C8 ZR1 Killer!? The Mustang GTD putting GM on notice! Where will the C8 Z06 fall with GM laps?

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  • @dbmracing2019
    @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому +4

    Do yall think the C8 ZR1 will beat this time??

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Місяць тому +1

      I think it would but Ford isn’t done with the Ring. They’ll ne back next year.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @ They have already said “there’s more in this car” so it will be exciting to see what they manage to get out of this car

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast 29 днів тому

      @@dbmracing2019 It’s so nice that both GM and Ford has some serious performance cars. I wonder who can publish a laptime first for 2025. ZR1 is without a doubt a sub 7 minute, can’t wait.

    • @osos231
      @osos231 29 днів тому +1

      With 200hp more on top it will.

    • @ezpz4659
      @ezpz4659 29 днів тому +1

      @@dbmracing2019 Bro was driving the balls off the car

  • @allemem1
    @allemem1 26 днів тому +2

    My family have been GM guys through and through for 4 generations. Every 6-7 years I buy another new GM performance car, build it to my liking, get it out of the garage on nice weekends, sell it, then repeat. Right now, I have a '24 Z06 3LZ parked in my garage. It is the craziest car that I've owned and I've built some gnarly cars. Custom grind cams, headers, catless, coilovers, professional weight reduction, etc.. I am not hating on the GTD, but it is a ~$325,000 vehicle. You could buy two of my Z06's and still have a nice stack left over for mods or whatever your heart desires. For me, I'm not impressed. The Z06's 7:10 is not official and when the ZR1 is released, it is supposed to start at approximately $180k according to sources. I guarantee it stomps the GTD.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  26 днів тому +1

      @@allemem1 you and I are very similar…. My C8 Z06 is my first GM performance car and it’s truly next level even compared to the Shelby’s. Video on that coming very soon!

  • @10SecondZ06
    @10SecondZ06 Місяць тому +8

    GM needs to step it up. We should have an official time for the Z06 by now.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому +3

      @@10SecondZ06 Agreed!

    • @enriquegascon6378
      @enriquegascon6378 Місяць тому +1

      @@10SecondZ06 GTD is the top Dog for Ford , the C8 ZR1 is the top dog for Chev. That's the true challange .

    • @pdn0018
      @pdn0018 Місяць тому +2

      Z06 is 7:10. Official

    • @Luke-cb3ly
      @Luke-cb3ly Місяць тому +3

      @@pdn0018 It is not official, the time of 7:10 was made by the magazine and engineers. There was no record attempt made by a professional pilot.

    • @pdn0018
      @pdn0018 29 днів тому

      @ Christian Gebhardt set it and he has also set times for #12, 19, 21, 23, 29, 32, 34, 36, 37, 41, 45, and 48 fastest times on the track. I think he’s qualified as a professional

  • @ghidorahthetruealpha6198
    @ghidorahthetruealpha6198 29 днів тому +4

    Mustang GTD is impressive: I have owned both Corvettes and Mustang GT500, so I can be totally objective. That's a cooking time around that dangerous 'Ring.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@ghidorahthetruealpha6198 Smoking fast time! Legit fast

  • @maromyers964
    @maromyers964 28 днів тому +4

    Mustang needs to step it up c8 zr1 will kill this crap at cheaper price looks and tech. This is 300k chicken shit

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому +1

      @@maromyers964 Yah the price is almost crazy at that price for a “Mustang”

  • @vipdriver5457
    @vipdriver5457 28 днів тому +2

    It is not an American production car. It is a Canadian modified limited edition car. At least the sledgehammer was modified by American companies.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @@vipdriver5457 This is truth! GREAT POINT!

    • @BruceDragon-sf1tr
      @BruceDragon-sf1tr 27 днів тому

      Put your crack pipe down, that Mustang has a Ford engine and it's a Mustang. Every car maker use other companies to build their vehicles.

  • @KSaw777
    @KSaw777 29 днів тому +4

    Even if the C8 Z06 is a little slower around the track it's still way better looking. haha

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому +1

      @@KSaw777 I agree! The last few generation of Mustang are what have really turned me off from a Ford standpoint. I have always been a Mustang guy but the newer generations do not look as good and are much heavier. The Shelby GT350 and the 2020 GT500 are the last mustangs I have any interest in. My C8 Z06 looks sooooooo good…. And the performance is crazy

    • @maromyers964
      @maromyers964 28 днів тому +3

      It's kinda crazy if you ask me. Z06 is half the price, amazing mid engine motor, better tech plus N/A.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @ I won’t argue with you on my Z06! The looks alone!!

