So here's an exploit that wasn't mentioned. In early Kunark on live, you could do a /who search for named mobs to check if they were up. You could do that for anything, like Quillmane, Vox, Naggy, etc etc. Just type /who Name_of_mob and they would show up on the search as a player in the zone. Story time. I was in Dreadlands with two friends, looking for the dread widow. By clearing the PHs and doing /who a_dread_widow, eventually it popped up on who as something like a_dread_widow_43, 1 player found in zone. We knew the dread widow was up, but we couldn't find it. Assuming it was under the ground, we called a gm. A gm eventually arrived and confirmed that it was in the ground. We asked the gm to bring it up for us and they agreed to do so. While the gm was doing that, I was continually checking /who to see if it was still up. Then the unfortunate thing happened. I typo'd the who command as a say command, and the GM, who was visibly standing next to us, witnessed me typing /say /who a_dread_widow. I break out into a cold sweat. My friends in group chat are furiously asking me WTF I'm doing. A long silence passes. The GM says nothing to me and I say nothing to them. After several minutes, which were probably not required solely to bring the spider above ground, The spider is brought above ground and the GM leaves, saying nothing about my typo. The next patch, the exploit no longer worked. I was not banned or suspended for this. They probably knew about it to some extent, but I still feel guilty to this day.
It used to be, shortly after the Kunark expansion, that Necros could feign death and go afk in a spawn spot, and their pets would infinitely defeat the spawns, resulting in great afk experience for the Necro masters. I remember this being nerfed, and the great disappointment from my Necro friend that this tactic could no longer be used.
You could also command your pet while FD and just let him take all the agro, then pop up when hes almost dead and resummon and repeat or charm one of the mobs he was fighting and let that mob tank for a while. its how we broke most camps for years.
I remember taking my step Dad's gear off of his warrior and putting it on mine until he got home from work and then quickly giving it back. He was always amazed at how quickly I would level
I would strip my cousins warrior of the best equip, dump it in a bag in a corner of butcherblock and log his char out, log myself in and equip it all, then right before he got home from work would do the reverse and put it all back 🤣, pre velious. Wreaking havoc in crushbone without a group was awesome.
For a day or so after mass group buff was introduced you could MGB a group teleport on unsuspecting players. I played a druid at that time and was sending people to cobalt scar so my friend could show up and offer ( for a price ) a port beck.
In 2005 during the depths of darkhollow beta, SOE accidentally patched the Beta server tradeskill merchants onto the live servers for about 12 hours. It meant every ultra rare tradeskill item became purchasable in POK. The cleanup was a giant fustercluck, involving nuking character's inventories, and rollbacks that went on for over a week. Once in the 2004-2005 era, Mass Group Buff was bugged for a few weeks so the cool down didn't engage when you used it. Beastlords could roll their HOT/MOT/EOT spell as an MGB nonstop during raids.
Was eagerly waiting for this video! Glad to see Perry Lovewhistle got a shout out. Just found his channel recently and his let’s play has been helping the work hours flow by.
My best exploit was z-axis. I was a 50-something rogue, and I snuck into KC while VS was being raided. So you get to his chamber, and everyone is on the ground floor, but I'm a few floors up, looking down on the group and his corpse. My x and y coords put me next to VS's corpse, but my z coords were forty feet in the air.... but z-axis didn't matter then. >:) They spent so long deciding who would get what, the corpse went public, so I scooped everything I could, and snuck-crawled out. The shouting was legendary! Had to put that toon into cold storage for a few months before I could bring her online and sell those Tolan's Darkwood Greaves. Good money, that. ;)
One thing I thought of that wasn't mentioned was when beastlords first came out, their pet was a skill. You still had to cast its proc buff on it to make it stronger but you could chain cast pets mana free.
That is not all you could do. My husband's BL got ahold of some Puppet Strings, took it to Oasis, charmed a little bitty puma, leveled it to 60 and I put druid buffs on it... sow, DS, skin, regen. We zoned, came back and cried laughing at all the chaos that caused. "I'm level 30 and it's killing me!" or when it died, "what it drop?" ... "cat meat and a medium pelt." Very soon thereafter they changed the BL pets.
And when you cast the pet buff that makes it higher level it also had the effect of complete healing the pet. You'd essentially play the lower end of the game as a cleric to your pet. The dev's didn't nerf it for months. I suspect this was done on purpose to allow the population of max lvl BLs to grow quickly
@@IonBlaze1 wish I could get up for the game again..... But Mischief is too much of a pay to win. Hope the next TLP has a ruleset that will inspire me again! Maybe I'll toy with going back to MR... or whatever they are now. Are you at all active on Mangler still?
I played a ranger for most of my EQ time along with a mage. One of the biggest bugs that was quickly fixed was delay for ranger range attack was at near 0. After a few hours a few lucky rangers got to mow down a lot of mobs. The patch note mentioned Ranger "innoruuk machine gun" fixed.
@13:18 yes this happened for a brief time. People would make level 1 toons and do this to themselves intentionally in addition to trying to trick people into equipping them so they would just leave mounds of corpses.
I used to exploit pathing in Paludal Caverns and DSP when Luclin released. Could stand in 2 spots where you could just range down mobs without them ever reaching you
@6:00 Oh yes, having an enchanter haste and charm a player in their party that is armed with a weighted battle-axe destroyed mobs. When charmed you still would get the damage of the weighted battle axe and all the bonus damage due to the high delay but your actual melee speed was just the default NPC speed which meant you hit like a Mack truck every second and a half or so. If you managed to get in a few double attacks or a repost after a double attack....dropping mobs like they going out of style. Loved grouping with an enchanter and always had a weighted axe in a bag waiting to come out and play.
The number of exploits we found while playing on Phinny was crazy. The entire TLP experience has been greatly altered by these exploits. Some have already been mentioned, some others: People figured out how to claim armor bundles (Defiant Gear), Illusions, and buff mounts in Luclin era. My cleric had his 1000ish Mana and 15 mana regen mount that never got caught and reverted. When OoW was released the leveling process took less than 30mins to cap, we found a Pooka in I believe it was Tipt that hit for Deathtouches. We would charm this mob and the room prior to this had a full spawn of mobs that you can 1 shot and go back 1 more room kill an NPC which respawned the entire room, rinse and repeat. The GM's took the zone down while we were in the process of leveling, thankfully we had already hit level 69. SK's had mortal coil which had been nerfed but we found out that there was a monster mission with a 2hand sword with an insane ratio (like 6-7 expansions stronger) that we were able to get outside the MM and equip it on our normal SK. This didnt make for the happiest Pally's getting wrekt on the meters. With this weapon and the need to level to 85 I think, we found a quest in Loping Plains that would spawn like 15-20 mobs and could be infinitely spawned over and over. Well an SK with Mortal Coil, that 2 hander and a support group could kill these orcs by the hundreds at a time, max level was hit in about 45mins. In Luclin Emp SSRA could be pulled to the zone in, negating the need for keys and CC on the adds. In VT you could skip the entire zone and go right to AHR by dropping through the roof. You could pull mobs across the map using Mage Bolts through walls and just sacrificing the Mage. The list goes on and on.
I can't believe no one mentioned cheese. That was possibly the biggest plat exploit in EQ history. Shadowhaven wouldn't stop crashing from people doing that simple combine to vendor the result. (Cost was like 8 copper but vendor paid 1 plat or something crazy like that). No one mentioned cash drops being nerfed midway through almost every expansion either. Oh and Flynn's kinda wrong. Buffs weren't hard level capped until late Luclin. They tried to level cap the single spells but the group spells still hit. I remember level 1s getting KEI (or "C3" on some servers). KEI was a Luclin boss drop and most people couldn't get it until well into Luclin (not too many "casual guilds" eating Gravel Rain or Feeblemind). I thought it was cool how the entire EQ player base all hated the community manager (Gordon "Abashi" Wrinn) because he was SO arrogant and didn't even know what the players were even talking about.
The Buff nerf didnt truly happen till POP for two to three months after you could have lvl ones getting hit with the lvl 65 cleric and shammy an chanter buffs, which pissed off the devs seeing their content walked through an thus they patched in the lvl caps for buffs being 45 to receice lvl 60 buffs an i think it was 49 for the lvl 65 buffs but the lvl 50 buffs an beloo i beleave still worked on lvl 1's for awhile' sorry havent playing in over ten years just thought the topic was interesting think i still have a lvl 1 with unity or conviction hum hell i dont remeber the name of the 65 cleric buff but was good times
@@bubbles_7910 It was early Luclin and primarily based in Shadowhaven. You could make cheese that sold to vendors for more than its cost. As you might expect, that led to lots of bots parked at the vendor making SH a laggy mess. I'm pretty sure it was the food vendor two doors down from the port-in spire (on the right). Friend of mine says it was a 10 copper combine that sold to vendors for 1 gold.
