When A Student Buys Coaching Just To Argue With Me... [Challenger Coaching]
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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This is inspirational, if this guy got masters ill have no problem getting to challenger.
For real man, watching high-rank games just made me realize that they're not those insanely skilled demi-gods and sometimes get carried there by others, climb on lucky winstreaks or just play so much it becomes a numbers game
When i do bad or just don't win a game and there's an ass saying "Yo, you hardstuck, i'm diamond (Or whatever), you'll never reach what i peak", youjust answer "If you are Whatever Rank above me, then i'm sure i'll get there soon if YOU got there". That boils their blood, guarantee.
@@glibchubik4090 brother you dont climb up the ladder by getting carried lmao
@@quantum_leap786right it’s more of a mistakes game and some people are inconstant. Like they can play well for 7 games and then make 20 mistakes next game. So Elo is more about consistency then getting carried by others
my thoughts exactly
this has to be a prank, everything hes saying he’s smiling and laughing “jg most op role”
Nah but this guy is delusional though
it feels staged
Honestly Jungle and Support really are the most impactful roles in the game, but calling a role OP is stupid. I've seen Toplane Teemo's turn games around with genius shroom placements. I've seen Karthus APC One-Tap everybody. I've seen Tahm Kench support survive an 1v9 situation with full HP left. There is no ''OP'' role. It all comes down to Strong Meta , Strong OFF-Meta, Knowledge, Mechanics etc.
I am a good Jungler but Perry might have a chance to jg diff me with Yuumi. That's the diff, the person behind the screen is the biggest diff.
How is he even masters?
You clearly doesn't know Perry, lol @@EnormousDuck2
''why are u trying to gaslight me'' real tears came out of my eyes
This guy….
"i'm 53% wr... these insects are 50%, i can ego on them!!" never seen 3% wr diff in lowmaster go that hard to someones head lol.
The worst part is if you actually watch the video youll notice his teammates are all 60+% except his blitz. But blitz is a blitz so who cares.
"I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care." --Perry
I'm dying lol
There's no fucking way this dude should be anywhere near master
hashinshin type of jungling
Oh no there is a way. You are simply clueless yourself.
You'd be surprised, he's a jungle player and a viego player. He's double elo inflation. So he's probably a high diamond player, inflated into masters. His rank obviously gave him an ego which is preventing him from admitting mistakes which is causing him to make it impossible to improve. If you've been near a "high rank" you'll understand how it feels to think you're better than others.
@blueicer101 his basic game sense tells me this dude would be LUCKY to ever hit platinum. My money is on bought account or acting just for the video
agreed. He deserves challenger
i feel like he just paid for this coaching session with the expectation that you would tell him he is the golden god and he did nothing wrong
10000%, seems like he also came in with the intention of showing perry up by "proving" that his gameplan doesn't work
Perry is literally a lifeguard trying to save a drowning man, who wants to drown, blames the ocean for him not being able to swim, tries to take his lifeguard down with him and has much better chances at doing that rather than swimming.
Physical pain every time this client opens their mouth. Every instance Perry points out a legit mistake, something that could be improved on, client is either silent and dismissing it, or outright calls out a FLIPPING ZERI HEAL for missing Jarvan EQ.
Nah man needs a therapist more than a coach, kudos to Perry for making it through this, I tilted in first 5 min of listening this video :D
Blaming his Blitzcrank for losing scuttle from a bad clear is absolutely WILD!
Just end session give refund it’s terminal
I would love to see tarzaned deal with this guy lmfaoo
refund? nah no way.
@@Yurup He should charge extra when dealing with special needs like this guy
@@deluxecsgo3022 "no dumbass this is why i do champ selects at your peak"
LMAO.
Just finished the whole video, he doesn’t even think he made mistakes, this player is beyond help.
Im only 24 mins in and I can 100% feel the pain in perry body language since way back and the fact there are 20ish more minutes of this is alarming.
24 mins? The first 5 minutes he knew he made a mistake hahaha.