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@dbmracing2019people keep dogging on the Z06 not being as fast as a GT3 or the RS. I always comment back, "Imagine a Z06 with gearing that tops out at 195 mph and some actual weight loss." I wish GM did, but understand why they didn't.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @ I agree with you….. Brandon dropped weight to 3400 lbs and pulled off a 6.17 second 60-130

  • @Niagrafalls
    @Niagrafalls 24 дні тому +3

    Well Chevy has already been asked about that time and the zr1 was doing its run, they said..the new time is coming..🤷🏾...we'll c.

  • @kel50pp
    @kel50pp 29 днів тому +3

    I'm a Ford guy, but I believe the ZR-1 is capable because of physics and aerodynamics. There was a reason why GM went mid engine like the Ford GT. If the Mustang goes mid-engine it will be more than capable of dealing with the Corvette or Porsche for that matter!

    • @briansalisbury5760
      @briansalisbury5760 26 днів тому +1

      @@kel50pp You had a mid engine called the GT40 at around $250,000 and it barely stayed with the Z06. I highly doubt FORD will spend the money to build a mid engine now. Besides you seem so confident that FORD is just going to go Mid-engine and beat Chevy, GM invented the magnetic suspension, and the normally aspirated flat plane crank engine that produces 670 HP. Two engineering marvels and breakthroughs. What break through in either technology has FORD come up with in the last 40 years or more? Give me an intelligent answer.

    • @rockychessie
      @rockychessie 23 дні тому

      Who cares.

  • @enriquegascon6378
    @enriquegascon6378 Місяць тому +4

    C8 ZR1 ISN'T SWEATING IT ! And for half the price .

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому +1

      @@enriquegascon6378 I feel the same way!

    • @DesertRunner602
      @DesertRunner602 Місяць тому +3

      Yup. You are correct. Also, the ZR1 will be easier to obtain.

    • @JeffBronstein
      @JeffBronstein Місяць тому +1

      The Z06 only did 7:10 and the GTD lap was overcast.... better shoot for 7:40.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @ Yah the GTD will be even harder to get than the Ford GT was

    • @daves913
      @daves913 25 днів тому

      @@enriquegascon6378 half the price? 🤣. Dealership mark up, will make it close to 400k. 😂

  • @2020matrix8
    @2020matrix8 Місяць тому +3

    Man, I’m not gonna lie.
    I am really hoping Ford will make a mid engine Mustang one day. if they do I’m owning one.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@2020matrix8 As long as they can make it still LOOK like a Mustang. I’ve always been a Mustang guy prior to my C8 Z06 and I wouldn’t mind another reboot of the Ford GT as well with more accessibility

    • @2020matrix8
      @2020matrix8 27 днів тому +1

      @@dbmracing2019 yes yes yes an affordable version of the Ford GT would be ideal

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @ Mmmmhmmmmm…… I would buy that. The Ford GT is SEXY…… every generation of that car

  • @joem7755
    @joem7755 Місяць тому +3

    To me that thing looks Fugly.. wing, car, wheels.. GMs got nothing to worry about. On the flip side if they limit production it and with the cost it could be a good collectors item for the ballers out there. Im flat broke for the E-ray coming in a few days. The Rims you talked me into are still being made.. I just hope they are not too light that will crush like a soda can hitting a bump.. Im sure a layer of ceramic coat will keep it from deforming .....much 🤔🤔

  • @MixedGrid
    @MixedGrid 29 днів тому +2

    What? It ran the same time as the segmented time from the C7 ZL1 on worse tires, which had half the MSRP. 😂 I think Ford has another bit to gain from a damp track, but enough to be better than a V8 ZL1? That's a bit of a dream as far as I'd believe.

