Vigilante 8 2nd Offense: Character and Specials Tier List [3.0]

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  • @goodrichgames1308
    @goodrichgames1308 Рік тому +74

    I know it was a lot of work but I think this is your best video to date. My only issue with the video is you keep using clips of me loosing.

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому +3

      I mean you only won like 5 of them and I did include 2 or 3 of your wins so I tried to balance it out, plus we were just dicking about anyway. (Plus my only multiplayer footage is with you lmao)

    • @goodrichgames1308
      @goodrichgames1308 Рік тому +10

      @@TheRealDownUnder I’m just kidding, glad to be in the vids.

    • @beastabuelos6421
      @beastabuelos6421 Рік тому +1

      Losing

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TheRealDownUnder25 years after release, VIGILANTE 8 2nd Offense PS1 still an amazing game.

  • @ZanteMaxionna
    @ZanteMaxionna Рік тому +20

    Amazing video. I'm glad to be part of this all! Hopefully we'll have something big for Vigilante in the near future. This game is neverending fun.

  • @Brandox57
    @Brandox57 6 місяців тому +3

    Gotta love how dedicated you are to a game with so many years. Really underrated, both the game, but mostly you as a content creator.

  • @YourManBris
    @YourManBris Рік тому +10

    funny how a game that doesnt have any updates since release still shifts its meta, love to see it

    • @ZerotheWanderer
      @ZerotheWanderer Рік тому +6

      I don't think it shifts in meta, it's just the one person here we rely on for information (in his opinion), got educated by others, so his list changed.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon Рік тому +1

      @@ZerotheWanderer As Dave would say "The truth is way out there, man!". Sadly it's Arcade Dave, but point stands.

    • @YourManBris
      @YourManBris Рік тому +1

      @@ZerotheWanderer people find new techs every now and then, like the rashid tech mortar one shot or the self killing through rocket fire, those were pretty recent and shifted how speedrunning meta was done

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому +1

      Self dets were recent yeah but didn't make obake any less painful to speedrun lmao

    • @YourManBris
      @YourManBris Рік тому

      @@TheRealDownUnder dont worry, Im sure the devs will buff her in the next update 💀

  • @alecto2877
    @alecto2877 Рік тому +11

    Special showcase...
    The bus: 💀

  • @SilverFang2789
    @SilverFang2789 Рік тому +11

    My sister and I figured out this insane whammy combo involving using the moon trekker and the tow trucks specials in unison. Not only was their a super high chance of the enemy vehicle getting destroyed instantly, it did a massive ×179 whammy combo.

    • @michaelsantos8293
      @michaelsantos8293 Рік тому +1

      How ?

    • @SilverFang2789
      @SilverFang2789 Рік тому +5

      @@michaelsantos8293 Player 1 is Bob O. and player 2 is Houston. Both players need to have their specials at the ready. Bob O. uses his Collector first, then Houston uses her Tow Hook to grab onto the enemy that is being hit with Bob O's special. Houston immediately gasses for it causing the strain on the Hook to do more and more damage the greater the distance. It is so powerful that there is little to no chance of survival unless the tow truck goes so far away that is either forces Bob O to lose them or the Tow Hook disconnects. That happened only rarely when we played but it was prone to happening.
      We we're only kids back on 2003 when we figured out that combo. I don't know if it was a glitch or what, but I assure you it works. At least on the Dreamcast version it did.

    • @michaelsantos8293
      @michaelsantos8293 Рік тому +3

      @@SilverFang2789 thank you my friend

    • @wh_kers
      @wh_kers 7 місяців тому

      I'll tell a secret.
      p1 & p2 both use Houston & do special to one target & you'll get even into 500+ - 1k whammy

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 4 місяці тому

      ​@@SilverFang2789i ever got 1678 whammy combos using MOON TREKKER ONLY.😅

  • @performa9523
    @performa9523 3 місяці тому +1

    I didn't realize V8 still had players, let alone speedrunners and multiplayer. This is awesome!

  • @Exclusive1011111111
    @Exclusive1011111111 Рік тому +3

    I remember during that dirt level the giant ant scared the shit outta me when I 1st saw it.

  • @RenickLahire
    @RenickLahire Рік тому +3

    I'm just glad to see my boy Dallas up there on the list, he was always was my favourite back when I played this game when I was a kid.

