The Hidden Cost of Buying a Modeler (Helix, Axe-FX, Kemper, HX Stomp, Quad Cortex, etc)
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- In this video we talk about all the things you don't really think about when buying a digital guitar modeling/profiling/capturing device. While these are amazing devices that do almost everything, you still have to be able to:
- Listen to your guitar (through headphones, monitors, FRFR's, etc)
- Connect it to a mixer for live use
- Record your guitar
- Power it on a pedalboard
Here are links to some of the products we've mentioned in this video:
FRFR (Full Range Frequency Response) speakers:
HeadRush FRFR www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Line 6 Powercab 212 (stereo) www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Line 6 Powercab 121 www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Interfaces:
UA Apollo Twin Duo www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
UA Volt 2 www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Headphones:
AKG K240: amzn.to/43SG5XF
Beyerdynamic DT770: www.zzounds.com/item--BEYDT77... (also the 880's are a good option)
Sennheiser HD650: amzn.to/3s1ckXl
Brian's headphones - Ollo Audio S4X: olloaudio.com/products/s4x-re...
Headphone amp and mini mixer
Rolls Mini stereo mixer www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Mackie Mix5 compact mixer www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
DI and Line Isolators
Walrus Audio Canvas www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Pinstripe DISO pinstripepedals.com/product/d...
Goodwood Longline goodwoodaudio.com/products/lo...
Table of contents:
00:00 - Welcome
00:12 - There are hidden factors and costs involved in using a digital amp solution
02:20 - You need to build a system around your modeler
02:58 - The feature sets of these units can vary quite a bit
03:37 - Consider how you will monitor (listen to) your modeling device
05:17 - FRFR Speakers
07:21 - Headphones
08:32 - Not all headphones are created equal
11:14 - When using headphones, consider your signal path
13:46 - Consider how you are going to use a unit live - how will you plug it in
17:00 - line isolators
19:37 - At home it sounds different than at church (live)
20:47 - The biggest reason your unit sounds bad at church
23:00 - Some suggestions to help with tone and your sound at church
31:55 - Conclusion
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CURRENT GEAR - stuff we use in (and to make) videos
Cameras:
Sony FX3: amzn.to/3TEa80p
Sony a74: amzn.to/3fWONBd
Acoustic Guitars:
McPherson Acoustics (Camrielle, Carbon Fiber Sable): mcphersonguitars.com
Martin D-35 // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Martin 000-28 // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Taylor 414ce // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
LR Baggs Anthem Pickup (in both) // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Capos:
G7th Performance Capos:
Amp modelers we make presets for:
Line 6 Helix // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Line 6 HX Stomp // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Kemper // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
Fractal Axe-FX III, FM3, FM9 // www.fractalaudio.com
Quad Cortex: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
Recording Interface:
Universal Audio Apollo // www.zzounds.com/a--3980936/it...
In-Ear Monitors:
Alclair: alclair.com/
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Why do I enjoy this format better than previous discussions on this channel? You guys sound great and I love the conversation.
This is such a valuable conversation. I have spent years as the Front of House engineer and now am back onstage playing EG and love talking to the Tech team and livestream folk. They get onboard pretty quick when I say "I want to learn how to make their job easier". In my FOH days I had the opportunity to counsel guitarists through the grief they felt when they listened back to the livestream mix. You nailed it on the head when you brought up getting to know the effect of the acoustic nature of your rehearsal space and perceived volume.
As both a stage musician and a sound guy, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with the idea of showing up early! Our typical rehearsal starts at 7 and we have musicians that roll in either right at 7 (or often 5-10 minutes AFTER, during first song), then set up, then complain that their sound isn't what they want! Everyone, PLEASE show up early, make sure your gear is working and that the sound crew has a chance to get your piece of the puzzle sounding good before the rehearsal starts.
Man, this is so true. I added a pricey Line 6 FRFR speaker to my Helix last year which has helped tremendously. But hey, on the other side, I now save hours of doom scrolling for the next great pedal and/or amp that will finally make me a good player :) I sold my moderate pedal rig years ago, bought a Helix and put money in the bank.
