These are so wonderful. I'm a sound guy, and I love how ACCESSIBLE Dev makes it. He knows his stuff, and doesn't fuss about the hyper technical - which to me, preserves that joyful discovery of our rapidly changing technological advances. It's really easy to help explain to artists in such a way. Because it IS exciting. (The ocean machine rules BTW. Radial makes a thing called the EXTC that lets me use it as a line level insert on my midas for vocal effects. You're welcome.)
There actually is a video on his channel that has Dev watching a HowToBasic video and being entertained by it. I think it was one of the Transcendence Tour videos.
as much as I love the sound, it's the weight. I think your bid on the Grandmeister 40 deluxe was very cool, because you were able step through it all and it showed us weekend chumps a down and dirty way to get the functionality out of an amp like that quick and it sounded amazing. I've been a Boogie user for 20yrs now and as much as I love them, my back no longer does. along with going the in ear route soon you almost don't have to have the massive stage volume, nut some is good for the people in the front. love all your videos Dev, thank you for doing us all a favor and showcasing this stuff. it opens the eyes and offers perspective to us all. see you. Ryan and Bev on the next show in Maryland. Cheers!
Shred mode sounds like Metallica because James Hetfield (Kirk probably too) had his 2c+ Boogies modded to 2c++, which added some gain and aggression. Activating shred changes something in the circuit, making the JP2C essentially a 2c++.
Just back from your gig in Malmö... ...marvelous performance; absolutely marvelous! I'm not really into metal and never heard you before - but you blew my socks off. I was especially found of the March of the Poozers - great stuff! :D Thank you for being down-to-earth and giving it your 100%, even with a small-ish audience. +1 fan :)
I wish more guys did reviews and play throughs like this. Keep it simple, informative and fun. Wish I'd found this channel years ago. Reminds me of that earlier Metallica sound - which it does because the Jp2C is the "best of" the old Mark II C+ amps in a reissue for John. So, for that Metallica Master of Puppets and Justice tone, this is the amp. James used a IIC++ on Puppets and a pair of IIC+ on Justice and the tours for both those albums. The IIC+'s also saw action on the Black Album. From all the amps Mesa has put out in the last decade the little Mark V 25 and 35 are the best. It has the drive and punch of the JP2C in a smaller size and wattage (rackmount version available) but the voicing of the amp, to me, has a little more tone and character. For anyone that doesn't need to rely just on a big amp for their backline, I'd take a look at those. The Mark IV voicing on them is just like an angry Mark IIC+ and the use of EL84's allows for that Mark 2C++ tone slaved into a JCM800 like James did on Master, as well as some Michael Schenker like lead tones. The dirty mode on Channel 1 is great if you like that 70's/80's era Marshall JMP 1987 50 watt driven hard tone.
sneifert1968 check out/get Bias if you like Amplitube. More amps and options. (Tone match) pretty cheap too. I have both and I much prefer Bias. I used it on many of my recordings. FYI Sound quality improves with a good adapter/interface.
Dude! Your videos just keep getting better and better! Hope you continue the series for a little longer! By the way i love the intro, please don't ever change it!!
Those amps have to have the EQ on them because the tone stacks are before the gain stacks so there is no way to change the tone after the gain stack with out it.
I have a Mesa Boogie 50/50 power amp that sounds way better than any amp I have ever heard.I have a few pre-amps (ADA,Marshall and my own build) and they all sound like sexy Valkyrie covered in honey having their wings torn off.That's a awesome sound.
I like all the sounds that can be made on channels 2 and 3, but what if you wanted to do a simple Kurt thing and run a DS-2 through the clean channel? Is the clean channel a good pedal platform? Could it compete with the clean tone of the Studio .22 preamp?
It's not really a big deal, just a reissue of the Mark IIC+, the amp that defined the modern metal guitar sound on the early Metallica records 😉 It's amazing that over 30 years later, metal tones haven't really changed that much, other than lower tunings and a bit more mids in the mix.
Honestly, I kinda prefer his rhythm tone back when he was using a combo of a Triple Rec and a Stilletto. The JP2C sounds good, but it doesn't quite get there all the way.
"Hi Devin, great choice. I'm searching for a second rackable amp to play with my old Racktifier, a Rev F made in october 1992 with chrome chassis and black diamond plate. The Rectifier is great for the low end and the MIIC could be great for the attack. But I wonder…. where do you damn put the reverb tank in the rack version?
