The ONLY Support Macro Guide You'll EVER NEED - League of Legends Season 9

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  • @proguidesleague
    @proguidesleague  5 років тому +61

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  • @warvester
    @warvester 5 років тому +3186

    Me: roams
    Adc: *I have decided that I now want to die.*

    • @newt7763
      @newt7763 4 роки тому +23

      Depends on the Matchup and ur ADC. If ur ADC is a Jinx or Twitch u shouldn't let him alone, but with a Ezreal (for example) u can roam the whole time.

    • @grantmorehead8691
      @grantmorehead8691 4 роки тому +47

      Your adc:
      Sion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @Darkmagician923
      @Darkmagician923 4 роки тому +37

      usually my adc's are saying "support is trolling, im gonna int or afk now, free lose" if I decide to roam (which I do without giving a shit about them) - that's why my ratio is 50% 4ever stucked diamond :facepalm:

    • @cianlogan9988
      @cianlogan9988 4 роки тому +35

      Darkmagician923 do NOT complain about diamond.

    • @grantmorehead8691
      @grantmorehead8691 4 роки тому +5

      @@Darkmagician923 this ain't discord

  • @reimo1065
    @reimo1065 5 років тому +3627

    Sure go roam during lane phase in low elo. It won't take you more than about 30 seconds before your adc realises he is 1v2 and decides to engage just so he can blame you for not being there.

    • @ataxia5304
      @ataxia5304 5 років тому +335

      Actually true. Leave lane for 10 seconds and you'll find your adc has already walked up and died.

    • @maui1714
      @maui1714 5 років тому +41

      Not true as a adc main and currently gold. I expect supports to roam and force them when I shove a wave lol clearing wards are always important.sometimes I roam with my support depending on the situations.

    • @shinnguyen7176
      @shinnguyen7176 5 років тому +105

      @@maui1714 eh. it's still a coinflip in gold elo tbh. Some realize/know the importance of it and will play accordingly, or they actually go roam with you after pushing the wave. But the other half still doesn't understand this concept. The ones that understand this will naturally climb the ranks faster, or at least a higher chance of. The ones that are still stuck despite doing this, probably have other fundamental issues

    • @joelakinyemi954
      @joelakinyemi954 5 років тому +60

      Whenever I realize we can't look to 2v2, I look to roam to my team more ahead. Then my ADC starts flaming the hell out of me cause she is not aware of to farm safe.

    • @sovannah9219
      @sovannah9219 5 років тому +6

      emanuel ruiz well then, gimme your summoner name pls and we’ll lane pls

  • @gogogomes7025
    @gogogomes7025 5 років тому +1997

    Support rule Nº1 you are tht *team's* Support not a ADC babysitter

    • @Moon_Presence
      @Moon_Presence 5 років тому +161

      Actually everyone on the team is the adcs support.. But no one understands that

    • @guidomista3570
      @guidomista3570 5 років тому +98

      I like supporting everyone except the adc lol

    • @mohamadzakaria96
      @mohamadzakaria96 5 років тому +16

      @@Moon_Presence this is only valid in pro play. Not in soloQ not even in masters+

    • @Moon_Presence
      @Moon_Presence 5 років тому +14

      @@mohamadzakaria96 Um what? You are very wrong. Every single person in the game peels and protects ADC.... Wtf?

    • @maui1714
      @maui1714 5 років тому +1

      Not true when I’m adc you my bitch simple😂😂 jk..

  • @teeje8205
    @teeje8205 5 років тому +1974

    Bold of you to assume my adc will cooperate in any of the said rotations

    • @B3llyk0
      @B3llyk0 5 років тому +95

      Try to play with a friend, random people are fucking retarded

    • @avozsaj
      @avozsaj 4 роки тому +24

      And tell your friend your plan beforehand too. I don't mind being alone when I'm on Sivir, but I wouldn't want to be an Ashe 1v2 vs a Blitzcrank.

    • @filipesantos5466
      @filipesantos5466 4 роки тому +44

      Oh, how many times i've left bot to ward/roam and my adc dies overextending and i take de blame.

    • @temo810
      @temo810 4 роки тому +3

      Teeje
      that happened to me only 3 out of 6 times i played as support....
      4 of those games has an inting Miss Fortune

    • @doll__04
      @doll__04 4 роки тому +8

      B3LLY what if my friend is retarded and complains about every fucking thing i do :(

  • @thatdodo8263
    @thatdodo8263 5 років тому +1063

    Carry as a support
    SHOWS RIVEN GAMEPLAY

    • @7amo0o0dmohamed8
      @7amo0o0dmohamed8 5 років тому +18

      don't forget yi gameplay xD

    • @NolanVengeance
      @NolanVengeance 5 років тому +63

      You mean you're not playing Riven Support?? You're missin out on this free LP.

    • @7amo0o0dmohamed8
      @7amo0o0dmohamed8 5 років тому +8

      @@NolanVengeance just play yi support and u will go to challenger in 1 day

    • @shockbladezed1871
      @shockbladezed1871 5 років тому +6

      Everyone knows that the best support at the game right now is riven

    • @thatdodo8263
      @thatdodo8263 5 років тому +15

      @@shockbladezed1871 you mean river shen?

  • @Trogleth
    @Trogleth 4 роки тому +1059

    If you are in a losing lane maybe abandon bot to its fate.
    Mid laner: wtf are you doing in my lane?!??!?!??

    • @stefanosgeorgiou621
      @stefanosgeorgiou621 4 роки тому +36

      helping other lanes does not mean, making mid a 2v1 lane omegalul

    • @gaseday1
      @gaseday1 4 роки тому +76

      Omfg this cannot be more true. EVERYTIME I ROAM MY MID COMPLAINS so stupid

    • @jlthakad
      @jlthakad 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly

    • @elih6087
      @elih6087 4 роки тому +19

      Ikr. I tried to help toplane after my Renektom pinged for assistance 5 times but he was pinging me away and said I was trolling. Not 10 seconds later when I was warding top side jungle my Jungler ganked his lane and he said nothing.

