Quad Cortex Mini is coming...
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2024
- We went to NAMM and NDSP had a very interesting booth. Here is some wild speculation.... why spend $35K on a booth space this big unless you are hinting at something big? NDSP releases plugins all the time, which usually just gets hints on their insta story... so again why put a giant "SOON" sign unless you have something big in the works? We already have a pretty big feature roadmap when it comes to the store as well as plugin integration so.... is that what is coming soon?
I doubt it.....I think its hardware and I think NDSP will go smaller before they go bigger. UA, Tonex, and Kemper Player are all very successful pedal sized units and the QC, while being the smallest of the full-size units, is still a full sized unit.
I think some kind of QC Mini is on it's way and I think it will feature stereo in and out, Dual amps... NDSP makes best in class products at a competitive price point so I would expect this to be priced the same as ToneX at $299 while being far more feature rich.
Would you buy a dual capture QC Mini?
The QC is the best modeler hands down. I had the HX Stomp. Took it back to the store and got the Helix. When the Quad Cortex came out I bought it and immediately knew that the Helix was done for. I traded the Helix immediately. I love my QC.
Dual Cortex
Boom.
The HX stomp is easy to beat. Yet, nobody has... I'd like to see more competition in that form factor and at that price range. I think the Kemper player competes more against the Tonex IMO.
Helix sounds like doo-doo
@@thecastermaster1 ...if you don't know what you're doing.
I use hx efx with my Kemper . Line 6 efx is amazing
@@adamwilcox6405 or brainwashed.
Ampero 2 stomp?
NDSP know all the marketing tricks very well. They raised a lot of eyebrows with their booth made all of us start speculating but most of all they avoided having to answer all those questions about PCMP. Win win for them indeed. I doubt new hardware is coming, they just bought time.
I'm kinda glad that I've always a guitar chaser than another pedalboard chaser. I want more guitars. I'm very happy with my Helix Floor. All of this reminds me that everything in life comes back full circle, like the old stereo systems with the 33 albums. All of the tone chasing will eventually lead people back to, "I should have kept my tube amp" because that's where all of this will eventually lead to...back to the real deal.
Dude if I can get a QC the size of tone X with plug-in compatibility!? Man! I’d buy in a heartbeat. A hardware extension of the plugins we already have would be INSANE! I’d honestly rather have a QC with everything the QC already has just adding the plug-in compatibility. If you ca do that in a smaller platform that’d be insane.
I think if they do go mini they drop the profiling part for sure. They could restrict it to plugin only amps and fx or something if that sort.
Look at the Ampero Mini. It has a touch screen, amps, cabs, fx, and true stereo out with a y adapter. There are many ways neural can retain a lot of the Quad Cortex without compromising FX or too much DSP. Definitely excited nonetheless
Where can I listen the podcast?
Fingers crossed!
I want them to make a power amp for the QC really bad
Especially if it can run two amps at once. I could use that. My band I work for love pedals. This would be fantastic.
This is exciting. I was thinking about a quad cortex but a mini could be a great option, I hope this is more than just speculation.
All I want for my quad cortex is a matched cabinet automatically selected for each amplifier you select just like in the real world. I don’t want anything else.
as soon as they mentioned a month ago that PCOM was almost here and "as we’re approaching the end of the project, most of the work concerns sensitive items that we cannot share many details about" I immediately thought new hardware, and after the Kemper Profiler Player landed... NDSP had to get in on that
I can see neural releasing a slim rack unit version. Think about how many bands just leave the QC in the play back rigs. Because we can just program the pedal and tone changes?
And we have the desktop editor! So the QC rack unit won’t even really need a large screen like how fractal and helix do.
That would be AWESOME!! But if it’s stereo/dual amps it will be more like $6-700 I think. More processor power and ins/outs. I would certainly pay $600 for that device!
ooh that "quad cortex" booth is freaky, soonTM
HW you’re a genius
😅 Thanks, I'm probably completely wrong and it's a new plug in!
I hope this is true, I could also see a hardware plugin player to put on your pedalboard
The future is VSTs... Whoever builds a great pedal unit hardware that can load VSTs wins the game. Imagine a hardware just like the Quad Cortex that can load VST? NAM + your favourite reverb VST plugin...
I've had everything from Boss, Headrush, Helix, Kemper, Tones, and QC. Kept my Kemper, but the QC blows them away. And I remember having a Zoom 505 in the mid 90's.
Why not keep the QC?
Soon. Like the Editor, only took 3 Years (or was it more) - now only 1 more year for plugin support and then 1 more for a decent way to sell presets...
Infuriating. I think the “SOON” Sign at NAMM was a middle finger to the existing customer base that has been waiting years for them to fulfill their original promises.