@@Remianen That sounds right. I remember making cheese for days. My (now) ex had made fun of me for baking in the game until Luclin, then suddenly between the money I made and my low weight, high stat food for his monk, he also started baking.
My favorite noob troll was, as an enchanter, when you could still drop coin on the ground, drop a plat piece on the ground in front of a noob area, cast Minor Illusion, turn into that plat, pick up the plat, then watch noobs click on you.
Awesome Vid man! oh man the NERFS!! they fixed the "corpse warp bug" back in original EQ. Where you could loot anyone else's corpse by making an alt with the first 4 letters of their name, and giving yourself permission to loot their corpse. ... You'd then drag their corpse to a slightly different location, take all their non soulbound gear... and they would petition a GM, and get it all back. not a nerf i guess... but a fix. Good thing they did. :D
Kind of surprised you didn't mention damage shield Power Leveling. DS's were considered neutral damage so you would get one high level char with a DS (Ranger/Druid/Mage/Bard) aggro a handful of mobs with a high level (non-damage) spell/song to keep aggro and have the low level character do at least 1 point of damage. The high level char would then spam sit to allow them to get hit (since AC/avoidance are excluded while sitting). Let the DS do all the damage and the lower level char would get the XP. Could easily powerlevel a lvl 1 to 30 in Kurns in about 30-45 minutes. 1-50 could be achieved in a few hours.
I wish some older stuff was mentioned in this, like item recharging from vendors. (Yes this was an exploit) Along with the pre-nerf fungi. (Wouldn't say it was an exploit, but a really OP item)
It was during Luclin that the level limit nerf was introduced. I remember having a couple characters with KEI and other level 60ish buffs on them at level 1 and yeah, it made them amazing while the buffs lasted.
@@Remianen I had a character that got KEI and other buffs on, and I then didn't play for years. Logged the character back in, still had KEI, was a baby wizard with endless mana, was a lot of fun til the buffs wore off.
I remember one exploit that happened somewhere around November of 1999. There used to be a banker in Befallen. One day a bug/glitch cropped up which made the banker in Befallen exchange copper for plat on a 1:1 ratio. Turn 10pp into 1000 copper, then take that 1000 copper and when placed back into the platinum the banker would turn the 1000 copper into 1000 platinum. A few servers economy was completely wrecked, a few players got banned, and the banker in Befallen was removed. It is very difficult to find any information about this bug, but I remember as a new player trying to level up in west commonlands and seeing in chat as it was discovered.
Hahah, love the GF cat thing, hilarious. Great collaboration video. Really cool! I make some p99 videos. I have a manastone on my 60 druid (along with fungi and epic), it is indeed, broken.
I played on the Bristlebane Server and Played a Necro named Munchos Necrophilia…..I remember tracking down a prenerf COS, a Mana Stone, Mana Robe, Holgerish Eldar Beads, and being an endless mana Necro….I used to go in raids and follow the Chanters around giving them all of my mana…..my greatest accomplishment was getting one Shotted by Bertoxulus for pulling Aggro all because of mana allocation….loved that character so much
Awesome job. Nice to see you all working together making content for a game I love. I follow several of the you tubers but found some new ones to check out thanks to your video. Hope to see some more stuff like this. Maybe pick one other you tuber a week to discus an eq topic.
There was a pet specific agility buff that rolled out at the beginning of Gates of Discord. It was cast by druids as I recall. It allowed pets to crit every hit, often for multiple times regular damage, so a pet could do roughly 20 times their standard damage. It was in the game about two months before it was rebalanced. Not a glitch, per se, just a badly balanced buff that could be abused mercilessly. My clan successfully used it to get the Qvic flag, server first, with approximately 80% of the raid damage coming from pets, players accounted for the remaining 20%.
I was used the beam method for years beginning in SoD in field of scale pulling the entire center of the zone, all the dragons. Did so for years in different zones as expansions released before it was finally nerfed.
Hello sir. Thank you for using my video in this, I'm super proud to be in this video. This is Gorbie87 AKA Shadowdinah from p99 Blue. That clip was an uncontested Dain pull. I am Ally to Dain and I used a level 1 pet to pull him to the entrance. The pull was made clean by training everything to the bridge and having someone from my guild "tag" Dain out of the train. (we used instant clicky items like wooly spidersilk nets, etc) and I exploited the pathing to make the train go back into the castle to give our guild time to "tag" Dain cleanly into our camp. It was more pathing manipulation than pet manipulation.
Biggest exploit I remember was that you could build AA abilities into hotkeys. I played a Cleric on Erollisi Marr server and when Omens came out they introduced the "hammer" spam pet line for clerics. You could set a hotkey to trigger Mass Group Buff and then the hammer. The hammer would spawn but both abilities would "fail" to cast. I solo'd General Reparm in the Plane of Fire as a level 70 cleric by just chaining hammers as fast as I could hit the button at him since you could work your way around the recast time.
PvP only exploit that was nerfed - People would get max level in classic and get kitted out with high-end gear. Then they'd delevel down to a range where they could grief newbie zones. The thing was, if you had 200/200 1HS, you'd still have 200 1HS despite deleveling. This worked for all skills, including channeling, mend, etc. So there was literally no way to beat them. They hit so hard and never missed.
Pet Cannibalization nerf was big one. As a mage you used to be able to summon a pet with good mana saving armor and abilities (which means it costs less) then reclaim the pet and get back the FULL mana for that pet, which was effectively a boost. That was the basics. In practice, you would suspend your current pet, the cast a new one... eat it. Cast a new one... eat it. Keep doing that until your mana was full then Un-suspend the main buffed+equipped pet and start fighting again. It was AMAZING. There was also a major exploit with SHRINK plus an lllusion item like Skeleton illusion. You could shink, get very close to a wall/door... then turn into a full size Skeleton and walk right through the wall/door. Great for locked doors. That no longer works.
@@IonBlaze1 it was a buff when you got hit it healed you...I use to swarm 200 mobs in Mech Fort with a 92 sk...and not with raid armor....the good old days
Speaking on item level restrictions, some did exist even before Luclin, funny enough the item you used as an example Narandi's Lance was one of those (so maybe not the best example of level restriction items after Velious era! ) Though that said, a somewhat spooky timing of me watching this video, is that I had been playing on a emulated server that had custom tuned rates to make it more solo/small party friendly. Because it's quasi -classic (aimed at classic though goes up to beyond Luclin and Planes of Power), it has level restrictions items. However there is one item, I aimed to get myself which was a Narandi's Lance. I was speaking to someone in-game about the likely hood of gathering people for the Ring War, and we plan to do it this weekend.
The exploit that I miss the most was the ability to clip through locked doors that had no keys to them. What I would do as a ranger was to change myself into a wolf (or shrinking yourself twice also worked) then run against the door. While you're still running you would then click off the wolf effect and you'd be through the door. After this was nerfed the only way through these doors was to get a rogue or bard to pick the lock. I actually rolled a rogue just for this purpose. As it turned out though, I liked the rogue class a lot so it wasn't a total waste of time.
Afterlife woke the sleeper on our server Mithaniel Marr. Fun times it was! Could also use AoN and lev to get up into high places by spamming the amulet it would lift you higher and higher.
There was a map exploit in E commons along the wall to W commons zone. You ran up the wall and fell off the map and were teleported to the Freeport zone line. There was also the same bug in West commons by swimming into the zone map and falling
@@IonBlaze1 yep in west karana near North karana zone line if you swam out into the water you fell through the map and were teleported right at the Qeynos hills zone line!
Great video. I was one of them high end monks. I quit EQ because of that mitigation nerf to my character. Canceled my PoP preorders and moved to DAOC. Then DAOC nerfed left axe..... Ahhh!! I kept getting nerfed! Went to FFXI I think... then to WOW.
😢 I, also, know the agony and dwarven frustration surrounded by maining a druid during PoP release! Luclin's spires caused a hit too, but PoP eradicated "portplzkkthx" plat farming!
I follow Ion and recently red beard. Ion comes off very serious and red beard is more tongue in cheek. I enjoy both your styles even though they are opposite of each other. You two should work more together. I also watch AC gamer content but was not familiar with the other you tubers. Thanks for introducing them to me. Look forward to checking out their channels.
