Stealth Vs Hypersonic | F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 Felon | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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  • Опубліковано 26 тра 2023
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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
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    • @MrComplainer
      @MrComplainer Рік тому +12

      F35 Vs SU57 BVR and Merge!
      Day75:

  • @paddythomas2628
    @paddythomas2628 Рік тому +630

    The missile from the splashed f22 launching like...
    “My name is The Missile Guidance system... fox 3 to a murdered pilot, amram to a murdered Raptor; and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”

    • @surfmanfish
      @surfmanfish Рік тому +32

      Isn't there a twitter account that writes about dogfights from the view of the missile guidance system?

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 Рік тому +793

    That last merge was dramatic--two gunsligers spitting their last curse without losing the cigar stub. Loved it.

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 Рік тому +663

    Love seeing the AMRAAM launch as the F-22 is literally disintegrating, almost like a scene out of TGM.

    • @josebrown5961
      @josebrown5961 Рік тому +9

      Yes that was the coolest thing I have ever seen on here!
      I’m an old guy. I used to play the really old game F22 Raptor. That was years before the plane went public. The Raptor in the game had 4 sidewinders and 4 Fox 3s.
      Now I am not a sim player but I enjoy seeing how much the thing has evolved.

    • @Und3rpr3ssur3_Gaming
      @Und3rpr3ssur3_Gaming Рік тому +8

      If it had landed a hit and splashed the SU-57 it would have been legendary.

    • @Mikogusu
      @Mikogusu Рік тому +7

      Yeah Maverick should actually have died lol.

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 Рік тому +254

    These two aircraft are almost too valuable to risk losing one fighting each other.

  • @Gobzon
    @Gobzon Рік тому +234

    The ending is just wow. If there's Top Gun 3 in the works, they should take this fight as pre-vis.

  • @vipondiu
    @vipondiu Рік тому +62

    9:11 the "dead-man granade" post-mortem missile shot is so epic

  • @charlie15627
    @charlie15627 Рік тому +196

    It really seems to be more of a question of pilot's skill and luck, when it comes to comparable aircraft.

    • @Imugi007
      @Imugi007 Рік тому +83

      They aren't really comparable in real life, though. The Raptor would see the Felon way before the Felon sees the Raptor. The more optimistic estimates predict the RCS of the Felon is twice the size of an F-35. And that's the optimistic estimates. It's probably bigger than that.

  • @R1-Flo
    @R1-Flo Рік тому +113

    Hands down, TOXIC definitely makes you work the hardest for a kill in any aircraft scenario !! Well executed on both ends! Great vid!!

  • @usamashakeel1397
    @usamashakeel1397 Рік тому +43

    That last engagement was so epic. It gave me goodbumps!

  • @Matisaro
    @Matisaro Рік тому +50

    LOVED LOVED LOVED the 3rd person ending first edit on round 3, loved how we saw what happened from outside first, not what happened then a 3rd person replay, loved the cinematic feel!

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 Рік тому +117

    This was a really cool fight. Not much else to say, just the combination of tactics, the use of the environment, and the fact it's these two planes made for a interesting scenario.

  • @GrantvsMaximvs
    @GrantvsMaximvs Рік тому +81

    Love it when you work the minidocs into the introduction. Great footage and editing. Onward and Upward.
    (Not gonna lie, GS, i would like to see you revisit the Apache.)

  • @abckirov1929
    @abckirov1929 Рік тому +3

    12:15 "I never saw him" The F-22s creed.

  • @salmanGT4
    @salmanGT4 Рік тому +59

    So nice to see you in a SU-57 again. You should do it more often.

  • @mlrd6622
    @mlrd6622 Рік тому +28

    Been wanting to see you in the Su-57 for ages. Glad this video is finally here :)

  • @Of_Your_Volition
    @Of_Your_Volition Рік тому +33

    Excited for this stealth vs stealth and nice explanation of each aircraft in the beginning

  • @artemlitvinenko1328
    @artemlitvinenko1328 Рік тому +56

    Fifth gen fights never get old! Keep up the good work GS!

