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The Art of Hades II with Supergiant Games' Jen Zee | Interview

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  • Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
  • In this exclusive video, Game Informer interviews Jen Zee, the renowned art director behind Supergiant Games' Bastion, Transistor, Pyre, and your favorite characters in Hades, about the making of Hades II. We discuss how art history inspired Jen when depicting Melinoë, why she loved revisiting her past work, the graphical differences between Hades and its successor, and fan art from Supergiant's community.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @user-sz2cv4bw5q
    @user-sz2cv4bw5q Місяць тому +904

    so good to finally hear from the person that my generation is named after 🙏🙏🙏

    • @infinitetranquilo
      @infinitetranquilo Місяць тому

      I hate you lmao took me a minute to get the joke

    • @immortalkombat9289
      @immortalkombat9289 29 днів тому +16

      Ace Attorney ahhh name

    • @Moji55a
      @Moji55a 28 днів тому

      My teacher fr2

    • @Balloonbot
      @Balloonbot 21 день тому +7

      Everybody has already forgotten about Mei Lenial 😢

  • @Haelian
    @Haelian Місяць тому +349

    Mel is SO much more detailed and it really shines in Hades 2. Great work Jen and the entire art team!

    • @tunab666
      @tunab666 Місяць тому +10

      Haelian heree! My fav Hades streamer/player/creator haha shot out!

  • @evemartinez8519
    @evemartinez8519 Місяць тому +128

    As an illustrator, and animation student, Jen Zee and all Supergiant team are such a big inspiration to look up to.

  • @grahamkristensen9301
    @grahamkristensen9301 Місяць тому +179

    I wonder how she feels knowing her art skills gave millions of people weapons grade bi-panic.

    • @belindaluna2067
      @belindaluna2067 Місяць тому +50

      I think she'd be fine with it. She has said she was onboard with the initial idea of depicting all the gods of the first Hades naked.

    • @potatomo9609
      @potatomo9609 Місяць тому +29

      @@belindaluna2067oh what we have lost 😔

  • @FryCanon
    @FryCanon Місяць тому +194

    Love this. Jen Zee is iconic!! Have loved her art for over a decade!

    • @FSmith-kv4fj
      @FSmith-kv4fj Місяць тому +5

      I first encountered her art when she was making items and site art for Gaia Online. I'm happy she's come so far since then.

  • @BucklingSwashes
    @BucklingSwashes Місяць тому +187

    1:50 I honestly never would have guessed that they were using different tech than the first game. I assumed it was the exact same engine with minor changes at best. They did an incredible job of mimicking the look of the first game. I had noticed improvements, especially to things like lighting and the general smoothness of animations, but I didn't think we'd gotten such an actual upgrade.

    • @freshFerdinand
      @freshFerdinand Місяць тому +21

      That's why Asphodel feels so different when Chronos sends you there, even though it looks exactly the same, even down to the enemies.

    • @Bards.98
      @Bards.98 Місяць тому +17

      I tried the first game again after playing the new one no stop, and it feels so unpolished compared to the new one, although when I played the first one I found it completely beautiful, the second one just raised the bar to Selene

    • @dpurut
      @dpurut Місяць тому

      @@Bards.98exactly!!

    • @ElementalNimbus
      @ElementalNimbus Місяць тому +4

      That news is honestly both super surprising to me as a huge fan of both Hades, and also not at all surprising as a fan of Supergiant Games since literally Bastion. They have never been a studio for lazy choices and it shines through game after game.

    • @iditrirajan
      @iditrirajan Місяць тому

      ​@@freshFerdinand I thought it was solely because Hades 2 was more zoomed in

  • @ACameronUK
    @ACameronUK Місяць тому +165

    The art of their games is instantly recognisable and iconic - hooray ☺️

    • @lynox8639
      @lynox8639 14 днів тому +1

      Right? I fell in love with it way back from transistor and to see it evolved to such a heighten state is so amazing

  • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
    @PhilipAlexanderHassialis Місяць тому +65

    The art direction and especially the zone art design is so much better than Hades 1. Kudos to the art team, and ofc to Darren for dressing it all up magnificently. Also, *WHERE IS THE COMPLETE SCYLLA & THE SIRENS ALBUM DARREN? WHERE IS IT???*

  • @stratovolcano7813
    @stratovolcano7813 Місяць тому +47

    I got punked by this title so hard because I've been waiting for a hades artbook since 2020 and I wanted this so bad to be a release video 🤧 heartbreak aside I'm soooo grateful to be able to listen to jen zees artistic process !!! Supergiant is one of my biggest inspirations and I've always been in love with jen zees art!