@@LenzTheMenzdude is talking about perry's body language whats that got to do with mistakes lmao
I CAN"T MAN THIS GUY HAS NORMAL CAST ON HIS ABILITIES
That's not that bad in some abilities, but ALL abilities ALL champs is insane work
@@AWPPERMoon1what I do is quick cast all abilities and then I have built in preset command for making them self cast and normal cast on the spot.
That in itself is not that bad. Depends on champion for one. Secondly, people overvalue these small things. Pinnacle of WoW pvp a Warlock was rank 1 and he was CLICKING his abilities which was already laughed at as some noob thing to do. It objectively is but it's not what will keep you from performing. Same with quick cast vs normal cast. On itself this is NOT what will keep you from winning.
@@Connoisseur7184 this comment is dumb lol, just because hes rank 1 doesnt mean what he does is correct lmao
@@AswollAlpaca You missed his entire point lol. The point was that miniscule things like that won't stop you from winning if you're good enough
Every mistake he makes is “unlucky” lmao
it's not easy trying to get a narcissist to admit any mistake. The fact you kept at it, didnt let him gaslight you and kept him on topic rather letting him move the conversation somewhere else is super admirable. You're a saint for putting up with it for as long as you did lol
FYI your next session will be exactly the same.
Bro compared himself to tarzaned
But then missed a crab while having smite to a sona 💀
I’m dead n I’m a trash jungler.. I want to learn the role this season no experience yet .. don’t know if I’m ready to get flamed
It's caled narcism, and it's a condition.
That’s what I was thinking. he might be special tho
@@flushot6496 he def is look at his username lmao
Ye, you can feel that resentment everytime he just goes silent after Perry points a mistake or tests his knowledge/decisions. And then as soon as his fragile ego mind comes up with an excuse, he just blurts it out in attempt to deflect.
Like 24:02-24:42 - Perry asks him why is he doing blue buff if he thinks Kindred's bot. The easiest (and sanest) response would be to simply repeat his thought process, which was probably along the lines "since Kindred is (should be) bot, I thought I had time to get it". And then Perry could've explained to him why that's incorrect. But since he already knows it's mistake since Perry is asking him about it, his ego doesn't allow him to admit it and thus open himself up to criticism and correction. So he instead he silently seethes for 6 seconds and then blurts out the stupid shit about getting CDR. Even the way he says it, is this annoyed passive-aggresive question response, as if he wants to show it's obviously the right choice, so why is Perry grilling him on it.
Truly a special kind of person.
It's actually called narcissism
I can't tell if he's delusional, trolling, or if this is staged but he angers me and I can't watch anymore. 15 min is all I could put up with.
Bro I’m 3 minutes in and I’m physically cringing 😭😭
I’m at 9 min idk how much longer I can take
I think the way Perry is angry and almost loosing it tells you it’s not staged,
WP Perry on not throwing anything or kicking this dude from the call 😂
That summoner name is a red flag lmaoo
“Why did you lose the first crab”
“My blitzcrank”
LOL
The student is challenger at making excuses and denying their mistakes
The emphasis on zeri heal 😂💀
You had a remarkable amount of patience with this guy man. Respect to you for that. I would have lost my mind minute 3
You probably shouldn't play league then.
@@smokeweebs8700 that is not the takeaway here. I climbed to master 100lp full deafening every game in top lane because people saying ridiculous shit and acting stupid tilts me. That’s avoidable. This student came to Perry and paid to troll him for 40min. I would have kicked him out minute 5 and found a real student
@@michaelleone5646 You probably shouldn't coach either.
@@michaelleone5646that absolutely is a valid takeaway, if youreable to lose your mind 3 minutes into a game, video or anything else, you absolutely lack the mental to play league or coach someone, and you admitted it by making the statements that you did
@@smokeweebs8700 Bro you ain't gonna tilt him by trolling. Move along.