One thing to think about when trying to figure out why the guitar sound is better at home than it is at church. When you're at home, you have the entire sonic space to occupy with no competition. The natural instinct is to add bass and treble and scoop the mids so that the sound feels bigger. But when you play that sound in a full band, now you are competing with drums, bass, keyboards, singers, other guitars, etc. Your sound is trying to occupy the same sonic space that those other instruments are. For your guitar to cut through, you need to cut the bass and some of the treble and add mid-range frequencies. Great mixes usually have each instrument occupying a narrow frequency range so they don't compete with the other instruments as much.
This is so true!
I posted about this in other threads and videos of WT.
First ring I ask the sound engineer is to please remove any type of EQ from my channel. Flat zero everything! Usually they comply especially if you are nice and humble. 😊❤ but, that is massively important because your tone will definitely suffer if they don't!
I love what you guys said about being nice to the FOH guys. They definitely have lots of folks screaming at them from stage, so asking them ahead of time and explaining that you have already twekwd the tone and applied all sorts of EQ on your digital pedalboard. They know that adding additional EQ will totally ruin stuff. I also add a lot of mids to my tone. You have to have 2 types of presets. One for home use and one for Live use. That's how I do it. I tweak it at home and get it as close to how i like it, the re-tweak it live if possible then save it it as Live in the preset name. Believe me, it works! Add mids at home, reduce Bass and Treble, and you will sound amazing once the band starts playing!
Frfr vs Studio Monitors comparison for Line 6 Helix would be cool!
The biggest thing a DI gives you is protection against phantom power frying your modeller. I have 2 1/4" to XLR cables, which I could use to run stereo from my Stomp's balanced outs, straight into the desk, but I avoid this. Esp with a digital desk it's really easy to accidentally end up with phantom power (48V) send on your channel if the PA guy isnt totally on it. This will probably junk your modeller 😬 A DI will stop the 48V getting to you.
OMG this is so true.
I chose the Valeton GP-200 just because it was the only ‘affordable’ multi effects unit that had xlr outs so I could plug the cable from the board straight in. While it has worked I’m not overly impressed with the delays and reverbs in the Valeton. I’m now starting to build a small board around a DSM & Humboldt Simplifier mk2 (also chosen for the xlrs) with a few select pedals to get a ‘better’ sound. While this may or may not work it is not to be confused with a cheaper option!
I’ve also just invested in a wireless system for the guitar so I can walk off the stage and in front of the PA in the practice and get a better understanding of how my guitar sounds to the congregation rather than how it sounds in my iems. It also allows me to chat to the well meaning sound engineer so they get an idea of what I’m after!
Great subjects and discussion. I thoroughly enjoyed this and learn a few things. Thanks so much for posting.
My budget worship team guitarist set up living in an apparment:
Boss GX100 modeler with fx: $600
Bluetooth adapter for the GX100: $60
AKG studio headphones: $75
I stream music via Bluetooth from my phone to the pedal. Then watch Worship Tutorials to see fingers play riffs. Play along and listen over the headphones. The Boss pedal also has a looper so I can practice soloing over the chord progression.Bonus, my patches sound pretty close at Church to the headphones by the Sovereignty of Almighty God. Amen.
Been doing this since the 70s (I’m old). You guys should show examples of what you’re talking about for the younger guys. E.G. What is XLR, DI, etc.
For my digital amps and modelers I use a small Mackie board using my IEM’s. This also gives Brian the flexibility to have an iPod for jam tracks.
I use my Kemper Stage at church. Output to FOH via xlr. Works great. For home rehearsal of Sunday tunes I run the Stage to my good old PC via usb and listen to Planning Center through my in ears, Shure SE-215s, which are plugged into the back of the Kemper. Easy peazy. Again, works great!
Great video! Thanks for making this; it has helped me a lot at church when I realized that my tone sounded really different than in my headphones. Would you guys consider making a series on using budget guitars for P&W? The main brand I like to see y'all do is Eastcoast and Sire. Thank you!!
If you perform live, maintaining a back-up rig is a must, which adds costs. Even the best modelers can fail. I lived through this leading-up to last weekend's services when my modeler had to be shipped-out for warranty replacement days before. Good thing I could resurrect my old board with my favorite analog overdrives and an old HX Stomp XL. As much as I wished to have sold old equipment to fund the new modeler, I'm glad I didn't!