    • @theconfuzzleddoge
      @theconfuzzleddoge 2 дні тому +1

      oooh I think it would be amazing to have an artbook for both games once hades 2 releases fully

  • @paullittle835
    @paullittle835 Місяць тому +43

    She's such a star! Not only a supremely talented character artist, but also, what a scholar!

  • @ISawABear
    @ISawABear Місяць тому +18

    I love how even as wild as some of their designs can be (especially when compared to ancient Greek statues) they still have pin point lots of references to the depictions of the gods that informs their models.

  • @pastelhermit6946
    @pastelhermit6946 27 днів тому +6

    I just need an art book to drop for these games they are so beautiful!!

  • @DariaElGrellPozina
    @DariaElGrellPozina 23 дні тому +6

    I am SO OBSESSED with Jen Zee's art, ever since the Bastion, it has such a painterly quality, such a great balance between smoothness and details. If she ever makes an artbook whether of SuperGiant art or her own I would get it in a heartbeat. 💖

  • @Zories97
    @Zories97 Місяць тому +49

    Love this. I’m so excited for Hades 2 when it’s fully done and released.

  • @tristezaeternal
    @tristezaeternal Місяць тому +14

    Jen Zee is so talented like omg.... I wanna squeal at everything she created for both parts of Hades. And the passion of the community is only a fair tribute to such a great team as Supergiant

  • @BrettDalton
    @BrettDalton Місяць тому +29

    Love all the art work, since I accidentally came across transistor, I've been a massive fan

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 29 днів тому +5

    She's so genuine, and from the way she communicates I get the feeling that everyone at Supergiant is just having fun in the creative process of making these beloved games.

  • @andreeam.1888
    @andreeam.1888 Місяць тому +7

    Hades 2 has been a FANTASTIC early access. So much polished content already, it is insane. Had a blast with it. So happy to hear Jen speak about their creative process ❤❤

  • @Schizm1
    @Schizm1 Місяць тому +7

    She's AMAZING art director. Thank You for the interview!

  • @Crocthunder
    @Crocthunder Місяць тому +12

    Super iconic , I always leave seeing comm from artists also trying this art style out cause its rad

  • @topacio3696
    @topacio3696 Місяць тому +7

    I want super giant to know that I would buy art books of both Hades games in a heartbeat

  • @henrywilliams5427
    @henrywilliams5427 Місяць тому +11

    I wish they would make art books to collect.

  • @magiclife1998
    @magiclife1998 24 дні тому +2

    I soooo want an artbook with all the design processes.

  • @maxjohnson808
    @maxjohnson808 Місяць тому +3

    Literally just bought this game so very hyped to watch this interview. The art team at Supergiant under Jen Zee goes insanely hard with each game.

  • @penkuro1864
    @penkuro1864 Місяць тому +2

    Been following Supergiantgames and especially Jen religiously since Bastion. She always gives and keeps on giving! I find the part she mentioned about putting blinders on other creative fan arts very interesting. Glad that she shared that part of her creative process.

  • @TehTeh911
    @TehTeh911 Місяць тому +8

    I really wish she talked about some of her ideas with the witch you meet in Thessaly, because some choices were made and even though its still placeholder art I want to knoooooow

  • @barax9462
    @barax9462 День тому

    One of the 1st people in game industry that I memorised thier name,, After playing The Bastion, I was amzed with its art 🔥🔥🔥

  • @smollmighto
    @smollmighto Місяць тому +13

    Amazing art and characters I really love all of them, and they're so loveable, sometimes I can't skip a dialogue or chamber just to not missing them

  • @Ironwill_Games
    @Ironwill_Games 29 днів тому +2

    I really hope there’s some sort of art book of this game (and the one before actually) cause the amount of creative art is just amazing! Well done.

  • @TheM00ndawg
    @TheM00ndawg 29 днів тому +2

    literally can't wait to see what Narcisus looks like.
    loving the early access already.