  • @neitron90
    @neitron90 7 місяців тому

    One thing to note is obake can ''instantly kill'' (drain all hp) from an enemy from full health. Try to get her vehicle facing the ground vertically and use the special. The hitboxes will continuously collide resulting in 0 health with really high sound pitch as the slicing sounds will also overlap, and still have time to escape some of the car explosions afterwards. Hard to master this though. Works best if the car is stuck/glitched in that position on something.

  • @tapejara1507
    @tapejara1507 Рік тому +1

    I got this on PS1 one of the best games of my childhood. I even got all the upgraded cars and figuered out weapon combos with the crosspad. good times.

  • @NEEDbacon
    @NEEDbacon Рік тому +5

    Again, Congrats on over 1k in subs.
    Love the new list and how much went into it. I find it interesting Nina rose so highly due to countering Tracking weapons. Which her rival JT doesn't use, it's like pottery. Also learning that Molo's handling doesn't come from a code oversight, but simple cause Goodrich wanted to rip doughnuts in the bus. Now I kinda wonder how G-man or Convoy would fair if they had the same physic weirdness for mobility.
    And Dave's Cultsmen get their own special class. Dumpster Fire Cultsmen more like.
    Do wonder what that Cheeky unity logo was doing saying this is the final list.

    • @radiahmed126
      @radiahmed126 8 місяців тому

      One of My favourite PS1 game

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 4 місяці тому

    The Dump Truck in Vigilante 8 2nd Offense can come in handy on Survival Mode. I ever destroyed 250 opponents using this alone.

  • @lshalsha
    @lshalsha Рік тому +1

    best game in my life

  • @calledbugsLIVE
    @calledbugsLIVE Рік тому +1

    poor molo, he just being a test subject. Although I used to fight against him while playing arcade

  • @robshacks
    @robshacks Рік тому +1

    this video needs 1,000,000 views it is so dang good!

  • @cuttlas2955
    @cuttlas2955 Рік тому +3

    Best Game ever :)

  • @iseeallforme
    @iseeallforme 7 місяців тому

    Before watching this video in full, my impression of the characters were as follows
    Sheila - B
    Sheila is very much a infighter, using the large capacity tantrum gun to combo with the combos to score whammies: this works fairly well with Interceptor missiles and bull's eye rockets, but less so with say the sky hammer mortar or the bruiser cannon. The tantrum gun itself is rather unremarkable on its own and its main selling point is good accuracy at close range. Not too bad, but there are better picks
    John Torque - A
    His unique weapon is pretty darn good and probably one of the best of the starters alongside Team FAST: the bullet is fast so it isn't too hard to hit, its damage is pretty good especially with the lucky shot. It isn't broken good, but it gets the job done
    Team FAST - A
    Team FAST's unique weapon is probably the best of the starters, as it homes and will likely hit the target unless the target goes indoors. Its damage is also insanely good, as it has the benefit of being one of the few weapons that can whammy on its own. It is held back by a long cooldown and a long wait before the missiles find their targets, but it's reliable in outdoor maps (less so in say Pennsylvanian Steel Mill or the Minnesotan Nuclear Plant). I'd argue that its chassis is a minus, as it's too squishy.
    Molo - C
    His smog check can be good if you can get a hit, as it can stall cars and allow for some nasty hits. Problem is that it's a short ranged weapon and Molo is of the slow beefy kind of character which doesn't work too well as Molo can't reliably close in for the smog angle.
    Dallas 13 - D
    If talking just the special weapon, Dallas 13's special weapon I rate as one of the worst alongside Dave's Cultist: its damage is pitiful for what it does, pushing enemy is a utility that is negated by Palamino being stuck dead while using the weapon and the lock up time is probably the thing that kills the special weapon.
    Nina Loco - B
    Nina's special weapon isn't particularly great: while it's one of the most accurate weapons in the game, its expected damage isn't that good since the car gets pushed out of the damage radius. Its slow missile time makes it a bit awkward for whammy setups, and I was a bit torn on putting this on C or low B.
    Bob O. - C
    Bob's special is the death grip: combined with the bruiser cannon's buckshot, anything that gets caught in the front gets mauled and anything that isn't Convoy, Molo or Garbage Man gets instawrecked, and even Convoy/Molo/Garbage Man gets wrecked by the buckshot. Problem is that Bob's vehicle is unwieldy and doesn't have the armor benefits that the other slow bruiser types get, and the weapon is an melee weapon. It has the ability to take off weapons, but who cares when you can just blow the crap out of the enemy with the buckshot combo.
    Garbage Man - C
    Basically the worse version of Bob O as it can't use the buckshot combo reliably, although it has better armor.
    R. Chase - B
    Time stop is a bit of an odd one, as the enemy becomes sitting duck for what ever combo you pull out of your arsenal. However, the weapon itself is a bit awkward to hit for being a 1 shot per crate, does no damage and its whammy potential is close to none by itself. Still, it can be alright in a larger map even when you're low on weapons as you can probably run out to get some more (in smaller maps, other enemies might cause trouble)
    Also congratulations and have a sub, it was a good memory ride