It’s just pure speculation. Nothing to get upset about. Yet……
Why would you buy a product based on hopes instead of what it is. This is on you.
@@tonepilotI meant the SOON sign. I clarified my post.
No it wasn't. So many fragile guitar players out there.
@@checkitout611 fine to be upset about that. Not ok to think it's a middle finger.
Here’s my experience with QC. I’ve owned it for almost a year now and I love the sound. I upgraded from a Helix that I bought the first month it was available and have continually updated and played. It was rough at first but after a few releases they got the picture. Line 6 treats their customers very well. Back to the QC. The first problem was updating. Somebody thought it would be such a cool thing to use wireless. Yippie, the only problem was my wireless signal wasn’t strong enough so I had to go to my router and update from there. That’s handy. You can read about many users as thrilled as I. Next of course was the editor. Back down to the router I go. Okay it works. Now Neural tells me too bad I didn’t wait a few months because they would give me something free. But when those pesky plugins work we just might have something for you but until then we’ll just lower the price or your unit by two hundred bucks. Ain’t that customer loyalty or what. You folks are wonderful and a pleasure to watch. Please help an old dude feel better about being a dope.
I hear ya I have to walk upstairs to my router to update also. Not sure if it's clear from my video but Helix is the one taht lowered their price, not QC. Not sure if the way I said it was confusing.
I don't get your editor comments.... why did they give you a cheaper unit?
@@ToneJunkieTV NeuralDSP lowered the prices of their QC a few months ago, I think around the time the ToneX pedal was released. From 1899€ to 1699€, at least here in Germany.
@@PippPrissback to original price. They were previously that 1699 mark but were raised during the chip shortage.
The editor already came out of beta, Cortex Control 1.0.0 was released on Jan 04 this year
Why should they not reveal a mini QT at this stage? I mean everyone run away and buy the Kemper P player and then when the mini qt is released many have allready have made there purschase or choosed path?
From a plugin perspective, a suite that combines the plugins is a huge requested feature from the community. And with the X-versions coming up now, it`s now possible. And this will, IMO, put Neural DSP above the other vendors that have copy/pasted the same formular. And why relase an optional hardware when the original hardware is yet to fullfill its promises?
Maybe Quad Cortex is coming out with a rackmount and a foot controller. The QC Mini is a great idea to compete with the Kemper Player.
If they come out with a QC mini with dual amps my ToneX pedals are going to reverb “Soon”
If there is a mini it’ll still be way more expensive than the ToneX pedal.
@@JayTheLane that’s fine with me if it runs dual captures .
Im waiting for NDSP to make it the size of my phone and play my guitar for me.
Seems to be the main consensus.
I'm waiting for guitar auto tune to fix my playing . Will pair well with my vocals auto tune cuz I can't play or sing worth a crap.
If you guys come to Oz I wanna be guest on the panel 🫡
Id only buy it if it supported plugins on day 1. Then id buy it day 1
Twin Synapse!
I think all the plugins are coming to quad cortex AND there will come a new hardware. The Pluging live player.
Why hasnt anyone really talked about the octavetech c1 that was at namm? Looks interesting but noone has said much about it.
I chose it as my "Best of NAMM" in the video that just came out.
@@ToneJunkieTV thanks I feel dumb now lol
@@user-sp2ox2px2yActually I just realized that the video hasn’t published yet so you didn’t miss anything. 😂
That makes sense, I just skimmed the interview with kemper and didn't hear so I guess I'm not crazy
Is that a window tablet with an integrated audio interface?
instead i would prefer a unit that offer plugin compatibility with the form factor of the P1 by mooer i think it would be more gig oriented and for people like me that already have the plugins. I also have the QC but sometimes there is not even space for that in the stage. I play in salsa bands and rock bands and sometimes you have to set up truly fast.
Would be smarter for them for a rack Version of the quad cortex
Makes sense for them to come out with a mini version.
minimum 4 button with at least delay ,chorus and reverb and im in if its affordable.
Speaking of quad cortex 👀
Quarter Cortex or Half Cortex
Naa it would be a Quartex bro 😂
😂😂😂😂 penny cortex
CMON DUAL CORTEX I NEED YOU
I think too, quad cortex is too much expensive compared to kemper player, or fractal FM3…
Wait, who’s that guy who I don’t recognise without a bass in hand? I just can’t put my thumb on it…
I think he used to work at Wampler 😉
@@ToneJunkieTV riiight. Josh Wampler. Love that guy!
everybody wants small pedals IDK, I want rack versions 😎
Maybe they should fulfill their promises for the original one first.
Maybe you should read their blog post before commenting first
@@StupidGuitarLink please.
