who could potentially get in his way into the zone of silence
Other UA-cam channels only cover a few stories like the lsd hotdog and go archie comics were weird You cover it in small chunks for characters and interesting/odd plotlines Keep doing it at your rythm sam
I like how the humans are the technological rulers but are physically incapable of fighting due to the frail human body. If animals had sapience they would be superior to us in every way.
I will always favor the name Eggman for him over his own family name, Robotnik. When I use the name Robotnik, it'll be in the games prior to Sonic Adventure. Or when I talk about his Grandfather Gerald Robotnik.
I felt like it's kind of x men for starters they're mutants others are just humans it's kind of like same pattern in Marvel Comics That is really complicated even more same level
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Seeing he had normal eyes before they became black and red, it make me wonder if he changed his eyes for robotics one or other things.
My personal theorey is that when that bean was shot at the original robotnic roborobotnic was placed under his skin rising them as they are shown th share memories that existed with the other not having the mentioned memories so I believe they fused
One thing I always wondered about Archie Sonic is why in the issue where the original Robotnik returned didn’t Eggman recognize Robotnik? They literally spoke to each other in a earlier issue back when Eggman was still Robo Robotnik 2.0 and no Im not talking about the original Robo Robotnik either
Writing between the two has always been kinda weird lol
in all fairness, he looked way past different
typical old archie writing
Well… that was… something else. I didn’t grow up reading the Archie Comics and I forget how wild some of these early plot points were in this. Especially when Penders was still head writer. Plus, wouldn’t this just all be retconned later in the Archie run before it was inevitably canned by SEGA?
Early Archie Sonic was the wild wild west when it came to story telling lol. Yeah, spoilers for the follow-up video but, it'll all be for nothing because it all gets retconned lol
@@FantasticSamtastic I can kind of understand now why SEGA is more restrictive with the IDW Comics. As well as making an attempt to keep up with the established lore now with the games.
@@agentomecha634I mean, do you really think it's fair to blame the writers when even Sega of America wasn't given enough information from Sega of Japan because of their whole pointless rivalry?
@@ashesGeek You make a good point.
God i love these crazy comics. Keep em coming mate!
Thanks so much! I've got a chunk planned for the year, so stay tuned!
I could proudly say my favorite Sonic robot is Crocodile tank
Croc Tank is love
Grear video, and a great retrospective on Robotnik! Excited for the next episode! 5/5
Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed it!
I usually think that all the "This story is ultra complicated" video taglines are just for exaggeration, but BOI this one was a bit hard to follow. 😅
Thank you for your hard work!
14:09 because his new body, I keep forgetting that he's Robotnik/Julian
YES! looking forward to more Archie Sonic videos from you, Sam! I love your channel 🫶🏻
Thank you so much! That's super motivating 💕
5:20
Which has got to be the biggest mistake Charles/Chuck has ever made.
A mistake he probably regretted for the rest of his life.
Wait wasn't the Eggman in archie was orignaly from difrent dimensions that killed his Sonic and came to the Robotnik dimension just to fight Sonic. I remember there being a comic of team-up between Robotnik and Eggman or did I mix up something?
You got it right, you need to check out my video on Eggman which serves as a part two to this video and it'll go over that.
Alright! More Archie lore 👌. You gotta love it
Heck yeah! Thanks so much!
@@FantasticSamtastic 👍
One thing you got wrong the satellite with Robo-Robotnik's conscious wasn’t in the Prime zone it was in Robo-Robotnik's original zone.
Thanks for pointing that out! I thought it got moved into the Prime Zone. My bad!
@@FantasticSamtasticyeah another thing that Robo-Robotnik wasn’t even the same one from issue 19. It’s said the one from issue 19 was destroyed with his giant borg and the one that took Robotnik's place after his death was called Robo-Robotnik 2.0 the one that would become Eggman. As he sent the original Robotnik back to the Prime Zone he learned about the Giant Borg found the piece that ended up in his universe and used it to build his new body. He then killed his enemies with a nuke. Then he got bored and went to the prime zone to take his dead counterpart's place.
Yeah that's my bad as well, if I remember right, that's a change Ian Flynn kinda cemented that wasn't super clear early on before hand. When reading the comics sequentially I don't think they make reference to the different robo-robotniks and that's kinda how I was rolling here
I find it stupid that a war started because of two idiot, kid because one bring a gun to show off and one instead of knocking/stopping him from shooting it jump straight into the line of fire.
typical old archie writing
I can hear Mike Pollock reading these lines in this book
funnily the fatter robotnik is based on the one from sonic SatAM, voiced incredibly menacingly by Jim Cummings, so thats how i read THIS version
That panel of 5hr bean makes it look like the roborobotnic was placed under robotnics skin fusing them
That room Kodos took Julian to, including the portal in it, originally belong to Ixis Naugus. Kodos betrayed Naugus and threw him into the portal. Then Juilan would later fo the same thing to Kodos.
I am Warlord Doctor Julian RoboRobotnik Kintobor Eggman from the House of Ivo Mach II !!!
Don't give away my next video 😜
@@FantasticSamtasticYou should do D.E.L. Grandmasters sometimes in the future. I know its a lot of work in comparison to less developed Egg Bosses but it would be cool to have them and compare them.
to be fair, unless I am wrong, nothing has shown kodos to be a particularly smart villain, perhaps his plan really was just to get robotnik's help in jsut forcefully taking over the kingdom and yeeting anyone who could potentially get in his way into the zone of silence
Other UA-cam channels only cover a few stories like the lsd hotdog and go archie comics were weird
You cover it in small chunks for characters and interesting/odd plotlines
Keep doing it at your rythm sam
Thank you!
You haven't lost your fire to cover archie comics lore, i see
Haha not yet! I enjoy it still, but if you have any suggestions lemme know
I like how the humans are the technological rulers but are physically incapable of fighting due to the frail human body. If animals had sapience they would be superior to us in every way.
we would devolve into homo sapiens if that was the case
pre 2006 archie was so wierd
I will always favor the name Eggman for him over his own family name, Robotnik. When I use the name Robotnik, it'll be in the games prior to Sonic Adventure. Or when I talk about his Grandfather Gerald Robotnik.
Your forgetting Dr Robotnik from the adventures of sonic the hedgehog the one that wasn't the dark future.
I felt like it's kind of x men for starters they're mutants others are just humans it's kind of like same pattern in Marvel Comics That is really complicated even more same level
it's for sure as complicated as following the xmen lol
Dude, you gotta cover Endgame in a future video.
King Julian and eggman share the same first name. Therefore king Julian=Eggman.
Why did his eyes change though? Did he replace them with robotics?
I don't think it's ever stated. I always assumed it was robotics
@@FantasticSamtastic My theory is that this is implied as much as it‘s implied that he replaced his ears with robotics too.
Personally I prefer the name Dr Robotnik as it’s more serious than the name eggman
Storytelling as throwing every thought that occurs to you on the page without consideration 📄 😂😂😂😂