    • @iseeallforme
      @iseeallforme 7 місяців тому

      Continuing my pre-view tier list
      Houston - S
      The tow cable's only down side is its low range, but once an enemy gets near, this instantly locks into the poor sap which gets dragged and take damage: the damage from the weapon alone is impressive, but even more so with the mortars or the missiles.
      Convoy - A
      Knockback isn't a utility that I don't rate so highly, but for slower vehicles like Convoy's one it is another defensive quality. Not only that, it also has a great reload speed so it can be spammed, and if fired at a right angle it can also do some surprisingly good damage. Probably on the lower side of A, but it's a good oh-shit-I-need-to-get-the-hell-out card
      Chassey Blue - A
      Star Power is a personal favorite of mine, laser shooting satellite is so cool. Not only that, its damage is fairly good, and its long duration makes it an insane whammy setter. If the first laser hits, it's almost guaranteed that it'll be a full shot so it's reliable and can hurt a lot. It does have its downsides, such as an awkward max range and one of the longest cooldowns for a special weapon and that kept it out of S.
      Boogey - A
      Pretty solid guided weapon, it is probably among the better of the As although it isn't particularly "special" in its mechanics except being a long lasting damage applier, which means you can use it for some whammies with the trusty missiles or rockets.
      Lord Clyde - S
      Clyde's Chain Lightning is basically the Houston's cable for the Coyotes: it's a guaranteed weapon that does darn good damage and also a whammy setter in a way that's probably even better as it keeps the target still rather than dragging them. Did I mention that it does good damage on its own too as it's one of the few self whammy weapons?
      Dave's Cultsmen - D
      This one is a stinker: being one of the reliable long-range guaranteed guided weapon, it is penalized by having shit damage, takes a long time to reload, and the vehicle is also a slow stinker.
      Obake - C
      A charge attack, Obake's weapon is interesting but I'd probably stick with John Torque's special weapon. It's hard to aim this thing which is the biggest bummer, and the damage isn't worth the trouble of trying to line up the enemy.
      Padre Destino - B
      For an near guarantee weapon this one's not so bad, although it doesn't have the oomph of some of the other iconic weapons. It also has a long set up time which can be bad, although it is useful if you got rearmed and ready to close the distance with the enemy for another round.
      Dusty Earth - A
      In honesty, Dusty Earth is a character I haven't much experience with: Obake was also not particularly well played but at least Obake's special weapon was iconic and its characteristics visible and straightforward. As for Dusty Earth's eagle, it's a different story: It's a near-guaranteed airborne which is a nasty utility that makes the enemy sitting duck for whatever is thrown at them, but doesn't have the oomph for whatever reason, even though it should be a pretty nasty weapon: when I get hit by one by the AI, it is more of an annoyance than a threat, but I could see it being a powerful weapon if the cooldown is not in the Chassey Blue level.

  • @dondanana9573
    @dondanana9573 Рік тому +1

    here's a comment for ya. i always thoght when John torque did he special he was saying MAKE YOUR BED it wasn't untill 2021 when i finally found out decades later he's saying place your bets lol. Me and my baby bro even would call Vigilante make your bed haha. "wanna play make your bed?"

  • @jonahcalahasen2249
    @jonahcalahasen2249 Рік тому +6

    So Clyde and Houston on top again just like the first game? (Ignoring Y)

  • @venator-fb7yy
    @venator-fb7yy 7 місяців тому +1

    I played this game alongside twisted metal when I was like 6 or 7 on the ps1. I'm 31 now and I miss it, I wonder if I would be better at it now years later or not! I still play games to this day on ps5. Good times. 🙂

    • @alankin2316
      @alankin2316 2 місяці тому

      You should give it a try again, theres a pc port rn

  • @man-on-a-mission
    @man-on-a-mission Рік тому +1

    phenomenal

  • @MaskedGuyCh
    @MaskedGuyCh 9 місяців тому

    Obake is too low I think, the speed and distance of her Rift Blade is too good, it has i-frames and the ability to go through walls and stage hazards. It can also escape certain specials/traps that hold you in place (ex: 9:35). I was watching some multiplayer matches and she was a menace, shredding everyone and being too fast to catch. lol
    Anyway, really enjoyed this video and happy that people still talk about this game over 2 decades later. Here's a sub while I'm here.

