I haven't seen whether this is a gas seal revolver or not, but it's design could certainly lend itself to being one. While not a feature today, it could actually get a threaded barrel to act as a suppressor host. Silencing a .357 Magnum seems like a pointless effort, but .38 Special is naturally subsonic. Not making this a viable suppressor host would be a missed opportunity and remove one of the only obvious use cases for it
I might be reading into this too much but even with Bruen, we're seeing more looming assault weapon bans in states. With those in place, new semi auto pistols won't be able to be suppressed, but a revolver could be exempt *depending on the specific area's legislation.* I don't believe this is Zenk's intention, but more and more manufacturers and even new brands could benefit from making "next best option" type firearms for states with more strict gun control. Not just pistol grip fins, but new and innovative designs like that lever action that takes AR uppers.
The question is not “can we do it” the question is “should we do it”? I think this will quickly become an obscure footnote in firearms history, just like the older examples that you showed in the video.
Looks perfect to sit in a RV glove compartment for years without cylinder chambers filling with foreign material and risking damage when firing like a regular revolver would.
Fun sci-fi looking range gun/conversation piece. It's a toy. I'm sure it can be used for defense just fine for the first 6 rounds, but it's a weird niche gun at best.
One thing I would REALLY like a competent gun maker do, is bring back a very durable and reliable TOP-BREAK revolver, one with a good ejector action that pops the shells and makes it easy to reload and get back into action. One with simple, durable, and no-brainer take on a latch system to hold the cylinder in place while operating. The traditional DA/SA revolver designs are good ones. I think Chiappa has a pretty solid design with the bottom-fired cylinder and it makes a very noticeable difference in how a revolver operates. I do think there are other revolver-like innovations that could come out but for whatever reason (usually financial and the standard no-risk conventional thinking of mankind in general) it seems like revolver development has been stale for a long time and bottom-feeding plastic 9's is all anyone wants to put out. Just like the music industry, everything is a very predictable safe version of hip-hop electronic dub step junk that can be whipped up on a computer synthesizer and distributed to 9 million radio stations in half a week. Boring. When a few corporations own everything, also boring. It's the opposite of American essence, a pile of small businesses in competition instead of a half dozen giant corporations dominating everything. These things are what happens when economic risk is off the charts, the value of currency is tanking, and traditional manufacturing is trying to survive. Lack of invention, lack of innovation, lack of risk taking.
I agree. A top break design has a lot to lend itself, in particular, automatic rejection and the ability to open it up one handed. The main disadvantage of the top-break design is that it is nowhere near as strong as a solid frame, as most of the stresses put on a revolver during firing is on the top strap. This does sound like a solvable problem to me, and it looks like this revolver has solved it given it is a top break .357 (that, or it hasn't been stress tested enough to expose any problems with it's design)
@@grahamohea2424 Per the pictures online, and drawing from my mechanical engineering experience, I don't yet see how this Zenk will function in loading, ejecting, firing mechanism, and dealing with all the dirty gasses from the cylinder gap. The top break designs I can recall have been either low pressure .45 Colt (current reproductions by Uberti) and .22LR (discontinued designs by H&R). To find something in .357mag or .44mag is yet to be seen. If manufacturing companies can design folding knives locking mechanism to withstand many hundreds of pounds hanging on a small pin and function just fine, I think a revolver manufacturer can design a top-break latch that will withstand the pressures of a .357magnum.
@@actually_a_circle As far as I'm aware, the J-frame has always been a solid frame, even going back to the New Century models. I'd love to be corrected, though, if you have some sources you could point to that shows this
What do I like about the zenk? It's small yet has a longer barrel! Would hopefully stay clean because I usually pocket carry. I carry a s&w 60 with a 1 & 7/8 barrel & It's accurate enough for defense. But a 4" + barrel would be better on the farm. I need "snake shot" for copperhead. Thus "revolver". Bear are suddenly appearing too close. Usually, not a problem. I won't hunt them anymore, but they are "unpredictable".
I'm not really sure how I feel about this gun. It may be awesome, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it works. It's kinda similar to a Schofield in the way it has a break open design, but how does the trigger connect to the firing pin? That's what I've not figured out yet. After SHOT show, maybe you can make a video explaining how the thing works, because I'm stumped.
I guess if your dead set on carrying nothing less potent than .357 mag then it could be a slimmer alternative with a longer barrel than your 2in snubby. I don't see a big market for it.
It's nice to see innovation but this one probably won't be around next year. Normally this type of design creates a longer and heavier trigger pull than a traditional revolver. Double action only does not make everyone happy in the revolver world
I see this as something probably good for a person with zero experience, which there are people like this in need of a firearm. Elderly people are starting to see how maybe they might need something now days with all of the home break ins due to the economy. There's little to go wrong with it being revolver reliable but no burns or prevention of rotation of cylinder. Six for sure but no reload for the person who wants something but has no experience or desire to learn any skills. Like here mom or dad, it has .38 Special in it, pull trigger if you need to.
