Beretta M93R: Exploring the 'Robocop Auto 9', with firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2023
- So often arms designers get automatic pistols wrong. But, there's a lot right about Beretta's M93 Raffica. Despite receiving Jonathan's seal of approval, the M93R never really went anywhere, other than featuring in one of our Keeper of Firearms and Artillery's favourite cult films: RoboCop.
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I wish they made a "Night at the Museum" movie at the Royal Armories with Jonathan and Ian.
Where there armories are attacked by terrorists and Jonathan and Ian have to repel them with bizarre and impractical firearms
Yup and with guest appearances from other curators, equipped from their respective departments.
@@PURPLECATDUDE7734 So Night at The Museum meets Home Alone?
it'd be a short movie
ua-cam.com/video/gqHFi-8UPw8/v-deo.htmlsi=JZGGLpZJd-Nq0K5b … Almost 😂 At least Ian posted a trailer…
I like how he handles an everyday airsoft replica like any other piece of the museum's collection.
good firearms practice is generally drilled to where it's beyond the point of conscious thought.
also 'treat every gun as if it's loaded' applies even on a hollywood set where there are replicas.
i mean, shot with a airsoft replica firearm can blind you if shot in the eye. So 100% still need to be safe with them.
@@sleepCirclethere's an alec baldwin joke to be made here somewhere lol
Because he is as much a "firearms expert" as my grandmother.
that's an amazing toy
The 93R very much has its genesis in the "Years Of Lead" and then the Mafia trials of the late 80s and 90s. The Carbinieri were suddenly stuck with having to provide protection details to politicians, business leaders and most importantly - judges. The 93R and the SPECTRE SMG were both specifically marketed for close protection duties. "La Scorta".
Everyone should be familiar with the Years of Lead. A decades long insurgency started by communist terrorists, on par with the commie insurgency that plagued Malaysia from 1968 to 1990.
I'd buy THAT for a dollar!
Your move, creep
What about this?
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The world needs more collaborations with The Keeper and GunJesus.
The new Robocop game Rogue City is fantastic. It sits between Robocop 2 and 3 and hugely expands on Murphy's story while retaining all the satire, humour and bloody carnage of the films. Peter Weller back as the voice of Robo is te icing on the cake. The graphics looks fantastic.
It's my next one in line, as soon as I finish the System Shock remake. I wasn't really planning on it since I expected it to be bad (Robocop FPS games don't have a good track record...), but apparently they pulled off the impossible and it's really good. Gonna know soon enough :D
I’d buy that for a dollar.
Sad then it’s approximately $50.
@@fallingwater the same studio that made the RoboCop game also made a terminator game and it's really good too.
@@ignatz14and d9n't forget they started with Rambo which was rail shooter, so it's nice to see them do better and better games as they gain more budget ;)
I wonder what 80/90 classic series they embark on doing next?
Maybe Die Hard? 😉
I really wanna play it but my PC is a bit of a shitbox by now, not sure if it could run it well on low settings even and then I'm worried it would just look horrible if it could. Its gonna have to wait I think, even though I do run some newer games just fine.
Fun fact, the 93r is Claire's pistol in Resident Evil: Code Veronica. You can find the stock and that gives you the ability to fire it in bursts. It's also infamously effective in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 where it's known as the Raffaca.
It’s also Aya Brea’s pistol in Parasite Eve 2. No stock but you can fire three rounds or single shot.
I was about to comment that! Claire's Browning from 2 was confiscated before the game's events, and the M93R served as its replacement. As for the game's other/true protagonist, Chris Redfield, he traded in his Samurai Edge standard he got from the Mansion incident in favour of a Glock 17.
Ok k gotta know what the fuck is tingispingis? Really asking. No offense meant. I like the handle but had to ask.
Fun Fact, In Robocop 2,The M93R is in the background during the early gun store robbery scene before Robocop shows up and the guy is yelling about not believing he can hear the cops. It is up on the peg board on the wall. Funny they took every other gun, but not the one that did them in.
it is also used in "saving 80000 gold in another world" where the main character (making use of the folding foregrip) empties the magazine into an assassin and the armour does nothing
I've loved that gun ever since I was a kid, luckily enough I was able to buy myself an airsoft replica this year after almost 3 decades and it's amazing. I handle the gun daily and have it proudly displayed in my home. The three round burst mechanism is an absolute work of genius, there's guy on youtube who has made a working replica minus the burst and put it in a box labeled OCP, it looks brilliant. Thank you Jonathan for covering the Auto-9 and M93R, it's an early Christmas present.