I was a Druid main back in the day. Then PoP launched and within 3 weeks I quit the game because I was no longer needed to port, which hurt my bank account. But what PoP also did that not a lot of people talk about is that it started the slow degradation of the server population actually needing to communicate or collaborate with one another.
I would be interested in top game game exploits, that were patched out. There was a amazing Plane of Storm charm one that myself and a mage ran for 6 months early POP expansion. This episode seemed to cover a few of them.
In plane of war, there were 2 factions of mobs, and if a druid charmed a war raven... had it fight mob on separate faction, then the druid would invis... drop the charm, the mobs would continue to fight. You'd then train as many mobs to the floor as possible and they'd all join in the fight between the two factions.... all players in the vicinity would get xp... as well as all drops. It was some bug that was quickly fixed, but I remember getting like 20 AA in less than an hour doing it.
I used to go to Qeynos, do the monk quest where I find the lost young monk. He follows me and helps me fight, so what I do is pull guards to the Monk guild hall, and attack the guards. The guards will attack back and the younk npc monk will join, which causes the entire Monk guild to help, more guards join, more Monks join. It never ends! Now people can not turn in quest, I loved doing this till the zone crashed.
There used to be a severe undercon NPC in Neriak arena that my chanter would charm and my cleric friend would do the heals. We would buff him to the max and even gave him stun whips. We would pass my friends mana stone between the two of us and completely destroy red con guards. we leveled from like 30 to 54 very quickly and made a ton of plat off fine steel. After they started going green I rolled a cleric and he rolled a chanter and we did the same thing just in opposite roles. It was clearly OP. There was also the dwarf vendor in OOT you could charm who would completely wreck seafurys.
What are you doing for the p99 community? So what if someone isn't a hard-core need that remembers 20 yesr old content, if he even played back then... truth is almost all the "elite players" of p99 couldn't hang back then, and just regurgitate tactics from back then, only they need Gina, wiki, and other crutches now.
@@steveolie985 I'm not doing a fucking thing for the p99 community, I'm also not playing on p99 and making comments about things I don't know shit about on Live like Perry is in this video. P99 doesn't even *have* Headshot.
I remember in classic our favorit group setup was for a long time almost always pure melee setup. Enc. Cleric, Rogue, Pally, Warrior+ random melee. Reason was the Haste bug were worn haste + casted haste was actually multiplied instead of added, which ment that just a swirlspine belt which I had on my Pally from one of our first Phini kill + Augmentation would always put you at haste cap. which made caster dps kinda pointless, as the augmentation buff is easy to maintain even on 4 melee chars. Pally was off healer to our chanter and rogue when they got unattended attenttion while cleric could concentrate on the tank. And I could recharge my cloak by selling/buying back to an empty vendor any time if I should burn my 1 charge Heal. There practically wasn't a camp in classic or Kunark we couldn't manage with ease. Wizards was really just seen as a mana hog. they burned their mana too fast and draw a lot of agro and wasted healers mana. If we needed some extra dps or evac we would take a necro/Druid along rather than a wizard. I can't remember when they finally fixed the haste bug but it was in for quite some time. Also loved the fact that old school chanter that watched their faction carefully could single pull Phinni as long as they did not get any faction hits in Kedge. Which also brings chanter pulling in Hate with wolform into mind. Loved the old days 😀
19:30 There is more to this... I had a cleric friend in Afterlife and got to watch AL take down The Avatar of War a few times (Afterlife's first and second AOW kills, I know the history where Legacy of Steel technically killed him first by cheesing him with mezzed city giant vendors). My main was a top tier warrior on another server and my cleric friend liked showing off Afterlife's awesomeness whenever I wasn't raiding... Anyways, when AOW was at like 35 percent Weihung (pretty sure that was his name) who was their warrior MT got taken down, and I was dumbfounded when Afterlife's top monk (forgive me I can't remember his name) stepped in to tank in place of another warrior. The monk lasted long enough on AOW long enough Weihung back up, buffed, and ready to finish the fight... I was so stunned by this (knowing all I thought I knew about the game) that I could see why they were the best guild in EQ in that era... No disrespect to Fires of Heaven or Legacy of Steel intended... That all being said, no monk should have been face tank the Avatar of War for 2-3 minutes at that time... Even if their monk had every best bit of gear in every slot at that time.
The druid to rogue conversion story sounds familiar. Sort of. I started a rogue during the Luclin era, and by PoP it was my main. But it wasn't really the port changes that did it, it was just that druids were significantly less desirable for their group roles than clerics and shamans. The port changes didn't bother me at all--I was way past caring about porting for cash. My rogue added far more cash farming capability than my druid doing ports anyway--just tank with the rogue and have the druid on a second box healing and buffing. I farmed enough plat on the cyclops island in OOT while leveling up my rogue to equip him for raiding using bazaar gear.
When playing the power came along Drewes were still incredibly important for all of the many places they could take you that there was no direct way otherwise. Additionally, there was very little said constructively awning the places that droods and wizards could teleport. Such as through magical barriers within a Zone. I just came up with that right this second. But it wouldn't be unlike plane of hate
I remember in Lguk when there was no mob limit to AE dmg OR stun, there would be groups of chanters, clerics, wizards with a tank pulling the whole zone and Perma stun/AE nuke everything. As a Necro I was so jealous.
the only exploit I ever participated in, and I had no idea it was an exploit, was fearing mobs in OT near Skyfire ent, when they ran into the wall they never turned around, this was the first couple days when Kunark first launched on live, a GM came on and told us to stop
This is too coincidental. I played a Shadow Knight named Rhazerguul on Mangler. That must be my character during the endless mana part of the video lol.
I miss the old days (early days) of this game. My Cleric would smack the heck out of undead and my Necro would farm so dam much. Bards back in the day were the kite masters but the Necro class as the top of DoTs! I started playing EverQuest when it first came out. Those were some fun days.
In everquest 2 they had a crafting "issue" that let me create infinite number of adept 3 spells. It kept me rich for years until they did a complete revamp of the crafting system.
about 4 weeks into the servers going live, the necros on Tarew marr figured out that the lifetaps were unresisitable. So about 10 of us spent a few days giant hunting and did such a massive jump in level on the server that that the devs noticed and subsequently nerfed real fast. It was kinda too late though because most of us were months ahead of the rest of the server which caused alot of Ebay problems when we hit LG.
Not sure if others are aware but after the end of being able to charm PCs on red servers you could still perform this on blue servers. If you were able to convince someone to duel you, it was then possible to charm them as an enc. You could continually do this as long as the person did not zone, die, or DC. Crazy times.
I hadn't played Everquest since 2008, admittedly, I don't remember much of it and I am interested in getting back into it, but the UI and such overwhelms me quite a bit. lol I still play Everquest II at times and even it's UI overwhelms me, too many skills, too many skillbars needed.
I was a top 20 tank game-wide about 5 years or so between SH and TRC. Science of war/Precision Strike Tyrik/Tarrik. God that game was addicting but my job killed my raid time so I sadly had to stop. Best exploit I remember was some random bank NPC that got placed in Najeena that only duped money. It totally screwed the value of plat for a good year. Think it happened between GoD and the next that had the 2.0's in it.
i remember talking with my best friend many years ago about our friend who passed away, and the silly things he did in everquest. The one that stood out to us the most was Dire charming Corudoth in iceclad ocean so he could solo lodi. ^.^ ahh good times, i dont think he can he affected by DC anymore though
With respect to the headshot nerf, my ranger used to gather up a horde of level appropriate mobs, then use the level 73 Vinelash Cascade. It is a conal root that left the mobs snared when it wore off. You could essentially keep the horde frozen indefinitely. Then, I would just plunk them until I headshot. I would even cast Arc of Arrows, which was a frontal cone of arrows, so they counted as bow damage thereby sometimes triggering a headshot. My favorite spot was the Field of Scale in the SoD expansion. I'd pull 30, 40 even 50 mobs, and kill them all in 5 minutes or so. Honestly, I always thought it was amazing that it hadn't been nerfed, and when it was, I was not shocked at all. However, in typical EQ fashion, they didn't just tweak it to remove the overpowered nature of it. They set it on fire and then blew it up with dynamite. It's almost not even worth buying at this point. One other nerf they did semi-recently (I play on TLP, so I don't know about live) was the taunt nerf. You used to be able to a) taunt through walls and b) when you taunted, the mob would not social agro. So, my SK (with his pre-nerf CoS) could invis up to a mob, taunt and run away invis, and as long as I didn't lose invis long enough to agro anything else, I could pull a single mob halfway across the zone solo. When we were doing VT keys, I could pull one of the two warriors in the front area in FG all the way back to the tunnel camp spot solo. Now you can't taunt through walls, and now they social agro no matter what. That one hurt.
