If somebody brings a utrip bat to an ASA/USA only bat league - let them hit with that utrip bat and laugh at them. It's a disadvantage to use Utrip bats because they have the highest compression among the different standards.
What kind of idiot brings an illegal bat to rec lob ball? It’s bad enough that guys are spending +$300 on a legal bat. I’m 51, I play slo-pitch because my rotator cuff won’t allow me to pitch in hardball anymore. I get it. This is just for fun. I feel like some of these guys, including dudes in my own league, believe they still have a chance to make the high school team and never really got over being cut the first time.
I played B conference about 15 years ago and watching this makes me laugh. Middle shots are common in the high levels of softball and you rarely had anyone cry about it unless it was one after another the entire inning. These guys can't hit it hard enough to seriously hurt anyone anyways.
This isnt conference bud. Its league night middle closed for a reason. Im sure you and your team took it way more serious then these guys probably had sponserships as well if you were B rated. This is more for fun no one trying to end up in the hospital
These are the same guys that yell at their kids game. Their are rules for a reason. It's a game and no one is being paid millions to play. Like he has said, guys have to work in the morning and don't need a trip to the E.R. Keep flexing on the internet softball videos. It makes you look so hard.
@@joeyb1766 Wow. You are aggressive for no reason. Good luck with that,. Easiest shot is a line drive in the gap. Or if you are talented, opposite field with a shift on. Hitting it at someone is just dumb.
@McLovin1759 my bad snowflake... sorry you had to run to your safe place...I actually can go to any field, but the EASIEST spot to go to is up the middle I pitch and don't care if you hit it at me because 8 out 10 times I'm getting you out.. and by middle I mean not going directly at the pitcher but the general area... it's okay, I'm sure your participation trophy will be in the mail soon
The biggest gap through the infield is between shortstop and second. Nobody is suggesting to hit the ball AT the pitcher. But he is also right where the big gap is. The second the ball is thrown he is just another fielder. Get the glove ready and field the ball. Everyone takes it personally and assumes the batter is aiming at them. If EVERY batter is doing it that is a different story.
@BrewJaysSoftball Don't pitch then if you're scared lol. Never heard of such a thing. Never seen a home plate like that either I used to have to hit an actual home plate for a strike.
Does the catcher for the brew birds honestly not know that every play at home is NOT a force out? He sets up like a first baseman to accept the throw with his foot on the plate every time there is a possible play at home. Regardless of the base runner situation. Wow
This is rec ball its a 1 hour time limit so to save time there is no need to run and it prevents the home team from taking a 5 min glory lap so a new inning can't be started
@@stevenloucks3415trying to save time hustle on the hop in and out off the field. Even grounders to the infield they won’t run I’m sure the beers before and during the game is not helping.
@@BrewJaysSoftballput the ball on a Tee since you can’t hit it to pitcher, pitchers a throwing balls anyway, these won’t even run if it’s hit in the infield. You want more time hustle on the hop in and out of the field. Primarily this league is hitting practice well every just shags the balls
@The81titans you obviously have no clue about stalling and what the other team is willing to hustle for lol the other team isn't going to hustle back on the field if they have a lead and time is almost out there is no mandatory 7 innings in rec ball tell ya what why don't you join a rec league and play a season and you will understand why they have made the seemingly stupid rules and how much of an improvement they make
It's against the rules, and many pitchers get very injured. No one is making money off this sport, and the pitcher needs to go to work the next morning.
Kind of funny the reference to the athletic guy playing catcher. I played for a couple different teams at different leagues, on one team I was the catcher, on the other team I played third base. I used to get a few pick offs per season when I was playing catcher.
@@BrewJaysSoftball naturally they do. Another place where they talk a ton of shit is out on the softball field. I played in a league where they used ASA bats, midway through the game these fuckin guys start swinging bats that are rattling like a mofo... The umpire looked at the bats and grabbed them and was like these are not allowed here and put them to the side near his equipment bag during the game. I had never seen an umpire go that far to enforce rules before then.
If you don’t count the utrip bag incident, which could have not amounted to crap, your team actually lost. Look at the 17:58 time of the video with your runner at third. He left way early being scared of the hitter. He should have been called out.