  • @iESCAP1SM
    @iESCAP1SM Місяць тому +2

    Loving this! I have to admit that I miss the quirky little brightly coloured lines and dots used in the first game’s artwork. This is more refined and sticks to clear palettes, but the first game’s art had qualities I’d show our interns

  • @Bogrin
    @Bogrin Місяць тому +4

    Loving the early release so far! Keep up the great work!

  • @DogginsFroggins
    @DogginsFroggins Місяць тому +2

    This woman is legendary imo and will go down as one of the best artistic minds in the games industries history, glad to hear her opinions, the team at Supergiant is amazing!

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT Місяць тому +29

    Some of the best art in games.

  • @pinstripeowl
    @pinstripeowl 28 днів тому +1

    This was great - its so good hearing influences on the art and i really have loved hades ii so fer

  • @thiagocosta3953
    @thiagocosta3953 29 днів тому

    the art of supergiant games is so, so good. every one of them is unique and gorgeous. thank you, Jen zee and the team!!

  • @zahiar
    @zahiar 29 днів тому +1

    I learned about internal game design from her. So fascinating.

  • @MyNamesHunter75
    @MyNamesHunter75 29 днів тому +1

    Honestly supergiant is kinda my dream studio to work at more so because i just adore the art and games and the art is integral to their overall games

  • @bantyone5299
    @bantyone5299 29 днів тому +1

    Awesome video. I love'd getting to see Hades 1 development through No Clip and I am grateful Game Informer is also covering Hades 2 dev!

  • @leicean
    @leicean Місяць тому

    I’ve played the early access and omg this game is just as fun and amazing story-wise but the art ties it all together and I’m obsessed!!!!

  • @anna-kay-dweight
    @anna-kay-dweight 28 днів тому

    Oh yes, when I started playing Hades II, I definitely felt the _smoothness_ and upgraded feel of the art and environment, despite it being a sequel. Everything is familiar, yet _new_ and _improved_. And the design of the camp in the Crossroads is so satisfying. I love returning there after each attempt. And bathing and fishing with friendly characters. :) Meeting familiar characters with their new looks is sooo good. New characters are also very inspiring (and can't wait for designs of robed figures!). Thank you Jen Zee and the team. Incredible job! 💚

  • @poszy6
    @poszy6 21 день тому

    Have not played the game but in love with the art

  • @kraja15
    @kraja15 Місяць тому +6

    3:06
    Oh - *mood* paintings.
    Well i clearly heard that wrong lmao

  • @krjal3038
    @krjal3038 Місяць тому

    Fantastic interview. That's the type of behind-the-scenes info I love to hear about in game dev.

  • @bigmanfrank5708
    @bigmanfrank5708 19 днів тому

    This looks so cool love the characters design look forward to playing this game love creativity

  • @BrettDalton
    @BrettDalton Місяць тому +2

    In that opening sequence is a track we haven't heard yet that I remeber.... Can't wait to hear it all

    • @Evan_Campbell
      @Evan_Campbell 28 днів тому

      nah. it's not from the game. the editor spent way too much time trying to find tracks in a digital library that felt like they matched the tone of the ones in the game. i bet a comment like this made it all worth it though.

  • @ceno10101
    @ceno10101 Місяць тому +51

    I feel her name is a stage name. Hades 3 will be art directed by Jen Alpha.

  • @seandever5761
    @seandever5761 Місяць тому

    The art is beautiful thank you so much for this game!

  • @Vub.
    @Vub. Місяць тому

    Cant wait to play this. First one was hooked

  • @Spaszer1
    @Spaszer1 Місяць тому

    I loved this video! thank you very much

  • @davidbush8894
    @davidbush8894 Місяць тому

    Jen Zee is a legend. Supergiant games have so much style it’s unreal.

  • @RoyalMudcrab
    @RoyalMudcrab Місяць тому +12

    I've had a small crush on Jen since Developing Hell and I had hoped she'd do an interview on Hades II. It's been great so far.

  • @JayPeaFenn
    @JayPeaFenn Місяць тому +1

    One of the greats 💪

  • @kurrohii3957
    @kurrohii3957 27 днів тому

    They need to release an art book!

  • @NickelCanvas
    @NickelCanvas Місяць тому

    Great interview!

  • @petersiedlart
    @petersiedlart 6 днів тому

    awesome art!

