2019 Nissan Altima AWD Explained and Snow Test
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The 2019 Nissan Altima All-Wheel Drive (AWD) system OVERHEATS as we put it to the test on snow covered roads of the Cascade Mountains. Can this Rogue-based AWD system get through slick snow on the way to the trailhead?
#nissan #offroad #2019altima
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What's your worst overheating experience?
My Honda HR-V. It got high centered in a snow drift in my driveway and the AWD kept shutting off from all the spinning. That said I would still choose it over a Subaru because it's overall a simpler system and I had a Subaru with constant "torque bind" problems.
I’ve gotten the same warning from my current model Nissan Rogue , weak awd system
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@@scott8919 Turn off your traction control then it won't cut off the power.
@@timlo6699 No, the AWD system overheated, flashed the AWD light and had to sit for it to cool down.
my G35 AWD, was in a bad snow storm in 2016, spinning all four tires moving slowly, i smelled something burning, i didnt get an AWD warning light so i dont know if it was transmission fluid or the AWD transfer case fluid, i did make it home, that was the first snow storm that my AWD car met its match in snow, but years later still no transmission or AWD system problems
I just bought the 2019 nissan sv took it through one of the worst snow blizzards on my way to ski resort deep in maine and had no issues, it drove better then some trucks and work trucks I have driven and I have driven them all and my buddys sti, that thing is a beast I feel like u have something against Altima, but anyone looking to buy for awd it is no joke absolute beast in all conditions
We have the same system in our Murano and never had an issue. It’s not meant to be treated like a Jeep, it works perfectly for those snowy drives home from work.
@DrivingSportsTV Could you do the next AWD snow test with and without winter tires? It would be intersting to see how a mainstream AWD system performs with winter tires.
You need better tires, not just AWD. Had a Subaru Legacy as a company car with performance summer tires on it and it was terrifying in the snow. Worse than my front-wheel drive car with all-seasons.
I had a 2008 MKZ. Worst car I ever had in the snow, even with all seasons.
Why summer tires, on an economy "family sedan".
I have snow tires on my 2017 Camaro ss and I do amazing even upto a foot of snow.
@@jeremyd2003 "all seasons" are not for snow, despite the name. It's the worst marketing disaster ever.
@@chezbut that car was worse than my 2001 Neon, if that helps tough guy.
I have an RDX and the SH-AWD is phenomenal. I watched the display show it rapidly distribute power front back, side to side, and it was amazing. Even with it in desperate need of new tires, I never really got stuck
I've driven a Subaru, of sorts, for 11 years now... And even with turning off the nannies I've never experienced anything with my AWD system being weird. Then again, symmetrical AWD is a bit different than this system.
subaru relies on hot fluid to keep the axles locked. This is Altima is some wicked stuff. But better than useless front wheel drive.
@@Y10Q That would apply to the manual transmissions with t he viscous coupling. The automatic transmissions use a multi plate clutch housed as part of the transmission.
As a former Nissan owner I have had three Rogues for my wife and myself, and I have owned two Altimas and a Sentra. I was considering getting this new 2019 Altima but I decided to get a Subaru Impreza and save myself about $9,000 and I think and again this is just my opinion, the all-wheel drive system in the Subaru is much better
Subaru has several systems, all under the name "Symmetrical All Wheel Drive," and for the most part I prefer them to the Nissan system. _RD
Great detailed review. Loved how you integrated the read of the Nissan response into the video. Those "slip n grip" AWD systems aren't for driving enthusiasts.
Neither is an altima. It is however, a pretty good all around sedan
For the conditions you were driving in it was completely unacceptable for the awd system to overheat. Even from Nissan's instructions you were correct in driving with vdc off up a snowy hill.
it's not designed for that.. same manufacturers just don't warn u that ur reaching the limits of the rated design.. u need a jeep or truck with a mechanical system that kind of abuse
I mean, who's going to be taking a 2.5 Altima off road on a snowy incline meant for SUV's and big trucks with 4 wheel drive and a rear locking differential?? 🤔
He sums it up pretty well at the end of the video. Like most crossovers, these AWD systems are designed to keep average jane and joe in Northern states going through poor weather with the occasional slip or going up to that vacation cabin rather than serious, sustained off-roading.