What's cool this days, is that one can have backup rig in form of $50 cheap audio interface, and a free DAW + laptop with some free amp sims and free plugin effects. Takes time to set up such project, but if it is needed sparingly, it's probably fine. I want to do something similar one day.
I was about to sell my analog pedals after I moved to a FAS Ax-8 for live worship. So glad I didn't. Although my AX-8 is solid as Tank! I started to put together a hybrid Analo/Digital pedalboard using an iPad/iPhone.
So all my analog drives go into a cheap USB interface Beringher UCA 202 to the iPad/iPhone which has all my delays, Pitch effects, Reverbs using either a mix of apps like AUM, Overloud-THU, Bias Effects 2, Eventide, Nembrini, etc! So this Setup is extremely flexible! I'm considering getting a better interface but little by little. It sounds amazing though now as is.
I’ve used an old Behringer mixer for years to practice and monitor my Sunday tones. It’s got a L and R aux for my phone (with lightning adaptor) to monitor the tracks app. My Fm9 is just plugged stereo into the mixer via XLR. It works great!
This is the reason I bought a Boss Katana 100 MKII instead of HX Stomp or similar. I prefer the time based effects of Line 6 but the Katana has it all. So happy with all the routing options.
I use a Boss Katana 50 to practice at home with my Helix. I plug into the (power amp in) Jack behind the amp and that disables all the effects of the amp and turns the Katana into a powered speaker.
Thanks for the tip! That's a great idea!!
Very good topic. I’d love to see a series of “this is what I use for… and why”
I've had good luck with 8in studio monitors with Helix. Helps me since I'm usually working on the patches and rehearsing using my desktop.
HEY Can y’all do a video on how to treat your room and any trick you might have learned over the years?
For me, the powered mixer with quality headphones is the best route--but that’s what I’ve done for years (yes, since POD 2.0). I have everything flat and ask the sound guy at church to put everything flat. I also deal with two different locations, so each room sound is different. I’ve just learned that one location is brighter and the other is more “boomy” so I use EQ settings the best I can. I’ll have different saved presets just due to the different locations. I don’t think I can ever fully replicate my tone at home at church, but over time I feel I have gotten close.
Am at the point where I need to get a modeler or pedal. This video is helpful. God bless
This is awesome! I have an Iridium and love it but had issues with it at Church. I did a lot of research on sound and DI boxes and ordered a Walrus Audio Canvas. It solved all my issues lol.
Amp modelers have a low output already and DI boxes lower the impedance to the board, so they had to crank me on the board which created bad hum and feedback. A Line Isolator runs your signal hot without lowering the impedance so they were able to lower my output on the board, hence no more hum and feedback.
Exactly! And that’s not known and so people don’t know what they don’t know. Prime example right here! Totally get that. Was the same for me. Thanks for sharing!
Why walurus? Is expesive
My buddy in HS had a 1980s Laney 300w amp head, that thing sounded awesome, no one wants to hear me that clearly including myself. When I hear people talking about how to make a guitar sound "bright" I'm reminded how weird it is discribing sounds, abstract simile referencing some other thing I'm often lost on what qualities are being being referenced.
Great topic and discussion.
Planning for the future and “good” quality is key… there’s often a good value price point, and then price really increases. Good combo: UA Volt, IEM 215s (which double as at home hearing and at church), and Canvas DI if the venue doesn’t have any
If you get a Boss Katana, you can plug into the "power amp in" on the back and it turns into a FRFR speaker bypassing the preamp. That way you have a relatively inexpensive amp (and an incredibly versatile one at that), another fx unit if you want it, and a FRFR. I think the power amp in only comes on the mkII 100w 2x12 and the mkII artist (don't quote me, do your research). I know for sure that the Boss Katana Artist MKII has the power amp in because I've used mine with the Helix Floors at church as a FRFR. There are a ton of videos on UA-cam that explain this if you're interested.