Tbh my headcannon excuse for barrel extension of Auto 9 compared to normal Beretta was that barrel extension houses stabilizating gyroscope and direct feed camera under the barrel.
One of the two iconic sidearms of 1980's alongside Terminator 1911 with unsustainable for the time laser sight.
Oooh. Like a Gimbal for the muzzle?
@@josedorsaith5261 more like second contact point. Robo have super strength so to speak, however he still holds it by one hand.
Idk if he even needs to gimbal the gun since his hand already acts as smartgun mount.
Maybe nitrogen cooling sleeve is in there too? And certainly MRD too. Murphy sends a LOT of 9mm downrange so he needs all the help he can get to keep this thing precise.
@@TheArklyteyeah, when he aims the joints of his arm lock in place making it stiff like the mounting of a machine gun.
Don’t forget the 40 watt plasma rifle.
The Terminator 1911 had a huge hidden battery with a cable.
The pure, clean lines of the Beretta shine thru the robocop additions. The Beretta 92, 93 are some of the most handsome guns of recent design and issue
I love them too, but when you examine them closely, it is little more than a reimagining of a Walther P38/P1.
@@r2bbrak Ya, that might be my least favorite part of the design, the barrel just kinda sittin in a hole in the slide just looks different to me, but not in a good way
@@cascadianrangers728They’re also insanely heavy for what they are.
Excellent video on my favorite sci-fi gun!
The Texas connection with the 93R is actually very apt. Dallas City Hall was used as OCP Headquarters in the first movie!
Always thought the closest gun to Robocop's in looks, size & intimidation was the AMT AutoMag III. I know it's a bit fire-bally at the front, but that was part of why I loved it.
Thanks Johnathan for taking off that grip panel and showing us how this brilliant little bit of engineering works! FUN FACT: In the movie BROKEN ARROW (1996), starring John Travolta and Christian Slater, John Travolta's character uses one of these guns on screen in a few action scenes WITHOUT the butt stock!
I hope you could cover Dredd's Lawgiver in the Karl Urban film. I love that design so much! And, to me, it's one heck of an underrated sci-fi pistol. The sound design of that firearm is immaculate! ❤
The 2012 version of the Lawgiver is notable for being as close to the comic version whilst still looking realistic. Literally, all they got rid of were the scope and dial.
hope the dial returns in the sequel, how else would you tell at a glance your Hi-Ex from your Glue rounds??!@@NebLleb
Mack Bolan was how I got to really know the 93r. That and the 44 Automag. Absolutely love both of these firearms. Wish I could own them.
World of guns was such a fantastic collaboration. After trying it out I can easily recommend others to as well. Not only is it interesting seeing the mechanisms of different firearms but I found it extraordinarily helpful in understanding the guns I own, from the detailed takedown to the operation. It really put into perspective firearms I have owned and shot for years in a way I hadn't seen before.
Just download it on your recommendation
@@joshgreen2164 Cool. Just wanted to point out too that I am in no way connected to the company or have any financial motivation to recommend it. I have just been really impressed with how it works in 3D, I'm a visual learner so it helped a ton seeing how everything works and giving me allot more confidence to perform a full disassemble on some of my rifles. Sure beats looking at paper diagrams.
Excellent, detailed explanation of the mechanism, Jonathon. A rare, fascinating piece.
I still love taht one of the production guys just had a 93R in his car when they were shooting the movie and looking for a replacement prop for the deagle
If i remember correctly from the comic, bullets were reloaded from a window in his hand that fed into the pistol grip allowing him to fire full auto and burst auto with continuous feed.
How freaking cool was that!!!
I saw the title and thought this is going to be good and I'd like to say thank you Jonathan, people like you make UA-cam a great place and that UA-cam doesn't give you the recognition you deserve thanks again 👍🇭🇲
The Beretta M93R and Desert Eagle were the guns that made hollywood in the eighties. 😎
in my head: "hey whats about the blade r...." - and then he mentions it
I love this man, protect him at all costs
I am absolutely in love with this gun. have been for years.
Jonathan has to be the most bad ass museums guy, on the planet 😂
I'm right there with you Jonathan, Pulse rifle, Auto 9 and then blade runner
Someone actually made a semi auto version> @tauruslove86
They also made our pulse rifle 😏
Surprised to learn the ratchet was essentially grafted on!