@@justinbrown2570 it just didn't seem that the conditions were all that radical to me. It wasn't really "off road" so much as a mildly snow-covered dirt or gravel road. I would certainly take my Outback with snow tires up there and I sure wouldn't expect any problems.
@@ericharman4064 I sure would expect an outback to have a more robust awd system than a mainstream family sedan that has a slip then grip awd setup; especially one from a company that touts itself as a go anywhere do anything vehicle manufacturer. This altima performed exactly as expected from any awd slip then grip setup with a multi plate wet clutch design... it's not designed to transfer power all of the time. Look up CRVs, Acadias, Traverses, Explorers, etc, they all have the same setup and they all have the same symptoms when people try to play off road warrior with them. "AWD not available," "AWD Fault, see owners manual," etc.
I was like hell yeah 4wd. Overheats then nvm.
I have brought 3 vehicles with cvt no problem at all. I have a friend 2007 Nissan Altima with 200,000 miles had not one problem.
I don’t think the 2007 models came with cvt
09 Altima with 130k on it and so far so good (knocks on wood) but living in Maryland I think my next car will be this AWD Altima
@@gusparra4037 they did
@@gusparra4037 Nissan started CVT since 2000.
When you are stuck you are supposed to turn the wheel back and forth not keep it straight like you were doing.
I even know that and I've only driven in the snow a handful of times.
That's what I normally do in dealership lol and could get mustang out without any issues with traction control off, this guy probably doesn't know what's he doing
Yup, he was driving it like it was RWD. If it was RWD then ideally you want the wheels straight when you're trying to get unstuck. But if your front wheels are moving then you should turn the wheel to try and get as much grip as possible.
He’s also sawing away at the wheel counter steering nothing...he is creating slides that don’t need to happen.
Then he brags about his winter driving experience, amazing
back and forth steering is to help differential action....needed with traction control off....
I'm a bit torn on this, and I'm partially wondering if this is a slightly weaker system than what's used in the Rogue. There are videos all over especially in Russia of some crazy things being done with the Rogue/X-Trail with no over heat. I'm disappointed to see the system react this way, but with someone turning VDC off and basically hooning it around I'm not too surprised.
Put on some snow tires & do again
Nissan cars will be very good if they have a direct shift AT. Nissan needs to discontinue the CVTs AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
This Altima AWD set-up is pathetic! Nissan should just provide their Altima customers with free snow tires every four years and not be bordered with this underwhelming AWD system.
What do I think? What a shitty car. Thank God I've owned Subaru and Audi products, so I can safely say, I would never own this, nor a Haldex system type of AWD.
Acura SH-AWD still the best system.
Agreed, I have '12 TL SH-AWD, never overheated
Audi sedans are the best in my opinion
In terms of FWD biased AWD systems...yes I agree
I like the way it looks and I even like the interior but CVT when it comes to Nissan is terrible.
It sounds like Nissan could have had a banger but just failed. Should have talked to Subaru and jointly made something there
If you want a sedan with real AWD, the legacy is still the better choice.
Or a g35/37x
" Real " AWD ??? ,,, okay, just wondering how many 2019 Nissan Altima's have you tested ??
@@munnjean 2 or 3. But i said g... Which is NOT an altima. The g series is built on the fm 350/370 chassis. The altima is not on the same fm chassis. The awd system that was finally placed in the altima is just the new version of the awd system infiniti has been using for over a decade. Know your cars before trying to rip someone.
@@mikeschaner5853 apologies ,,
Mike Schaner 🔥🔥🔥
Tires, tires...tires!
It’s works the same in the Nissan Altima 2021 SR to drive over snow?
I've heard a lot of complaints about the cvt trans being weak and the overheating issue is not good. I was thinking of getting one but all the things I've heard it makes me look elsewhere..
Unacceptable the cooling for the AWD should be better I have had worse conditions in Toronto with the snow fall we had and would expect my AWD to be robust on my 3 hour commute home Nissan needs to give us some answers?