Yeah but voiced differently partly due to the fact that The Metallica amps were Simulclass and this is a 100/60 watt model. And the transformers different too from the V. Both have the IIC+ preamp circuitry. The V being Simulclass and with the transformer difference sounds smoother and more 3D maybe, whilst the JP is more 'raw' and in your face. A Metallica sig amp might be a simulclass version of this amp, maybe without the two EQs, and perhaps something going on in clean channel to get a little of that hybrid Roland/IIC+ clean hybrid sound Hetfield has/had.
IS the EQ controllable via MIDI as well? Or does the MIDI only do channel switching and that's it? Would be cool if you could control the entire thing like gain / volume / etc settings for each channel and have them all be MIDI assignable! That would be a great way to get really precise dialed in tones at the push of a button.
Midi switching controls nearly everything. I use my AX8 to control my JP2C and it controls channel switching, reverb, fx loop, shred mode, eq 1 or 2... everything except the knobs themselves.
Yeah I watched the demo with Sweetwater -- you can set which switches are on and off via MIDI but you can't set the parameters of the actual knobs and EQ sliders...I wish they would have found a way to do that, shouldn't be too hard...The price of the amp is ridiculously high, it's just something I would have thought they should have included. Just my 0.02.
I think it is a little more difficult than that. My understanding is that the Graphic EQ is an analog function. They would need to be digital for that to be a thing. Kind of in the same way MOST analog delays dont have a tap function (and the ones that do use some pretty intense digital to analog to digital conversion to make work). I'm 90% sure that its a lot harder than 'shouldn't be too hard' ha. :)
It wouldn't have to be full digital -- they would just need digital _switching_ to control the analog processes. Very easy. Something like an arduino can be used for such things at the hobbyist level. This is also exactly how Ernie Ball does their "Game Changer" systems. Analog hardware and components, but with digital switches that can be programmed.
Some people say that you get your endorsement deal taken away if you criticize their products.... Even if they suck! Main advice is to not buy a Cab Clone...
Do you have a boost, overdrive or distortion pedal? The best thing I ever did was getting a pedal to put in front of my HT20, made the tone 1000x better. Personally I use a Metal Muff as a boost/extra eq, though I'm sure there are much better options out there. I don't play more modern sounding stuff like this though, so I can't really recommend you anything. For this kind of tone I would get something else, preferably with a graphic eq. Oh, and replacing the speakers can also do wonders to your tone. I use the factory speaker, but I know a guy that changed his for a G12 T75 and it made it sound much more like MOP/AJFA era Metallica.
I just have the head, play it into my interface/out my studio monitors. I don't have any pedals at the moment but I use Bias sometimes so I could add an 808 into the chain.
Oh, yeah, I forgot there was a head version. But I don't think a HT20 on its own could get this tone, so an 808 would surely help. As you can see on the EQs, Dev is using a very scooped mids sound, so use that as a starting point. I would say bass and mids at around 9 o'clock, lots of treble, and ISF to the left of course. Then use the 808 to add that extra saturation and maybe further scoop the mids. My experience says that the HT20 is not really that good at getting that Mesa Boggie sound, so probably best if you can have a second EQ like Dev is using. It's not the ideal amp for this, but maybe you can get something similar.
The joyful child "hooray" scared the shit out of me
Alex likewise on that, Jesus..
Those kids scared the shit out of me...
I'm so happy to not be alone on that part. xD God DAMN they came outta nowhere.
hahahaha same!
I was sitting here, pondering, what that could mean, then suddenly... Scared the shit out of me as well...
Were you using your signature Fishman pickups?
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. LOL
Man, the crunch sound of those amps is the stuff of dreams
SmevMev crunchberries
These are so wonderful. I'm a sound guy, and I love how ACCESSIBLE Dev makes it. He knows his stuff, and doesn't fuss about the hyper technical - which to me, preserves that joyful discovery of our rapidly changing technological advances. It's really easy to help explain to artists in such a way. Because it IS exciting. (The ocean machine rules BTW. Radial makes a thing called the EXTC that lets me use it as a line level insert on my midas for vocal effects. You're welcome.)
Is Devin Townsend HowToBasic?