    • @Ckpnguyen
      @Ckpnguyen 4 роки тому +3

      @@gaseday1 I mean I did that too because bot lane decided to come mid and take my cs... and stayed there even though they didn’t even take turret

  • @jpnace5499
    @jpnace5499 5 років тому +676

    Finally thanks very much. I hope more people appreciate support role. Specially toxic adc

    • @chavalomiguel5587
      @chavalomiguel5587 5 років тому +4

      Stop crying

    • @westenev
      @westenev 5 років тому +72

      ​@@aaaabb2977 Actually, as a support player, the thing I took out of this video was that you should probably roam out of botom if your ADC can't be helped...

    • @luchtin
      @luchtin 5 років тому +1

      Xd

    • @chrisven899
      @chrisven899 5 років тому

      I play Vladimir support and I somehow manage to climb. You just get focussed and then sustain the dmg while your adc is safe.

    • @user-gu9zm1vy1k
      @user-gu9zm1vy1k 5 років тому +6

      SKoupidopick
      Wait what- Vlad support and you’re climbing? Why should i even talk i go morgana top and still win :P

  • @cernos7230
    @cernos7230 5 років тому +634

    Support: Leaves to roam*
    ADC: YAY I AM FREE NOW!!!...0/5

    • @abdusselamzahma7474
      @abdusselamzahma7474 5 років тому +5

      Then you don't know how to roam

    • @cernos7230
      @cernos7230 5 років тому

      @@abdusselamzahma7474 I don't know but I tell my ADC to just TH after a push and last hit whenever I have a Soraka, Morg, Taric, Janna matchup

    • @abdusselamzahma7474
      @abdusselamzahma7474 5 років тому +13

      @@cernos7230 There're conditions to roam. Ofc after pushing the wave or killing your enemy. You can counter gank or counter roam to 2v1 the enemy midlaner who comes to bot. You can also roam from the base. And you can bait the enemy botlaners to 3v2 when your jungler is nearby. Obviously you can't and shouldn't roam for all the matchups. Some adc champions can't handle 2v1 when you roam

    • @iresss4810
      @iresss4810 5 років тому +10

      In my opinion and experience, many ADCs cant help themselves and thier position in lane and teamfight are suck.If you leave them alone they will said like "I cant CS" or "Where you go" especially when they died.
      Easy way to roam around the map its about when first botlane turret is destroyed.

    • @iresss4810
      @iresss4810 5 років тому

      @@abdusselamzahma7474 Im support your comment too.

  • @shwekey8073
    @shwekey8073 4 роки тому +172

    Me : *Watches this 2 minutes before the game starts because I got autofilled*

    • @masterlacrivose987
      @masterlacrivose987 3 роки тому +2

      Lol it happens

    • @malena9341
      @malena9341 3 роки тому

      Did you win?

    • @shwekey8073
      @shwekey8073 3 роки тому +8

      @@malena9341 man that was 11 months ago 😂 and I still remember it, I played blitz and won

  • @heidtb6746
    @heidtb6746 5 років тому +118

    **tries to build up slow push**
    My ADC: **completely deletes the wave, because "he needs the cs"**

  • @boguswd8572
    @boguswd8572 5 років тому +507

    How tf am I supposed to slowpush when my adc doesn't even know what that means

    • @rndmonyt
      @rndmonyt 5 років тому +14

      Michał Bożek relatable.

    • @Showmemercy123
      @Showmemercy123 5 років тому +4

      LMFAO !

    • @Lidischberger
      @Lidischberger 5 років тому +72

      Same here. How the hell should I control the waves, when the adc attacks everything that moves

    • @DriveYourCar
      @DriveYourCar 5 років тому +65

      Damage the back minions first it will bait the ADC into killing them cos they get worries u might steal them meaning that the coasters get killed first. Probably the best you can get to a slow push in low ELO. But if you’re that Low elo then the main approach you should take to climbing is working on not being toxic and just skirmishing better in lane until you get to a point you have an ADC who knows what a slow push is

    • @aditya5162
      @aditya5162 4 роки тому +1

      if you are that low elo play a different role to an elo where people understand

  • @0maskot0
    @0maskot0 4 роки тому +102

    Every ADC should watch this guide so they can finally understand what we are doing ... #supportforlife

  • @BinBintheRiceCake
    @BinBintheRiceCake 4 роки тому +102

    ADC: "brb, items"
    Support: :D *readies pitchforks, fertilizer, and secures self to turret

  • @rebekahmork1659
    @rebekahmork1659 4 роки тому +11

    DUDEEE I tried one game after watching this and I went from 0-5-12 average to 9-9-26 I carried the entire team. I roamed successfully and got my bot and helped top so much. Literally am so happy with the improvement!

  • @jarafPL
    @jarafPL 5 років тому +39

    Wait, this is a funny way to spell "jungle guide"
    In all seriousness, that's some quality content. I didn't expect this much explained in a single guide, yet I don't think there was anything to add without making it too specific.

  • @redred7702
    @redred7702 5 років тому +182

    No matter how much I follow this guide, my ADC will always think it’s my fault when he goes 0/5 at 8 minutes.
    Edit: And the ADC mains start flaming my comment LOL
    Edit: And some deleted their comments.
    Another edit cause shit, use logic: The point is us supports ARE trying to improve. Most of us aren't just portable ward :/ . But no matter how much we do, supports will still get flamed by their ADCs that they have to babysit.

    • @gameguru42392
      @gameguru42392 5 років тому +8

      You are the common denominator in your games. 90% of supports play like wards anyway. Count on supports to use this vid to flame adcs instead of looking at thier own gameplay and improving.