That overheating option does trouble me
Why in the hell are you sawing that wheel back and forth so much that is totally unnecessary
Nissan and even Honda AWD system is not trail rated or even for traveling in 6+ inches of snow. Look up your AWD system before buying a car please
I just bought a 2024 Altima SR Premium AWD. It has Bridgestone Blizzak’s on steel rims mounted on it because I live in Ontario Canada. This is my first ever all-wheel-drive vehicle. I am used to front wheel drive vehicles with the snow tires on spinning the tires until you get up to speed., So I know what that is like. It’s snowed here today a good 4 to 5 inches of snow. I took the autumn out for the first time in snow to test the all-wheel-drive system and I don’t know what this guy is talking about or what he did to get stuck, but I tried everything and this vehicle in the snow is like a snowplow. I tried with, and without VDC. Off the line in 3 to 4 inches of snow, this car pulls like it’s on pavement. It turned off the VDC, and again off the line, it pulls like it’s on dry pavement. People are going to nitpick over the smallest things. Based on my driving in snow today, I would highly recommend this Nissan Altima all-wheel-drive version.
recommending a used audi? better have a thick wallet
The 2019 AWD Altima might be a good buy used in 2021 or 2022 with low miles after it's depreciated to reflect its real value, if you like the amenities and MPG of the Altima. I like my 2013 Altima because I've had no issues with it and the great MPG, but I'm paranoid that the CVT is going to go out any time.
I have a 2011 Altima wit 133k. Never had any issues ever. Thinking about getting rid of it before CVT issues. Brother in law had same car and only got 166k before CVT gave out.
That’s silly ... overheating? Really? Wow
That's just Japanese cars...
because it might be like the infiniti's that uses a multi-plate electric magnetic wet clutch that sits in fluid, only designed to be use intermittently,
almost all awd with a similar system will overheat the center coupling if operating ouy of normal parameters.. a 4x4 vehicle is designed for that a true mechanical link between front and rear wheels
Although I appreciate the comments ... common ... ‘japanese’ ... and because it’s outside operating parameters?
No way ... I don’t buy it ... don’t call it an AWD system ... with or without ‘intelligent ‘ in front of it
EVERY person that buys that vehicle ... should be made to sign an agreement ... that they understand ... if they live ANYWHERE snow falls ... that they should prolly just stay home ... my reasoning is simple, you can’t use it as a daily driver in the snow ... just can’t ... it’s always gonna be engaging
I know it’s a little extreme ... but that is not common place in advertised AWD systems ... Subaru? ...
@@AmericanBusinessman422 thats just Nissan
Good job Nissan adding AWD to the Altima lineup. Honda Accord need an AWD system too... I'm thinking maybe 2020 or 2021 model. Is the Altima in the same class as the Accord? Whats Honda answer to the Maxima? I believe the Toyota Avalon is in the same segment as the Maxima.
Accord V-6 models were previously the answer to the Maxima, particularly the EX-L and Touring trims.
Oh you missed the reason why I bought 3 new Altima's in the past 15 years and it's the reason I can't buy a new one this year , They took away the 45 inches of front leg room , I'am 6' 6" and long legged , But Infinity keeps the 45" of front leg room
Get a used one as the resale value is crap
also infinity is nissan so, u still bought there car.
We get it Nissan. It's not "designed" to do that... which makes it not much of a design as far as I'm concerned. That little trip up the hill was nothing and it overheated...sure as hell that thing is going to leave you some winter night when you're trying to get home and need to turn the traction control off for an extended period. For about $9k less you can get a nicely equipped Subaru Legacy if sedans are your thing and actually have something that will go through the snow.
Yeah, IF unedited, it took around three minutes of somewhat spirited driving and powersliding for it to overheat!? What a piece of crap and Nissan should be ashamed of themselves!
Not bad for a rental car!
My friend this is part time AWD, what you pay what you get! In this price you have lots of the features and AWD, where you can get it?
The thing is with AWD systems they are expected to work without issues such as overheating. What would happen if the car stayed stuck in the snow with the AWD system working to get it out. I'm sure that warning message would pop up again and the car would still be stuck so what good is AWD if automakers aren't gonna at least put high temp fluid in the case so that they can continue to work in challenging situations.