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis 26 днів тому

    i love her artwork so much!!! And Joanne Tran, who is the enviroment artist if I got their name right--SPECTACULAR WORK!!!!!

  • @Chief_Ten_Bears
    @Chief_Ten_Bears 15 днів тому

    That chuggy guitar in the intro was NICE

  • @brainpattern
    @brainpattern Місяць тому +6

    I agree that Hades 2 is even better. Can't wait for the game to be out in full, but it's been a blast to play in early access so far.

  • @user-ew7cu3bh1w
    @user-ew7cu3bh1w 17 днів тому

    Jen Zee is such a cool name❤

  • @bruceleeroy4258
    @bruceleeroy4258 5 днів тому

    hades 3 where you play as zag and mel in co-op with dlc where you can play as Red from transister and Kid from bastion $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ btw I fuckin love Pyre its like medieval NBA JAM and i wish people would show it more love

  • @Bards.98
    @Bards.98 Місяць тому

    I totally agree with the looks the same feels different

  • @LeonardoSilva-kc1id
    @LeonardoSilva-kc1id 29 днів тому

    ❤❤

  • @mis.-ty7ej
    @mis.-ty7ej Місяць тому

    I don't even play hades, I am here for the great arts and hot characters!

  • @Himegw
    @Himegw 28 днів тому

    Wow, this is awsome. After playing the 2 the 1st hades seems like a beta verson. I love 2. Congrats ❤❤❤

  • @Bards.98
    @Bards.98 Місяць тому +3

    The second game hasn't even came out yet and i am already excited to see what will they do with Hades lll and Marika

  • @shut7565
    @shut7565 Місяць тому +8

    It's funny how you guys scrolled through Hades twitter and then there's that one Lore Olympus fan art LMAO at 15:47

  • @Saida-qy3ee
    @Saida-qy3ee Місяць тому

    ♥♥♥♥♥♥

  • @everlastin8732
    @everlastin8732 21 день тому

    Kinda wanna see that mood painting ngl

  • @idk-vk2fp
    @idk-vk2fp 7 днів тому

    WHEN ARE WE GETTING HADES ART BOOKKKKKK

  • @bryanlee1014
    @bryanlee1014 Місяць тому +1

    14:38 😳

  • @MikeyJ1572
    @MikeyJ1572 20 днів тому

    can't believe that that's an actual person's actual name

  • @karlhendrikse
    @karlhendrikse 26 днів тому +1

    No way that there is an actual person called jen zee that's hilarious

  • @TsasmineBaldwin
    @TsasmineBaldwin 29 днів тому

    9:54 that's kronos, not chronos

  • @marielcarey4288
    @marielcarey4288 21 день тому

    13:59 heheheheh

  • @JDEdwards2331
    @JDEdwards2331 Місяць тому +12

    I need to go back and listen but did she say Hades 1 was in 2D? My brain refuses to accept that lol.

    • @ir-dan8524
      @ir-dan8524 Місяць тому +30

      The engine is in 2D, which limits lighting and perspective features, but all the gameplay art is pre-rendered sprites that use 3D models. Technically the game could've been made without these models but it saved a lot of time/repetition with the 8-directional movement.

    • @JDEdwards2331
      @JDEdwards2331 Місяць тому +3

      @@ir-dan8524 you're awesome. Thank you.

    • @belindaluna2067
      @belindaluna2067 Місяць тому +17

      This was why you could only pet one of Cerberus' heads.

    • @ir-dan8524
      @ir-dan8524 Місяць тому +4

      @@belindaluna2067 You can only pet one because the rest don't like it

    • @iditrirajan
      @iditrirajan Місяць тому +3

      ​@@ir-dan8524that's canonical justification to cover engine's shortcoming. Many games do this. Hades have too

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 Місяць тому +1

    "What color would their underwear be? (The raspy voice is non negotiable when submitting questions to the director.) What's their favourite food for breakfast?"

  • @muddyboots7753
    @muddyboots7753 5 днів тому

    I tip I want to give to these new upcoming studios - never take on investors, or partners. Do things on your own terms. If you need funding, go to your actual fans. They won't hesitate to support. Investors are the leeches to every good thing.