A lot of mixed feelings in here, I don’t normally pitch but when I do I am jumping gaps and trying to snap anything near me off. That first ball wasn’t even hit hard; the pitcher is standing there with his hip popped and hands down. He’s got a mask and maybe shins I can’t tell. Be a fielder after the pitch or play catcher, you’re a liability to your team and yourself if you’re not.
@@darklordojeda some rec leagues have that rule in place to protect players. It`s not the pros, they all have work the next day. It`s just the way it is, he`s just playing by the rules.
@@BrewJaysSoftball Great pitchers know how to pitch so the batter can't hit it up the middle at them....And or they know how to back pedal immediately and be ready for a comebacker. Played 20 years at a high level and never wore a mask. Never got hurt, but watched too many pitchers get drilled because they just stand there after the pitch.... SMH Vast Majority of the injuries I saw were the catcher and infielders getting hurt. WEAR A CUP!!!
Hitting up the middle as an auto out is just dumb. Especially in rec league. Not everyone can place a ball where they want. A lot of times you get younger kids just trying to kill the ball and they miss hit and it ends up as a comebacker. You can tell when people are trying to hit middle compared to when they miss hit. Not everyone needs to apologize but it’s also more common to see people who have pitched or played a long time apologize to the pitcher in those situations
What balls are you guys hitting? Because if you're hitting USA / ASA balls, there is no advantage in using a USSSA-stamped bat; in fact most ASA bats are hotter because they're designed to hit the softer balls. I understand rules are rules, but calling it "cheating" is a bit harsh. You are absolutely right that (a) getting to re-bat after getting caught using an illegal bat is ridiculous. There's supposed to be a penalty, not a reward. and (b) the umpire should have called that box shot, and since it's a dead-ball call, he could have and should have called it as soon as he realized it, no matter the delay.
Why are you looking in their dugout? A bat is only illegal if its taken to the plate if i were the next team there would be 10 illegal bats in the dugout and 5 leaning on the fence by the on deck circle just goes to show you how petty some people are in rec ball
We bring illegal Bats into the little league dugout and travel ball. Only against certain teams that try to protest every thing they can think of when they're losing.
That player and the manager of the team should have been suspended for using a usssa bat, I called them out for it last season. I tried protesting the game but Mike didn't want any part of it! I did email Pat about it so he should have enough to remove them from the league.
@@BrewJaysSoftball Unfortunately the Umpire Mike didn't want to push the issue which is bullshit but I let it go. Grit and Grace and Clean Machine where using USSSA Bats last season!
@@BrewJaysSoftball "Hi Pat, thanks for all the hard work on the schedules! This is Bill the manager of Code Blue and Coed Blue, we have caught two different teams using USSSA, ISF stamped bats with stickers on them. I am pretty sure the office staff did not sticker the bats. It is cheating and also dangerous for recreation softball. I would like to ask you to remind the umpire staff to watch for illegal bats and to enforce the automatic ejection and suspensions accordingly. I will also inform my catchers to watch for the USA/ASA stamps as well" Thanks Bill
Thanks for doing your part to keep our league safe. I try to do the same, and I sent Pat a long analysis on using the 52/300 balls a few years ago, and kept following up until they finally changed it to match the ASA rules. I enjoy playing you guys. Hopefully, you move up to A next season.
They get caught cheating. Rec league, and u have their batting average and ops .. that’s classic.. u making these guys really save these videos for their kids, to say they played ball when growing old .. some oldies think they young at heart and cry of the things that don’t matter .. thank god it’s not a beer league.. u will have putasos and clear benches every inning .. funny video anyway. 👍
@@BrewJaysSoftball I mean a U-trip bat doesn`t really make a difference in ASA/USA. I know leagues make it a rule to use the correct stamped bat but performance wise it doesn`t make a difference considering the compression of a ASA ball. The dude threatening over a softball game is pretty pathetic tho, can`t help but laugh at em knowing he got caught for using something that doesn`t even hit the ball harder than a legal bat lmao
My coed team would beat both these sorry teams. Sliding at home 😂 What colour T shirt did the winner of the league get. 😂 Drink beer Slay women Hit a ball Go to work the next day. That’s it!
I started playing softball in the 80s. I have umpired since 98. People didn't start complaining about hitting up the middle until well into the 2000s. Why have people become so sensitive? If you're afraid of getting hit, 1. wear a cup and mask, 2. backpedal after release, or 3. don't pitch. It's crazy to take away part of the field for hitters.