Thank for sharing Doug. I got real bummed about the taunt pulling. Tanks pull better than bards/monks in some zones. Real fun to pull on a tank in Unrest, Karnors, Hole, Griegs but it's gone now.
I used to do the same thing with vinelash and arc in Plane of Fire. I’d gather all the mobs in the castle and get them in a huge line and headshot them down. Great fun!
I know this is an old video, but I just came across your channel. Way back in the day when dual core processors came out, you were able to travel at unheard of speeds. West Karana in less than 30 seconds. In order to not get banned, you had to manually go in to your system settings and run EQ through a single core.
You didn't talk about swapping weapons during the swing animation. I was really hoping to see that one. A bug that I encountered back in the day (and it was repeatable on p99 for a time) was being able to "cook" your money in the public trade skill kiln. Good times. Oh. And froglok skipping stone. Best thrown item ever.
I left EverQuest after a period of multiple dupe exploits, but my greatest achievement was breaking the Holy Trinity by creating a new, scalable group structure based on pet classes, primarily mages. The idea was to have pet only groups, with the pets all locked (I forget the exact term) in a small area. One Mage would run in a loop, pulling into the pet nucleus, the pets would attack and hold aggro, while the casters would stand outside the nucleus and alternate between healing pets, recasting pets, and raining down death from above. The group not only didn't require tanks or healers, but scaled up and down easily, as pet classes could join and leave the group at any time, and the group would adjust by increasing or decreasing the pull rate. It meant that the group never had to break up just because a critical member left the party. I was an accomplished Mage on my server, but Sony's wretched responses to a series of duplication bugs, which each "solution" creating a new duplication bug, made it impossible for me to continue contributing to the developers' salaries. I was Razamatazz of the Ancient Fellowship, and I miss EverQuest, but I refuse to pay the developers' salaried.
@@IonBlaze1 Thank you. It has been over a decade since I really thought much about EverQuest, except as a lesson to avoid MMO's (my issues, not theirs, I don't have as much time, and prefer games in person for what time I do have).
Buff level limit was either luclin or pop as I recall everyone paying heaps for KEI (60 luclin spell) on level ones. Leveled up a few myself was soooo good
My brother is the reason EQ made it so where large items wouldn’t drop from your inventory if you didn’t have room after a trade He’d create a low level character and act astonished when he saw a wrymslayer. Ask to see it in trade. Once it’s in there ask about other gear to fill up space. Cancel trade, take wyrmslayer and log out
The most valuable "exploit" I know of was on Xev server - or maybe Druzzil Ro - where a dev had modified the loot tables of sharks in freeport (maybe qeynos) to drop 10 million platinum. Those who looted would be stuck in place due to the weight of the platinum. They had to ask for others' help and the secret didn't last for more than a day or so. A big rollback occurred as a result and I think a statement was made about it too.
Folk seem to fixate on rangers being "ranged" but they were modelled on Tolkein's rangers in Lord of The Rings who were not ranged fighters but good trackers
During luclin there was an archery bug that lasted for one day after a patch that reduced all bow delay to 0 as long as you were above the target. I had a warrior at that time and bought hundred of arrows and they'd run out in a second. À ranger with endless quiver on m'y server soloed avatar of war with that bug. It was hot fixed the dame day.
I made a level 1 ranger and saw others doing it. We were able to use level 92 bow. I was killing mobs left and right in FOB . Experience was great until they ultimately fixed it about a month later on.
Hell yea. In Kunark my friend played a druid, I had a wizard, however I started an Iksar monk. Fungi, t staff, fbss, my wiz had a spare ring of ancients i dd MQ to get monk lvl 1 jboots, unfortunately, I never had a SoD, I played on Lnys T'Vyl, and Conquest were the first to kill all warders and wake sleeper. Theres a vid of them doing it and they used an exploit where they all got banned. I'd like to see yours, lol. Anyway, Protection of the Glades, druid group buff, would cast on any lvl, w/ lvl 60 dmg shield, it made my lvl1 monk lvl 40 instantly. Great memories, my wiz was lol 35 when Kunark came out. Ugh I remember all these was great times.
Man seeing these old items brings back memories. I sold two scepter's for, hell, I think I sold one for like 800 bucks, not even kidding. We had so many extra items. But seeing the other items here from guk and the other places, wow, memories. Just found out my old guild (Fires of Heaven) still actually exists in EQ which astounded me. Now then, you may be wondering how the hell I was able to get two of those. Well... we pretty much perfected item duping and used zone walls to do it. This of course wasn't without danger as Furor was caught and banned on his original char but, overall, it was pretty impossible to track. That was the big exploit I recall.
You guys forgot to talk about the other nerf to mod rods. They didn't always have level limits. A low lvl druid new to the game running around in East Commons who was handed a high-level mod rod and was told "Right click lick that for mana" died the moment they did. I fell for that twice because I didn't understand what a mod rod was or what was happening.
I'll try to reply to as many comments as I can within the first day.
Can't wait to see the finished produce! Thanks for putting this together. You're an awesome creator.
@@Twelvestrings thank you Twelvestrings. Got some footage of your rogue in there.
So here's an exploit that wasn't mentioned. In early Kunark on live, you could do a /who search for named mobs to check if they were up. You could do that for anything, like Quillmane, Vox, Naggy, etc etc. Just type /who Name_of_mob and they would show up on the search as a player in the zone.
Story time. I was in Dreadlands with two friends, looking for the dread widow. By clearing the PHs and doing /who a_dread_widow, eventually it popped up on who as something like a_dread_widow_43, 1 player found in zone. We knew the dread widow was up, but we couldn't find it. Assuming it was under the ground, we called a gm. A gm eventually arrived and confirmed that it was in the ground. We asked the gm to bring it up for us and they agreed to do so. While the gm was doing that, I was continually checking /who to see if it was still up.
Then the unfortunate thing happened. I typo'd the who command as a say command, and the GM, who was visibly standing next to us, witnessed me typing /say /who a_dread_widow. I break out into a cold sweat. My friends in group chat are furiously asking me WTF I'm doing. A long silence passes. The GM says nothing to me and I say nothing to them. After several minutes, which were probably not required solely to bring the spider above ground, The spider is brought above ground and the GM leaves, saying nothing about my typo.
The next patch, the exploit no longer worked. I was not banned or suspended for this. They probably knew about it to some extent, but I still feel guilty to this day.
So your girlfriend went behind your back and got a cat knowing you were allergic? That's a really f'd up thing to do to your partner....
Eh yeah but jokes on her. It loves me more
Very excited to see the final product. Thank you for including me, Ion Blaze. Was an honor.
Thank you Redbeardflynn. Your part had great style.
It used to be, shortly after the Kunark expansion, that Necros could feign death and go afk in a spawn spot, and their pets would infinitely defeat the spawns, resulting in great afk experience for the Necro masters. I remember this being nerfed, and the great disappointment from my Necro friend that this tactic could no longer be used.
Oh that's a sweet tactic. Thank you for sharing Augustus
You could also command your pet while FD and just let him take all the agro, then pop up when hes almost dead and resummon and repeat or charm one of the mobs he was fighting and let that mob tank for a while. its how we broke most camps for years.
I remember taking my step Dad's gear off of his warrior and putting it on mine until he got home from work and then quickly giving it back. He was always amazed at how quickly I would level
I would strip my cousins warrior of the best equip, dump it in a bag in a corner of butcherblock and log his char out, log myself in and equip it all, then right before he got home from work would do the reverse and put it all back 🤣, pre velious.
Wreaking havoc in crushbone without a group was awesome.
For a day or so after mass group buff was introduced you could MGB a group teleport on unsuspecting players. I played a druid at that time and was sending people to cobalt scar so my friend could show up and offer ( for a price ) a port beck.
Excellent video! Very well put together. Thank you for doing this my friend. Turned out even better than I expected (and I expected great things!)
Thank you Redbeard :)
In 2005 during the depths of darkhollow beta, SOE accidentally patched the Beta server tradeskill merchants onto the live servers for about 12 hours. It meant every ultra rare tradeskill item became purchasable in POK. The cleanup was a giant fustercluck, involving nuking character's inventories, and rollbacks that went on for over a week.