I'd have to say it looks more like the nose of a 1930s Art Deco car, like the Cord 812, than it does a coffin, but at the same time, those car fronts are commonly called a "coffin nose". Which might be what the designers meant more than an actual coffin.
The actual 93R with stock made it in the movie as well I remember a scene in a gun shop where there was one hanging on the wall
Jonathan, you have no idea how long I've been waiting to see this video from you.
A close friend of mine wrote an article for "Machine Gun News" in the late 1980s while the movie Robocop was being filmed in Dallas, Texas. He was given access to the original blank-firing prop guns to photograph for the article. In addition to the prop version, several live-firing versions were built by my late friend Tim Bixler. Tim then worked with designer Utah Conner (yes, that's his name) to build a folding SMG that would be used in the Robocop II movie. This gun was the UC-9, which subsequently became the DEB M21, following Connor's collaboration with David E. Boatman (DEB) to build more guns. That project waxed and waned for years. After Conner died it was assumed by many that the project had died with him. As it turned out, several dozen registered receivers were eventually located by an enterprising individual who managed to acquire them and have them built into fully functioning SMGs of a revised/improved design. As you can expect, both the Robocop Beretta pistols and the folding SMGs are rare as hen's teeth and command quite a princely sum on the collector's market today.
That’s awesome! I’m the ‘Brad’ that Jonathan refers to in the video and I supplied some pics from that MGN article and some general Auto-9 trivia. I also own a screen used blank fire Auto-9 that I’ve screen matched to the first movie. Everything but the frame, which is a Taurus PT92 used for display. That’s how I bought it but I have plans for it.
@@rowbownerd Brad, which issue of MGN was it? I contacted Small Arms Review (MGN was renamed SAR in 1997), but their online archives do not extend to MGN. They do have some warehoused copies of MGN, but even they don't remember which issue I was talking about. If you could provide me with the year and month, I'll look through my own back issues (assuming I can locate them). If I can't find the copy, I'll ask SAR if they have one I can buy.
@@Paladin1873 My reply keeps getting removed. I think it’s the July 1990 issue. I’ll have to check when I get home. I know it’s 1990 and the cover is yellow.
@@rowbownerd Thanks.
@@Paladin1873 Every once in a blue moon that issue will pop up on eBay which is where I got mine. I wonder who ended up with those live fire Robo guns….that’s what I’m planning on doing to my movie prop, but semi auto.
Great video, nice to see a lighthearted look at firearm history.
Oh that promo code at 7:10 still worked ! Super interesting how 93R works. Brilliant engineering.
Imagine. Auto 9 in one hand, Equilibrium Cleric pistol in the other ... eat your heart out, Mr. Woo.
3:40 being able to barely see the bottom of the mag is honestly really nice aesthetically.
I'd love to see you compare the RoboCop Auto 9 to the Automatic Berettas in Equilibrium. Sort of a similar idea but a very different look.
Has the Department of Purity sanctioned this idea? If so carry on, if not you might want to start running.
Totally agree Jonathan, Pulse rifle & Auto 9
I remember reading the Mack Bolan books and how he carried a 93R. the "Beretta belle" always have wanted one, unlikely to happen.
Awesome! I love these vids! Johnathon explains even the most complex operations so simply!
Vastly educational. I wrote for The Executioner series of books for 15 plus years and the Raffica was in almost every novel and was fired lots and lots. You did a great job, as always.
That's how I knew this gun, Mack Bolan!
Hardest Jonathan thumbnail yet
The finish on that 93R is absolutely beautiful 😍
Pretty neat! Thanks for the mention, love the video.
Wow, 93R!! I fell in love with it when it was used by John Travolta in Broken Arrow and Mark Wahlberg in The Big Hit. Managed to get the blow back BB replica with working 3 round burst back then as well. This video sure brings back memories. 👍👍👍👍
Interesting note (which you probably already know) they originally intended to use a Desert Eagle MKI as Robo's gun which at the time had only appeared in about 5 or 6 other movies, however despite its huge size still looked small in Robo's hand. The general belief is that Clarence Boddikas silenced Desert Eagle was actually an early attempt to enlarge the gun. Ultimately they went with the modified 93R thank god! They still utilised the hired Desert Eagles in the film making Robocop probably the first film to fully show the Desert Eagle well on screen.
Worth noting also that KSC also made a 'cap firing' version of the Auto 9 which fully cycles and ejects shells as well as features the 3 round burst. I have one and they are vreat fun!!
Texas is the right part of the USA for Robocop because it was filmed in Dallas mostly.