The 50W MKII also has a power amp in. I use it with my pedalboard which has a UAFX Dream 65. It gives you the best of both worlds (modelling amp and powered speaker). It certainly does an excellent job as an FRFR which I validate by the fact that when I plug direct to FOH at my church, there is very little tweaking that is needed. It is a very affordable option as well.
powercab+, studio monitors, powered monitors similar to headrush or the like. All good options.
seems like every service, I start from ground zero. I tweak my setup at home based on last service, then dial it in at the run-thru. Key thing is to know your equipment, your sound engineer, band mates & the room. Also I make an iPhone (side-mid mic) recording on the stage for a reality check & listen till the next service. Volume was a very good point. Makes a big difference. Back to practice. 🙂
Thank you so much guys !!
You guys are really helpful. I like you
Can we see a tutorial video on gain staging for the helix and how to set it for live setting? We use a Wing PA but it seems as though it’s not reflecting the same guitar tone it should be. This is after turning off compression eq and all that.
Great video! Question for Bradford! I know it’s a strange question considering we are in a guitar video but what is that shirt that you are wearing? It looks great! We have similar body types and I’ve been wanting a shirt like that
Why I haven't upgraded from my mustang floor. Doesn't cost me a cent. Has xlr outs and sounds good. How I listen to it is through a clean amp. As far as on stage vs at home well, you have to be aware of the differences of the sound of the room/pa and however you listen to it at home and adjust accordingly
Oh Lord! I so agree and relate to channel setup on the FOH board. Huge pain point. Make a video with your church live mix engineer guys on this we can share.. 🙏
Since I have bought my Helix years ago. I went in thinking that it will be my preamps (I use the amps with cabs off) into a power into real cabs. I am still in love with 412 cabs. I use 90% of the time two 412 cabs running a mono wet/dry setup. I like one cab being G12K-85'S and one cab with two G12K-85'S in a X patter with two V30's. To me this is my Valhalla in tones. I can sound huge and fantastic with low volume, late night playing and when cranked up, sounds amazing. Just love it. FYI, the old G12K-85'S are so neutral sounding that every amp model of the Helix sounds fantastic..
hey Bradford, Check out the DBX DI4. It’s a 4 Channel DI with a stereo headphone mixer built in that runs off a pedal power supply
I went down the rabbit hole on this, tried and returned different stuff, finally just took my stomp into the Guitar Center to test it on everything, and I found the perfect output solution for modelers. QSC K12.2... You're welcome
Speaking of DIs.....I run a 60W SuperSonic that is in an isocab in the rack room. From the room to my board, which is on the opposite side of the stage, is about 70-100 feet. I'm using a Radial for guitar; I think its the SG-1. I don't think I lose a lot of signal overall. As far as mix, it can be frustrating to spend the time to flesh more intricate parts only to have them buried in the mix. Might as well just play straight chords under the piano and vocals. When you have rotating FOH folks, it can be challenging.
Sennheiser makes some good neutral studio headphones. I use the HD560s ($150) and they are excellent.
Guys, gold info as usual. Min 21:00 is on the money.
Im wondering what output setting to use out the HX Stomp. Gauging to understand which to use at our church. Line or Instrument level output to FOH via DI?
Great content and conversation Definitely some hidden costs But man is it well worth it. I love my fractal fm9. Fucking amazing. Nothing touches it besides the actually axe effects 3. When the axe effects 4 comes out I’m getting it
I run my Helix floor from quarter inch into the DI box…so should I just be mixing the DI box and strapping the XLR? I go to a big church but that don’t like to run stereo at all…mostly cause they lazy.
I'm using some cheap Edifiers at home and I want to upgrade them to get a better reference of my Helix. Any suggestions? maybe JBL LSR 305? I tend to use some Shure SRH440 headphones.
If you have an acoustic amp you can run your modeler through that! Also works as a great bass amp! Essentially it’s a mini PA..
I’m interested in this concept. Have you tested it? If so, what have you used?
Yes yes yes. I use an old 2 channel crate acoustic amp. I can use it with the crate full range speaker or bypass to a greenback cab. I just toggle the soeaker sim in my Headrush. Love it.
Great video!