Once in the 2004-2005 era, Mass Group Buff was bugged for a few weeks so the cool down didn't engage when you used it. Beastlords could roll their HOT/MOT/EOT spell as an MGB nonstop during raids.
The loot one item on the pvp only lasted a few months. I played on Vallon Zek for years
And it’s awesome hearing AC gamer again!
Was eagerly waiting for this video! Glad to see Perry Lovewhistle got a shout out. Just found his channel recently and his let’s play has been helping the work hours flow by.
That's awesome! I just found perry through this video as well.
Thank you for that one suggestion about the tunic.
Thanks! Glad it's making the work grind a little easier!
I want to say buffs were scaled to level around SoL or PoP but I may be mistaken, either way those 24 pt d.s. Was crazy
My best exploit was z-axis.
I was a 50-something rogue, and I snuck into KC while VS was being raided.
So you get to his chamber, and everyone is on the ground floor, but I'm a few floors up, looking down on the group and his corpse. My x and y coords put me next to VS's corpse, but my z coords were forty feet in the air....
but z-axis didn't matter then. >:)
They spent so long deciding who would get what, the corpse went public, so I scooped everything I could, and snuck-crawled out.
The shouting was legendary! Had to put that toon into cold storage for a few months before I could bring her online and sell those Tolan's Darkwood Greaves. Good money, that. ;)
That's some real Rogue life, in action.
One thing I thought of that wasn't mentioned was when beastlords first came out, their pet was a skill. You still had to cast its proc buff on it to make it stronger but you could chain cast pets mana free.
That's a good one. I had completely forgotten it was a skill not a spell.
Thank you for sharing that Michael.
That is not all you could do. My husband's BL got ahold of some Puppet Strings, took it to Oasis, charmed a little bitty puma, leveled it to 60 and I put druid buffs on it... sow, DS, skin, regen. We zoned, came back and cried laughing at all the chaos that caused. "I'm level 30 and it's killing me!" or when it died, "what it drop?" ... "cat meat and a medium pelt." Very soon thereafter they changed the BL pets.
And when you cast the pet buff that makes it higher level it also had the effect of complete healing the pet. You'd essentially play the lower end of the game as a cleric to your pet. The dev's didn't nerf it for months. I suspect this was done on purpose to allow the population of max lvl BLs to grow quickly
Loved the vid!
Thanks for broadening my EQ library on UA-cam!
Cheers,
Felixx
Awesome! Blaze was great in making this happen.
Thank you Felixx. Miss you man
@@IonBlaze1 wish I could get up for the game again..... But Mischief is too much of a pay to win. Hope the next TLP has a ruleset that will inspire me again!
Maybe I'll toy with going back to MR... or whatever they are now. Are you at all active on Mangler still?
@@bernatzmark not playing right now but I'll check out the new servers in May
Thanks for the great video. and the shout out on the credits!
Thank you for helping make it japenjosh
I played a ranger for most of my EQ time along with a mage. One of the biggest bugs that was quickly fixed was delay for ranger range attack was at near 0. After a few hours a few lucky rangers got to mow down a lot of mobs. The patch note mentioned Ranger "innoruuk machine gun" fixed.
@13:18 yes this happened for a brief time. People would make level 1 toons and do this to themselves intentionally in addition to trying to trick people into equipping them so they would just leave mounds of corpses.
I used to exploit pathing in Paludal Caverns and DSP when Luclin released. Could stand in 2 spots where you could just range down mobs without them ever reaching you
@6:00
Oh yes, having an enchanter haste and charm a player in their party that is armed with a weighted battle-axe destroyed mobs. When charmed you still would get the damage of the weighted battle axe and all the bonus damage due to the high delay but your actual melee speed was just the default NPC speed which meant you hit like a Mack truck every second and a half or so. If you managed to get in a few double attacks or a repost after a double attack....dropping mobs like they going out of style.
Loved grouping with an enchanter and always had a weighted axe in a bag waiting to come out and play.
Haha that is a silly playstyle on pvp. Thank you for that mjs
The number of exploits we found while playing on Phinny was crazy. The entire TLP experience has been greatly altered by these exploits. Some have already been mentioned, some others: People figured out how to claim armor bundles (Defiant Gear), Illusions, and buff mounts in Luclin era. My cleric had his 1000ish Mana and 15 mana regen mount that never got caught and reverted. When OoW was released the leveling process took less than 30mins to cap, we found a Pooka in I believe it was Tipt that hit for Deathtouches. We would charm this mob and the room prior to this had a full spawn of mobs that you can 1 shot and go back 1 more room kill an NPC which respawned the entire room, rinse and repeat. The GM's took the zone down while we were in the process of leveling, thankfully we had already hit level 69. SK's had mortal coil which had been nerfed but we found out that there was a monster mission with a 2hand sword with an insane ratio (like 6-7 expansions stronger) that we were able to get outside the MM and equip it on our normal SK. This didnt make for the happiest Pally's getting wrekt on the meters. With this weapon and the need to level to 85 I think, we found a quest in Loping Plains that would spawn like 15-20 mobs and could be infinitely spawned over and over. Well an SK with Mortal Coil, that 2 hander and a support group could kill these orcs by the hundreds at a time, max level was hit in about 45mins. In Luclin Emp SSRA could be pulled to the zone in, negating the need for keys and CC on the adds. In VT you could skip the entire zone and go right to AHR by dropping through the roof. You could pull mobs across the map using Mage Bolts through walls and just sacrificing the Mage. The list goes on and on.
I can't believe no one mentioned cheese. That was possibly the biggest plat exploit in EQ history. Shadowhaven wouldn't stop crashing from people doing that simple combine to vendor the result. (Cost was like 8 copper but vendor paid 1 plat or something crazy like that). No one mentioned cash drops being nerfed midway through almost every expansion either. Oh and Flynn's kinda wrong. Buffs weren't hard level capped until late Luclin. They tried to level cap the single spells but the group spells still hit. I remember level 1s getting KEI (or "C3" on some servers). KEI was a Luclin boss drop and most people couldn't get it until well into Luclin (not too many "casual guilds" eating Gravel Rain or Feeblemind). I thought it was cool how the entire EQ player base all hated the community manager (Gordon "Abashi" Wrinn) because he was SO arrogant and didn't even know what the players were even talking about.
Never heard about that Plat exploit. Thank you for the info Remianen
The Buff nerf didnt truly happen till POP for two to three months after you could have lvl ones getting hit with the lvl 65 cleric and shammy an chanter buffs, which pissed off the devs seeing their content walked through an thus they patched in the lvl caps for buffs being 45 to receice lvl 60 buffs an i think it was 49 for the lvl 65 buffs but the lvl 50 buffs an beloo i beleave still worked on lvl 1's for awhile' sorry havent playing in over ten years just thought the topic was interesting think i still have a lvl 1 with unity or conviction hum hell i dont remeber the name of the 65 cleric buff but was good times
where and when was the cheese exploit? which city / vendor / recipe was used? I never saw that one used
@@bubbles_7910 It was early Luclin and primarily based in Shadowhaven. You could make cheese that sold to vendors for more than its cost. As you might expect, that led to lots of bots parked at the vendor making SH a laggy mess. I'm pretty sure it was the food vendor two doors down from the port-in spire (on the right). Friend of mine says it was a 10 copper combine that sold to vendors for 1 gold.
@@Remianen That sounds right. I remember making cheese for days. My (now) ex had made fun of me for baking in the game until Luclin, then suddenly between the money I made and my low weight, high stat food for his monk, he also started baking.
My favorite noob troll was, as an enchanter, when you could still drop coin on the ground, drop a plat piece on the ground in front of a noob area, cast Minor Illusion, turn into that plat, pick up the plat, then watch noobs click on you.
Haha that's a silly way to troll people
Giving newbs 20k copper and then watch as they couldn’t move lol.
@@4gbmeans4gb61 just out of reach of the banker
Awesome Vid man! oh man the NERFS!! they fixed the "corpse warp bug" back in original EQ. Where you could loot anyone else's corpse by making an alt with the first 4 letters of their name, and giving yourself permission to loot their corpse. ... You'd then drag their corpse to a slightly different location, take all their non soulbound gear... and they would petition a GM, and get it all back. not a nerf i guess... but a fix. Good thing they did. :D
What? That is nuts! Thank you for sharing SGT Kheldare
Kind of surprised you didn't mention damage shield Power Leveling. DS's were considered neutral damage so you would get one high level char with a DS (Ranger/Druid/Mage/Bard) aggro a handful of mobs with a high level (non-damage) spell/song to keep aggro and have the low level character do at least 1 point of damage. The high level char would then spam sit to allow them to get hit (since AC/avoidance are excluded while sitting). Let the DS do all the damage and the lower level char would get the XP. Could easily powerlevel a lvl 1 to 30 in Kurns in about 30-45 minutes. 1-50 could be achieved in a few hours.