"if my teammates were better they could carry me"
This is so hilariously painful to witness. How can he be so delusional
No way this guy hit master having that mental
1 word
5 letters
B o o s t
My head hurts I’m only at 6:58 blitz should be there I way…
Didn't laugh this hard in a while thanks for this video
This whole interaction reminds me of the "Snakes have legs" video. You show him where he is wrong and every time he just replies "snakes have legs".
i can totally see how a group of clowns team up, thow in a bit of money and come up with the best way to maximize perry's torture for every dime that was spent.
"8 perry mistakes, 4 real mistakes". Whaaaaattt??
39:10 He doesn't make the play because he thinks that a play relying on his teammate doing something correctly should not be attempted, while in 33:28, he preemptively E,Q's expecting the Zeri to bait the Volibear. Listen man, as a bronze/silver jungler, thinking that you are better than your elo and that what is keeping you hard stuck is your teammates is not it chief, you literally contradicted yourself one time doing a play expecting your teammate to do your niche secret plan that no one thought about except you, and the other one not doing the most obvious play thinking your teammates are going to screw it up. I am not saying I am good, I am in bronze/silver for a reason, but at least I admit I do mistakes when a better player than me points them out.
"A true master is an eternal student" -Master Yi
has to be trolling
How do you miss E+Q?
Because zeri is bad
hate it when my own adc makes me miss my j4 e+q combo's
The guy is beyond help but so entertaining to watch him and you mental boom 😂
15:10
"Where did she path from"
"The base."'
i must be complete garbage. i dont know how else someone like this can be masters.
I've been watching your videos over the last few weeks and haven't subbed yet. This is the one that converted me 🤣 Thanks for the top notch content dude.
How does homie have a rebuttal for EVERY single thing you say holy shit this makes my brain hurt
@@alcove600made my brain hurt too. Im low elo and I wanted to punch my monitor watching this 💀
@@deluxecsgo3022 if that guy's in masters, we're gonna be fine lmao
"and dont know how to play viego" haha im dying 😂
love the content perry, do you think you could do a guide on how to properly ping?
Ping it 3 times.
Will get to it soon!
LMAOOOOOOO. I LAUGHED SO HARD WATCHING THIS. i literally CANT
"HOW ARE YOU MISSING THIS CRAB?!" OMG too funny. somebody get this kid a copy of Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink
this needs more views lmao great video
this is like every masters I've seen, they have practically 0 understanding of the game. you're having to go way above and beyond league coaching for this guy. You literally have to be his therapist helping him dissolve his hyper delusional thinking and attitude. Which is something even highly trained professionals struggle with.
I can't understand how people like this even reach diamond let alone master.
Yeah it baffles me aswell. Im silver and I feel like I would outplay this guy in a ranked. i guess everyone can become masters if this guy made it that far. (Unless hes boosted, who knows)
@@deluxecsgo3022 masters players make the same type of mistakes silvers do. they just make 15 per game while silvers make 40
Everyone thinks it gets better as you rank up, but it doesn’t. People make less mistakes, but the ones they do make are punished far harder. If anything, it gets worse because egos are out of control at higher ranks. I’ve had chat muted for months in master/GM because the toxicity is worse than ever in this ELO.
@@Sydafexx7 facts
can tell he is trolling, hes smiling while saying everything and about to burst out laughing
@perryjg you are without a doubt one of the best quality jungle educational content creators, thanks for sharing your insights with us!
I just saw this and this is actually my favorite Perry video. I love you informative vids but this is magic.
this can't be true
The argument is kindred is stupid at void grubs getting an objective. Kindred out smites at void grubs and gets the fucking mark lmfaooo. I couldn’t stop laughing
This is the funniest coaching vid I have ever seen lmfao how is this dude THIS far in denial?!?
I would pay for Tarzand to coach this man and share the video omg loooool 😂😂😂
He already had someone who did this trolling. It lasted weeks.