Is an Acoustic Amp a FRFR/Mini PA system? I plugged my HX stomp into the effects return of my Fender Acoustasonic Jr. and it does work, maybe not the best quality sound
One solution that seems to be missing from the conversation (I skipped around a bit so I may have missed it) is playing these units through an amp and using the 4 cable method. A lot of people buying these already have amps, so it's no extra cost. I do this with my JCM 2000 and bypass the preamp on it and use various preamps on my helix.
yall are so helpful oh ma goodness
The DSM Humboldt Electronics Simplifier is my all in one solution for my pedalboard. It has a headphone out for use at home and a stereo XLR and 1/4 “ jack outs. It also fixed the fact that our church doesn’t allow amps and it lets me skip a DI.
Solution: Buy some AKG's with a 1/4 in adapter, or what I have and recommend is studio headphones, like my DT770 pro's. They come with an adapter to use 1/4in phones output on my POD GO wireless. I already had those + 2 PA speakers so this wasn't an issue. Wow I sound stupid for a 19 year old lol. I do think for at home performing, buy some studio headphones with 1/4 inch cord.
I just bought a Kemper but now I’m realizing this massive thing is best suited for being an amp replacement. What’s your thoughts on running pedals before the Kemper to make at as a replacement for an amp.
The Sony mdr 7506 are pretty good for monitoring as well
I have two studio headphones an open back Beyerdynamic DT990 PRO 250 and close back Audio Technica ATH-M50
With my Helix LT I use Sony Studio headphones or my Presonus studio monitor speakers.
Since helix I've bought - Studio monitors, inears, open back headphones, PA system, & COUNTLESS patches and IRs
Can you run pedals into a Kemper and just use the Kemper for an amp replacement on a quiet stage situation
Hi guys. I've watched alot of your tutorials. Could u guys do All I need is you by hillsongs
Anyone know what light bar thing is behind them?
Biggest cost to a Helix, Kemper, FM9 et al is that you gotta by 2 (1 for backup).
For a church live setting, all you need are 2 channels: 1) JHS Morning Glory into a Vertex SSS into a Cabzeus (2X12 open back Greenbacks). 2) JHS 9 knob Angry Charlie into Cabzeus 4X12 closes back Vin 30s.
I use Keeley Caverns, JHS Panther Cub V2 & Walrus Audio Slö.
Mesa Boogie Clear Links rock.
Wavs Custom molded IEMs (Cabzeus headphone jack).
Make sure your IEMs are reference caliber.
The best thing a church can do is buy a cheaper system and pay for a professional to mediate unwanted frequencies with dampening products and then eq the speakers.
We have a Mooer250 and have been trying to find a way of running into the mixer and through the PAs…not getting a good sound. Wondering if you guys have any tips.
They really provided tons of tips on this video.
One I highly recommend is to definitely create 2 separate presets. One called Studio and one called Live.
If you play live, immediately remove Bass around 100 hz I think and highs, treble. Increase mids to like 7. This will get you in the ballpark. You will definitely hear the difference playing live!
I appreciate the topic since I am considering getting a Tonex. I want to use headphones on it so thanks for covering that topic. I would like to also have something that can play UA-cam go to the tonex and be able to listen to the guitar and UA-cam lessons through the headphones. Do you know if that is possible?
Yeah - Slow Gear just released a product called the pedalboard headphone amp. It’s perfect for what you want to do.
I'm probably going to go with something like a Bose S1 pro or maybe EV 30m.
Thanks!
"What happens when I get there and it doesn't sound anything [like at home]?"
I feel so seen.
In order to get the best sound out of your headphones - use an amp modelling unit that has a send return so you can run your wet effects "after" the amp - Boss IR200...
FRFR is full range flat response, right?
Yes, correct.
Hey Brian & Brad ...we call you guys as (B2) B Square ..cause of 2 B s 🙂..well quick thank you note for the useful content...u guys put in a ton of work...
I am from India moved to Sydney ..and I have always been playing yamaha pacifica 611/612 & 311 H with a combo of Boss Gt 100 & ..there are very less content on these products & I believe there is less community as well.
Can you please check out on these .
Regards
Reeves
I don't see the big deal with Helix style units. What is different from all the other Boss, Zoom, and Digitech multi-effects units that have been out for decades? I am impressed with IR loader type units! They make your dry signal into a mixing board sound like you recorded it from an amp.
Just an FYI if being nice/ buying your sound man stuff doesn’t work, just be an absolute DIVA, it works every time.