@@MaydayAggrothat’s when the bats changed. League up the middle was a no go. Tournaments middle was open. Back then up the middle with a de martini was no issue, og mikken ultra was a different story.
@@Ajindo76 I have played and umpired in leagues and tournaments for 35 years. In those leagues the middle has always been open. If you don't want balls smoked up the middle get your association to change the bat rules.
If you don’t count the utrip bag incident, which could have not amounted to crap, your team actually lost. Look at the 17:58 time of the video with your runner at third. He left way early being scared of the hitter. He should have been called out.
If you look closely he was in line with the base just in foul territory because the batter was pulling the ball towards 3rd. This is legal in most slow pitch leagues to prevent injury.
@@youngdrudown Even though by the looks of those 2 instances they were doing the same thing. They are moving in line with the base into foul territory while the batter pulls the ball towards third until ball is hit. Once ball is hit they advance. They might be leaving “the bag” a little early, but since they aren’t actually on the bag (due to batter hitting in their general direction) and angle is too poor to make an actual call I’d leave it to the field ump. On top of all of that, a fielder must appeal that a runner left early. Either way if I was behind the plate it’s still not my call to make.
@@treymccoy3934 I was actually responding to Original Commenter, I’m not sure on the logistics or the rules of being of the bag in this league specifically in regards to safety. But it’s not fair to point out one team doing it and not the opposing team.
If somebody brings a utrip bat to an ASA/USA only bat league - let them hit with that utrip bat and laugh at them. It's a disadvantage to use Utrip bats because they have the highest compression among the different standards.
i fine higher comp hit the 52s better but thats me since we have to use u-trip with asa balls in canada
Doesn't higher compression mean more pop off of the bat? Wouldn't that give them a benefit?
@@timmeh1516 no.
@@timmeh1516 you want lower compression to allow the barrel to flex to trampoline the ball.
What kind of idiot brings an illegal bat to rec lob ball? It’s bad enough that guys are spending +$300 on a legal bat.
I’m 51, I play slo-pitch because my rotator cuff won’t allow me to pitch in hardball anymore. I get it. This is just for fun.
I feel like some of these guys, including dudes in my own league, believe they still have a chance to make the high school team and never really got over being cut the first time.
I played B conference about 15 years ago and watching this makes me laugh. Middle shots are common in the high levels of softball and you rarely had anyone cry about it unless it was one after another the entire inning. These guys can't hit it hard enough to seriously hurt anyone anyways.
Brooooo I’m saying they crying bout like bro u didn’t even barrel it
That's great. Hope you made enough money to retire on.
This isnt conference bud. Its league night middle closed for a reason. Im sure you and your team took it way more serious then these guys probably had sponserships as well if you were B rated. This is more for fun no one trying to end up in the hospital
These are the same guys that yell at their kids game. Their are rules for a reason. It's a game and no one is being paid millions to play. Like he has said, guys have to work in the morning and don't need a trip to the E.R. Keep flexing on the internet softball videos. It makes you look so hard.
Why does everybody cry when someone goes middle, if you can't field the position don't play it... and I'm a pitcher
I’d say the same about hitting. It’s a lobbed ball. If you can’t avoid the middle, maybe try t-ball.
@@McLovin1759 middle is the easiest shot.. play your position and don't cry
@@joeyb1766 Wow. You are aggressive for no reason. Good luck with that,.
Easiest shot is a line drive in the gap. Or if you are talented, opposite field with a shift on.
Hitting it at someone is just dumb.
@McLovin1759 my bad snowflake... sorry you had to run to your safe place...I actually can go to any field, but the EASIEST spot to go to is up the middle I pitch and don't care if you hit it at me because 8 out 10 times I'm getting you out.. and by middle I mean not going directly at the pitcher but the general area... it's okay, I'm sure your participation trophy will be in the mail soon
The biggest gap through the infield is between shortstop and second. Nobody is suggesting to hit the ball AT the pitcher. But he is also right where the big gap is. The second the ball is thrown he is just another fielder. Get the glove ready and field the ball. Everyone takes it personally and assumes the batter is aiming at them. If EVERY batter is doing it that is a different story.