    • @maui1714
      @maui1714 5 років тому +4

      Then go zyra and carry lmaoo

    • @kiraila19
      @kiraila19 4 роки тому +75

      they always think we have infinite mana and heals. yay

    • @grantmorehead8691
      @grantmorehead8691 4 роки тому +3

      When I go 0/5 at 8 minutes its usually because my support decides he's good enough to carry the team as blitzcrank and steals all of my kills ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @batratqqq
      @batratqqq 4 роки тому +2

      As a support main just wrong lol. All supports below d2 are just walking wards

  • @DARKBRINGERx
    @DARKBRINGERx 3 роки тому +11

    I just started playing League about a month ago and love it. I happen to be a one trick Pyke support and I can already tell right away that being a support seems to get the most shit in the team chat. I'm either to blame for my adc pushing too far in and dying, or I'm not allowed to kill any of the minions or even weaken them, Or I'm pushing the wave too fast. When I leave lane to roam to mid I get shit from my adc for abandoning them or sometimes I get told by mid to leave their lane because I'm messing them up. Man I love support :,)

    • @blutwirbel3180
      @blutwirbel3180 2 роки тому +2

      Oh boy! Jungle can get so much worse, miss 1 drake, don't counter gank from the other side of the map, don't gank pushed in lanes... Everything is solely your fault (though support tends to get flame more consistently cause of the duo lane)

    • @ava5375
      @ava5375 Рік тому

      I think jungle gets far worse but supp is definitely the second worst role because adcs are expected to int so no one flames them as much 😭

  • @yuehan3681
    @yuehan3681 5 років тому +96

    Yay, I've been waiting this vid since I'm a support main, thank you.

  • @hana3079
    @hana3079 5 років тому +134

    how come most adc mains flame their supports for roaming? most of my supports do that all the time and i have no problem staying safe.

    • @zachariz1490
      @zachariz1490 5 років тому +21

      sushi rolls 99 because they have problem staying safe

    • @stefanosgeorgiou621
      @stefanosgeorgiou621 4 роки тому +30

      @@zachariz1490 nope its more about thinking they are the only win condition

    • @jamiemcclymont6745
      @jamiemcclymont6745 4 роки тому +1

      I main Bard/Pyke when am I not roaming

    • @neko4069
      @neko4069 3 роки тому +1

      You're a literal godsent gift to support mains.

    • @TheSquirrelbeast
      @TheSquirrelbeast 2 роки тому

      God bless you

  • @curtbiz5368
    @curtbiz5368 5 років тому +277

    This isn’t gonna work in bronze I just get yelled at 😂

    • @Whoomps
      @Whoomps 5 років тому +41

      one simply does not play support in bronze.

    • @lukasbroderus8582
      @lukasbroderus8582 5 років тому +9

      But doing this will take you out of bronze

    • @androideight7751
      @androideight7751 5 років тому +4

      what supports do you play?
      I can give you a few tips to maybe help out and not get you yelled at

    • @ACertainGuy0
      @ACertainGuy0 5 років тому +18

      /muteall at start of game. End of story.

    • @HugeCoffeeAddict
      @HugeCoffeeAddict 5 років тому +6

      Do it anyway and mute them if they try to flame you for it.
      Midlaners will appreciate you doing it, and your jungler will appreciate it as well.

  • @simpson6700
    @simpson6700 5 років тому +304

    it's funny how all these guides will tilt your whole team in low elo.
    top lane loses, bot lane wins
    support goes top, adc plays too aggressively, adc dies
    adc flames support, top flames support
    top and bottom are tilted, both lanes lose
    jungler has no idea what's going on
    enemy can pressure mid now, mid tilts
    jungler has no more lanes to gank
    report support

    • @samch9031
      @samch9031 4 роки тому +16

      Even in plat. The roaming is only good diamond+. Most plat players will flame the support for leaving bot lane.

    • @batratqqq
      @batratqqq 4 роки тому +3

      Sam Ch I climbed from iron 2 to diamond 4 playing support. And the only way of doing that is roaming lol

    • @siminaivancescu3784
      @siminaivancescu3784 3 роки тому +1

      ITS ALWAYS LIKE THIS

  • @renanrodriguesbarreto5254
    @renanrodriguesbarreto5254 5 років тому +56

    thx for the guide! was waiting for it. a guide about matchups and counters for the botlane would be awesome too

  • @papafrita7538
    @papafrita7538 5 років тому +8

    Great video, I am a main supp Plat 1 for several seasons and I have to says I learned so much from this video, I have to say thank you Pro Guides!

  • @Rithmy
    @Rithmy 5 років тому +28

    13:27
    In my whole 8 years of playing lol as janna main, i only every stole baron 2 times and dragon maybe like 5 times. extremly low chances^^

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel 4 роки тому +2

      As Rakan I managed to steal dragon a couple times this past month and survive. Wait for the opportune moment, W in to stun melee, steal dragon then E out of there with the carefully positioned tank and/or R with a lot of luck (saving Dash for such an occasion). The salty tears give me life lol.

  • @anirudhrangesh7350
    @anirudhrangesh7350 5 років тому +30

    Finally, something for supports ty
    Nice vid

  • @115DELDE
    @115DELDE 5 років тому +59

    Rule N°2
    Vision wins games. Wards got me to Gold IV this year, and I am a ranked coward.

    • @lycanrocknroll9158
      @lycanrocknroll9158 5 років тому +28

      Kinda sucks when your vision score is double the total of everyone else in your team though. People think it's only the support's job to ward.

    • @FakeDessert
      @FakeDessert 3 роки тому +1

      I was placing wards in bot Jung and enemy jungle, river and some idiot was flaming me for not placing wards like????