  • @xKaZzu
    @xKaZzu Рік тому

    Very nice video and very useful, good job 😊

  • @Specter053
    @Specter053 Рік тому +9

    Vigilante 8: 2nd offense is probably one of the reasons why grapplers in fighting games can't really be top tiers. They can be disgusting if so.

  • @chaosoverlord5
    @chaosoverlord5 Рік тому +4

    I'm curious, is there any particular reason on why the hot rod version of the Chrono Stinger looks just like the Hot Wheels' Sweet Sixteen II? I remember it being my favorite hot rod together with the Vertigo... Also love your vids man so nice to remember V8 after all these years!

  • @shydra1
    @shydra1 Рік тому

    Great vid, great tier list, great explanations. I’d have given Chassey the top spot because how good she is overall but I’ve never managed to test her out on the multiplayer😢.
    Keep on, mate!
    Cheers

  • @madisonthompson8545
    @madisonthompson8545 Рік тому

    Can't believe you did my boy's dual loader like that lol

  • @karisasani7006
    @karisasani7006 Рік тому +1

    10:33 its basically like Club kid from twisted metal 3's special?

  • @SuperRaynet
    @SuperRaynet Рік тому

    is just beautiful to see a v8 meme

  • @MagitekOmega
    @MagitekOmega Рік тому +2

    This was a fantastic video I must say. Will there be one for a revised tier list of the original game?

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому +3

      I was more or less satisfied with how the OG one turned out, I'd only make minor changes tbh

  • @MrGIGGOS
    @MrGIGGOS 6 місяців тому

    I once play with my dad and we did combo collector and houston hook, only this 2 specials. One shot full hp with 127 whammies

  • @oregano19
    @oregano19 Рік тому +1

    No surprise Houston was the top. Her special has no counter and so easy to abuse with 100% accuracy. My favourite V8 2nd char

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому

      Houston was always my favourite for 2nd Offense yeah but never really knew how busted she was until recent years.

  • @RancidRage94
    @RancidRage94 11 місяців тому +1

    Padre Destino has one of the stronger specials as the Drifter's in this game next to Chassey Blue, the fact you can hit anyone from across the map

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  11 місяців тому +1

      IF they're sitting still. Ninas can hit across the map too but thats not what makes it good.

  • @Strykerx31
    @Strykerx31 Місяць тому

    10:26 Twister would like a word with you.

  • @Redmist-se7ld
    @Redmist-se7ld 11 місяців тому

    Wish to see a remaster of vigilante 8 2nd offense it’s way better than the first game

  • @ImportAustralia
    @ImportAustralia Рік тому

    Is it weird that I’m a Twisted Metal guy who never really got into V8 at all (in fairness, I’ve never really put the effort into understanding the mechanics) but I still really love watching these tier list videos for a game I have no experience with?

  • @JspoonG
    @JspoonG 9 місяців тому +1

    I am mega surprised that Xanadu is in the D tier. Even your gameplay shows that his special allows you to rip your opponent apart with Whammy very easily, even heavyweight dies to one decent combo

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  9 місяців тому

      Keep in mind that was against AI not a real player and like I said, compare him to anyone else and you can see the vast difference.

    • @JspoonG
      @JspoonG 9 місяців тому

      Yup, but i just can't see some of the other cars winning vs Xanadu 1vs1 like Convoy, Molo, Monkey etc :) also some of the cars are much better when playing on split screen 2players. Online is a whole different game tbh, for me Xanadu is mediocre. Glad to see Samson at the top though@@TheRealDownUnder

  • @josereyes4643
    @josereyes4643 Рік тому

    offsubject of the game but why does your voice go from bitish to american?....or is that australian...idk i only noticed it cause this vid is background noise while i play D4 also great vid i miss the Vigilante games

  • @drppnts4food
    @drppnts4food Рік тому

    How come there's some running theme that Convoy ranks last? Isn't there only two games and he is last in neither? Not having a go, just wondering if I am missing some series to watch

  • @lionhearted7450
    @lionhearted7450 Рік тому

    I think I just found my new favorite YT channel!!! Both games need remasters!!!!!