Ya'll need a new SS....everything was getting by him
He made some good plays too.
Nothing special
Why the hell is a ball up the middle automatically out? That’s part of the game. They might as well just put a net up like they do in co-ed.
We gotta go to work the next day.
@BrewJaysSoftball Don't pitch then if you're scared lol. Never heard of such a thing. Never seen a home plate like that either I used to have to hit an actual home plate for a strike.
@@BrewJaysSoftballno way u just said that 😂😂😂 we all fkn do part of the game nobody in this league hits hard enough to hurt
@@BrewJaysSoftballWhy play slo pitch? Play real softball, like orthodox pitching or fast pitch. Real strike zone, real rules, real strategy.
I have girls on my co-ed team that pitch that are less scared of the ball.
Does the catcher for the brew birds honestly not know that every play at home is NOT a force out? He sets up like a first baseman to accept the throw with his foot on the plate every time there is a possible play at home. Regardless of the base runner situation. Wow
I’m really trying to figure out why all these guys are leading off in slowpitch no slowpitch league or tourney is that allowed
This league, and many that go under SCAMF rules, allow lead off after the ball leaves the pitcher's hand.
@@BrewJaysSoftballdang, here in socal, that's only allowed in coed leagues and only for the ladies.
What a bunch of horrible players. The defense was atrocious.
It’s an out if you hit it up the middle?
These guys are lazy it’s why they’re out of shape you hit a home run and you won’t round the bases. I’m surprised they don’t bat sitting on a chair.
This is rec ball its a 1 hour time limit so to save time there is no need to run and it prevents the home team from taking a 5 min glory lap so a new inning can't be started
Hit and sit = more game time. No one needs to see the batter round the bases.
@@stevenloucks3415trying to save time hustle on the hop in and out off the field. Even grounders to the infield they won’t run I’m sure the beers before and during the game is not helping.
@@BrewJaysSoftballput the ball on a Tee since you can’t hit it to pitcher, pitchers a throwing balls anyway, these won’t even run if it’s hit in the infield. You want more time hustle on the hop in and out of the field. Primarily this league is hitting practice well every just shags the balls
@The81titans you obviously have no clue about stalling and what the other team is willing to hustle for lol the other team isn't going to hustle back on the field if they have a lead and time is almost out there is no mandatory 7 innings in rec ball tell ya what why don't you join a rec league and play a season and you will understand why they have made the seemingly stupid rules and how much of an improvement they make
Why should he say he’s sorry for hitting it up the middle. Softballs turning into a soy boy sport. Play your position.
It's against the rules, and many pitchers get very injured. No one is making money off this sport, and the pitcher needs to go to work the next morning.
@@BrewJaysSoftball What next, no shooting at the goalie in rec hockey? lol
Kind of funny the reference to the athletic guy playing catcher. I played for a couple different teams at different leagues, on one team I was the catcher, on the other team I played third base. I used to get a few pick offs per season when I was playing catcher.
Yeah. that comment was not cool. Made the catcher sad. But, people like to talk big on the internet.
@@BrewJaysSoftball naturally they do. Another place where they talk a ton of shit is out on the softball field. I played in a league where they used ASA bats, midway through the game these fuckin guys start swinging bats that are rattling like a mofo... The umpire looked at the bats and grabbed them and was like these are not allowed here and put them to the side near his equipment bag during the game. I had never seen an umpire go that far to enforce rules before then.
What utrip bat was clean machine using?
Z-1000
I love number twelve just chirping and window shopping
Glad you liked the video.
That play @ 2:05 was SICK !!!!
Sure was.
Proof you need beer in slowpitch
The catcher may be Athletic but has no idea how to play catcher lol
Which one?
Since when you can take a lead in slow pitch 😂
Since around 1949, when SCMAF published its rules.
No one going to talk about the secondary lead the guy took with the pitch in the air after the illegal bat guy?
Ends in a tie wtf
If you don’t count the utrip bag incident, which could have not amounted to crap, your team actually lost.
Look at the 17:58 time of the video with your runner at third. He left way early being scared of the hitter. He should have been called out.
I think they’re aloud lead off after the pitch, they did that the whole game
It allows you to get out of the way if you're standing where the batter tends to hit to.