Thats s good point. As long as the trigger isnt horrendous. It will probably go bang just about every time for sure. And yeah, .38 would be easy enough🦃👍👊
Push that cylinder back a little more, give it a 10 inch barrel, make the cylinder a top loading detachable magazine, chamber it in 45LC / 410 and I would be interested.....
that trigger looks engineered to do the opposite of their intention, just like their "recoil & muzzle-rise/lift reducer" 😂 rename this thing the "opposite" 😂 or "contrasting oxymoron" 😂
I see a use for this style of pistol. But it would have to be extended to six inches. I think it would make an excellent hunting pistol because of the compact design. It wouldn't be getting in the way when you're trudging thru the swamp and dense growth. Soon as I saw that, that's what immediately came to mind otherwise. Meh.
They should have started with a 22. 22's are cheaper to make and they can test the market to see how well they sell then if the 22 is a success they will have plenty of money and time to introduce the .357 version.
Hand grenade I couldn't stop laughing. What I see in the industry is a lot of been-there-done-that. Waiting and wanting something refreshing. Will keep watching thank you. Hand grenade
These companies that create new guns just price them high against proven markets. Sure they have to make their R&D back but selling a couple guns at premium prices is not working either. Maybe the high volume low profit concept may work. Get it out there to be proven. They could always make premium models later.
hmm....we will see how it works in the real world, i mean in theory they seem to be right, bore axis is lower so lower or straight back recoil impulse, so there should be less nozzle flip, a slightly longer barrel due to the different design compared to other guns, so a bit more energy maybe...who knows, maybe its a good gun, even it looks a bit odd to us right now, i like that they try new things, trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak.
@@theturkeysopinion Ouch, thats a bit of a dissapointment, i mean if i show something like that, i should at least have a working prototype - maybe they were just looking for investors, or public reactions to a gun like that....as you said before, the odd gun lovers alone are usually not enough to make something like that work financially, if you wanna make some coin in the prozess aswell i mean and not just build it.
I agree, kind of. The Rhino has the least muzzle flip. But this may have less felt recoil like when you have smooth low bore axis birds head grips and the like on 44s. It bucks more but feels nicer
My question is whether this is a real product or just a wish? Is there any production going on? Is there any date for delivery? This seems like a potential product looking for money? I like the idea but haven't seen a single article for about 10 months and there are no updates on the internet. I have written their customer service three times over the past year and have never received a response.
Novelty gun kind of cool it might be worth something someday? I remember those 4 barrel COP derringers I wish I would have bought one they didn’t produce many.
Im just wondering who funded the design and manufacturing of this? I would like to see or hear the pitch to investors who funded this. No way this sells enough to be revenue positive. Yeah, I am a business auditor for investors.
I haven't seen whether this is a gas seal revolver or not, but it's design could certainly lend itself to being one. While not a feature today, it could actually get a threaded barrel to act as a suppressor host. Silencing a .357 Magnum seems like a pointless effort, but .38 Special is naturally subsonic. Not making this a viable suppressor host would be a missed opportunity and remove one of the only obvious use cases for it
True👍👊🦃
I might be reading into this too much but even with Bruen, we're seeing more looming assault weapon bans in states. With those in place, new semi auto pistols won't be able to be suppressed, but a revolver could be exempt *depending on the specific area's legislation.* I don't believe this is Zenk's intention, but more and more manufacturers and even new brands could benefit from making "next best option" type firearms for states with more strict gun control. Not just pistol grip fins, but new and innovative designs like that lever action that takes AR uppers.
The question is not “can we do it” the question is “should we do it”? I think this will quickly become an obscure footnote in firearms history, just like the older examples that you showed in the video.
The answer is very often "why not? It's better than crying about the fact we did do it..."
Looks perfect to sit in a RV glove compartment for years without cylinder chambers filling with foreign material and risking damage when firing like a regular revolver would.
That thing is Atrocious, I'm sure Sootch loves it though.😂
Lol. Spit out my drink when I read this.
Fun sci-fi looking range gun/conversation piece. It's a toy. I'm sure it can be used for defense just fine for the first 6 rounds, but it's a weird niche gun at best.
Earned my sub. Seen a few of the other videos, but really appreciate the facts of the intro. And tackling this odd ball topic with great ability
One thing I would REALLY like a competent gun maker do, is bring back a very durable and reliable TOP-BREAK revolver, one with a good ejector action that pops the shells and makes it easy to reload and get back into action. One with simple, durable, and no-brainer take on a latch system to hold the cylinder in place while operating.