Imagine Dante teaching him jungler that would be hilarious!!!! The hecarum jungler Jesus this would be comedy gold
What I love most about this is that I hear seeds of my own delusions in his statements, and his exaggerated versions seem to parody my own. The entire lesson is about what he did/didn't/needed to do, and all he could focus on was his allies.
i had a zed flame me for my WR in gold elo. He had over 2x more games played and 2% higher WR. I'm glad these players exist at all ranks
There's absolutely no way this is real. I'm 15 minutes in the video and I'm already losing my mind. So far there's nothing you can teach him to improve, there's no external factor that can fix or improve the state he's in.
It's absolutely wild to pay for a coaching session with the hope, not to be told how to improve, but for getting back pats and "no, sweetie you're perfect".
@@dazered59 Some people just don't want to get real feedback and tips, they just want to be told they're doing great, and sometimes they're willing to pay for that.
damn i discovered your channel and im binge watching your stuff. good vids man. and also you look like nilered lmao
Brother, your mental fortitude was tested on that day and you passed with challenger colors, respect.
It’s crazy that someone this delusional with this many insanely obvious mistakes is masters. Looks like silver games.
Thank you Perry, this was HILARIOUS
43:06 aaaas. Can’t believe you stoped the video right there. I’m curious to see if Sona stole the blue buff too. I bet she did cause he smited when it was full HP.
Doesn’t getting red first mess up the sequencing of his minor camp second respawns? When he goes to clear raptors the second time, his second Krugs won’t be up for another ~30s which makes his second clear awkward. Personally I would still do his clear and just try to be faster to crab through better clearing mechanics or be content with Kindred getting the crab. It’s not a big of a deal to be down 1 crab.
Well, there is only so much you can do to speed up your clear.
Also being faster at crab/first gank bot is more important.
right but when its kindred it is a big deal because she can get mark and praying that mark is at top crab is unreliable
I'd actually pay you money to tape yourself to a chair during with these stubborn guys cuz that would be just peak comedy seeing you try to go from the front of your chair to the back as the student gets progressively more unbearable
Perry you're the goat man, thank you for the content I'm improving day in and day out all thanks to you
What's funny about the grubs argument is that I'd likely have made the same play (not knowing red team POV, so maybe not if we had their POV). Looks like top has prio and has played well, mid is holding well, and the team as a whole is winning. Jungle isn't likely to be the 1v9 carry win-con, getting objectives and catapulting the team to win harder is.
I just love the descent into madness and mental despair at 33:33 for Perry
So this is only a POTENTIAL hypothesis, but this seems identical to how a meth baby argues with peoplewho give advice/try to help/coach others, 4 people ive been close to in my life came from parents who used meth before, during and after pregnancy, and they all acted like this when anyone tried to help them with anything. The point is, no matter how much one tries to grow up and out of this mental, their brain is actually permanently messed up from birth-death. This is not to be misconstrued with me stating that they should be absolved of all accountability, but this is a very real thing that people suffer from entirely because of something that was done before theyre even born. Yeah, its annoying, yeah its cringe, yeah its different (and again, only a hypothesis), but you cant control that youre a victim of it, you can only control whether you get help or not.
insane, legit crazy
Dude how can someone be so stubborn? Omg?!. BTW its just me or the guy sounds like James Mcavoy in the movie split when he is the guy who says Etcétera 😅
the best defination of lowmasta player
This looks like low fucking gold gameplay
@@Mackathnelow gold?? dude made more mistakes than i’ve seen in *silver*, lmao…
This is scary, I started playing and playing jungle a month ago I placed iron 3 and I’m more aware than this dude
Bro thats what im saying too. Im silver and I feel like Id literally smoke him in a game. How is he masters wtff
@@deluxecsgo3022 he does a lot right that you do wrong but you dont know you do wrong because you dont even know about it. Its easy to see it once someone points it out.
But I agree, its hard to believe he is at this elo with those mentals.
@@MauropotamosI don't know man, his plays look worse than some of my enemies in bronze. Like losing his crab to a fucking Sona??? While his smite is NOT even on cooldown? I'm 100% certain I don't see that kind of shit in most of my bronze games.
"WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO GASLIGHT ME?" 😭😭😭
I have coaching this Saturday, hope I do better than this guy.
It's kind of impressive how every mistake he makes, he spins it into how his opponents are too bad to play the way he thinks they should.
Perry was gonna bite on his knuckles so hard from what this dide said hahaha
never heard so much the phrase "ok but..." in a video lmao
Bro thought he booked in for a psychologist session 💀💀💀 bruh
take a shot every time he says “my blitzcrank”
No way this man is saying "bad rng" in league
When I get crit 3 times in a row by a lvl 1 Tryndamere.
@NeoMaddy I mean when he has 100% crit it really isn't rng anymore it's just a given LOL
@@donHoulio homie I said lvl 1. That's 50% crit at max fury.
PURE CINEMA
How in the world did you have the patience to spend 45 minutes arguing with this guy, superhuman coaching man
Perry is always so polite and helpful in his vids, but he goes SAVAGE mode here haha
“no but my blitzcrank…”
6:22
bro. this can’t be masters mentality im so dead idk if I can finish this video bro
its always nice to see that theres someone even crazier than us irl
Me when i try to coach my bronze friends and they argue everything lol
This might be one of the best league videos.
lets make a new rank; fill it with people that have this kind of mental and we'll call it emerald
Hahahaha dude blames his blitz for being late to scuttle 😂😂😂 did he consent to letting this replay get broadcasted? He must be sure he belongs in challenger hahahaha
This is painful asf my lord your patience game is top tier
I can confirm this is not scripted, the player is my friend :3
Get him a doctor, it’s terminal
Haha was he trolling perry though? No way somebody can be this close minded...
He needs therapy
@kylegwinner2191 you would be surprised at how closed-minded people can be, both on and off the Rift.
@@flushot6496 Yeah PerryJG will need therapy after this. Ohhh... You mean his student....
Hi Perry, when I initially don't agree with my coach (chippys) on a mistake, I explain my thought process at the time. Then he can explain the build up on the mistake better. Perhaps you could have asked him about his process of thinking, and try to adjust instead of saying you make mistake x here and mistake y there. Since this guy was only defensive about your coaching style. As a coach you should also be able to adapt to the situation ;). I bet he could not follow your train of thoughts as quickly as you could.
how does he clear 3:30 on viego? he doesn't know how to kite his camps. that's why he's stuck low masta
SO THIS IS WHAT MY JUNGLER THINKS WHEN I HAVE NO PRIO AND REQUESTS FOR HELP! (im only diamond, im worse)
all perry coachs are not avaiable dude broke him LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At some point you should have just said, "Hey man, my mistake for not asking if you were made of Teflon before we started this."
This was painful as hell to get through. Respect to you perry lol
This dudes ultimate form is Ultra Ego.
This video has convinced me that anyone below Challenger 1000LP is low elo trash.
30:13 you look so flabbergasted lmao good luck man
Ok Perry handled this one like a champ tbh
Actually uncoachable. Great videos man pls keep posting!
perry: "Is Zeri using heal the reason why you missed your EQ?"
this guy: "Low key yes"
me: WHAT??
33:31 HAHAHAHAHHAHAH Perry its about to have a metal crash
The problem this guy has is that he is kinda right. If you put him in a challenger lobby there would be less mistakes from both sides meaning the game would be more winnable. What he doesn’t understand tho is if everyone played perfect his small mistakes would be major ones. Like even if his teammates made less mistakes the ones he is making would increase in how significant they are to the game.
He is not a challenger and doesn't play in challenger so none of that shit matters. He uses the exact same arguments bronzes use as to why he isn't at his "deserved" rank
Everyone wants to BE challenger, but not everyone wants to BECOME challenger
IDK how you dealt with this guy, but I'm glad you're charging him for it. What an ahole.
hey! I am actually interested in your suggestions for a viego build for patch 14.10, I’ve always been a krakenslayer viego player but I’ve actually liked bork more this time, what would you recommend for other items? I actually like a more bruisery type build