  • @JerryCecco
    @JerryCecco Місяць тому +2

    So you believe this Mustang is a 100% stock GTD (not a ringer)...the exact same way retail GTD ? (I'll wait for C&D lightning laps)

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @@JerryCecco I haven’t seen anything yet to say it isn’t but I’m still digging
      Lightning lap is my favorite yardstick honestly

    • @JerryCecco
      @JerryCecco Місяць тому

      @@dbmracing2019 I don't believe Ford. What if Ford is lying, what happens.....NOTHING In 2016 Ford suppressed Randy to release Laguna Seca laptimes of GT350

  • @RenielBeltran
    @RenielBeltran Місяць тому +2

    Sin temor a equivocarme el C7 ZR1 ISO un tiempo no oficial de 6 57 con un pilo no oficial también y el vídeo del C8 Z06 creo que podía exigirle un poco mas

  • @erichaley4485
    @erichaley4485 27 днів тому +3

    Funny how the headline reads,"ZR1 Killer" like comparing a factory production vehicle built by the factory compared to a full on racecar built by multimatic. Make that a $300,000 car built by a tuner. That's not a flex. So you Ford fanboys can't pop your collar

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @@erichaley4485 LOL. That was great! Made me laugh this morning. You make some good points

    • @kel50pp
      @kel50pp 14 днів тому +1

      I don't give a dam if multimatic assembles the car it's still a Ford I don't care what it costs. Pratt Miller had a whole lot to do with the new ZR1 development especially high-speed aero development they build race cars too. Don't get it twisted!!

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  14 днів тому

      @ Excellwnt point! Thanks

    • @kel50pp
      @kel50pp 14 днів тому

      C7 and C8 racing Corvettes have been going well over 200 mph for years now, Pratt and Miller!! Multimatic, Ford GT La Mans winner. So I don't want to hear that Multimatic BS!!

  • @marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744
    @marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744 11 днів тому

    I was sitting here thinking about the lap time that the Shelby GT350 laid down it was 7 minutes and 32 seconds 34 seconds separate these two cars One car was flat plane crank while the other has a bigger chassis with a cross-plane crank just imagine if the GT350R was equipped with the transaxle from the GTD it would have murdered that track time And remember the GT350R produces 5 26 horses I hate to say it because I'm truly a Ford fan but for dropped the ball on this one they had an Golden goose in the GT350 but let a rare opportunity like this car went by but I'm still proud of them performing at this level where the air is rare for a muscle car

  • @charleswhite5482
    @charleswhite5482 28 днів тому +1

    The C8 ZR1 is faster in straights, the power to weight ratio is also in the ZR1s favor. The real question is can it break as hard and corner as fast. I think no doubt it will be sub 7 minutes on the nurburgring, I just don't know if it can edge out the GTD. On the other hand you have to ask yourself, why would I buy a GTD when I can buy two C8 ZR1s for the same price? GTD $325,000, C8 ZR1 $160,000. The gap needs to be as least 5-8 sec to even argue the price difference is justified. From somone who put 2,000 track miles on a C7 ZR1 ZTK I can tell you the new one will be hard to beat. I do daily drive a Dark Horse so I'll be happy no matter what car comes out on top. 🇺🇸

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @@charleswhite5482 I would love official GM lap times! Cmon GM

  • @johnperkins6432
    @johnperkins6432 Місяць тому +1

    I dont know if it will. But i look at it this way. It took $100,000.00 more to shave about 7 seconds off the Z06 time. And for most of us, that's just dumb. But yes, it is an impressive time.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @@johnperkins6432 that’s a good way to look at it!

  • @ChristopherCognetta
    @ChristopherCognetta 29 днів тому +1

    It was raining and traction was limited, they believe it will still hit 6.4s the target is the GT3

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@ChristopherCognetta Everyone in the Ford camp went on record saying there’s “more in the car”. They have a lot confidence it’ll go faster

    • @zeuscasey
      @zeuscasey 29 днів тому +1

      they better hope so, it has 300+more hp then the gt3

    • @jeffwill4923
      @jeffwill4923 29 днів тому +1

      No, lap was in August. They tried again in last September when AMG ONE lapped but track was not good. AMG GT BS 6:48 lap was done on a damp track. Where straits were damped. I just rewatched the lap several times.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @ Did you watch their video “Road to the Ring”? It’s really good actually

  • @mrb6144
    @mrb6144 29 днів тому +1

    I’ll wait for after market parts to trickle down for the regular mustangs

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому +1

      @@mrb6144 Now THAT would be quite interesting if some of the GTD stuff made it to the aftermarket

  • @thomascardillo7099
    @thomascardillo7099 28 днів тому +1

    No, GM does not have a problem. This Mustang is actually a GT3 race car and cost $325,000. If the ZR1 Corvette costs 50% more than what it's going to be and was not as good of a performance car as the GTD, then GM would have a problem.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @@thomascardillo7099 Excellent point! Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @jasonmareno5394
    @jasonmareno5394 27 днів тому +2