I never knew that! Just looked it up and some of the filming was in August. Jesus, I hope Peter Weller didn't have to suit up until later in the year. Can you imagine wearing that suit in August, in Dallas?
"think you can outsmart a bullet"
If in another country, sure .
M93R was my favourite secondary in BF3, insane pistol
This thumbnail is glorious
Someone get Adam Savage on the phone, see if he wants to make these guys a movie accurate Auto 9
I could help Adam greatly with that task 😉
Saved yourself from a lot of grief with the Blade Runner blaster mention 😊
the purple bluing on the internal parts and controls is on my beretta 85bb too, one of my favorite things about it
1:35 I'd love to see Jonathan do a video about the M41A Pulse Rifle!!
I believe he did.
He did on his video game reaction
ua-cam.com/video/M5YylyfzXYQ/v-deo.htmlsi=WP6Lpf2_ngxohScF
There's a short Royal Armouries video, from 6 years ago about this. It was also on display when I visited the museum in Leeds back then.
@@DavidRoberts01341 Oh snap! I gotta go find it! Thanks for letting me know
Great video and I think your explanation is 100% better than any software 😅
This gun is so beloved it's taken and renamed in Shadowrun universe as the _Ares Predator_ .
"hangin on for grim death" first time hearing it put that way im totally adding thus to my lexicon.
This thing is a beast. Great to see a vid pop up for it after I was checking out some robocop gun stuff for a friend talking about recreating the likes in a game.
Iconic guns......... Dude, Im not sure how you could have ignore Judge Dredds Lawgiver. As a kid I would run around the house with the PS1 official blaster pretending it was the lawgiver. Shout Rapid fire. :) (Note: I actually used to shout rabbit fire, because that's what I thought Sylvester Stallone said).
If I remember correctly, I once saw the M93R in an episode of "The Professionals".
The crazy thing about it was: Lewis Collins shot a fleeing IRA terrorist in a car one-handed without a shoulder rest
with the "natural" result of not even hitting the car
The 93R has always been one of those "I wish I had one" sort of firearms.
I read Mac Bolan books back in the 80s and always found it way more practical than an Automag..lol
Or the Glock 18. On the 93R you have a pretty well thought out machine pistol which nobody has really done and only the Stechkin really compares at all to. Sadly stupid US firearms laws would mean even a semi-auto only 93R clone would have to be an registered SBR or AOW.
the Judge Dredd Lawgiver mk2 and the gun of the Grammaton Clerics from Equilibrium also great beretta movie guns.
There is a mafioso KSC aluminum conversion kit for an all metal version of the prop that I picked up in 2017 and it’s a beauty! Gives this piece a nice weight of 3.6 lbs.
I have this airsoft gun as well. There’s a company called Mafioso (?) that makes a conversion kit that switches many of the parts to billet aluminum. Totally changes the feel of the gun. Feels legit and realistic. Great video, well done! 👍
The 93R is Soooo COOL!!!
Texas isn't really the wrong part of the US! Movie was supposed to take place in Detroit but was actually filmed in Texas :)
I've loved the 93R since I first saw it in Nikita (1990)
'second only to the pulse rifle' I agree!
The thumbnail really is perfect to set the stage 😁
Fantastic video! Very interesting and engrossing! 😀
You could make a threaded barrel extension that fits onto a properly threaded barrel used with a suppressor. I mean, that's basically what a suppressor is: a barrel extension that happens to have baffles and chambers to allow controlled gas expansion. They do, in fact, make barrel extensions for threaded barrel rifles that use standard muzzle threading.
I have liked the idea of the 93R ever since reading the old Mack Bolan books as a young kid. Knowing that the Auto 9 (another favorite from my childhood was built around it is even better. Another bit of geek tie-in is that Shadowrun's Ares Predator was drawn to look like Robocop's pistol. All this just makes the 93R far more iconic in fiction than it ever seemed to be in real life.
It's cool how similar the internals are the the airsoft replica I've had for many years. thing is a right bugger to keep working no doubt due to that burst mechanism replicated at a far cheaper price.
I shot a working model in .380 of the Robocop gun. It was ported and compensated, but done with the Beretta .380 and custom built auto sear by Archangel Metalwerks. It was intended to be exported to Argentina or Italy where limitations on caliber exist, or did back then, and the sear could be pulled and replaced with an existing sear.
Hi and thanks for the info on the guns suff i didn't know.
this was neat
My favourite side firearm during all my years in AirSoft. Right next to the MK23 SOCOM (for silent missions).