No no no 😂😂😂
I run my amp at church. What is the easiest way to get good tone at home! I’m a dad of three! I can’t crank my 410 deville lol. I just want great at home silent hook up and able to listen to tracks
Easiest? Two Notes Captor or UA Ox Box. Cheapest? 😅😅😅
@hermonoetim mesa can clone
or a simple solution run your modeler into an amp and set all the tone controls on the amp at 12 oclock
I don’t even own an amp anymore. I use line 6 and other analog amp sims. I have a solid pa at home, and a 4x12 cab. Amps are a complete rip off. You can get an extremely high quality pa way cheaper, which is going to sound better anyway, since you’ll be used to hearing a mics/direct sound.
When will we get some covers from elevations newest album?
We got a few ready to go 👍🏼
So plot twist what if your rig sounds great at church but just so so at home?
Running Dual Tonex though a Diso+ > Scarlet interface > out through two Rokit 7 KRKs. I’m thinking it could be the DAW?
DAW wouldn’t be the issue. Rokits are notorious for adding low-end and your room not being treated could account for what you’re hearing. It’s not a cheap thing to do so we are saying to take notes of the differences you hear and account for that. I’d apply an EQ to the channels you are running thru your DAW to get things sounding as you like for practice. I wouldn’t adjust your ToneX units to keep things consistent between home and church.
Love the format - appreciate you brothers!!
I don’t think I agree with you guys on your assessment of why FRFR speakers exist. It seems to me that they are just a re-branding of PA speakers to sell them to the modeler crowd.
I mean, in theory, a good PA speakers should be full range and flat response.
Because of the increasing size of the market for the monitoring device for guitar modelers, companies like Friedman and Headrush have entered the fray, but it is pretty clear to me that their speakers are doing the exact same thing as a PA speaker. People like Line 6 have made Products that are an evolution of the idea, such as the power cab, which can function as a very loud PA speaker style monitoring system, but it can also model guitar speakers.
So true. But remember they gave to do this as it brings food to the table to many employees. You are just aware, so you just buy a cheap Beringher PA full range speaker with built in amp and rock on happily praising God!❤
@@musicman4christjesus absolutely. I am not saying that they are wrong to do what they are doing. I just think it is good for us to be have all the info about what we are buying.
All I want is a small wedge shaped FRFR speaker for about $200 that I can use as a personal monitor. Is that so much to ask?!
Haha I don’t know if it’s too much to ask but the Headrush FRFR is close to that price.
You will find FRFRs for that price, though they won't be perfect. I had Alto TX-something and ended up selling it (sounded meh) for Headrush 108, but if you need just monitoring and the sound is from PA only, you'll be okay. Just ignore all the marketing-bubble that arose from modellers, search for a regular small PA speaker.
The Roland JC amps are phenomenal for pedals and modeling units. The JC40 is a bargain.
I run my Boss IR-200 and it works good. The AC120 modeler sounds the best Lol!
Kemper Poweramp! 🥇
So I purchased an inexpensive low latency Bluetooth transmitter, plug that into headphone jack of my helix, then pair my low latency Bluetooth headphones, and it works perfectly! You just have to find headphones and transmitter with compatible AptX low latency version and you should be good to go.
Interesting, how much latency do you have? I've found that anything above 10 ms is a no-go for me.
Honestly with everything in life, when something is serviceable, it’s good enough. HX Stomp gets me 90% there. No matter how good, the old folks are still gonna complain lol
First!
Monoprice has wonderful headphones less than $50.
Praise the lord
Yea bought a Helix and then realized I need decent speakers to not blow out my ears lol
Who in this world buys a pedal like a acs1 or tonex and runs it alone? Headphone jack shouldn't be an issue.
One of the reasons churches lack people with knowledge who are willing to help is that they tend to treat us poorly.
Reaper is not free. $60 for the license, cheaper than most guitar pedals out there. Unless you like being a dishonest person and keep hitting the “still evaluating” button forever.
Nobody buys a guitar effect/modeler/pedal whatever if they don't know how to listen to it - this discussion is too far removed from reality and makes no sense at all.
The only thing that is really relevant is the question of how do I get my home studio sound on stage.
You do need an apartment and pay rent lol jk