Malcome Allen well he was driving it like he had a WRX or STI almost rallying Esq lol, a person driving normally would have way more time before the system overheats to get out.
@@RossMKF1 we assume so.
What was that about not needing the right tires 😂
Very good review and the AWD system should have held up if that’s abuse Nissan shouldn’t sell cars in Canada : )
*Laughs in xDrive, Quattro, Subaru Asymmetrical*
Cvt failure, new complicated engine failure, awd failure. Carlos may be gone, but his stinch remains.
People like you drive cars with CVT as if they’re sports cars. You’re too aggressive and rough. Then you complain that the transmission went bad. It’s a family sedan. Smh
Maybe do a review with someone who is used to driving in snow, and not flooring it with wheels straight while trying to get unstuck
Not a good AWD system.
Perhaps this experience explains a puzzle I've had about the new Altima's AWD option. For those of us who live in snowy climes it's a big deal, offered only among its competitors by the Subaru Legacy. Why, then, does Nissan offer it only models with the lower spec non-turbo engine? Makes no sense. After the experience in the video I suspect that Nissan has decided that the problem is bad enough with the base engine while the more powerful turbo would aggravate it. Not a ringing endorsement of the new Altima!
It’s a Nissan Altima. Something the accord or camry have not done yet.
AWD Altima definitely the big winner no matter your criticism.
A little later the CVT probably would have overheated...
if you knowingly ignore a warning light, yes. That's for any car. I think due to the CVT issues on previous models they are aggressive in warning the driver about CVT temps.
I wish they offered the AWD with the bigger engine, also people forget AWD & even 4WD is only as good as the tires, buy a set of good snow tires & you’ll see a vast improvement
Nissan is considering it after much consumer demand. They only offered it on 2.5L models to make it affordable, unlike the ford fusion which makes you step up to the bigger more expensive engine, and pricier trims to get awd.
8:05 How do you get out of an "unstuck" position? LOL!
AWD overheated? Not cool. When you need it most too! I’m getting a proper 4x4.
This video finally got helped me crack the code as too why on our 2014 Edge with awd would give a signal of “check awd” and I have finally pinpointed each time it’s done it and it’s of course when I wanted to have some fun with the AWD in snow or slick roads.. hmmm makes sense though.! Great review !!! Love the Altima in Silver! This video might have gotten me to take a look into one!
Man,Don t Kill the car!!!!!!I love this new Altima!
yazkaz what car still has a CD player?
I wonder if this car would make it to 100k miles without any major repairs.
Well idk about 100k yet but my nissan rogue awd sv 2014 has 62k and still riding strong although i have seen and heard about them breaking down. I guess i picked up a lucky one. Idk 🤷♂️
I have a 2010 Altima and have replaced rear window regulators, coolant temp sensor, transmission, have an airbag sensor problem in the summer, which is $2200 to replace cushion containing sensors etc and I have 82k miles
Subaru is king of awd
No, Acura’s SH-AWD is better.
Mitsubishi and Audi AWD is better
I’ve passed Audi awd cars all the time on my way up to the mountain.
I own a 2017 Impreza Sport sedan in 20,000 miles of winter driving with vdc off quit a bit especially uphill ive never had and over heating issue the 30 extra horsepower off the Altima I like but I slide my impreza all over in the snow and for a a fully loaded Impreza in Lithium red I paid 27grand. For me Subaru All Day more fun true AWD and can take a beating! I doubt that Nissan could?
daniel normandeau i have a 2015 base model and i love it!! I always run it in the mud and does me wonders, even pulled a Ford FX4 out of the mud.
Agree
subie best in snow....have a wrx never a problem w overheating.....will need winter tires makes the car drive thru more snow than clearance....
Subie love for you. I drive same car as you. ‘17 Impreza Sport.
Compare the AWD Altima to the Subaru Legacy. No Comparison......
Richard Sefecka compare the fuel economy, piston slap and head gaskets failures to the Altima’s lol
Yep. Redesigned Altima absolutely screams rental spec special.
seems to me that nissan is building their altima's for-profit first, and as for their quality? just enough so you don't complain. Not like the good old days.