The traditional DA/SA revolver designs are good ones. I think Chiappa has a pretty solid design with the bottom-fired cylinder and it makes a very noticeable difference in how a revolver operates. I do think there are other revolver-like innovations that could come out but for whatever reason (usually financial and the standard no-risk conventional thinking of mankind in general) it seems like revolver development has been stale for a long time and bottom-feeding plastic 9's is all anyone wants to put out. Just like the music industry, everything is a very predictable safe version of hip-hop electronic dub step junk that can be whipped up on a computer synthesizer and distributed to 9 million radio stations in half a week. Boring. When a few corporations own everything, also boring. It's the opposite of American essence, a pile of small businesses in competition instead of a half dozen giant corporations dominating everything.
These things are what happens when economic risk is off the charts, the value of currency is tanking, and traditional manufacturing is trying to survive. Lack of invention, lack of innovation, lack of risk taking.
I agree. A top break design has a lot to lend itself, in particular, automatic rejection and the ability to open it up one handed. The main disadvantage of the top-break design is that it is nowhere near as strong as a solid frame, as most of the stresses put on a revolver during firing is on the top strap. This does sound like a solvable problem to me, and it looks like this revolver has solved it given it is a top break .357 (that, or it hasn't been stress tested enough to expose any problems with it's design)
@@grahamohea2424 Per the pictures online, and drawing from my mechanical engineering experience, I don't yet see how this Zenk will function in loading, ejecting, firing mechanism, and dealing with all the dirty gasses from the cylinder gap.
The top break designs I can recall have been either low pressure .45 Colt (current reproductions by Uberti) and .22LR (discontinued designs by H&R). To find something in .357mag or .44mag is yet to be seen.
If manufacturing companies can design folding knives locking mechanism to withstand many hundreds of pounds hanging on a small pin and function just fine, I think a revolver manufacturer can design a top-break latch that will withstand the pressures of a .357magnum.
Yes thank you. Did you know back in the day they had j frame hammerles top breaks. That sounds perfect for defense
@@actually_a_circle As far as I'm aware, the J-frame has always been a solid frame, even going back to the New Century models. I'd love to be corrected, though, if you have some sources you could point to that shows this
@@grahamohea2424 there are pictures of old ads from IJ (I think it might be one of there copycat companies) that show a full size herless Schofield
i was thinking the exact same thing you said about it doing the exact opposite
Doesn't look like there is much space at the back for the firing pin and i can see light strikes being a problem.
The idea is over 100 years old, and over that time no one has refined it. Seems to me it was already abandoned, probably for a good reason.
Yup. I agree👍👊🦃
Thanks for the info value turkey's opinion 👍
EASIER to keep clean by design!
No notches in the cylinder (stronger) !
Longer barrel 4"!
Yes I am interested!
What do I like about the zenk? It's small yet has a longer barrel!
Would hopefully stay clean because I usually pocket carry. I carry a s&w 60 with a 1 & 7/8 barrel & It's accurate enough for defense.
But a 4" + barrel would be better on the farm.
I need "snake shot" for copperhead. Thus "revolver".
Bear are suddenly appearing too close.
Usually, not a problem.
I won't hunt them anymore, but they are "unpredictable".
Given how revolvers catastrophically malfunction… I just like my hands too much.
I'm not really sure how I feel about this gun. It may be awesome, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it works. It's kinda similar to a Schofield in the way it has a break open design, but how does the trigger connect to the firing pin? That's what I've not figured out yet. After SHOT show, maybe you can make a video explaining how the thing works, because I'm stumped.
We have to see how it shoots and how safe it is .
I guess if your dead set on carrying nothing less potent than .357 mag then it could be a slimmer alternative with a longer barrel than your 2in snubby. I don't see a big market for it.
Hmmm🤔 i see that a little👍👊🦃
It's called innovation
Kinda👍👊🦃
It's nice to see innovation but this one probably won't be around next year. Normally this type of design creates a longer and heavier trigger pull than a traditional revolver. Double action only does not make everyone happy in the revolver world
It’s cool but can’t beat my EDC- SW327PC- 8 shots 357mag and lightweight.
I’ll reserve judgment until I see it reloaded. That could be fast.
I see this as something probably good for a person with zero experience, which there are people like this in need of a firearm. Elderly people are starting to see how maybe they might need something now days with all of the home break ins due to the economy. There's little to go wrong with it being revolver reliable but no burns or prevention of rotation of cylinder. Six for sure but no reload for the person who wants something but has no experience or desire to learn any skills. Like here mom or dad, it has .38 Special in it, pull trigger if you need to.
Thats s good point. As long as the trigger isnt horrendous. It will probably go bang just about every time for sure. And yeah, .38 would be easy enough🦃👍👊
Push that cylinder back a little more, give it a 10 inch barrel, make the cylinder a top loading detachable magazine, chamber it in 45LC / 410 and I would be interested.....
that trigger looks engineered to do the opposite of their intention, just like their "recoil & muzzle-rise/lift reducer" 😂
rename this thing the "opposite" 😂 or "contrasting oxymoron" 😂
I think it is an interesting design, looking forward to a review.