*forgot to mention to keep your back facing the mobs to avoid riposte if you have it
Didn't hear about that David. Thank you for sharing.
Maybe because it hasn't been nerfed and still works? Just an idea.
Ummm this isn't a nerfed, I do this today.
Mercs are the main reason I came back to play the game. That and a TLP server called Mischief.
I wish some older stuff was mentioned in this, like item recharging from vendors. (Yes this was an exploit) Along with the pre-nerf fungi. (Wouldn't say it was an exploit, but a really OP item)
Oh I forgot about those dang. Thank you for bringing them up.
I like the original pre nerfed circlet of shadows. I could single pull anything with it
the pre-nerf circlet of shadow was incredible. It does eventually get replaced with AA's so the ability does live on but it is much later.
It was during Luclin that the level limit nerf was introduced. I remember having a couple characters with KEI and other level 60ish buffs on them at level 1 and yeah, it made them amazing while the buffs lasted.
That is a crazy powerful way to level a character dang. Thank you for the extra info Beau
And they lasted 3+ hours before AA. That made it great (or awful, depending on your perspective). 😊
@@Remianen I had a character that got KEI and other buffs on, and I then didn't play for years. Logged the character back in, still had KEI, was a baby wizard with endless mana, was a lot of fun til the buffs wore off.
I remember one exploit that happened somewhere around November of 1999. There used to be a banker in Befallen. One day a bug/glitch cropped up which made the banker in Befallen exchange copper for plat on a 1:1 ratio. Turn 10pp into 1000 copper, then take that 1000 copper and when placed back into the platinum the banker would turn the 1000 copper into 1000 platinum. A few servers economy was completely wrecked, a few players got banned, and the banker in Befallen was removed.
It is very difficult to find any information about this bug, but I remember as a new player trying to level up in west commonlands and seeing in chat as it was discovered.
Hahah, love the GF cat thing, hilarious. Great collaboration video. Really cool!
I make some p99 videos. I have a manastone on my 60 druid (along with fungi and epic), it is indeed, broken.
Thank you for watching & the compliments Minnie
I played on the Bristlebane Server and Played a Necro named Munchos Necrophilia…..I remember tracking down a prenerf COS, a Mana Stone, Mana Robe, Holgerish Eldar Beads, and being an endless mana Necro….I used to go in raids and follow the Chanters around giving them all of my mana…..my greatest accomplishment was getting one Shotted by Bertoxulus for pulling Aggro all because of mana allocation….loved that character so much
Awesome job. Nice to see you all working together making content for a game I love. I follow several of the you tubers but found some new ones to check out thanks to your video. Hope to see some more stuff like this. Maybe pick one other you tuber a week to discus an eq topic.
Reminder set! I'll see you guys there!
Rangers!!!
Headshot in 2022 is better than Headshot has ever been, l2p.
Great video, and thanks to all the other content creators! Love your stuff guys
There was a pet specific agility buff that rolled out at the beginning of Gates of Discord. It was cast by druids as I recall. It allowed pets to crit every hit, often for multiple times regular damage, so a pet could do roughly 20 times their standard damage. It was in the game about two months before it was rebalanced. Not a glitch, per se, just a badly balanced buff that could be abused mercilessly.
My clan successfully used it to get the Qvic flag, server first, with approximately 80% of the raid damage coming from pets, players accounted for the remaining 20%.
I was used the beam method for years beginning in SoD in field of scale pulling the entire center of the zone, all the dragons. Did so for years in different zones as expansions released before it was finally nerfed.
Ahhh i was wondering about the next video. Excellent, love this topic and your videos are always well researched, looking forward to it.
Thank you Ehlias. All the info came from the community. Gold mine of info
Hello sir. Thank you for using my video in this, I'm super proud to be in this video. This is Gorbie87 AKA Shadowdinah from p99 Blue. That clip was an uncontested Dain pull. I am Ally to Dain and I used a level 1 pet to pull him to the entrance. The pull was made clean by training everything to the bridge and having someone from my guild "tag" Dain out of the train. (we used instant clicky items like wooly spidersilk nets, etc) and I exploited the pathing to make the train go back into the castle to give our guild time to "tag" Dain cleanly into our camp. It was more pathing manipulation than pet manipulation.
Biggest exploit I remember was that you could build AA abilities into hotkeys. I played a Cleric on Erollisi Marr server and when Omens came out they introduced the "hammer" spam pet line for clerics. You could set a hotkey to trigger Mass Group Buff and then the hammer. The hammer would spawn but both abilities would "fail" to cast. I solo'd General Reparm in the Plane of Fire as a level 70 cleric by just chaining hammers as fast as I could hit the button at him since you could work your way around the recast time.
PvP only exploit that was nerfed - People would get max level in classic and get kitted out with high-end gear. Then they'd delevel down to a range where they could grief newbie zones. The thing was, if you had 200/200 1HS, you'd still have 200 1HS despite deleveling. This worked for all skills, including channeling, mend, etc. So there was literally no way to beat them. They hit so hard and never missed.
Pet Cannibalization nerf was big one. As a mage you used to be able to summon a pet with good mana saving armor and abilities (which means it costs less) then reclaim the pet and get back the FULL mana for that pet, which was effectively a boost. That was the basics.
In practice, you would suspend your current pet, the cast a new one... eat it. Cast a new one... eat it. Keep doing that until your mana was full then Un-suspend the main buffed+equipped pet and start fighting again. It was AMAZING.
There was also a major exploit with SHRINK plus an lllusion item like Skeleton illusion. You could shink, get very close to a wall/door... then turn into a full size Skeleton and walk right through the wall/door. Great for locked doors. That no longer works.
The biggest nerfs were when they nerfed swarming...beaming...head shots and decap...and the clerics shining armor buff...about 7 years ago...
What is clerics shining armor?
I think you'll like the video then?
@@IonBlaze1 it was a buff when you got hit it healed you...I use to swarm 200 mobs in Mech Fort with a 92 sk...and not with raid armor....the good old days
It's interesting to me they actually had to nerf bard swarming twice. Once for the aoe songs and again for AOE songs + Vainglorious AA years later.
Speaking on item level restrictions, some did exist even before Luclin, funny enough the item you used as an example Narandi's Lance was one of those (so maybe not the best example of level restriction items after Velious era! ) Though that said, a somewhat spooky timing of me watching this video, is that I had been playing on a emulated server that had custom tuned rates to make it more solo/small party friendly. Because it's quasi -classic (aimed at classic though goes up to beyond Luclin and Planes of Power), it has level restrictions items. However there is one item, I aimed to get myself which was a Narandi's Lance. I was speaking to someone in-game about the likely hood of gathering people for the Ring War, and we plan to do it this weekend.
The exploit that I miss the most was the ability to clip through locked doors that had no keys to them. What I would do as a ranger was to change myself into a wolf (or shrinking yourself twice also worked) then run against the door. While you're still running you would then click off the wolf effect and you'd be through the door. After this was nerfed the only way through these doors was to get a rogue or bard to pick the lock. I actually rolled a rogue just for this purpose. As it turned out though, I liked the rogue class a lot so it wasn't a total waste of time.
this nerf still enrages me to this day
Afterlife woke the sleeper on our server Mithaniel Marr. Fun times it was! Could also use AoN and lev to get up into high places by spamming the amulet it would lift you higher and higher.
There was a map exploit in E commons along the wall to W commons zone. You ran up the wall and fell off the map and were teleported to the Freeport zone line. There was also the same bug in West commons by swimming into the zone map and falling
Oh didn't know about that. Thank you Nate
@@IonBlaze1 yep in west karana near North karana zone line if you swam out into the water you fell through the map and were teleported right at the Qeynos hills zone line!
Great video. I was one of them high end monks. I quit EQ because of that mitigation nerf to my character. Canceled my PoP preorders and moved to DAOC. Then DAOC nerfed left axe..... Ahhh!! I kept getting nerfed! Went to FFXI I think... then to WOW.
