Oliver Reed was magnificent here-he did it all with his facial expression. He showed all of the great qualities of Athos- integrity, dedication to duty-while showing the inner anguish that Athos felt as he condemned a woman he still loved to death.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 awesome. He was a great actor. The latest edition of the Musketeers (French film in 2023) looks loke it may be pretty good as well.
The movie left out the story the story of the Headsman of Lille - in the book, he showed up masked, and when the Musketeers had passed their sentences, he interjected his story - his brother was a young curate, and Milady a novice nun - she seduced him and together they stole money and sacred vessels from the Church, intending to start a life together in another province - but they were caught. In shame, the young priest committed suicide, and Milady was branded with the Fleur-de-Lis on her shoulder - by her lover's brother, who was the Headsman of Lille. Athos discovered Milady's brand after they were married and hung her himself, but she survived.
I'm kind of glad they did, because this is the one part of the book that just seems too pat for me. When Athos denounces her to the others as having been branded, she defies them to learn which tribunal ordered it or the man who carried it out because she knows perfectly well that she wasn't legally branded by order of any judge (only her lover had been caught and he protected her, the fool). But the headsman, whom Athos had sought merely in his capacity as an executioner, just *happens* to be the guy who caught and branded her on his own, so she would share the mark of shame he'd been forced to inflict upon his own brother. Even Athos didn't know that. This is why, in the book, he doesn't accept payment for the execution.
To me, this was a moment that implies both sadness and necessity. Milady de Winter was a manipulative, remorseless, ruthless, vengeful killer who had already murdered the Duke of Buckingham and Constance Bonacieux at this point, among numerous other victims. She also had every intention of eventually murdering all of the Musketeers as well. It was also very likely that de Winter couldn't be punished in an official court of law, since Cardinal Richelieu would have done everything in his power to shield her from justice. Inflicting death as a punishment shouldn't be taken lightly but there are times when it must be done to ensure a better future.
Agree completely! In the book she is such an identity-changing psychopath that it's not known what her original name really was. And killing Constance was done for no reason except to get at D'Artagnan.
As a member of the French Peerage, a Count, with the privilege of High justice, it was at that time, AFAIK, perfectly legal for Athos to sentence a murderess and spy to death, and to see the sentence carried out... Even if Richelieu WANTED to admit to even knowing her to protest, Athos DID have civil authority to inflict capital punishment in his jurisdiction, and would get away with this with little problem, or even questions. Of course, Milady was guilty as Hell...
That's the thing about it all. Richelieu would never have admitted ever having had anything to do with Charlotte, and that exchange between himself and D'Artagnan at the end would never have taken place.
@@robertorourke2358 Fair enough but I’m fairly sure soldiers of that age couldn’t just go around killing who they wanted. Perhaps these were special musketeers with a license to kill - it’s been a while since I’ve seen the film. Was there a reason why she had to be taken to the other side of the river to be executed do you know?
@@mollykeane2571 It's been a very long time since I saw that movie or read the book. However, if Milady was nobility then there were certain rules that had to be followed. One of the musketeers passing judgement stated that he had the "High, Middle and Low justice" indicating that he did have the necessary qualifications to issue a sentence of death upon a noble.
@@minarchist1776 Well, that’s okay then - as long as he had the necessary qualifications ^^ Perhaps I’m too used to the British jury system or something but it just seems a bit off…oh, wait a minute we’re talking about the French here aren’t we? Silly me, I can see where I went wrong - suddenly everything makes perfect sense! 😁
@@bradleydavies4781 Really? We doing this? Yeah, the MCU doesn't hold a candle to classic Marvel-f***ing-comics, but I'm forced to learn to respect your tastes and you should mine, too!
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Oliver Reed was magnificent here-he did it all with his facial expression. He showed all of the great qualities of Athos- integrity, dedication to duty-while showing the inner anguish that Athos felt as he condemned a woman he still loved to death.
Oliver Reed, a fine actor, a great voice and a beautiful speaker, RIP.
Also, sexy as hell.
@@jennymacallan9071 Err, well he didn't do it for me but I think I see what you mean!😉
These musketeer movies are the best ever. Great cast, great combination of slap stick humor and drama.
I worked with Oliver Reed and we spoke about these films. He had great affection for them.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 awesome. He was a great actor. The latest edition of the Musketeers (French film in 2023) looks loke it may be pretty good as well.
@@bane1240 Easily the best actor I will ever work with and I learned a lot about screen acting from him. French cinema, in my opinion, is the best.
If you saw the movie you know this woman kills, lies, and is a spy. She had it coming
She was responsible for Raquel Welch's death ..... no more to be said.
Typical women
For the executioner to put on his mask after the musketeers see him is like closing the barn door after the horse got out.
He'd barely see what he was doing. Better he didn't mask up.
@@spudpud-T67 He did, before the execution.
@@robertorourke2358 I saw the video too.