    Well you gotta deal with theC8 ZR1 Zora silly will be 1300hp so good luck

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @@jasonmareno5394 I agree. I’m excited to see what happens when ZR1 hits the Ring

  • @24seawolfZ06
    @24seawolfZ06 29 днів тому +1

    Agree with all your points, David!👍 WTF doesn’t Chevy seem serious about putting in the effort to push for the best Nurburgring times! Seems to me they take a very nonchalant attitude when it comes to Ring performance. Unlike Ford, who were totally committed to putting it all out there to get a sub 7 minute performance out of the GTD. They chose the nest driver who knows the course and practiced for hours on the simulator so that he was totally prepared to give it his best effort. Ok, I feel better now that I got my rant in!😂

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@24seawolfZ06 hahahah. Yeah… Ford did it right… maybe we will get times when they go back with ZR1? Ford put them on notice and went all out like you said!

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@dbmracing2019hope so, or all that testing we see them doing would be silly. It will be interesting to see the contrast in times but also the speed on the straight. A ZTK car hit 200 at Milford from a 20 roll in 1.2 miles, but the car is hot when it hits the straight at The Ring. Wish Jim Mero was still on the team or we'd see a bonsai lap for sure.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @ yah Jim Mero put in some hero laps over the years! And the speed on the straights with that 1064 hp should be legit insane

  • @SoerenSpreng
    @SoerenSpreng Місяць тому +2

    Hi, just to make it clear the guy who drove the Mustang over the Nürburgring he is German. He know what he did because he knows the track like many other Germans and it was only this car on the track without public.
    The Z06 is for sure is not slower if you put a German raising driver in the seat and not an American Driver without experience for this track
    GM made everything wrong
    Ford made everything right that’s the only difference

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@SoerenSpreng Ford certainly out GM on notice….. I hope we get official GM times now. One can only hope

  • @jacobotten3535
    @jacobotten3535 27 днів тому +1

    gtd is a specialty car with only applicants can buy. zr1 is fair game. Not in the same boat.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @@jacobotten3535 Good points! I’m excited to see what comes out of this! Thanks!

    • @daves913
      @daves913 25 днів тому

      @@jacobotten3535 dealership markup will be close to $400,000.

  • @mrb6144
    @mrb6144 29 днів тому +1

    I like it a lot but, 400k is crazy

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@mrb6144 That’s a lot of $$ for sure! Think of what that money would buy you

  • @kel50pp
    @kel50pp 29 днів тому +1

    Plus the GTD is LIMITED to 202 mph, adjust the aerodynamic algorithms and take the limiter off and see what it does!!

  • @JerryCecco
    @JerryCecco Місяць тому +1

    Which GTD parts are on a NEW 2024 Mustang GT?

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @@JerryCecco Not many at all… that’s a good point. Completely different car

    • @JerryCecco
      @JerryCecco Місяць тому +2

      @@dbmracing2019 Why call it a Ford? Multimatic built it Why call it a Mustang if it has no Mustang parts. A lot of people (including me) wasting time taking about a car that has no impact of retail Mustang cars.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @ It’s not a Mustang from the point of parts and neither is the Mach E but that didn’t stop ford from calling that a Mustang either

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Місяць тому +1

      @@JerryCeccoheadlights, tail lights, the whole damn interior? The whole chassis. It’s a mustng but built differently. Chevy guys are so pissed that a “mustang” did it first.

    • @JerryCecco
      @JerryCecco 29 днів тому

      @@voodoodiecast Ring GTD has different seats, the passenger seat looks like carbon fiber and it has a roll bar (also not stock) These 2 things I'm sure are for safety

  • @chevydan13
    @chevydan13 Місяць тому +1

    There are more tracks in the world then just the Ring.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@chevydan13 I actually really like the Car and Driver lightning lap format at VIR and feel that’s a pretty good yardstick. The “Ring” is all about clout. No one and I mean no one is going to drive this car flat out for 12.9 miles like the Nurburgring but it sure is fun to see what the manufacturers can squeeze out of these cars there!