Haaahahaha I thought the same thing xDDD
DEVIN IS OFFICIALLY HOWTOBASIC
It's Zim, we know this
There actually is a video on his channel that has Dev watching a HowToBasic video and being entertained by it. I think it was one of the Transcendence Tour videos.
If they ever do make a Rick and Morty movie, then Devin should be Rick. For real.
Wow, that would actually work, haha!!
I think Willem Dafoe would be a perfect actor for rick, but Devin defiantly be an amazing alien of some sort in that series.
This needs more thumbs up.
??
Devin Townsend and Michael Cera. ☠☠☠☠
this is the coolest and most honest review of the jp2c that I have ever seen.
That look when he says "They call it Shred" hahaha is priceless
Devin I love you so much. Please, never stop doing you.
Best amps ever. I’ve played and owned everything, always go back to the dual rectifier roadster
Nice, Stormcrow shot glasses. I always make sure I go there at least once when I visit Vancouver.
Note to self: never drink warm coffee offered by Mr. Devin Townsend.
I also had one of those rack mount dual rectifier I wish I didn't get rid of it by far the best sounding amp I ever had
These are so frickin awesome. I think this was also the funniest one yet, great stuff
as much as I love the sound, it's the weight. I think your bid on the Grandmeister 40 deluxe was very cool, because you were able step through it all and it showed us weekend chumps a down and dirty way to get the functionality out of an amp like that quick and it sounded amazing. I've been a Boogie user for 20yrs now and as much as I love them, my back no longer does. along with going the in ear route soon you almost don't have to have the massive stage volume, nut some is good for the people in the front. love all your videos Dev, thank you for doing us all a favor and showcasing this stuff. it opens the eyes and offers perspective to us all. see you. Ryan and Bev on the next show in Maryland. Cheers!
0:43 HowToBasic confirmed
Looking forward to seeing both Ohio shows in May!
6:49 that's the snarling chord that sells me on Mesa amp every time.
This tone is bigger than god and heavier than Trigglypuff.
Shred mode sounds like Metallica because James Hetfield (Kirk probably too) had his 2c+ Boogies modded to 2c++, which added some gain and aggression. Activating shred changes something in the circuit, making the JP2C essentially a 2c++.
Just back from your gig in Malmö...
...marvelous performance; absolutely marvelous!
I'm not really into metal and never heard you before - but you blew my socks off.
I was especially found of the March of the Poozers - great stuff! :D
Thank you for being down-to-earth and giving it your 100%, even with a small-ish audience.
+1 fan :)
Great video Devon. Would love to see a video on the torpedo live and what IR's you use
Love the intro and sign-off! I like his sense of humor.
I wish more guys did reviews and play throughs like this. Keep it simple, informative and fun. Wish I'd found this channel years ago.
Reminds me of that earlier Metallica sound - which it does because the Jp2C is the "best of" the old Mark II C+ amps in a reissue for John. So, for that Metallica Master of Puppets and Justice tone, this is the amp. James used a IIC++ on Puppets and a pair of IIC+ on Justice and the tours for both those albums. The IIC+'s also saw action on the Black Album.
From all the amps Mesa has put out in the last decade the little Mark V 25 and 35 are the best. It has the drive and punch of the JP2C in a smaller size and wattage (rackmount version available) but the voicing of the amp, to me, has a little more tone and character. For anyone that doesn't need to rely just on a big amp for their backline, I'd take a look at those. The Mark IV voicing on them is just like an angry Mark IIC+ and the use of EL84's allows for that Mark 2C++ tone slaved into a JCM800 like James did on Master, as well as some Michael Schenker like lead tones. The dirty mode on Channel 1 is great if you like that 70's/80's era Marshall JMP 1987 50 watt driven hard tone.
you haven't seen that?! we gotta do a gearwhore on that!
Dev is the best gear reviewer in all of youtube ever! LOL
3:27 I dont know why but i laughed so hard XDD
Hahaha yeah same XD
That's why I love boogie - they make everything rack-mountable.
MK V is such an amazing amp
Devin's got racks on racks on racks.
This might be my favorite intro in all of youtube
Devin is the coolest nerd I don't know.
The "YAAAAAY!!!!" scared the crap out of me.
I guess there's no possibility of getting a photo of Dev's settings for this amp? That would be absolutely amazing.
.rzr at 1:28-1:35....?
Oh my, thank you. I guess my brain kinda derped out right there.