A lot of mixed feelings in here, I don’t normally pitch but when I do I am jumping gaps and trying to snap anything near me off. That first ball wasn’t even hit hard; the pitcher is standing there with his hip popped and hands down. He’s got a mask and maybe shins I can’t tell. Be a fielder after the pitch or play catcher, you’re a liability to your team and yourself if you’re not.
Stay safe out there big boi.
1:19 Kayden Kross huh?
Why apologize for something you can’t control and why is up the middle a auto out ? That’s perfect placement for a guaranteed single.
It’s rec ball, and pitchers get hurt.
@@BrewJaysSoftball it's rec ball and you're protesting a game over a bat that somebody grounded out with. Lol, you're embarrassing.
@@darklordojeda some rec leagues have that rule in place to protect players. It`s not the pros, they all have work the next day. It`s just the way it is, he`s just playing by the rules.
@@BrewJaysSoftball Great pitchers know how to pitch so the batter can't hit it up the middle at them....And or they know how to back pedal immediately and be ready for a comebacker.
Played 20 years at a high level and never wore a mask. Never got hurt, but watched too many pitchers get drilled because they just stand there after the pitch.... SMH Vast Majority of the injuries I saw were the catcher and infielders getting hurt.
WEAR A CUP!!!
Hitting up the middle as an auto out is just dumb. Especially in rec league. Not everyone can place a ball where they want. A lot of times you get younger kids just trying to kill the ball and they miss hit and it ends up as a comebacker. You can tell when people are trying to hit middle compared to when they miss hit. Not everyone needs to apologize but it’s also more common to see people who have pitched or played a long time apologize to the pitcher in those situations
What balls are you guys hitting? Because if you're hitting USA / ASA balls, there is no advantage in using a USSSA-stamped bat; in fact most ASA bats are hotter because they're designed to hit the softer balls. I understand rules are rules, but calling it "cheating" is a bit harsh. You are absolutely right that (a) getting to re-bat after getting caught using an illegal bat is ridiculous. There's supposed to be a penalty, not a reward. and (b) the umpire should have called that box shot, and since it's a dead-ball call, he could have and should have called it as soon as he realized it, no matter the delay.
Slopitch is literally the most cringe sport played by non athletes
You have never played, are very competitive and athletic
It's fun. You should try it.
Why are you looking in their dugout? A bat is only illegal if its taken to the plate if i were the next team there would be 10 illegal bats in the dugout and 5 leaning on the fence by the on deck circle just goes to show you how petty some people are in rec ball
That would be fun.
We bring illegal Bats into the little league dugout and travel ball. Only against certain teams that try to protest every thing they can think of when they're losing.
That player and the manager of the team should have been suspended for using a usssa bat, I called them out for it last season. I tried protesting the game but Mike didn't want any part of it! I did email Pat about it so he should have enough to remove them from the league.
I had no idea that there were prior complaints, let alone actual protests with emails to Pat. Did you pay the $20?
@@BrewJaysSoftball Unfortunately the Umpire Mike didn't want to push the issue which is bullshit but I let it go.
Grit and Grace and Clean Machine where using USSSA Bats last season!
@@BrewJaysSoftball "Hi Pat, thanks for all the hard work on the schedules! This is Bill the manager of Code Blue and Coed Blue, we have caught two different teams using USSSA, ISF stamped bats with stickers on them. I am pretty sure the office staff did not sticker the bats. It is cheating and also dangerous for recreation softball.
I would like to ask you to remind the umpire staff to watch for illegal bats and to enforce the automatic ejection and suspensions accordingly. I will also inform my catchers to watch for the USA/ASA stamps as well"
Thanks Bill
Thanks for doing your part to keep our league safe. I try to do the same, and I sent Pat a long analysis on using the 52/300 balls a few years ago, and kept following up until they finally changed it to match the ASA rules. I enjoy playing you guys. Hopefully, you move up to A next season.
LOL, where were the threats of violence??? Thats every game in New Mexico and El Paso, TX. Just sounded like a bunch of chirping
Doesn't happen often here in CA. When there is a threat, it's usually taken seriously because we don't mess around.
Slo-Pitch.....not Softball. 🤦♂️
Is it not called slo-pitch softball?