    • @115DELDE
      @115DELDE 3 роки тому

      @@FakeDessert lololol

  • @StopPanakinAnakin
    @StopPanakinAnakin 4 роки тому +23

    Question :
    I main support - roaming tips were great, however, I'm always spooked about missing out on XP and falling behind as well as leaving my ADC alone.
    Should I be worried about this?

    • @TheChangeYT
      @TheChangeYT 4 роки тому +10

      go for roams which have a high chance of success (low midlaner or out of position at tower)

    • @RynerAGL
      @RynerAGL 3 роки тому +5

      This is why you often just roam after hard shove, so you can roam mid and get exp there on the next minion wave or have enough time to go back if needed.

  • @kagami27
    @kagami27 5 років тому +91

    maybe that stupid random adc will finally understand why I am roaming so much as a support instead of pinging me question marks, hmm, probably not xD

    • @CyanideOwl
      @CyanideOwl 4 роки тому +2

      The most tilting thing for me is the pinging.

    • @palkay875
      @palkay875 4 роки тому

      Supports arent babysitters

    • @debby4816
      @debby4816 4 роки тому

      First they start pinging and after a minute or so they start calling you useless and a mistake. Just me?

  • @Riviel_
    @Riviel_ 5 років тому +31

    Many comments are from supports, many are from toxic/feeder/salty "ADC" players, and Yasuo mains.

  • @nadia6994
    @nadia6994 5 років тому +5

    This guide is amazing! Thank you so much :D I'm going to watch this before every game to make sure it gets into my head :)

    • @taku6541
      @taku6541 5 років тому

      Same haha gl

  • @josipkreso9962
    @josipkreso9962 5 років тому +27

    Yeah, usualy when i roam my adc fights 1v2 then dies and blames me...

  • @nikkopastoral9929
    @nikkopastoral9929 2 роки тому +1

    As support user and Braum main this role has huge Task for the team even in team fight you need to correct your Gameplay wisely and Protect ADC
    My only job as a Support role
    - help Jungle Farm at lvl 1
    - Protect ADC As much as possible
    - Get an assist
    - Sacrifice
    - Protect Jungle while They doing dragon,herald , baron

  • @davidmende3409
    @davidmende3409 5 років тому +7

    Dude - i'm amazed once more - the amount of free value you'r giving is huge and a can't process even half of it XD thx man

  • @BenShakeesha
    @BenShakeesha 4 роки тому +13

    How am I meant to slow push when my ape adc just wants to perma shove all game

  • @ninalangova9763
    @ninalangova9763 4 роки тому +3

    My first ranked as Lux in nutshell:
    My adc (tristana) wouldn't let me touch minions because they were "his". He also blamed me for his death and not q enemies even though they were 360° surrounded by minions.
    It was a really interesting game...

  • @wunderer9377
    @wunderer9377 5 років тому +2

    Thank you so much! I am currently in diamond, but I lacked macro. This helped a lot, and people allow me to create more pressure and overall be more useful as a laner.

  • @cryptoranty1286
    @cryptoranty1286 3 роки тому +1

    Any tips on how to still do freezes, slow pushing, roamings when your ADC doesn't know how to play around it? Especially wave management.

  • @warrentang7459
    @warrentang7459 5 років тому +1

    Really changed my mindset and showed me what's possible other than grabbing playing. Ty

  • @PrivateOnly007
    @PrivateOnly007 4 роки тому +2

    Support : roams to help mid or team
    ADC: Support trolling me by leaving me alone lol 😂

  • @Gogies777
    @Gogies777 4 роки тому

    sensible guide.I main support and with my observation if the chemistry with an adc is too good to break and mid is doing good,with good vision control early game and fast pushing it hastens the scenario where bot tower is gone therefore 1-3-1 can be achieved immediately.But this guide is a a really good supplement to what i do,If i have an Ez or some other ones that have some form of escape mechanism in their kit,along with few other reasons mentioned why roaming will be beneficial,then i may have to leave bot and at least try to achieve important objectives(it has to be more meaningful than what will be lost if i leave adc).I don't do that in ideally me(as an opinion or habit) as most of the time staying with adc after some risk assessment specially in unranked games,is more beneficial and will result in less emotional repercussion to the team, and also due to maybe because i have a bias with ADC as it used to be my main and i know how frustrating it is not to have" action" and have to play safe when left against 2 opponents.

  • @robinjoshuaasunga5822
    @robinjoshuaasunga5822 5 років тому +17

    Never clicked on a video as fast as this one xD

  • @cognizance283
    @cognizance283 4 роки тому +1

    This is an excellent guide, It's really easy to understand; direct instructions; tackled most points a support may need; and is really easy to follow .. I have some questions regarding to some points tho, and if you ever noticed my comment please, I need your help ;P
    Question #1
    tho I'm not new in support roles since I've been a support for 6 years now, but, it is just recently that I've heard about the word "peel", I may have been doing that but have no Idea what it's called, but still, in my opinion knowing what " peeling" really means would actually help me in my games.
    Question #2
    Is it okay for a support main like me to make the shot calls for the team?? and if it is, how do I make my team listen??
    I have been struggling with this one quite a lot ever since, I know for my self that I'm really good at long term predictions, (not bragging), i can pretty much predict where the enemy jungler is, what's our laning opponent's next move, and basically the movement of the map as whole, I made it possible through basic calculations, map awareness, and keeping in mind of those time intervals, with that said, I think I can make the shot calls for the team but is struggling how to make them listen :<
    that's all my question for now, I hope you guys respect every aspect I'm struggling with, and you are free to scold me, I am doing this to improve, I want to improve!!
    Please help me :<
    That's all Thank you in advance!!