  • @warrmalaski8570
    @warrmalaski8570 Рік тому

    Obake on ps2 is the only special that I could kill three full-hp cars with in under 10 seconds. With three charges all I had to do was sit next to an impermeable wall and then nose into the enemy car. I would get stuck inside of them doing full damage and at least 6 wammys.

  • @TacoShotgun
    @TacoShotgun 7 місяців тому

    Question: does the lemming missile counter other lemming missile? Like, what would happen if two Ninas battle and use their special weapon at each other?

  • @Jempai
    @Jempai Рік тому

    I don't wanna sound rude, this is a legit question, but why does your accent cycle between American, British, and Australian om the fly?

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому

      Because I played TF2 and Vc'd with a group of yanks for seven years so my accent swaps between my own and american,

  • @MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
    @MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage 11 місяців тому

    I loed that you could put the original game CD's into your regular CD player and listen to the game tunes.

  • @evillovekitty
    @evillovekitty 10 місяців тому

    I miss seeing new videos. I know you're burnt out on the game. Much love.

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  10 місяців тому

      Im not burnt out on the game, I've just been so busy with work I don't have the energy to make content lmao

  • @Akehiko_Urabaya
    @Akehiko_Urabaya Рік тому

    Having to watch this vid because as a kid I only had a bootleg black market copy of this game that had all the special weapons for the player disabled not for the AI though

  • @beastabuelos6421
    @beastabuelos6421 Рік тому

    The car is half the debt

  • @steveozone4910
    @steveozone4910 Рік тому

    Can we get a sequel to this classic? Dave?

  • @SuperRaynet
    @SuperRaynet Рік тому +1

    But Xanadu is SSS tier

  • @musictrap4416
    @musictrap4416 Рік тому

    🧡

  • @FallFromGrace65
    @FallFromGrace65 11 місяців тому

    Is the Australian accent on a light switch?

  • @enzoTHEferrari
    @enzoTHEferrari Рік тому

    Petition to rename D Tier in future videos *Dave's Tier.*

  • @BigTaxiNY
    @BigTaxiNY Рік тому +1

    How can someone play this online?

  • @VigilanteInterpl8ers
    @VigilanteInterpl8ers 8 місяців тому

    I still don't understand what Avoidance actually is, can someone explain it ?

    • @Winabagel23
      @Winabagel23 7 місяців тому

      Avoidance determines how difficult it is for a vehicle to be consistently targeted by opponents. It usually goes to faster, lighter vehicles. And it isn't so much how fast the vehicle is or how well you time your shots that matters, but the radar system in the game is less likely to target high-avoidance opponents.

  • @Overton1994
    @Overton1994 Рік тому +1

    Meh, I still like Dave. Glad to see my king Convoy bump up a few places though!

  • @jeromemagquilat3050
    @jeromemagquilat3050 Рік тому

    Molo B++? cant hit a damn thing with this as a kid 😅

  • @deivyjose3470
    @deivyjose3470 Рік тому

    bro why you saying that the online version of the game is too buggy? i play it almost every day and it's great. I mean the unity

    • @TheRealDownUnder
      @TheRealDownUnder  Рік тому

      The first version not the unity version, did you not see the footage I used???

    • @deivyjose3470
      @deivyjose3470 Рік тому

      @@TheRealDownUnder oh shit my bad. great video 📷

  • @DarknessAndEvil69
    @DarknessAndEvil69 7 місяців тому

    Whats the song at 55:44?

  • @reyrico5807
    @reyrico5807 Рік тому

    Loki special is ass on PlayStation but on the 64 it actually hits like it’s supposed to.

  • @Pablo-312
    @Pablo-312 Рік тому

    Who's excited for the first game's 25th Anniversary? I am. even though I never played it before

  • @goodrichgames1308
    @goodrichgames1308 Рік тому +27

    V8 is totally lame, Twisted Metal is better.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon Рік тому +11

      You almost had me Dave.

    • @goodrichgames1308
      @goodrichgames1308 Рік тому +18

      @@NEEDbacon I couldn’t resist trolling my own game.

    • @tailsthefox53
      @tailsthefox53 Рік тому +12

      Both games are amazing

    • @xKaZzu
      @xKaZzu Рік тому +2

      You are funny guy 🤣

    • @Lightmakerslife
      @Lightmakerslife 8 місяців тому +1

      Seriously I will put all my higher knowledge on the line vs u and twisted metal😂