IRig is cool. They actually model the Mesa amps in their AmpliTube app😃
sneifert1968 check out/get Bias if you like Amplitube. More amps and options. (Tone match) pretty cheap too. I have both and I much prefer Bias. I used it on many of my recordings. FYI Sound quality improves with a good adapter/interface.
Dude! Your videos just keep getting better and better! Hope you continue the series for a little longer!
By the way i love the intro, please don't ever change it!!
Gotta respect the Storm Crow shot glasses!
Those amps have to have the EQ on them because the tone stacks are before the gain stacks so there is no way to change the tone after the gain stack with out it.
Best clean channel period!
That amp head is ridiculous! I think you should totally do an episode on phone apps like BIAS FX! 😃
Sounds nice
I have a Mesa Boogie 50/50 power amp that sounds way better than any amp I have ever heard.I have a few pre-amps (ADA,Marshall and my own build) and they all sound like sexy Valkyrie covered in honey having their wings torn off.That's a awesome sound.
LOOOOL that "yaaaaay" chorus was unexpected.
I found real value and joy, in the disclaimer that flashed on the screen at the end. Regardless of any misspelled words :D
Chris Tompkins i cant get the smell of lemon and vinegar out of my kitchen
LOL!!! :D
I just love these gearwhore videos, that is all.
I'd love to see devy try the triple crown.
It's not like an added bonus to have the graphic EQ's it is a necessity on these amps.
Hey man can you do the Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier 25w at some stage?
I found out about the rack mount option a few weeks ago... I'm in trouble.
Do you what cab he was using here ?
the "wanna treat" part excited my dog
hey! Storm Crow shot glasses! Looks like someone rolled a 20
The metallicizer !
Excellent review
Is that a firehawk 1500 behind you? Gearwhore it!!!!!!!
I like all the sounds that can be made on channels 2 and 3, but what if you wanted to do a simple Kurt thing and run a DS-2 through the clean channel? Is the clean channel a good pedal platform? Could it compete with the clean tone of the Studio .22 preamp?
Devy may not use the reverb on the amp, but he sure uses the shit out of it on his kemper/axe fx
3:27 i loved it too much lmao
man i love boogies. i miss my roadster head. foolishly sold it.
i know all this stuff,Mesa Boogie is top of the line.
love these videos
It's not really a big deal, just a reissue of the Mark IIC+, the amp that defined the modern metal guitar sound on the early Metallica records 😉
It's amazing that over 30 years later, metal tones haven't really changed that much, other than lower tunings and a bit more mids in the mix.
DimeWyldeSynTremonti I'll always associate the IIC+ with Dream theater. JPs tone was light years ahead of Metallica's
They start using Mesa's on the 3rd album...
End Of Fate master of puppets and justice are still early Metallica records
It has 6L6's Dev- Just like yer old Calibre (assuming you didnt have the ultra rare el-84 loaded ones) and Rectumfryer
Kelly Jackson dual cal.= EL 84. Dual cal.+ = 6l6. Eq was optional on both.
ROFL Howtobasic reference at 0:43 xDD?
In the intro...did they mirror the footage or is he actually playing his guitar flipped to the other side?
Honestly, I kinda prefer his rhythm tone back when he was using a combo of a Triple Rec and a Stilletto. The JP2C sounds good, but it doesn't quite get there all the way.
"Hi Devin, great choice. I'm searching for a second rackable amp to play with my old Racktifier, a Rev F made in october 1992 with chrome chassis and black diamond plate. The Rectifier is great for the low end and the MIIC could be great for the attack. But I wonder…. where do you damn put the reverb tank in the rack version?
Gearwhore on PositiveGrid BIAS and JamUp please!!
Mark 2c+ reissue
hit the shred switch!🤘
I really like you :-) Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of myself with gear
Hello Devin. What are your thoughts on BIAS FX? How about using it with a power amp like Matrix and a real cab?
I got one of them, great head!
why does he remind me of idubbbz Hahaha
It's funny cause I was literally thinking the exact same thing.
Should have been the JH-2C.
"What is it, Mark V signature?" actually it's based on Mark IIC+ (also the amp that Metallica used 7:09), hence the name JP-2C!