😢 I, also, know the agony and dwarven frustration surrounded by maining a druid during PoP release! Luclin's spires caused a hit too, but PoP eradicated "portplzkkthx" plat farming!
always enjoy these sorts of videos, lots of perspectives and all were valid.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you Jason
I follow Ion and recently red beard. Ion comes off very serious and red beard is more tongue in cheek. I enjoy both your styles even though they are opposite of each other. You two should work more together. I also watch AC gamer content but was not familiar with the other you tubers. Thanks for introducing them to me. Look forward to checking out their channels.
@@RBull-on7ug Really appreciate this comment! I've had a blast working with Ion Blaze so far, he knows his stuff and he's very eager to assist.
@@RBull-on7ug thank you for your insight. Appreciate the different perspective.
I was a Druid main back in the day. Then PoP launched and within 3 weeks I quit the game because I was no longer needed to port, which hurt my bank account.
But what PoP also did that not a lot of people talk about is that it started the slow degradation of the server population actually needing to communicate or collaborate with one another.
I would be interested in top game game exploits, that were patched out. There was a amazing Plane of Storm charm one that myself and a mage ran for 6 months early POP expansion. This episode seemed to cover a few of them.
Thank you for watching Jedward
Was wondering when we were going to see this video! Can't wait.
You helped make it. For one of the nerfs, you were the only one who mentioned it so I gave you full credit in the top left hand of the video.
In plane of war, there were 2 factions of mobs, and if a druid charmed a war raven... had it fight mob on separate faction, then the druid would invis... drop the charm, the mobs would continue to fight. You'd then train as many mobs to the floor as possible and they'd all join in the fight between the two factions.... all players in the vicinity would get xp... as well as all drops. It was some bug that was quickly fixed, but I remember getting like 20 AA in less than an hour doing it.
I used to go to Qeynos, do the monk quest where I find the lost young monk. He follows me and helps me fight, so what I do is pull guards to the Monk guild hall, and attack the guards. The guards will attack back and the younk npc monk will join, which causes the entire Monk guild to help, more guards join, more Monks join. It never ends! Now people can not turn in quest, I loved doing this till the zone crashed.
There used to be a severe undercon NPC in Neriak arena that my chanter would charm and my cleric friend would do the heals. We would buff him to the max and even gave him stun whips. We would pass my friends mana stone between the two of us and completely destroy red con guards. we leveled from like 30 to 54 very quickly and made a ton of plat off fine steel.
After they started going green I rolled a cleric and he rolled a chanter and we did the same thing just in opposite roles. It was clearly OP.
There was also the dwarf vendor in OOT you could charm who would completely wreck seafurys.
Headshot is amazing for farming xp in current live EQ.
Yeah, Perry's obviously p99 trash that hasn't been near a live server in years and is just repeating what he's been told.
What are you doing for the p99 community? So what if someone isn't a hard-core need that remembers 20 yesr old content, if he even played back then... truth is almost all the "elite players" of p99 couldn't hang back then, and just regurgitate tactics from back then, only they need Gina, wiki, and other crutches now.
@@steveolie985 I'm not doing a fucking thing for the p99 community, I'm also not playing on p99 and making comments about things I don't know shit about on Live like Perry is in this video. P99 doesn't even *have* Headshot.
I remember in classic our favorit group setup was for a long time almost always pure melee setup. Enc. Cleric, Rogue, Pally, Warrior+ random melee. Reason was the Haste bug were worn haste + casted haste was actually multiplied instead of added, which ment that just a swirlspine belt which I had on my Pally from one of our first Phini kill + Augmentation would always put you at haste cap. which made caster dps kinda pointless, as the augmentation buff is easy to maintain even on 4 melee chars. Pally was off healer to our chanter and rogue when they got unattended attenttion while cleric could concentrate on the tank. And I could recharge my cloak by selling/buying back to an empty vendor any time if I should burn my 1 charge Heal. There practically wasn't a camp in classic or Kunark we couldn't manage with ease. Wizards was really just seen as a mana hog. they burned their mana too fast and draw a lot of agro and wasted healers mana. If we needed some extra dps or evac we would take a necro/Druid along rather than a wizard. I can't remember when they finally fixed the haste bug but it was in for quite some time.
Also loved the fact that old school chanter that watched their faction carefully could single pull Phinni as long as they did not get any faction hits in Kedge. Which also brings chanter pulling in Hate with wolform into mind. Loved the old days 😀
Jfc I forgot about headshot. Brb, calling my therapist.
19:30 There is more to this... I had a cleric friend in Afterlife and got to watch AL take down The Avatar of War a few times (Afterlife's first and second AOW kills, I know the history where Legacy of Steel technically killed him first by cheesing him with mezzed city giant vendors). My main was a top tier warrior on another server and my cleric friend liked showing off Afterlife's awesomeness whenever I wasn't raiding...
Anyways, when AOW was at like 35 percent Weihung (pretty sure that was his name) who was their warrior MT got taken down, and I was dumbfounded when Afterlife's top monk (forgive me I can't remember his name) stepped in to tank in place of another warrior. The monk lasted long enough on AOW long enough Weihung back up, buffed, and ready to finish the fight... I was so stunned by this (knowing all I thought I knew about the game) that I could see why they were the best guild in EQ in that era... No disrespect to Fires of Heaven or Legacy of Steel intended... That all being said, no monk should have been face tank the Avatar of War for 2-3 minutes at that time... Even if their monk had every best bit of gear in every slot at that time.
The druid to rogue conversion story sounds familiar. Sort of. I started a rogue during the Luclin era, and by PoP it was my main. But it wasn't really the port changes that did it, it was just that druids were significantly less desirable for their group roles than clerics and shamans. The port changes didn't bother me at all--I was way past caring about porting for cash. My rogue added far more cash farming capability than my druid doing ports anyway--just tank with the rogue and have the druid on a second box healing and buffing. I farmed enough plat on the cyclops island in OOT while leveling up my rogue to equip him for raiding using bazaar gear.
What an awesome collab!!!
Thank you Seionne
@@IonBlaze1 no thank you! I truly appreciate what you're doing. This game means so much to me and it's all about the friends we make
gf gets a cat when you're alergic? easy fix, new gf. that's some wild "I dgaf about you" vibes lol
We pronounce It "Loose-Lin" in Sydney Australia. Rhymes with 'noose pin'
Wow that's dumb 😂
Amazing as always. Can't wait for more videos
Thank you for the compliment Philippe
When playing the power came along Drewes were still incredibly important for all of the many places they could take you that there was no direct way otherwise. Additionally, there was very little said constructively awning the places that droods and wizards could teleport. Such as through magical barriers within a Zone. I just came up with that right this second. But it wouldn't be unlike plane of hate
I remember in Lguk when there was no mob limit to AE dmg OR stun, there would be groups of chanters, clerics, wizards with a tank pulling the whole zone and Perma stun/AE nuke everything. As a Necro I was so jealous.
Didn't even need a tank, with lguk's pathing, just cast fear
Yep, we did this on Tholuxe.. was the first group to 60s.
the only exploit I ever participated in, and I had no idea it was an exploit, was fearing mobs in OT near Skyfire ent, when they ran into the wall they never turned around, this was the first couple days when Kunark first launched on live, a GM came on and told us to stop
This is too coincidental. I played a Shadow Knight named Rhazerguul on Mangler. That must be my character during the endless mana part of the video lol.
I miss the old days (early days) of this game. My Cleric would smack the heck out of undead and my Necro would farm so dam much. Bards back in the day were the kite masters but the Necro class as the top of DoTs! I started playing EverQuest when it first came out. Those were some fun days.
In everquest 2 they had a crafting "issue" that let me create infinite number of adept 3 spells. It kept me rich for years until they did a complete revamp of the crafting system.
about 4 weeks into the servers going live, the necros on Tarew marr figured out that the lifetaps were unresisitable. So about 10 of us spent a few days giant hunting and did such a massive jump in level on the server that that the devs noticed and subsequently nerfed real fast. It was kinda too late though because most of us were months ahead of the rest of the server which caused alot of Ebay problems when we hit LG.
Not sure if others are aware but after the end of being able to charm PCs on red servers you could still perform this on blue servers.
If you were able to convince someone to duel you, it was then possible to charm them as an enc. You could continually do this as long as the person did not zone, die, or DC. Crazy times.
I hadn't played Everquest since 2008, admittedly, I don't remember much of it and I am interested in getting back into it, but the UI and such overwhelms me quite a bit. lol
I still play Everquest II at times and even it's UI overwhelms me, too many skills, too many skillbars needed.