@@DavidEidelberg are you incapable of finding their website on your own?
@@StupidGuitarAre you too lazy to provide a link to something you referenced? Yes, I looked in their website and didn’t see what you’re talking about.
@@DavidEidelberg so you’re incapable of navigating a website to the news section? It’s funny you’re calling me lazy. I read their updates. I didn’t go cry in a comment section, inaccurately, instead of educating myself. But by all means throw shade champ. That’s a sure fire way to get what you want…
Neural player would be sweet. I just can not for the life of me cope with latency. I run an RME Fireface with really low buffer settings but it just never feels as direct as the Kemper, which is still a really small ways off an actual amp. If NeuralDSP could give me a player for the vsts I already bought, maybe a handful of their amps from the QC, a good selection of the effects or limit it to one stereo path or give me only 4 slots and a digital out in addition to analog outs… and get the unit below 600 bucks, why would I not give them my money?
RME should be about 3 ms latency. Kemper also has 3 ms latency. Shouldn't feel very different.
@@joejohnson8966 I hear you. The reality is that you need to go through the DAW, so that’s 4.5 ms roundtrip at 32 samples buffer. My monitoring system is dsp based and adds another almost 1.5 ms. Which for A LOT of players is still perfectly fine. Not for my brain, though. I completely lose my timing (which is just fine with low/no latency) and I lose the connection to the guitar. Meaning: because everything feels like being stuck in amber, I play with too much force. And I can’t help it, the notes I hear are just not connected to my strings. I have recorded since basically 1999 and was never able to retrain my thoughtmeat. I still prefer an amp, but the Kemper for me is just within the range where I don’t have that disconnect. I have it connected to an amp and guitar cab and that works perfectly. Would I still appreciate Christoph providing us with a 96kHz update to further reduce latency? That’s a firm yes for me.
Interesting....and sounds logical.
To my mind (or for me to want one) it has to be more than just stereo amps, it has to be the FX too albeit in some limited way.
Line 6 had amazing success with the Stomp (and still sells) because it has everything AND fits on a pedal board with room for a few of one's favourite other FX (or for really small gigs works on its own).
Just "The Cortex"
Dual Cortex?
We´re on the way to A CORTEX (Boss size mini neural thingy) @@ToneJunkieTV
@@ToneJunkieTV dual cortex for the HX stomp sized. "Cortex" for the boss ir2 size.
QC needs to get on with it... or close down. I particularly hate the wall wart. Use a kettle lead FGS.
I think if I had to guess they're going to come out with a smaller unit that's only going to be players for the plugins because they can't find a way to integrate the plugins properly into the bigger unit
Except plugin support is coming in Q2
ive been gigging the qc for over a year now, its not a great as you guys think it is. i only keep using it because it has a small footprint with a big screen. If i could load helix software into it, i would in a heartbeat
What are the shortcomings to you?
@@thesoozeTJ geez where do I start? How bout UI workflow, first getting to and from gig view requires an awkward swipe up that doesnt always happen and takes a lot of practice to get good at and lets hope your not sweating, a button to tap would be so much easier. Back and forth auditioning amps/fx it requires a few extra steps then it should and can be really frustrating especially under pressure, helix really spoiled me on that. With available fx's you only get a small amount of basic selection. A handful of delays and reverbs, couple of compressors and mods. It was promissed at launch better and more pitch related things. Like a drop capo type thing that still hasn't come and you have to use the whammy to simulate it. The cab system looks cool, but there is not a big difference changing mics and not many cabs included, getting IR's into the unit has been a big ordeal, it may be easier now with the Editor. The amp model selection is pretty scarce if you ask me. I do not like the captures, they really need some type of liquid profiling equivalent, because you have to be able to tweak and in this case it all really falls apart when you try to do so, especially captured pedals. But even if you were someone who liked captures, the way they organize them in the unit is horrible, make take 15 minutes of page turning to get to something that interests you, but if that turns out not to be it you gotta start all over, but thats more UI stuff. The wahs are not very useable, you cant adjust the frequency sweep on them. I really miss the ability to assign a function or multiple functions to a footswitch, many will say you can do that with scenes, but its not the same thing and very hard to explain that to people. With helix you can assign a single footswitch to do pretty much anything from turn on and off multiple pedals, change snapshot and presets, change settings. All while the other footswitches wouldnt be effected. Giving you lots and lots of combinations of function, even within a single patch. Finally, ive been paying close attention to how neural has been carrying themselves and i get the impression that after the plugin integration is done they wont be doing much else with the qc, unlike helix and fractal who have regularly added more of everything. Theres been 2 updates in a row now on qc they didnt add any effects or cabs or drives or amp models. You have to keep in mind the head of the company and designer, is a bass player and from what ive heard, when people in person have tried to tell him what qc needs he cant understand what they mean. Theres probably a few more things that I just can't think of right now. I tried fm9 i loved so much about it except for how difficult it is to use and tweak on the fly, but im not a fan of scribble strips and prefer the gig view type screen in the QC or helix LT. I tried using a kemper but it too seems difficult to figure out, but also ive opened up for a lot of touring acts out if Nashville that use kemper and to me they just dont sound real now days, not that they have gotten worse but that the rest of the modeling world has caught up and surpassed them.