The movie left out the story the story of the Headsman of Lille - in the book, he showed up masked, and when the Musketeers had passed their sentences, he interjected his story - his brother was a young curate, and Milady a novice nun - she seduced him and together they stole money and sacred vessels from the Church, intending to start a life together in another province - but they were caught. In shame, the young priest committed suicide, and Milady was branded with the Fleur-de-Lis on her shoulder - by her lover's brother, who was the Headsman of Lille. Athos discovered Milady's brand after they were married and hung her himself, but she survived.
I'm kind of glad they did, because this is the one part of the book that just seems too pat for me. When Athos denounces her to the others as having been branded, she defies them to learn which tribunal ordered it or the man who carried it out because she knows perfectly well that she wasn't legally branded by order of any judge (only her lover had been caught and he protected her, the fool). But the headsman, whom Athos had sought merely in his capacity as an executioner, just *happens* to be the guy who caught and branded her on his own, so she would share the mark of shame he'd been forced to inflict upon his own brother. Even Athos didn't know that. This is why, in the book, he doesn't accept payment for the execution.
_"I'm a headsman, not a sailor."_
the lester film version in every way is so absolutely better than the disney version
Overall better. But Charlton Heston is not Tim Curry.
@@ianlacey6588 heston is far superior than curry. Currys portrayal is as far from the book as it can be
@@ianlacey6588 If Tim Curry heard himself being compared to Charlton Heston he'd probably tell go tell you to pull your head in .
@@ianlacey6588 I do like Tim Curry, but let's get real. He is no Charlton Heston.
Due in no small part to the script by George MacDonald Fraser, a superb writer.
To me, this was a moment that implies both sadness and necessity. Milady de Winter was a manipulative, remorseless, ruthless, vengeful killer who had already murdered the Duke of Buckingham and Constance Bonacieux at this point, among numerous other victims. She also had every intention of eventually murdering all of the Musketeers as well. It was also very likely that de Winter couldn't be punished in an official court of law, since Cardinal Richelieu would have done everything in his power to shield her from justice. Inflicting death as a punishment shouldn't be taken lightly but there are times when it must be done to ensure a better future.
Agree completely! In the book she is such an identity-changing psychopath that it's not known what her original name really was. And killing Constance was done for no reason except to get at D'Artagnan.
Milady was so beautiful. Pity she was so evil too
As a member of the French Peerage, a Count, with the privilege of High justice, it was at that time, AFAIK, perfectly legal for Athos to sentence a murderess and spy to death, and to see the sentence carried out...
Even if Richelieu WANTED to admit to even knowing her to protest, Athos DID have civil authority to inflict capital punishment in his jurisdiction, and would get away with this with little problem, or even questions.
Of course, Milady was guilty as Hell...
That's the thing about it all. Richelieu would never have admitted ever having had anything to do with Charlotte, and that exchange between himself and D'Artagnan at the end would never have taken place.
Best version!!! l love richard chamberlain!!!💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
This is the closest I’ve seen to the book.
Faye Dunaway was the most gorgeous milady ever I hope she was still wearing her white silk stockings and garters under her gown for this scene
Love these movies....
Great film this and the sequel, not so the third film.
In that one they aimed higher and beheaded Charles I, though offscreen.
Too bad Oliver Reed's career faded around this time. He had such an amazing presence on screen.
It was his presence at the bar that was the problem.
@@Dabhach1 so true. His reputation for drinking scared off many directors from casting him.
@@Dabhach1 I've seen interviews he did back then, TV appearances and so on. He was frequently hammered.
Saw the two films when they came to the cinema maybe 1974 not sure great times
GREAT MOVIE
What would Cromwell do? *AWAY WITH THIS HARLOT!!!!!!!!*
Don’t we call that murder these days?
What they called it in those days was what mattered.
@@robertorourke2358 Fair enough but I’m fairly sure soldiers of that age couldn’t just go around killing who they wanted. Perhaps these were special musketeers with a license to kill - it’s been a while since I’ve seen the film. Was there a reason why she had to be taken to the other side of the river to be executed do you know?
@@mollykeane2571 It's been a very long time since I saw that movie or read the book. However, if Milady was nobility then there were certain rules that had to be followed. One of the musketeers passing judgement stated that he had the "High, Middle and Low justice" indicating that he did have the necessary qualifications to issue a sentence of death upon a noble.
@@minarchist1776 Well, that’s okay then - as long as he had the necessary qualifications ^^ Perhaps I’m too used to the British jury system or something but it just seems a bit off…oh, wait a minute we’re talking about the French here aren’t we? Silly me, I can see where I went wrong - suddenly everything makes perfect sense! 😁
@@mollykeane2571 They used the license to kill that Richelieu gave to Milady.
wow no comment on that scene
I'll just say that sometimes I felt sorry for my lady
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It is Dumas's fault.
She did murder Constance .
Should probably feel sorry for Constance
I like the '93 version better
You must be joking The 93 version doesn't hold a candle to this one.
@@bradleydavies4781
Really? We doing this? Yeah, the MCU doesn't hold a candle to classic Marvel-f***ing-comics, but I'm forced to learn to respect your tastes and you should mine, too!
U suck
@Jeff Allgood Yes the 93 version was Disney's version
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Back when Disney was cool and original.