Some friends called me "TombRaider" when I started dualwielding my 2 Berettas M93Raffica at some time on my AirSoft days .
After some years of AirSoft, my Rafficas went from 3burst and single shot, to full automatic because of the used.
The Raffica was the answer of the Italian Police to the use of Uzis and Automatic weapons from the Mafia.
Great!!!! Mr. Ferguson and Royal Armories are not afraid to say "but what if?" Something that is needed to be done for ANY kind of creation, innovation, or invention.
nice video. Good cover on my favorite auto-pistol. It was reliable under heavy use... much so.
Fantastic gun for Robocop, classic gun for Aya Brea.
Haha! Just remembered that about 20+ years ago I went to a hobby shop to buy some Pokémon cards, and the salesman was super excited and mid-sale with that particular airsoft gun, I were a fairly small child so didn’t quite have the hight of the counter so he couldn’t see me, so in showing the costumer the rate of fire he just straight up emptied an entire mag of gas into my little face. He felt so bad he gave me a booster pack for free and it had a shiny Charizard in it! I was soooo happy. Thanks for reminding me of that❤
I think that extra way at the end of the barrel what surely increase controllability for the higher of fire ❤❤❤❤
Hooking your offhand's thumb through the trigger guard is an interesting way to help mitigate muzzle climb.
Its funny as being a watchmaker the rack system for the 3 round burst is very similar to the rack used in a chiming clock for knowing how my times to chime
I got an KWA air soft one of these, and I Wish my safeties would make that satisfying Click
i just bought the game, now i have something to see during the download.
I’m really glad UA-cam recommended this to me. I love the intricacies of firearms like this. I grew up on robocop as well, watched it on VHS when I was 10 and it was a nice reminder that world of guns still exists, I haven’t played that for years, I think I got it on steam when it first came out. Also, speaking of steam and valve, wasn’t this also the counterstrike glock?
The great thing about Robocop is you could easily believe he can fire that gun one handed and still have complete accuracy. And of course a Beretta based gun would also make sense for Robo because cops generally used 9mm pistols when Robocop was made meaning despite having a physically bigger gun his magazines could still be refilled from the normal station armory.
If this video were a little bit later in the year it would feel like Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of arms and artillery, getting himself a christmas present.
Funniest thing is Peter Weller (RoboCop) is a historian (idk if he has any degrees) now.. hes done tons of voiceovers for history documentaries and even directed some...
So kinda full circle
Unless well it was him doing this video on the firearm
But hes more ancient greek roman kinda guy from my memory (if u watch his movies he always brings up historical facts... N id bet thats just him ad-libbing good lines as an actor n history lover)
Peter Weller has a doctorate in history and teaches courses on... medieval or Renaissance Italy.
This gun was in use by the police and the carabinieri during the last years of the "anni di piombo". Principally during the counter terrorist operation. Was adopted as a counter terrorist weapon. Trust me i'm Italian
I owned a 93R for several years. During that time I had many discussions about it. If the guy I was talking to was accurate, Honduras also used that pistol with it's military for a time. Some reported that some of them were "taken out of service" and could be seen for sale at local ranges. I know this gun is not common by any stretch, I was only able to get parts for mine by paying a mint for spares.
Unrelated to the pistol, the "casio calculator watch with fancy strap" is such a specific vibe
I would also say that Han Solo's DL-44 Heavy Blaster is another iconic movie weapon alongside the E-11 Blaster.
Beretta 93 R great Gun
OCP headquarters was filmed at the Town Hall in Dallas... another Texas connection.
Be great to see this sort of breakdown on Dredd's Lawgiver from Karl Urbans brilliant Dredd film
There is an excellent documentary called RoboDoc. A mini TV series of how is movie made and a lot of stuff behind the scenes. Strongly recommend and awesome to watch.
It would be great (if possible) to see the gun or its inspritation actually firing just to give a idea or what its like to fire/feel
That was so spooky as you said the exact thought in my head " what about Deckerd's gun in Blade Runner?" Then you said it! Lol great video as always.
I'm always curious about the Failure rates of given firearms. It'd be great, if you had the data, to see/hear things like that for the production weapons you present! Like, knowing that a particular model had an average failure rate that lent to it not being widely adopted, or it's longevity in the market or as a military pick would be fascinating and enlightnening!
I think it's called "Mean Rounds Between Failures" MRBF? 🤔
Cool you gotten an airsoft version if the Iconic Auto 9 to talk about the iconic hero's weapon
1:36 yes, totally!!!