The overheating is troubling. Not a good system.
Awd cars are for icy roads, not off roading, 4wd trucks are for off roading. 911 turbo has awd but do you think anybody would drive a 911 up the Rubicon? As far as the temperature warning on the Altima, that's just letting you know the fluid is heating up. All awd cars run hot when worked hard, Nissan is just letting you know before you burn it out. Other manufacturers dont warn you of overheating transmission, they just let you drive till it fails.
There have been quite a few 911's that have driven in the Alcan 5000, Paris to Dakar and challenging events. Driving in snow is not comparable to rock climbing on the Rubicon.
@@drivingsports that is not rubicon, all rally cars race off road. And Rally cars use off road racing tires, this video he has stock street tires.
How about actually test the system like it was designed for such as on a snowy road not a trail. Seems like you set this car up for failure to give Nissan a bad name
Kellan Larson I was thinking that! Just get a Jeep if you’re doing this kinda driving! These vehicles with AWD are good for snowy days in urban, city and highway driving.
Im Deeelicious I don’t even think he realizes what kind of awd system this is to begin with. It’s not a jeeps or Subaru’s. It only sends torque to wheels to fix slipping not to gain more traction and have that one wheel or axel pull the entire car
Kellan Larson Some people actually live on roads similar to that. I'm glad we got to see at what point the system fails.
Careful buddy you're kind of telling us this awd system is crap and it's greatest challenge would be a rainy 😎
@@arxhives People who live on roads like this are not considering buying mainstream family sedans.
Nissan is doing so well since Ghosn been arrested. The Altima has come a long way since 2007 it shouldn't die anytime soon seen few on the streets not many it looks better than Accord exterior it seems the Altima has grown so much.
Ghosn was around for Altima’s planning, design and release phases. Cars coming out today were on the drawing board 5 years ago...
I don't trust a front wheel drive Nissan let alone a crappy CVT AWD one 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩👎👎👎👎
as a viewer from europe, when i see (in many of your tests) snow/winter conditions without a proper WINTER tyre, furthermore summer one, it's a huge WTF&WHY facepalm moment
I agree with Nissan, the car is not meant to be driven like this. Having AWD on a car like this is awesome, it can really make a difference during a snowy drive home. I wouldn’t be surprised if Honda and Toyota follow in Nissan’s foot steps.
Wow, my first time here. Researching awd cars, this channel and this host was great. Definitely subscribing.
Garbage car
How did they fuck this up so badly? Subaru uses a fluid coupling centre differential that has existed since WW1 and they don't overheat. Do companies try to make the worst vehicles imaginable? I had a 2010 corolla and it had that power cut out thing you experienced in this car, and it had the exact same problem of causing the car to get stuck because it cut too much power in snow.
I understand why it heats because the system stays on and the wheels keep spinning the whole time. So that’s why the system gets tired and says I need a break. It is recommended to keep it off the whole time unless you got stuck at you said. I know it sucks that the power keeps cutting off but it’s actually for saftey
Not what I expected from a $30 thousand plus AWD system?
IMO, Subaru and Mitsubishi are great at AWD systems among the Japanese brands. Hopefully, Nissan could use some Mitsubishi tech from the ownership stake they have.
I'm not a fan of Nissan's Jatco CVTs though. AWD vehicles with CVT should not be used in rough conditions like this video demonstrated. I can tell that from owning an Infiniti QX60.
Junk sedan
And Altima should be your last choice. The CVT Transmission suck!
even at 36° a set of dedicated winter tyres is the way to go.. the extra tractive effort of awd is Nice but those squirrely line on the straights showing the difference the right tyres would make in overall traction and handling
Nissan/Infiniti has a problem with this. I have a Q50 AWD and I get the same warnings just driving in normal snow with nothing turned off. Also there is a QX50 review on here where they get the same warnings just driving in a little snow. Something isn't right.
That’s because no other manufacturer has these warnings (not the overheating). When there’s no light, you can’t expect it to turn on. Meanwhile all cars’ AWD systems can and do overheat. Most just get broken PTUs and differentials because they have no warnings on their dashes.