  • @thatoneraotguy2590
    @thatoneraotguy2590 Рік тому +23

    Concerning the whole stealth and radars discussion: me and my friend have actually been thinking quite a lot about it, and we've come to the conclusion that stealth will likely evolve faster then radars at first, which means that dogfight is going to return being a thing, but after this stealth growth, since radar technology has much more potential for improvement, things will get back to the BVR, but in a more advanced way (for example we might see airborne radars being able to look over the horizon, since we already have that technology on some ground radars, and we will also probably get back to unfiltered-ish radars, as in without pulse doppler, because radars will get just so precise that ground clutter won't be a problem anymore, and AIs will probably be able to sort out things like countermeasures and such too)

  • @larrylong4829
    @larrylong4829 Рік тому +6

    proving once again... "it's less the plane and more the pilot". Well done! Nice Vid.

  • @KevinUrbanRescueRanch
    @KevinUrbanRescueRanch Рік тому +54

    I love your stealth aircraft dogfight videos. The technology they carry is just incredible. Keep up the great work!

  • @freakshow1038
    @freakshow1038 9 місяців тому +3

    Imagine getting shot down, ejecting and hearing that deafening howl of an SU 57 flying by you.

  • @gamingposition9869
    @gamingposition9869 Рік тому +14

    If there is anything i learned from this video, and the other one; it is that you are one hell of pilot, the aircratf doesn’t matter much, especially these 5th gen fighters.
    Keep up!

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 Рік тому +2

    15:54 Why was the music kicking in here super hype

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml Рік тому +10

    Supercruise is supersonic speeds WITHOUT afterburners. That's pretty damn amazing and it never really gets talked about.
    Military helicopter engine mechanic here so I might be a little bias..... LOL

  • @jackbenny5108
    @jackbenny5108 Рік тому +2

    boss fight music, hell yeah 15:54

  • @Chooie6
    @Chooie6 Рік тому +16

    isnt that him at 7:38? when you zoom in there is a moving black dot just above the horizon near the peak to the right of center of the view, i think you might have seen that as a missile you fired but after seeing where he actually was i think that was him. anyway seems like you are once again proving its less about the plane and more about the pilot nice video!

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_5546 Рік тому +5

    As the sword gets sharper, the shield gets thicker. I believe you're right about the cat and mouse of radar vs stealth.

  • @planelander
    @planelander Рік тому +3

    God the talon is so sexy too. Wish we were at peace and had war games instead of real wars.

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 Рік тому +40

    The Felon is a gorgeous aircraft.

  • @sonofguns1016
    @sonofguns1016 Рік тому +6

    That was EPIC! Lol from the first missile to the last merge, very well played by both pilots

  • @MichaelTheRead
    @MichaelTheRead 11 місяців тому +2

    9:00 I think he saw the missile coming and knew he was toast, and deliberately moved into a position where he'd be able to fire off at least one missile before losing total control of the craft.
    "If I go down, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME!"
    He just barely managed to jettison and get his chute open in time. I imagine that explosion cooked him pretty good.

  • @PepperDog76
    @PepperDog76 Рік тому +17

    Love all your stuff but I especially enjoy these docu-videos. Keep it up, brother. You’re one of the best content creators in the space. Any chance we’ll see some more WWI stuff soon?

  • @dgfgts
    @dgfgts Рік тому +2

    The Raptor is a sexy beasty, looks like it's straight from Halo. The Felon on the other hand looks more like a fat penguin.

  • @mort6598
    @mort6598 Рік тому +2

    the afterburner on the felon looks so good

  • @sinine
    @sinine Рік тому +8

    That last round was a major thrill. Edge of my seat stuff.

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 Рік тому +2

    Dude we HAVE to see meteor F35 vs Su57. We’ve had that matchup coming a long time.

  • @NilofarCOD
    @NilofarCOD Рік тому +6

    15:25 This is one the best sequence of the channel 💥

  • @gnarrrrrrrrrrrr
    @gnarrrrrrrrrrrr Рік тому +1

    that last bit of action cinematography was sick

  • @cszabo8899
    @cszabo8899 Рік тому +10

    Great effort by the F-22 pilot, and he dished out a little payback too.

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar Рік тому +12

    F-22 when it sees an unsuspecting felon 😈

  • @fuciguma2886
    @fuciguma2886 Рік тому +24

    74 su57s? I am sorry but where?