They get caught cheating. Rec league, and u have their batting average and ops .. that’s classic.. u making these guys really save these videos for their kids, to say they played ball when growing old .. some oldies think they young at heart and cry of the things that don’t matter .. thank god it’s not a beer league.. u will have putasos and clear benches every inning .. funny video anyway. 👍
Thanks for watching. Come back for more.
Is the umpire a hobbit or is that a trick of the camera?
He's a great ball player.
21:38 Bottom 5th. Threats of violence from Clean Machine
I don't see any threats! It cuts off. Boo!
Thanks for pointing out my chapter mistake. It's at 18:23. "I'll knock that porn stache off your face.."
@@BrewJaysSoftball pathetic. There was no need for them to keep chattering. Glad your team kept their cool.
So you cant hit Close to the pitcher 😂😂 why even keep track of outs or keep score, ether play serious or dont..
The only way to be serious is to risk serious injury!
Y was the bat illegal?
Not the correct type of
@@BrewJaysSoftball I mean a U-trip bat doesn`t really make a difference in ASA/USA. I know leagues make it a rule to use the correct stamped bat but performance wise it doesn`t make a difference considering the compression of a ASA ball. The dude threatening over a softball game is pretty pathetic tho, can`t help but laugh at em knowing he got caught for using something that doesn`t even hit the ball harder than a legal bat lmao
As a pitcher I'd say up the middle with any bat is automatic out!!!
Cuz I'm snatching that shit the fuck up! You're OUT!!!! Lol
Right on. Stay safe out there.
the fielders on both teams are horrible, cant make any plays
Rec ball. That's the only way we can score runs!
My church league team would destroy these teams.
Left fielder is super trash!!!!! He need to be the catcher
Wanna sub in?
Anybody cries in softball about anything is red flag to me
thanks for watching.
💯💯💯
it shouldn't be a force out at home anyway.... you keep doing that, someone's going to break your foot or leg sliding in....not if, but when.
Thanks for watching.
Not so clean Machine
LOL. A bit of beer and whatever else before the game doesn't spoil the sober start date, right?
This is dumb.
Eloquent.
My coed team would beat both these sorry teams.
Sliding at home 😂
What colour T shirt did the winner of the league get. 😂
Drink beer
Slay women
Hit a ball
Go to work the next day.
That’s it!
Big man hit ball at woman right fielder. Big man feel giant!
Pu ssss yyyyyys protected league videos lmao
First off you don't apologize for hitting middle. Is it part of the game.
Why not apologize for doing something everyone knows can cause major injury to another?
I started playing softball in the 80s. I have umpired since 98. People didn't start complaining about hitting up the middle until well into the 2000s. Why have people become so sensitive? If you're afraid of getting hit, 1. wear a cup and mask, 2. backpedal after release, or 3. don't pitch. It's crazy to take away part of the field for hitters.
Play with a 5th infielder and twist the shit out of the weak gut shots.
@@MaydayAggrothat’s when the bats changed. League up the middle was a no go. Tournaments middle was open. Back then up the middle with a de martini was no issue, og mikken ultra was a different story.
@@Ajindo76 I have played and umpired in leagues and tournaments for 35 years. In those leagues the middle has always been open. If you don't want balls smoked up the middle get your association to change the bat rules.
If you don’t count the utrip bag incident, which could have not amounted to crap, your team actually lost.
Look at the 17:58 time of the video with your runner at third. He left way early being scared of the hitter. He should have been called out.
If you look closely he was in line with the base just in foul territory because the batter was pulling the ball towards 3rd. This is legal in most slow pitch leagues to prevent injury.
So you didn’t notice 14:55 or 16:10?
@@youngdrudown I was only speaking to the 17:58 time stamp.
@@youngdrudown Even though by the looks of those 2 instances they were doing the same thing. They are moving in line with the base into foul territory while the batter pulls the ball towards third until ball is hit. Once ball is hit they advance. They might be leaving “the bag” a little early, but since they aren’t actually on the bag (due to batter hitting in their general direction) and angle is too poor to make an actual call I’d leave it to the field ump. On top of all of that, a fielder must appeal that a runner left early. Either way if I was behind the plate it’s still not my call to make.
@@treymccoy3934 I was actually responding to Original Commenter, I’m not sure on the logistics or the rules of being of the bag in this league specifically in regards to safety. But it’s not fair to point out one team doing it and not the opposing team.