wow yeah that's a lot! Thanks for your thoughts @@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Is the smaller footprint and larger screen really worth everything you claim is wrong with it? If I was that dis-satisfied with a product I'd definitely move on from it as quickly as possible.
Yay. A Quad Cortex variant that is even more limited than the already severely limited flagship unit.
I mean, it's good enough for Megadeth. Are you Dave?
F neural and the quad cortex.
Promises never fulfilled,so I sold it.
Hope they go under/
Helix is great but wouldn’t buy tech that is that old.
The hate for Line6 is outrageous on this channel.
I've been a Line6 player for along time....Flextone, DL4, M9, M13, HX stomp etc. At this point the effects are holding up but the amp sounds are lagging behind everyone else. But thats just my opinion... it can sound good and I still use my HX stomp often because its a great multi effects. I'm particularly disappointed that the newer L6 Helix models sound better than the stuff they launched with, amp wise, but they won't admit that and rework the launch stuff. For example the deluxe and twin models are no where near the later Silverface bassman models.
I'd bet their next platform fixes everything. The most recent models are the best they have every produced.
@@ToneJunkieTV I really don’t think the amps falling behind everyone else holds up to any scrutiny when you blind test and stop judging with your eyes, particularly with the new cabs and new amp models. I agree that the older amp models are lacking but there are so many new ones that are incredible so why even use them? I’m primarily a Fractal user but the Helix stuff is still somehow incredibly underrated and if you can’t get a good sound out of it (not saying you specifically) it says more about you as a player and I do think that’s a massive part of it that no one is brave enough to talk about.
@@david71991 I’m just talking about amp models and my opinion and you just turned it into “you must not be a good player”. When conversations like this take that turn I’m out. Have a good one. 👍
@@ToneJunkieTV well I did specifically say not you as I wasn’t talking about you but people that think it sounds “bad” or whatever other term they want to use I can almost guarantee it’s user error. Just the way it is. I don’t see anything wrong with that line of thinking.
@@david71991I must have misread it because I see that now. I was on the toilet. 😬 My bad.
I've owned a cortex and it's not better than a Kemper 😂😂..
Exactly.
Hx stomp isn’t easy to beat. For all it offers, it’s still up there competing even with all these newer units.
Lolllll
Not enough updates or caught up with the rest on your existing flagship? Fix that fact by releasing another product.
no thanks
Can't stand when you guys are in a conversation, and the video just cuts off. What's the deal with that...
They are just clips from a longer podcast. Link to the full episode should be in the description. We usually discuss a couple topics in a full episode, but make shorter videos on each subject too,
I don't know if a mini, but I fully expect a non-capturing QC. MAYBE it goes to 6 buttons. Also the whiners about plugin support can shut up... such a stupid thing to cry about.
It's actually totally reasonable to be pissed about it, because that was, beside the capturing tech, the main selling point of the Quad Cortex to begin with.
People wanted to have the fidelity of the NDSP plugins in a portable device, because at that time it became apparent that the plugin market became more capable than what modellers had to offer on average.
I do not own a Quad Cortex, but I have been toying with buying one on day 1 back in 2019 or so, actually based very much on the thought of having Fortin Nameless and NTS integrated into the QC.
Very glad I did not bite onto the bait.
@@PippPriss you bought a device as is. Sure you can be frustrated at how long it took, but to cry about new devices coming out is stupid. In between the launch and now was also a global pandemic. As someone who works in software I can tell you that it wrecked a lot of teams productivity.
@@StupidGuitarthat's all well and fine but it's equally stupid and a bad look for the company to continually troll it's user base by saying things like "soon" in a meme format. We're well past the point of soon. I'm not one of the users who was anticipating plugin support as excitedly but I can completely understand how they may have felt mislead timewise. The way neural made it sound on launch was that all the features they were advertising would be there within a few months to a year. This isn't soon anymore. They need to stop saying that.
@@joshshultz1250 like I said in another comment. So many fragile guitar players. They’re not trolling you. This is hype marketing. Get over yourselves!
What a waste of time and of people on social media.
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