    • @TheChangeYT
      @TheChangeYT 4 роки тому

      q1: stunning assassin's who want to kill adc , staying near adc blocking skillshots
      q2 yes. by making good calls, they will follow often. Also by walking/ leading in direction and don't whine or not compromise if they don't cooperate

  • @abklm1517
    @abklm1517 4 роки тому +1

    Im a platinum jg main and i went on my cousin's bronze acc to learn how to play supp. Before the game starts i type positive stuff like "let's get this dub guys" or "glhf." From what I've learned smurfing from bronze to gold is that you should try and support your team's mental as well by saying supportive words when they make a play like "gj" or "wp faker," and consoling when they do bad plays.

  • @temo810
    @temo810 4 роки тому +2

    I remember today, I played as Sona for the first time and 2 of my teammates (Darius and Ezreal) afked the first 2 mins.
    Miss Fortune was suprisingly good and carried top lane while I defend bot against darius ( lowkey stupid ) and a sett ( somewhat good ). 🤷‍♂️ We still won.

  • @JCasamorin
    @JCasamorin 5 років тому +29

    When your adc is brain dead, you can ditch your partner XD

    • @jayep.6363
      @jayep.6363 4 роки тому +2

      BE THE ADC *-* i went like redemption and solari to redemp and liandry's or the yellow staff(forgot the name) xD
      Cuz hes trying out aphelios and making mistakes. =n=

  • @minarie2865
    @minarie2865 5 років тому +1

    A lot of good advice you got there. On paper. But tell me please how can I as a support control the lane and freeze or slow it? I mean sure I can help the adc do so, but if he doesn't have a clue how lane control works how am I supposed to do it? Not to mention getting yelled at, once I touch just one single minion...I'm genuinely asking for advice on how to help to control the lane as a support!

  • @VegaIllusion
    @VegaIllusion 2 роки тому

    I can fully confirm that roaming as support is one of the hardest things up to plat (possibly at higher ranks as well).
    If you roam, you will get ping spammed, flamed, your adc will die, your solo laners will ping you because of exp, you will find it hard to gank, you will likely get jumped by the enemy jungler/team, and your jungler is possibly the only teammate that won’t actually annoy or flame you as long as you don’t take camps.

  • @Vmaster1
    @Vmaster1 5 років тому +9

    My God, they actually made a video for supports

  • @muhammadnashriq9045
    @muhammadnashriq9045 5 років тому +2

    This is the guide that i waiting for!!!! Thank you PG

  • @kristofkovacsRisy
    @kristofkovacsRisy 5 років тому

    Well, useful video, I'll remember some things. But I really just need to practice IF I want to be better.
    What do you think about splitpushing as Zyra? Twin Shadows + Rylai + wards. I just hope that my team won't die.
    Yesterday I tried to solo Infernal. Sadly my team chased someone and all died, I had to escape from the jungler. Maybe we would've killed them if I'm there. But this is what chat or pings are for. Yet people rarely listen to others. This is why you should never ever use /mute all. Just mute the ones who spam the chat.

  • @Chnshp
    @Chnshp 5 років тому +13

    "Despite what your botlaner might say, you are not tied to your lane"... is that directed at the NB3/nubrac situation lmao

  • @Jaymerlee
    @Jaymerlee 5 років тому +2

    FINALLY! Been waiting for this so long!! Thanks alot!

  • @Rin8Kin
    @Rin8Kin 3 роки тому +2

    Don't we all just love being support when your ADC going 0/3 by 10 min, and then suddenly decide he is superman, and dives without a warning into crowd of 3 fullhealth enemy champs (botlane+jg), cause he has his first item completed and R ready...
    Then OBVIOUSLY he start pingspamming you, cause you didn't dive in after him...

  • @bloodcraver9183
    @bloodcraver9183 5 років тому +1

    I love support guide videos! thank you so much!

  • @alexlira1314
    @alexlira1314 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for doing this video , I’ve wanted this one for a while, you guys are awesome!! :) this helped a lot

  • @elisabethrufli4412
    @elisabethrufli4412 3 роки тому

    Since I’ve started practice my vision, I‘ve improved a lot in not dying 😌👏🏻 thx for the tipps

  • @silverragecx
    @silverragecx 5 років тому +2

    lol i usually roam when adc can safely get solo plating gold . if their item is expensive. and deep ward enemy red or blue buff depending on side. still helps out alot and jg can counter jg more and gank more for us knowing where their jg is or isn't at

    • @wildartfly
      @wildartfly 5 років тому

      SAME! More people need to do this, it is just so effective at gaining gold and pushing towards a win. ❤️

  • @jlthakad
    @jlthakad 4 роки тому

    Problem is solo Q, as a support that is losing lane... if we decide to go to a different lane, mid or top for instance, they will flame you and tell you to get out of their lane, especially if they are ahead, they do not want to share exp, and they do not want you to bring enemy jungle attention to their lane. So... whether its viable or not macro wise... it doesn't work like that, at least not in low elo.

  • @tiramisu6043
    @tiramisu6043 5 років тому +9

    "you're not tied to your lane" poor nubrac

  • @cfitzy8892
    @cfitzy8892 5 років тому

    A good idea is for junglers a guide to balance their cs and ganking so they’re helping their laners but also farming enough camps for gold to buy items and keep up with the enemy jungler. You could explain this balance between multiple groups of champions like champs who need to cs more to champs who need to gank more. I think this would be a great idea for a video to have on your channel!

  • @d-manz3752
    @d-manz3752 4 роки тому +13

    Me playing support: okay I'm just gonna roam a bit and support other lanes
    My adc: •doesn't carry•
    Me: SMELLS LIKE RABABON DEATHCAP IN HERE•

  • @lolmanboss
    @lolmanboss 3 роки тому +2

    Most important rule in low elo sup:
    Dont rely on your adc upfront, check them out while they are farming and if you deem them trustworthy, you rely on him. I dont know how often we lost because we couldnt kill a solo adc as 2 because adc didnt follow engage.