  • @heyidiot
    @heyidiot Рік тому +2

    _"I don't see him..."_ That's the plan, baby! *BOOM!*

  • @jumax23
    @jumax23 Рік тому +2

    I’m waiting for f-22 and the harrier dog fight

  • @vandasaragosa
    @vandasaragosa Рік тому +2

    I can not say this is. The best gaming channel because I don't know every gaming channel that exist outta there, but it is safe to say this is my favorite gaming channel ... Awesome intro I love it

  • @mincluM
    @mincluM Рік тому +8

    Great to see another one of these, a great matchup.

  • @Micherson
    @Micherson Рік тому +13

    Stealth and radar will both improve . As time goes .

  • @TymaDem
    @TymaDem Рік тому +2

    9:20 launching a missile after being shot is freaky

  • @Alex-jd8if
    @Alex-jd8if Рік тому +1

    07:38 when u say "you can see the missile there" you can also see the f22 down low :D

  • @JohnZsAviation
    @JohnZsAviation Рік тому +9

    Nice I like the F-22 in my opinion a Great jet.

  • @PaulGAckerman
    @PaulGAckerman Рік тому +2

    Wow! In Round 1 the F-22 shot that missile at the last possible second.

  • @bryndrew
    @bryndrew Рік тому +1

    I loved that short range BVR to the merge format!

  • @paddythomas2628
    @paddythomas2628 Рік тому +5

    Always a good day when GS uploads! What about a F15 STOL/MFD vs SU57 dogfight?

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro Рік тому +2

    When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

  • @AB-td5oo
    @AB-td5oo Рік тому +1

    Maan when merged the felon flairing the sky looked So epic

  • @ricbish4122
    @ricbish4122 Рік тому

    Nice one! That was a lot of fun to watch. I didn’t think it would be when I saw the title, but really interesting to see how it all came together! Nice job!

  • @slobodandjordjevic381
    @slobodandjordjevic381 Рік тому

    OMg that ending sequence!!! More of that please

  • @Cap1talNumbers
    @Cap1talNumbers Рік тому +2

    Now THIS is a matchup!

  • @finnianp8250
    @finnianp8250 Рік тому +1

    Nearly 500k now GS, you deserve a Mil by now!

  • @aleksalukovic4180
    @aleksalukovic4180 Рік тому

    That last merge, so thrilling!

  • @rafasocha882
    @rafasocha882 Рік тому +1

    i fu... love this thing !!! thats THE tchnology that will keep peace around the world !

  • @user-er1dh1nu9x
    @user-er1dh1nu9x Рік тому +2

    9:12 just like death hand!

  • @SeaDemon25
    @SeaDemon25 Рік тому

    that last fight was awesome. great video thx

  • @sdghomero
    @sdghomero Рік тому

    That last engagement was LIT!

  • @RongDuck
    @RongDuck Рік тому

    Best one yet. Always nice to see Longshot in the mix.

  • @feruser2489
    @feruser2489 Рік тому

    This is the 4th time I watch this, please do more of these, you are an amazing pilot

  • @ltjjenkins
    @ltjjenkins Рік тому

    Gotta love dude getting missle off with his last dying breath. Respect.

  • @mikemontgomery2654
    @mikemontgomery2654 Рік тому

    Loved the battle of wits. The merge at the end was awesome.

  • @erichk733
    @erichk733 Рік тому +1

    7:38 you can see the 22 just over the lower mountain low to the ground I think

  • @sovieticodiabetico6874
    @sovieticodiabetico6874 11 місяців тому +2

    it truly is the pilot, not the plane

  • @tom23rd
    @tom23rd Рік тому +1

    That was great, even considering the normal level of GS awesomeness. Hell yes

  • @Mister.Snake65
    @Mister.Snake65 Рік тому +2

    Video suggestion: 3 saab 35 draken vs 1 su-57

  • @carleighdeguzman4200
    @carleighdeguzman4200 Рік тому +1

    Round 1 the pilot survived. He was aboard the AMRAAM.

  • @derekwright3239
    @derekwright3239 Рік тому +3

    GS can you put together a DCS style Movie I think it would be cool to see?
    Love the quality of work you do on here!!!

  • @sleepingninjaquiettime
    @sleepingninjaquiettime Рік тому

    We need more of these in different scenarios.