  • @Pumpkininater
    @Pumpkininater 29 днів тому

    W

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 Місяць тому

    Hades: Ody-illissy
    Hades 2: Illi-odessy

  • @ragros12
    @ragros12 Місяць тому +1

    Ah I was hoping for a little more depth on the creative reasoning for transitioning away from the pre-rendered sprites for character models.
    I can only assume that due to the increased capabilities of the new engine they did it because they could, not because it would serve any artistic purpose. If anything they are detracting from the appeal by removing the final layer of controlled polish which was previously given to the sprites...

  • @blackholesun4942
    @blackholesun4942 9 днів тому

    05:47 lol
    08:30 the painting is more simple. Hecate design too full imo
    10:42 why does selene ride a horse?
    14:45 a bit unfortunate 😢

  • @KeyT3ch
    @KeyT3ch Місяць тому +1

    Gen Z?

  • @97wojak
    @97wojak Місяць тому +2

    Is her name pronounced Gen Z?

  • @user-ed5wc1op9o
    @user-ed5wc1op9o 26 днів тому

    I expected some early artwork to be shared. Disappointing.

  • @mutialtanovv1718
    @mutialtanovv1718 6 днів тому

    I gotta say, everything looks the same as the last Hades, BUT I think the character illustrations are so bad, so so bad, they dont look divine at all in my opinion. kinda sad, because I went back to hades 1, and just the illustrations there are so much more divine, and detailed, and just...better.

    • @eonamiella2124
      @eonamiella2124 15 годин тому

      I'll agree the art is a bit of a mixed bag this time around, mostly for the returning characters but I do find Aphrodite's to be a massive upgrade. Probably my favorite of the new ones, I love the new face and how she has weapons. Artemis though, she looked way better in the first, she looks too different here imo

  • @Faceu7745
    @Faceu7745 Місяць тому +6

    She's the real piece of art...

  • @ju7644
    @ju7644 Місяць тому

    their work is impressive and great. nemesis' design kinda pissed me off tho

  • @LimaJayaSRC
    @LimaJayaSRC Місяць тому

    The only good thing Gen Z has done 😂😂😂

  • @smoogles.5534
    @smoogles.5534 29 днів тому +2

    cool but wasted because the game has these bizarre diversity characters for no reason but just to force them in, instead of something genuinely creative we could of got from her. oh well.

    • @smoogles.5534
      @smoogles.5534 27 днів тому

      @@marciasouzabavaro2877 It's blatantly obvious that the recent changes in the gaming industry are being forcefully driven by a DEI agenda. This isn't about personal preference; it's a clear-cut fact. There's a bizarre wave of people who, without question, label any critique of these changes as 'hate.' But let's call it what it is: a purely agenda-driven move that does nothing to enhance the game. It panders to a microscopic minority, and despite the billions of dollars invested in these initiatives, they repeatedly fail because what they're pushing isn't in line with the natural interests of the broader gaming community. This isn't progress; it's a distraction from what gamers actually want. Funny enough, a few media outlets posted the same kind of article at the same time. They synchronized their watches courtesy of BlackRock and Vanguard ESG directives. It's not a coincidence; it's a coordinated effort to push this agenda from the top down.
      And nothing screams 'god-like being' like being in a wheelchair, right? It's laughable. The absurdity of these forced representations, which are supposed to be empowering, only serve to highlight the disconnect between these so-called progressives and the actual interests of the gaming community.

  • @MateriaGirl
    @MateriaGirl Місяць тому +5

    Ngl. The art is decidedly worse this time around. The character poses are stagnant and they aren't representative of their personalities. Hades is renowned for how dynamic and full of life the portraits are. The Hades 2 versions are standing still, in normal positions, with nothing indicating who they are. Hermes is just... Standing there. In the first game he was visibly on his way somewhere, at a crazy angle. The new design doesn't even have visual indicators that it's him. And the dynamic, colorful lighting effects are largely missing now, too. It's an obvious downgrade and I don't get it.

    • @dunadan1995
      @dunadan1995 Місяць тому +10

      The game’s still in early access, plenty of characters’ art isn’t finished yet with some even being placeholders or a coarse doodle. If other characters are gonna have sprites closer in terms of detailing to what Melinoe has, it’s gonna be a massive upgrade over Hades 1 imo.
      Also, it’s a completely different aesthetic and a different context from the first game, it’s more melancholic and slower by design, hence the different posing and impressions on characters’ faces.