    • @eveemcghee4454
      @eveemcghee4454 2 роки тому

      Some of these adcs get butthurt when you roam because it means they're not the win condition and that hurts their feelings

  • @notme3945
    @notme3945 4 роки тому +1

    Senerio 1:
    Support - caution pings wave
    Adc? - afk auto shove
    Senerio 2:
    Support - pings turret & blue pings minion
    Adc? - freezes usually without even known what a freeze is
    Senerio 3:
    Support - doesn't have to ping

    • @notme3945
      @notme3945 4 роки тому +1

      My favorite - 2020 and adcs STILL deny supports with targons cannon/melee minions. Worst is when you want to last hit it maintain a freeze. Don't tell me to ping it because that's still a 50/50. The items been in the game for years. It's better to just kill the minion as soon as its low enough so you dont fight for it or get traded on when its low only to still get denied by your adc who should be trading.

  • @AmbientDisguise
    @AmbientDisguise 5 років тому

    “You are not tied to your lain” unless a particular streamer says “would you like a two week vacation” in which case this is irrelevant and Riot will straight up ban you. Regardless I know you are right that you shouldn’t be tied to your lane and I appreciate hearing it, I just wish Riot is as well.
    Anyway thank you for the guide, it is one I have been waiting for and I really appreciate it.

  • @gogogomes7025
    @gogogomes7025 5 років тому

    The support role it's the one who must suffers from the lack of a proper VOIP for soloQ games, Laners look at their respective lanes, Junglers keep tabs on their counterpart, and Supports keep and eye on the whole game, our role isn't as mechanically, demanding as the others, and the timers that we must keep and eye on are bigger than the rest of the players, and so it's easier for Supports to become shot callers and IGL's however the lack of proper ways of in-game comunication really makes it hard for this aspect of the role to shine.

  • @TawhidHTurzo
    @TawhidHTurzo 5 років тому +5

    Make a video about how to team fight effectively.

    • @wildartfly
      @wildartfly 5 років тому

      Yeah so many people need this knowledge.

  • @cliff_hange7284
    @cliff_hange7284 4 роки тому +7

    Me as Yumii: Helps the Jungler in a gank cause he's my duo and that makes more sense than just staying in bot
    My Ad carry: I guess it's time to die

  • @brendanbush2174
    @brendanbush2174 5 років тому

    How would this work in lower elo? I want to get in the habit of roaming but I find it hard to do so as my adc rarely plays safe if I roam, I guess they feel like its their time to shine or something. Ive been trying to roam when the adc is gone and we had a push going, but its rare I get a lane thats pushed, an adc who either plays safe or is backed, a laner/jungler in need of a roam, or have enough resources to perform a successful roam, all at the same time.

  • @shamrock3957
    @shamrock3957 4 роки тому +1

    Support is far from the weak role, it's actually one of the most important and the most unappreciated role. People see their ADC going 20/3 and its always "wow great job ADC" no one see's or gives props to the support who's sweating their a** off and covered in blood to ensure that their ADC didn't die and did get fed. ADC does crap and its always the Support's fault, doesn't matter if the ADC refused to Kite, constantly overextended, failed to last hit 80% of the minions, refuses to keep moving and not stand still in the open against a Blitz. An ADC with a good support and is halfway competent will almost always get fed. The side with the better Sup almost always wins bot lane. And no I'm not a Sup main, usually play Mid, Sup is my secondary as well as ADC.

  • @bbeatsofficial6392
    @bbeatsofficial6392 3 роки тому +1

    Support role is one of the important roles that can make u win

  • @AM-we1es
    @AM-we1es 4 роки тому +2

    That thresh not picking up the soul behind the tower around 9:30 irks me

  • @zidro_8133
    @zidro_8133 5 років тому +1

    Hey I love your videos but can you do one about amumu or jungeling in general bcc ppl that I'm against watch you but don't jungle like you could tell us

    • @yovcheff
      @yovcheff 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/KTwbKfUnueU/v-deo.html

    • @zidro_8133
      @zidro_8133 5 років тому +1

      @@yovcheff thx m8 I haven't seen that one hope you get good lol luck

  • @hannneszoe
    @hannneszoe 2 роки тому

    my biggest problem is to make pressure as support cause I get under pressure ... how can I make this better?!
    Are there some basic tipps for this?

  • @FakeDessert
    @FakeDessert 3 роки тому

    Genuine question, as a support if i don't feed on bot lane and leave kills to the ADC so he's fed, how am I supposed to feed????

  • @kongchangfan2237
    @kongchangfan2237 3 роки тому +1

    what is that champion with that jetpack skin at 7:48 pls?

  • @soulc967
    @soulc967 4 роки тому +18

    And my adc insta rage quit for picking a zyra support :'D
    Cuz a supp can't be too strong and independent 🤣

    • @Blobster-ln2by
      @Blobster-ln2by 4 роки тому +1

      Soul C
      People don’t really like Mage Support picks
      Yeah they work but the adc’s prefer to be the one doing the damage and getting kills
      Edit: I’m not an adc main but I just know

    • @grantmorehead8691
      @grantmorehead8691 4 роки тому +2

      @@Blobster-ln2by as an adc main i would say id rather a mage support steal kills than a blitzcrank

  • @nobledonkey17
    @nobledonkey17 5 років тому +14

    I already know my 1st kids name Yasuo......because I'm sure he will let me down all the time

  • @DanielBJusto
    @DanielBJusto 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much, i will support your support! ❤️🙌🏻

  • @KingZZ0083
    @KingZZ0083 4 роки тому

    10:40
    That caught me off guard, and I was starting to zone out.