Yeah the UI is pretty daunting. You might want to try the new servers in May. Starting in classic is easier to pick up.
I remember at LEAST in Luclin getting high level buffs for noob chars, so it was definitely further along than that.
I was a top 20 tank game-wide about 5 years or so between SH and TRC. Science of war/Precision Strike Tyrik/Tarrik. God that game was addicting but my job killed my raid time so I sadly had to stop. Best exploit I remember was some random bank NPC that got placed in Najeena that only duped money. It totally screwed the value of plat for a good year. Think it happened between GoD and the next that had the 2.0's in it.
i remember talking with my best friend many years ago about our friend who passed away, and the silly things he did in everquest. The one that stood out to us the most was Dire charming Corudoth in iceclad ocean so he could solo lodi. ^.^ ahh good times, i dont think he can he affected by DC anymore though
With respect to the headshot nerf, my ranger used to gather up a horde of level appropriate mobs, then use the level 73 Vinelash Cascade. It is a conal root that left the mobs snared when it wore off. You could essentially keep the horde frozen indefinitely. Then, I would just plunk them until I headshot. I would even cast Arc of Arrows, which was a frontal cone of arrows, so they counted as bow damage thereby sometimes triggering a headshot. My favorite spot was the Field of Scale in the SoD expansion. I'd pull 30, 40 even 50 mobs, and kill them all in 5 minutes or so.
Honestly, I always thought it was amazing that it hadn't been nerfed, and when it was, I was not shocked at all. However, in typical EQ fashion, they didn't just tweak it to remove the overpowered nature of it. They set it on fire and then blew it up with dynamite. It's almost not even worth buying at this point.
One other nerf they did semi-recently (I play on TLP, so I don't know about live) was the taunt nerf. You used to be able to a) taunt through walls and b) when you taunted, the mob would not social agro. So, my SK (with his pre-nerf CoS) could invis up to a mob, taunt and run away invis, and as long as I didn't lose invis long enough to agro anything else, I could pull a single mob halfway across the zone solo. When we were doing VT keys, I could pull one of the two warriors in the front area in FG all the way back to the tunnel camp spot solo. Now you can't taunt through walls, and now they social agro no matter what. That one hurt.
Thank for sharing Doug. I got real bummed about the taunt pulling. Tanks pull better than bards/monks in some zones. Real fun to pull on a tank in Unrest, Karnors, Hole, Griegs but it's gone now.
Except Headshot is better in 2022 than it was during Darkhollow.
I used to do the same thing with vinelash and arc in Plane of Fire. I’d gather all the mobs in the castle and get them in a huge line and headshot them down. Great fun!
I know this is an old video, but I just came across your channel. Way back in the day when dual core processors came out, you were able to travel at unheard of speeds. West Karana in less than 30 seconds. In order to not get banned, you had to manually go in to your system settings and run EQ through a single core.
You didn't talk about swapping weapons during the swing animation. I was really hoping to see that one.
A bug that I encountered back in the day (and it was repeatable on p99 for a time) was being able to "cook" your money in the public trade skill kiln. Good times.
Oh. And froglok skipping stone. Best thrown item ever.
I left EverQuest after a period of multiple dupe exploits, but my greatest achievement was breaking the Holy Trinity by creating a new, scalable group structure based on pet classes, primarily mages.
The idea was to have pet only groups, with the pets all locked (I forget the exact term) in a small area. One Mage would run in a loop, pulling into the pet nucleus, the pets would attack and hold aggro, while the casters would stand outside the nucleus and alternate between healing pets, recasting pets, and raining down death from above.
The group not only didn't require tanks or healers, but scaled up and down easily, as pet classes could join and leave the group at any time, and the group would adjust by increasing or decreasing the pull rate. It meant that the group never had to break up just because a critical member left the party.
I was an accomplished Mage on my server, but Sony's wretched responses to a series of duplication bugs, which each "solution" creating a new duplication bug, made it impossible for me to continue contributing to the developers' salaries.
I was Razamatazz of the Ancient Fellowship, and I miss EverQuest, but I refuse to pay the developers' salaried.
Thank you for that info Anton. Did not know you could do that on mages. Crazy strategy.
@@IonBlaze1 Thank you. It has been over a decade since I really thought much about EverQuest, except as a lesson to avoid MMO's (my issues, not theirs, I don't have as much time, and prefer games in person for what time I do have).
What was better, was in live early on lifetap was unresistable.. we had groups of lvl 16 -20 necros in the oasis farming sand giants.
Buff level limit was either luclin or pop as I recall everyone paying heaps for KEI (60 luclin spell) on level ones. Leveled up a few myself was soooo good
Watching this for Project quarm so stoked to use these hahaha
I borrowed a 2nd SOD from a friend and was dual wielding them in Velks. people were not happy with me.
My brother is the reason EQ made it so where large items wouldn’t drop from your inventory if you didn’t have room after a trade
He’d create a low level character and act astonished when he saw a wrymslayer. Ask to see it in trade. Once it’s in there ask about other gear to fill up space. Cancel trade, take wyrmslayer and log out
The most valuable "exploit" I know of was on Xev server - or maybe Druzzil Ro - where a dev had modified the loot tables of sharks in freeport (maybe qeynos) to drop 10 million platinum. Those who looted would be stuck in place due to the weight of the platinum. They had to ask for others' help and the secret didn't last for more than a day or so.
A big rollback occurred as a result and I think a statement was made about it too.
I remember that. Rumor was it was one or more dev's trying to make an extra buck selling plat on ebay
Nec 49 pet with FS daggers just shredded everything
Folk seem to fixate on rangers being "ranged" but they were modelled on Tolkein's rangers in Lord of The Rings who were not ranged fighters but good trackers
I don't know what the fuck Perry is smoking, Headshot in 2022 is better than Headshot has ever been at any point in time.
During luclin there was an archery bug that lasted for one day after a patch that reduced all bow delay to 0 as long as you were above the target. I had a warrior at that time and bought hundred of arrows and they'd run out in a second. À ranger with endless quiver on m'y server soloed avatar of war with that bug. It was hot fixed the dame day.
Wowza, that's a bad error. Thank you for sharing Vairau
I made a level 1 ranger and saw others doing it. We were able to use level 92 bow. I was killing mobs left and right in FOB . Experience was great until they ultimately fixed it about a month later on.
Hell yea. In Kunark my friend played a druid, I had a wizard, however I started an Iksar monk. Fungi, t staff, fbss, my wiz had a spare ring of ancients i dd MQ to get monk lvl 1 jboots, unfortunately, I never had a SoD, I played on Lnys T'Vyl, and Conquest were the first to kill all warders and wake sleeper. Theres a vid of them doing it and they used an exploit where they all got banned. I'd like to see yours, lol. Anyway, Protection of the Glades, druid group buff, would cast on any lvl, w/ lvl 60 dmg shield, it made my lvl1 monk lvl 40 instantly. Great memories, my wiz was lol 35 when Kunark came out. Ugh I remember all these was great times.
Thank you for sharing your experience Viscerator. That's a cool story about the sleeper
Saryrn server shoutout! 2000-2005 Necros for life!
Do you say it "knee cro?"
@@IonBlaze1 We didn't but other servers might have. 😂
Saryrn server here as well. I played from 2001 to 2007 :)
"Vay-lee-us", dear lord butcher Velious more holy shit lol
The biggest exploit in EQ history was the server that actually woke the Sleeper first (Lany's T'vyl)
Man seeing these old items brings back memories. I sold two scepter's for, hell, I think I sold one for like 800 bucks, not even kidding. We had so many extra items. But seeing the other items here from guk and the other places, wow, memories. Just found out my old guild (Fires of Heaven) still actually exists in EQ which astounded me. Now then, you may be wondering how the hell I was able to get two of those. Well... we pretty much perfected item duping and used zone walls to do it. This of course wasn't without danger as Furor was caught and banned on his original char but, overall, it was pretty impossible to track. That was the big exploit I recall.
You guys forgot to talk about the other nerf to mod rods. They didn't always have level limits. A low lvl druid new to the game running around in East Commons who was handed a high-level mod rod and was told "Right click lick that for mana" died the moment they did. I fell for that twice because I didn't understand what a mod rod was or what was happening.
I was under thI can remember getting some redonkulous cleric and shammy buffs at POK that were nerfed.
I like how they nerfed headshot and assassinate but gave berserkers the same ability with no humanoid requirement or back attack requirement.
Crash zones, with the scroll item from FV - great for raid farming :D