    • @MateriaGirl
      @MateriaGirl Місяць тому +3

      @@dunadan1995 they drew fully finished art as placeholders? That's fucking stupid. This isn't placeholder art.

    • @dunadan1995
      @dunadan1995 Місяць тому +9

      @@MateriaGirl no, the art for Narcissus, Charon and Selene(dismounted in the Crossroads) are literally placeholders - as in the people in cloaks, the same placeholders that were in Hades 1’s early access. And arts for Hades, Icarus, Cerce and Medea are rough sketches of their complete future art.
      Some of the other art is less detailed than usual too - new Artemis sprite looks scruffy, and plenty of NPC’s with extensive dialogue don’t have more than one sprite yet, which is bound to change - all the people important to the plot had more than one sprite in Hades 1 to make them seem more expressive(Meg, Than, Hades, Dusa, Nyx, Persephone). And if you remember the early access for the first game - arts for plenty of characters changed for the full release from how they were in Early Access too - more details and polish was added for the full release.

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 25 днів тому

      ⁠@@dunadan1995 Sure on one hand it’s an early access “game”… but they’re charging money for it NOW so it’s still fair to criticize its current state. Especially when a lot of buzz around the game was “yeah, it’s technically early access but it’s basically completely done”. You’d think with how successful the first one was, they wouldn’t need to do a paid early access again.

    • @dunadan1995
      @dunadan1995 25 днів тому +2

      ​@@mrshmuga9 Nobody forces you to play the early access version though. The cost of the game is lowered compared to the full release for a reason and the reason is that the game is unfinished and the devs need feedback. Hence the 3 long-ass patches that they've released since the intial EA version came out that have like half of the changes based on audience feedback. Please wait for the full release if you can't deal with the fact that the game isn't really finished just yet.
      That being said, they didn't release the first Hades in early access because they couldn't release the game in a complete state either, they EA'd it to get as much feedback and balance the game as much as humanly possible so that it'd become the best version of what it could be - which is what happened, and which is why Hades was so well recieved when it actually launched.
      Also, why'd you put "game" in quotations? The actual *gameplay* itself is pretty much done, what we don't have yet is one biom, one weapon, some visuals and the story beats(also some Gods are rumored to be added later as well, but that's just speculation). The EA version of the first Hades had 4 weapons with no aspects, initially looked like actual ass with pretty much all of the in-game art changing by the time it released and also ended the run after beating Hydra in the second biome. Hades 2 is a goddamn goldmine of content by comparison with its 5 weapons, 6 biomes including the final boss, keepsakes, aspects for existing weapons, the Fear mechanic(aka the Heat mechanic that wasn't introduced until launch in the first game) etc. In terms of gameplay Hades 2 already has pretty much everything that was beloved in Hades 1, they're just testing out all of the new stuff. I've personally played this game for 50 hours already and enjoyed it immensely.

  • @AnonYmous69271
    @AnonYmous69271 Місяць тому +5

    You mean the horrible, ugly art where they race swapped characters?

    • @joshuasgameplays9850
      @joshuasgameplays9850 Місяць тому +2

      They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped by the Greeks, not because they themselves were ethnically Greek.
      Also who the hell cares it’s a fucking video game.

    • @Corndoggo
      @Corndoggo Місяць тому +8

      +they aren't 1 to 1 exact replicas of the Greek gods, they are inspired by them to create characters for a story the Hades team came up with.

    • @bluevortexpng1211
      @bluevortexpng1211 Місяць тому +1

      do you want to bitch and moan about ares, athena, dionysus, and patroclus from the first game as well? just for having a darker skin tone in their designs? or is it just hestia you're mad about because she isn't conventionally attractive enough

    • @dunadan1995
      @dunadan1995 Місяць тому +14

      Race swapped who exactly? The burnt face of Hestia, the literal goddess of fire? Or maybe a very specifically Ancient Egypt inspired Chronos? Or maybe having literal Greek gods with some tan is completely unreasonable and anything other than completely white rendition is offensive to your refined tastes? What, you’re gonna complain that making Hephaestus crippled is woke too? Look at more anime girl №36942 Hestia art and GTFO.

    • @iditrirajan
      @iditrirajan Місяць тому

      ​@@dunadan1995except they did. They did complained about the fact that Hephastus is crippled because of the "wokes"