  • @bartekdmitruk5438
    @bartekdmitruk5438 5 років тому

    I really enjoy your videos, they're very helpful, appreciate it man

  • @kubix426
    @kubix426 3 роки тому

    I decided to play more support after getting an S- on Taric
    My team was mostly meh but my brother was ADC they couldn't have KDA more than 2, i had like 10,5 and my bro 20
    My vision score was 30 and i did 5k damage, (my jungler did 3k so yeah)
    I was so satisfied

  • @schwinnzhang1649
    @schwinnzhang1649 5 років тому

    love your analysis! it makes a lot sense to my playstyle as well.

  • @xMORHUHNx
    @xMORHUHNx 5 років тому

    As a support, how should I know who wins toplane in champions select? Many players doesn’t even know how work champions of other roles

  • @abdrahim2076
    @abdrahim2076 5 років тому +23

    How to win a 1v9 game
    I mean if ur team is feeding and dont know how to play the game

    • @alb9022
      @alb9022 5 років тому +2

      "and dont know how to play the game"
      Maybe fix this first then worry about "muh team"?

    • @shacolin6546
      @shacolin6546 5 років тому +19

      This game you'll probably lose, but you don't focus on that single game. You focus on your own performance through several games. If you do well consistently, you will climb because its always guaranteed there'll be at least one good player in your team, that being yourself.
      In that scenario, statistically speaking, chances of your team getting the worst player in the queue is 4/9 (roughly 45%) while that chance for the enemy team is 5/9 (roughly 55%). The tenth player being yourself, and assuming you are good enough to climb, you'll automatically become one of the best, if not the best, at the queue, and guaranteed to be in your team.
      That being said, for you to climb, you have to be consistent. There will be games you just can't win, that happens, but those are the exception, not the rule. Take them as minor set backs, and focus on the games you can win.

    • @TheMacmister
      @TheMacmister 5 років тому +2

      Al B he was saying that the team does not know how to play. Not that he does not know.

    • @kroneexe
      @kroneexe 5 років тому +1

      @@shacolin6546 This.

    • @Lamorakc
      @Lamorakc 5 років тому +1

      @@kroneexe I have no input in the conversation but I agree so I just write "this".

  • @dianahernandez452
    @dianahernandez452 5 років тому +3

    Ty! I’m a main suport Gold I and I hope this guide help me to reach Platinum

    • @wildartfly
      @wildartfly 5 років тому

    • @samch9031
      @samch9031 4 роки тому

      It will be helpful even into diamond. I'm plat 1 and even at plat 1 my ADC won't understand this concept.

    • @Sickowl6667
      @Sickowl6667 4 роки тому

      @@samch9031
      Just hesitated to reply to this thread since it's months old but IMO ,
      This video is basically a how to adc. If you main supp even if you're only gold, you already understand the majority of the video and master most of these tips.
      BUT an adc, even high plat still don't even get the most obvious things like, a supp is meant to supp a team, not an afk farming bot that gets caught 24/7 and yeah the support has more carry potential than most adcs
      If only ADCs would learn what a supp does life would be easier

  • @bearoyay
    @bearoyay Рік тому

    The most helpful tip is abandoning your ADC if they are too far behind. Youll give them solo xp and help get your other lanes kills before the enemy can snowball. The adc can snag kills in group fights and get back in. Staying with the adc after the lane is doomed just guarantees a loss.

  • @TheRaven715
    @TheRaven715 5 років тому

    FINALLY! THANK YOU PRO GUIDES!!! 😍😍❤❤

  • @butshewas2159
    @butshewas2159 5 років тому

    Love this useful guides pro guides! Keep it up!

  • @zazomy8629
    @zazomy8629 5 років тому

    FUCKING FINALLY! A SUPPORT MACRO GUIDE!

  • @Foxy-nt4gw
    @Foxy-nt4gw 5 років тому +1

    Where's the tier list???? :( i was waiting for it
    Will Qiyana be placed on A tier after the nerfs??

  • @serenamontelius5752
    @serenamontelius5752 4 роки тому

    I just need to know what I can do as a support if my ADC is a ward during laning phase, I mean, just playing safe and wait for a gank or trying to rotate when the laning phase is over? Because it's making me really upset that all my ADCS always end with "2/5/3" score and are abstent during all the match and I end up glued to the Yasuo 10/3/1 trying keeping him alive so we can win -_- and then the ADC blames me for not being with him, but If I stay with him I would be as useless as him 🥺

  • @loweloking88
    @loweloking88 4 роки тому

    Should Alistar roam or sit in lane?

  • @dahviper6731
    @dahviper6731 5 років тому +18

    ADC:*Dead*OMG!!! Why didn't you just use *insert skill here*
    Me:let him 1v2 for the rest of the game

    • @shiroreo5989
      @shiroreo5989 5 років тому

      @@johnbob9481 a tard ?

    • @johnbob9481
      @johnbob9481 5 років тому +1

      @@shiroreo5989 just by the fact u don't know what I mean by tard I don't want to talk with u or have u as support in game

    • @chavalomiguel5587
      @chavalomiguel5587 5 років тому

      What?

    • @shiroreo5989
      @shiroreo5989 5 років тому +1

      @@johnbob9481 looks like we have a toxic boi here lol

    • @shiroreo5989
      @shiroreo5989 5 років тому

      @@johnbob9481 i bet you arent diamond lmao XD

  • @Abc-hn5vz
    @Abc-hn5vz 4 роки тому

    How to win, pick hard CC and CC lock the strongest enemy champ. Be willing to trade you life for enemy carries. Never walk directly back to bot lane, start walking mid to give opportunities to act on opportunities across the map. Win lane win game only works if your lane partner is good enough to carry with lead, or you are playing a carry support like Brand.