  • @Brandonsgarages
    @Brandonsgarages Місяць тому +3

    I’ll never be convinced that car is faster around the ring than the c8 Z06.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому +2

      @@Brandonsgarages That’s why I think the Z06 time is so far off

    • @Luke-cb3ly
      @Luke-cb3ly Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dbmracing2019lots of mistakes, correcting the steering wheel all the time, the car going up a gear then down a gear .3 seconds later. braking too early in some corners etc... I believe a clean lap with the Z06 on a good day will do at least 6:58

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @ IMO…. It should as wrll

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Місяць тому +3

      From a guy with a z06 picture, ofcourse you’re gonna say that😂

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@voodoodiecast Gotta have faith. I really hope we get official GM times for both the C8 Z06 and the C8 ZR1

  • @kme5925
    @kme5925 Місяць тому +3

    HP is not everything

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @@kme5925 You are correct on that

    • @zeuscasey
      @zeuscasey 29 днів тому +1

      exactly, look at the gt3 its has 300+ less hp then this gtd and is still faster. porsche enginering is next level

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому

      @ It certainly is! And those 6 cylinders Porsche rec to over 9000 RPM makes a glorious noise!

  • @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
    @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Місяць тому +1

    Still believe a Z06 with the throttle body, exhaust and Eventuri can turn that time EASY. We cant take the Sport Auto lap as gospel.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  Місяць тому

      @@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Agreed! 100%!!

    • @2020matrix8
      @2020matrix8 Місяць тому +1

      I with you 💯

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Місяць тому +1

      In Sport Auto’s defense, they were only given one lap and that was it. Hence the mistakes and whatnot. You need time to know the car entirely. But you guys wouldn’t know that.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  29 днів тому +1

      @ I agree! I think everyone wants an official GM lap time. Ford laid down the gauntlet… let’s see if GM responds

  • @CanyonsCarver
    @CanyonsCarver 27 днів тому +1

    Mercedes-AMG is the boss to beat.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @@CanyonsCarver That GT Black Series car is an amazing machine!

  • @osos231
    @osos231 29 днів тому +1

    It will not be a ZR1 killer at $300k+😂

  • @Francisco-po5xf
    @Francisco-po5xf 27 днів тому +1

    350 thousand vs 121 thousand. so you basically put $250,000 into a Corvette and I'm sure it'll spank the shit out of this dustang

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  27 днів тому

      @@Francisco-po5xf I think so as well!

  • @specwill1
    @specwill1 28 днів тому +2

    are you kidding ZR1 killer. bahahaha

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @@specwill1 if only GM will give us a ZR1 and an official Z06 time

  • @rickwisniewski8619
    @rickwisniewski8619 24 дні тому +1

    I don’t even like the c8 but I guarantee you if you put 150k into it it would beat the 325k mustang!

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  24 дні тому

      @@rickwisniewski8619 This is true. Don’t forget. ZR1 is dropping 2025 MY

  • @raymondhumphrey2749
    @raymondhumphrey2749 24 дні тому +1

    The 300 thousand dollar track car, That you can not track.. or your warranty is no longer respected if you track it🤣🤣😭 ..

  • @claudiusarnellius2465
    @claudiusarnellius2465 28 днів тому +2

    Ford has a problems. At a Ford has a problems. At a starting price of approximately $325,000, vs $200,000 for the 1064 HP ZR1, GM is looking like a genius!!!. For $300,000 I'm buying a Lambostarting price of approximately $325,000, vs $200,000 for the ZR1, GM is looking like a geninus.

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому +1

      @@claudiusarnellius2465 and that thing is HIDEOUS IMO

  • @kel50pp
    @kel50pp 15 днів тому +1

    Dude mixing two different times in history. GM wasn't using a flat plain crank back then. And no GM didn't invent the flat plain crank, Ford did it first here with the Shelby GT350.. American! Flat plain cranks come from Europe. GM did invent magna ride.. and ok!

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  15 днів тому

      @@kel50pp GT350 one of my favorite cars! I have already done one video on the channel and have another coming out very soon as well! The GT350 would have been an all time great if it was a touch lighter…… like the Boss 302 right around 3200 lbs but nonetheless it’s an AMAZING machine and one of my favorite all time mustangs

  • @harryshrooman3024
    @harryshrooman3024 28 днів тому +1

    Slower 😊

    • @dbmracing2019
      @dbmracing2019  28 днів тому

      @@harryshrooman3024 Right now it’s definitely faster than ANY American production car… EVER