I see a use for this style of pistol. But it would have to be extended to six inches.
I think it would make an excellent hunting pistol because of the compact design.
It wouldn't be getting in the way when you're trudging thru the swamp and dense growth.
Soon as I saw that, that's what immediately came to mind otherwise. Meh.
The gun would be better with a 3.8 inch barrel. Just like all handguns are better with a 3.8 inch barrel.
Lol. I love my 3.8!👍👊🦃
They should have started with a 22. 22's are cheaper to make and they can test the market to see how well they sell then if the 22 is a success they will have plenty of money and time to introduce the .357 version.
Hand grenade I couldn't stop laughing. What I see in the industry is a lot of been-there-done-that. Waiting and wanting something refreshing. Will keep watching thank you. Hand grenade
"Today on Forgotten Weapons..."
Yup👊👍🦃
THAT TOOK YEARS TO DESIGN!
Well, if I had designed it!
That is a weird one for sure ! Is there a video of someone firing it ?
Not that ive seen👊👍🦃
These companies that create new guns just price them high against proven markets. Sure they have to make their R&D back but selling a couple guns at premium prices is not working either. Maybe the high volume low profit concept may work. Get it out there to be proven. They could always make premium models later.
hmm....we will see how it works in the real world, i mean in theory they seem to be right, bore axis is lower so lower or straight back recoil impulse, so there should be less nozzle flip, a slightly longer barrel due to the different design compared to other guns, so a bit more energy maybe...who knows, maybe its a good gun, even it looks a bit odd to us right now, i like that they try new things, trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak.
It was a mess at shot show. Unfortunate. They don't even ever working model. Just a plastic prototype. Not even a prototype just a whatever...👊🦃👍
@@theturkeysopinion Ouch, thats a bit of a dissapointment, i mean if i show something like that, i should at least have a working prototype - maybe they were just looking for investors, or public reactions to a gun like that....as you said before, the odd gun lovers alone are usually not enough to make something like that work financially, if you wanna make some coin in the prozess aswell i mean and not just build it.
I agree, kind of. The Rhino has the least muzzle flip. But this may have less felt recoil like when you have smooth low bore axis birds head grips and the like on 44s. It bucks more but feels nicer
It’s for me.
My question is whether this is a real product or just a wish? Is there any production going on? Is there any date for delivery? This seems like a potential product looking for money? I like the idea but haven't seen a single article for about 10 months and there are no updates on the internet. I have written their customer service three times over the past year and have never received a response.
I think it looks cool, at least its not another Glock/AR photocopy
Thats true👍👊🦃
On second thought, doesn’t look safe or easy to shoot well.
Novelty gun kind of cool it might be worth something someday? I remember those 4 barrel COP derringers I wish I would have bought one they didn’t produce many.
What about a polymer revolver, maybe that should be the next innovation. 🤔
Made exactly 4 me
I believe that revolver could be successfully machined with CNC equipment!
The barrel could actually stay a rectangular.
Yes, it's practical design!
Never know until you shoot it, I guess. Any thoughts on the FN 510 10MM?
It’s for me.
Only people that collect unique firearms will buy that thing. It will go the way of Hudson.
Unfortunately I don't think this thing will ever get out there. I need to do a video on that. Shot show did not look good for this thing.🦃👊👍
Tried and true .357 dessert eagle
Buy it and leave it unfired in the box, be worth a small fortune in 20 years.
Right. Unfortunately I don't think they're ever going to get this thing made.👍👊🦃
I'm a buyer of weird guns
Cylinder gap gonna get ya
Your insights are Excellent..Only thing that is important,, what about price ?? Did they achieve a price that justifies the design. ?
Kinda cool
Im just wondering who funded the design and manufacturing of this? I would like to see or hear the pitch to investors who funded this. No way this sells enough to be revenue positive. Yeah, I am a business auditor for investors.
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I'LL OPEN THE BID! $1,000!
Lol. I bet it's gonna cost more than that👍👊🦃
@@theturkeysopinion
LOL! Correct but I have been to auctions, before!
I have a 94 LA That I paid $260 for & its nice!
Threaded barrel and a suppressor. Interesting to me.
Its a weirdo but who knows?👊👍🦃
Ka is a wheel
And all things serve the beam !👍🦃👊
No interest for me but I’m not a wheel gun guy .. not knocking it .. just not for me
What up first
Might need gloves when shooting this to keep the cylinder flash from sindging ones hand
To ugly for me to buy.
Whether it works or not, i don't like it at all. Just something for a collector in my opinion.