  • @emarieschweikhardt7234
    @emarieschweikhardt7234 4 роки тому

    I don’t know if anyone has this problem, but in most of my games, the ADC just abandons bot lane, or nobody takes bot lane. This is very frustrating because I often find myself having to carry bot lane as a support against the other team’s ADC and support. Meanwhile, the two people that decided to be top laners sass me in the chat for being unable to carry. What is the point of playing support if you keep having to act as an ADC?

  • @ИлиянГеоргиев-д3я
    @ИлиянГеоргиев-д3я 5 років тому

    Yes, I, as a thresh support will make sure that i freeze the lane. Why didn't i think about that sooner???

  • @elentia
    @elentia Рік тому

    idk how to thank ya. this was sooo helpeful , thanks alot :)

  • @pianoclasesstgo6600
    @pianoclasesstgo6600 5 років тому +1

    Still waiting for the next "best 5 for low elo" mid or top, will there be a next one?? D:

  • @WhoaItsLauren
    @WhoaItsLauren 4 роки тому

    I was looking forward to this guide, but as a newer player, I do not understand what's going on bc I am ignorant to the terminology

    • @RaymondTywaif
      @RaymondTywaif 4 роки тому +1

      The channel basically covers pro guides with deeper analysis which means it's more cater to players who are familiar with the game and ready to take it further.
      The following message is kinda long but I hope it can be helpful for you, read if you're interested. :)
      Generally speaking, it's better for newer players to get more familiar with the game first, mainly (not in any particular order):
      - Positioning [Basic: the way you position yourself to deal/avoid damage | Pro: even include how to escape/initiate, how to trick enemies, flashes, blocking skillshots for your teammates, timing, how to hide in fog of war where enemies can't see you if not warded, last-hitting efficiently and safely]
      - Champions' Skills [Basic: how they deal/heal/shield damage and their effects, learn about skills' basic info of all champions | Pro: skills order and efficiency, timing, synergies, damage types, counters, scaling, resource (means mana/energy/heat/rage/etc) management]
      - Synergies [Basic: Synergize with your item builds for scaling and effects | Pro: synergize with other champions' skills like Ryze+Nunu/Neeko/Kennen's ult or crowd control chains (crowd control=cc, means effects that can stun/slow/silence/etc), item+skill synergies]
      - Counters/Wasted effects [Basic: Buy items that counter specific champions, like Grevious Wounds items against Vladimir/Mundo, understand that how some effects don't stack like Ashe's passive slow don't stack with Frozen Mallet/Iceborn Gauntlet's slow, Anivia/Nunu's slow don't stack with Rylai's slow, poison effect from multiple champions don't stack, unique passive of items don't stack, cooldown reduction(cdr in short) has a cap so over cap cdr from items is wasted unless you take a certain rune, mana items wasted on non-mana champions, etc | Pro: understand strengths and weaknesses of everything to know how to counter-play against all types of opponents with combined knowledge and accumulated experiences under different circumstances efficiently and effectively]
      - Item Builds [Basic: follow the recommended or meta builds without flexibility | Pro: Understand how to build and utilize counter or active items like Mercurial Scimitar against high cc opponents or Zhonya/Banshee if you're an AP champion that is highly targeted, and can go off-meta/unusual builds depending on team compositions or playstyles etc if they want to and can do well like AP Kai'sa/Ezreal/Malphite/Shyvana/Cho'Gath/Galio/Maokai, AD LeBlanc/Thresh, on-hit Neeko/TF/Kennen/Teemo/Vayne]
      I think new players can definitely try ARAM mode after getting more familiar with the basic concepts. ARAM has faster-paced shorter game-length for players to try different champions with synergies with your team and counters against enemy teams. You get to try off-meta unusual builds too that could be more useful in ARAM than SR mode, like AP Malphite/Shyvana/Maokai/Zac, Artillery AP Kai'sa/Kog'Maw/Lucian/Corki, Tanky Veigar/Vayne/Karma, Lethality Varus/Caitlyn/Jinx/MF. Most of the time in game, you also get to constantly and intensively practice how to position yourself (especially dodging skillshots), predict enemies' movements (because they are trying to dodge skillshots or engage), consistently cooperate/synergize with 4 other teammates, and compete with your teammates to get cs, etc.

    • @WhoaItsLauren
      @WhoaItsLauren 4 роки тому +1

      @@RaymondTywaif omg aw yay tysm I appreciate the advice!!!

    • @RaymondTywaif
      @RaymondTywaif 4 роки тому +1

      @@WhoaItsLauren You're welcome! I'm not pro enough to call my comment 'advice' but more like suggestions based on my years of experiences. I don't even play ranked or SR anymore because there are too many competitive yet toxic players that I'm too tired in life to deal with those stuff/people especially when I'm trying to have some fun with entertainment like gaming. AI mode in SR can be used for practising too but since AI are so predictable and don't really have human strategies, it gets boring and easy really fast and you don't get to polish your skills anymore after some time.

    • @WhoaItsLauren
      @WhoaItsLauren 4 роки тому

      @@RaymondTywaif yeah, the unnecessary toxicity sucks :( already having a rough night with back to back to back toxic players

    • @RaymondTywaif
      @RaymondTywaif 4 роки тому +1

      @@WhoaItsLauren At this point I'm already too lazy and tired to even respond to toxicity even though they still annoy me to some extent. I usually just mute/block them and move on to do my things that I know I'm doing right. The annoying feelings may linger for a while after the match but they always go away quickly for me. Those toxic people confuse me with their mentality especially those who apparently do so poorly yet still actively blame everyone else, I can't really tell if they're genuine or just trolls. My theory is that those toxic players either have low EQ or they are narcissistic. TBH, IMO, gaming attitudes we have and the roles we pick in the game can really show some signs/parts of people's personality. The general way to avoid toxic players is to play the game with people who you enjoy playing with, and who enjoy playing with you, and just add and invite each other to play together. Real-life friendships could even blossom too, for real.