Another question I have regarding the 2019 Altima all wheel drive, does it have an all-wheel drive lock? Like the Nissan Rogue has the button that you could lock all four wheels?
It does, since it's the same system. All that does is lock the front/back ratio, which doesn't really enhance capability.
Translation: you no longer are able to drive your car the way you want to. Yippee. Go "the future".
Ugly car, garbage transmission, only thing that I slightly like is AWD but even with it ain’t that great.
stuck in 4 inches of snow....dont bother buying one in canada
Say no to nissan and their cvt
As soon as I saw he deactivated the VDC I knew the car was gonna get stuck. In the case of the Altima, I felt like Nissan’s AWD system is more a last resort system than a way to have fun. The Altima is kind of the king of the rental fleet and the go to for a fuel efficient bargain sedan. I don’t think the Altima has been a fun enthusiast sedan since we lost the SE-R trim in the early 2000s.
2022 AWD model get any better specially that VDC heating?
Nigsan, perfectly built for Tyrone and Shanaynay.
Is said over heating is not over heating it just too stop u from doing something crazy 🤣😅😅
Not surprised to see it overheating after all this is a cvt drive transmission and that overheats quicker
awful cvt - previous subarus were the master of awd befroe they didthe cvt
Finally Altima is better than maxima
I will not be buying an AWD Altima. The system isn't well built.
People! The man drove in regular conditions, the simplest you can get for basic off roading, no one can tell me that they will never have to drive off road. That AWD system should have been able to handle the load without. Warning light..... overhead🤣🤣. Once again those cars are like buying a cell phone. After paying for it in 5 years(2 years for a phone), Nissan wants you to get another Altima or Maximum. Crap cars.
He was rallying the crap out of it. NOT regular conditions in the slightest.
@@JTube571 dude no! I have seen people really give those Altima and Maximum's pure hell Everyday. The system is weak.
@@HIMI2003 Maxima doesn't have AWD...
@@JTube571 I didnt say the maximum had AWD, what are you talking about.
@@HIMI2003 I should ask you the same thing, why you even mentioned the Maxima in the first place.
You have to turn the wheel while you’re trying to get in stuck
Damn good video.
These so called 'problems' voiced by haters are none issues in the real world. Having owned this CVT/AWD system in a Rogue for 4 years and 60k miles now, I haven't seen this overheating/getting stuck problems. Granted I I haven't joined the baja1k or driven the Rubicon trail, I have driven it on the sand dunes of Pismo Beach and Death valley. No issues whatsoever. My other car is a '17 Audi A4 Quattro. Previous cars, Talon tsi awd, outback sport, Forester xt, and sienna awd.
Buy a Nissan... if you want to replace your CVT at 70k miles
Rented a 2019 altima, not awd, i must say the engine was really nice, good acceleration and the car was very comfortable in the highway .
The cvt sucks, slow to respond specially when you need it, and the car interior was nicely put, but the quality was very poor .
great review i just subscribed wow thank u
you needed snow tires, it would have been fine
Audi has one of the best AWD systems around
My Crosstrek no better in this winter's snow and ice storm. Took half hr digging to move from the alleyway behind home to the curb out front. Next morning was a no go pulling away from the curb until things warmed a bit around 11am. Disappointed. I just bought the AWD Altima too. So now 2 vehicles that won't match my former s10 blazer that was a tank in snow. Of course different 4WD setup and tires, so that is the difference. Also the weight difference of aprox 750 lbs.
Wheels kept spinning when he had it turned off
awd or 4wd is for uneven terrain. why would anyone need awd to go to Walmart or take the kids to school, maybe a person that doesn't believe in it driving abilities? fwd would do the job with good tires, especially snow tires for winter. some people would say oh but u need an SUV. For what? suv's are not always more spacious and the reason for buying suv couse the height of the vehicle is better for the snow is just ridiculous. sedan might be 8 inches over the ground and an suv maybe 13, so in areas where u get a lot of snow few inches extra height means nothing. its just the trend that the sheep's population goes after
My ford explorer overheating not cus of awd but cus of climbing hills hhhhh anyway i like altima nissan my fav car from japan