Yeah but voiced differently partly due to the fact that The Metallica amps were Simulclass and this is a 100/60 watt model. And the transformers different too from the V. Both have the IIC+ preamp circuitry. The V being Simulclass and with the transformer difference sounds smoother and more 3D maybe, whilst the JP is more 'raw' and in your face. A Metallica sig amp might be a simulclass version of this amp, maybe without the two EQs, and perhaps something going on in clean channel to get a little of that hybrid Roland/IIC+ clean hybrid sound Hetfield has/had.
killer tones tho
Dev should get Mesa Triple Crown.
Why is Devin like this!?
Would you get the Mark V over the dual/triple rectifier for thrash and classic metal and if so why or why not?
That is a mark 2 not 5 ,,,, mark 2C+
6:15 LOL
It's pretty much just a tubescreamer kind of OD and they call it "shred".
Oh, Dev.
Which pickups did you use @devintownsend ?
Think he was still EMG 81/66 here, he's Fishman now 👍
What a cool dude!
Hoooly crap the sound of those ”metallica” chords
would ziltoid use this?
Where are u??????
thing sounds fkn filthy
Come to Michigan Dev!!
do a gearwhore on a mesa boogie dual rectifier rackmount head!!!
ahh,what a lovey boogie
IS the EQ controllable via MIDI as well? Or does the MIDI only do channel switching and that's it? Would be cool if you could control the entire thing like gain / volume / etc settings for each channel and have them all be MIDI assignable! That would be a great way to get really precise dialed in tones at the push of a button.
if it´s switchable by hand then it should be also by midi.
Midi switching controls nearly everything. I use my AX8 to control my JP2C and it controls channel switching, reverb, fx loop, shred mode, eq 1 or 2... everything except the knobs themselves.
Yeah I watched the demo with Sweetwater -- you can set which switches are on and off via MIDI but you can't set the parameters of the actual knobs and EQ sliders...I wish they would have found a way to do that, shouldn't be too hard...The price of the amp is ridiculously high, it's just something I would have thought they should have included. Just my 0.02.
I think it is a little more difficult than that. My understanding is that the Graphic EQ is an analog function. They would need to be digital for that to be a thing. Kind of in the same way MOST analog delays dont have a tap function (and the ones that do use some pretty intense digital to analog to digital conversion to make work). I'm 90% sure that its a lot harder than 'shouldn't be too hard' ha. :)
It wouldn't have to be full digital -- they would just need digital _switching_ to control the analog processes. Very easy. Something like an arduino can be used for such things at the hobbyist level.
This is also exactly how Ernie Ball does their "Game Changer" systems.
Analog hardware and components, but with digital switches that can be programmed.
If you are considering this signature amp, I have a JP15 I would be willing to trade for one of your Framus guitars. Just fyi :)
Why would you? The Mark V is cheaper and is way more versatile
you make funny, funny funny man
First of all i am here for intro part
Some people say that you get your endorsement deal taken away if you criticize their products.... Even if they suck! Main advice is to not buy a Cab Clone...
Tone at 5:20. On a Blackstar HT20, what do?
Do you have a boost, overdrive or distortion pedal? The best thing I ever did was getting a pedal to put in front of my HT20, made the tone 1000x better. Personally I use a Metal Muff as a boost/extra eq, though I'm sure there are much better options out there. I don't play more modern sounding stuff like this though, so I can't really recommend you anything. For this kind of tone I would get something else, preferably with a graphic eq.
Oh, and replacing the speakers can also do wonders to your tone. I use the factory speaker, but I know a guy that changed his for a G12 T75 and it made it sound much more like MOP/AJFA era Metallica.
I just have the head, play it into my interface/out my studio monitors. I don't have any pedals at the moment but I use Bias sometimes so I could add an 808 into the chain.
Oh, yeah, I forgot there was a head version. But I don't think a HT20 on its own could get this tone, so an 808 would surely help. As you can see on the EQs, Dev is using a very scooped mids sound, so use that as a starting point. I would say bass and mids at around 9 o'clock, lots of treble, and ISF to the left of course. Then use the 808 to add that extra saturation and maybe further scoop the mids. My experience says that the HT20 is not really that good at getting that Mesa Boggie sound, so probably best if you can have a second EQ like Dev is using. It's not the ideal amp for this, but maybe you can get something similar.
Thanks dude :)
"Here's your basic crunch" yeah right.
Riiiiiight 😂
Why is the Torpedo Studio being disrespected like that on the floor?!
For practicing you can always use a Blackstar ID Core 20 for 150 euros and .... you get Nita Strauss with that :) lol