  • @mage3690
    @mage3690 Рік тому +1

    The thing is, radars are going to be better and better, and at some point those radars are going to negate stealth, but stealth (or "low observability") will never truly die. In a world where lasers and decoys are getting better and better, you want those lasers to be able to dazzle the radars at least to the point that they can't see your aircraft, which will work much better with low observable aircraft, and you also want the decoys to be a larger return than your aircraft. It goes without saying that smaller decoys are generally cheaper decoys, and you can carry more of them, although they will also be more susceptible to lasers as a result. At some point you're going to fill the sky with so much clutter that radars and cameras (because why restrict your sensor platforms to just one radiation band?) won't be much good outside of knife-fighting range, and BFM becomes a thing again. Probably more often with AI drones doing BFM against other AI drones, because why put your manned aircraft in the line of fire? Anti-radiation missiles and sensor fusion will be a basic requirement in this hypothetical environment, but ARMs are traditionally large, expensive beasts, and sensor fusion is a team effort, so definitely no more knights of the sky getting into 1v1 BFM, unfortunately. In this hypothetical, it will happen on accident, though; so I think foregoing maneuverability in fighter aircraft will be a mistake.

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton Рік тому

    Very very nice flying GS. You beat him with pure smarts.

  • @cloudforest4087
    @cloudforest4087 Рік тому

    Fantastic last merge.

  • @muhammadsaadaslam4879
    @muhammadsaadaslam4879 Рік тому

    bro the last round is literally very fantastic the way u both tried to hide and changes the side😍😍

  • @samuelmorton4422
    @samuelmorton4422 Рік тому

    Last scene was like a movie!

  • @davedeville6540
    @davedeville6540 Рік тому

    Awesome showdown, loved it!

  • @Mysucculentchinesemeal
    @Mysucculentchinesemeal Рік тому

    You gave him the old “here, hold this.”

  • @benjaminspencer6507
    @benjaminspencer6507 Рік тому

    I love dogfights, From WWI to the present. It shows that man is the key!!

  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi Рік тому

    Oh man I thought he had you in the last round. Awesome fights!

  • @fredeb67
    @fredeb67 11 місяців тому

    This one kept me on the edge of my seat lol.

  • @jamesbowman5062
    @jamesbowman5062 Рік тому

    After you broke right and sailed over the traffic you could see him when you looked at the second missile.

  • @sitrep123able
    @sitrep123able Рік тому

    That battlefield music gets me every time

  • @jamesburrell677
    @jamesburrell677 Рік тому

    I always enjoy your videos but this one left me wanting to see MORE!!!!

  • @willlayard192
    @willlayard192 Рік тому +1

    It would be interesting to see the F35 vs the SU 57 in BVR especially if you were flying the f35

  • @benfoster5426
    @benfoster5426 Рік тому

    Great vid. My thoughts. Radar, Missiles. Stealth coating. Avionics. Situational awareness. Electronic air defense measures. Air frame shaping. Tactics. AWACS. Whoever has the best mix, wins.

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC Рік тому

    Awesome set up!

  • @AhHereWeGo
    @AhHereWeGo Рік тому

    I was hoping for a repeat of a couple years ago where he slots in behind and waits for you to notice

  • @FreShuuuuu
    @FreShuuuuu Рік тому +1

    7:38 i think we can see tally on f22 here. Little right to that smaller hill.

  • @aviationist1018
    @aviationist1018 Рік тому +10

    Hi GS, what if you did 1v1 dogfights with every F15 variant in DCS?

    • @CaptainBiggles.
      @CaptainBiggles. Рік тому +1

      There are only two, the E and the C unless you use mods, then you get the Nasa variant, the EX and the D "Baz"

  • @gustavorangel121
    @gustavorangel121 Рік тому

    Amazing video! I like to see you fighting against a better aircraft.

  • @Ozasuke
    @Ozasuke Рік тому

    Oh man... that traffic in Round 1 just saw an F-22 blow up over their heads and crash next to them.

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_5546 Рік тому

    the flares right in the face with the hypersonic; the absolute disrespect hahahaha

  • @PaskaKo
    @PaskaKo Рік тому

    round 3 was incredible on both sides...

  • @TotalDbag24
    @TotalDbag24 Рік тому

    I think the 2nd round is how modern air combat will go. Just minding your business flying around and dead lol

  • @stepankubicina2768
    @stepankubicina2768 Рік тому

    7:38 You can actually see him right there in the distance lol.