Doctor Who The Star Beast Review of David Tennant's 60th Anniversary Special. Imagine being Russel T Davies, bringing back David Tennant and THIS is the quality of the episode you create. There are good scenes, but you can't enjoy them because you're always waiting for Russel T Davies to punch you in the face with the message again. This episode was so full of it, even the BBC's own review of it had to call it out. Now Davies attitude to creation has changed as I showcase towards the end of the video, but this time he's funded by Disney who are no doubt full steam ahead with his ideas! Combine the two and what you get is an episode of quick fire trash. The good scenes can't save the episode, the characters don't hold the show together because they were never written as people. They were written as a another element of the preaching. But what did you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
I actually think if you look round the back of RTD you'll find a Disney exec with their hand up his arse. He knows the lore, Davros with working legs breaks the Daleks, so why do it? Secondly, the aside about Donna's 'offspring' being a shite actor when we've watched 50 mins of 'Yasmin' showing the acting range of a spoon. I find that really odd, its almost a cry for help. It felt like a decent, mid season romp that got jumped from behind and violently buggered by the Disney Message Mafia. I won't be watching the rest of these and may God have mercy on poor Disp's soul if he has to sit through more of this drivel.
Not once, in all of the years I have been watching this show, did I see Davros as "sitting in a wheelchair". One of the greatest characters and villains in sci-fi history.
No kidding. I remember seeing Genesis of the Daleks as a kid and Davros was clearly in some kind of enhanced survival unit, made obvious by the fact that it was the same design as the lower half of a Dalek's survival unit. Wait, does that mean Daleks are all wheelchair users? Damn it, we can't make the stairs joke anymore, it's ableist against Daleks!
Clearly Davros was a proto dalek, he was a narcissist who thought destroying the universe would be good cos “think of the power”. He then of course made the Daley’s in his own image.
"Something a male presenting time lord would never understand" I'm going to stop you right there. That one line tells me everything I need to know about this.
Ugh, Donna Doctor-splaining to a thousands of years old time lord just because she "presents as a woman so she now somehow knows more than you" was the definitive nail in the coffin for this show. RIP Dr Who.
@@robm8809 Yes! That is a perfect adjective. Thank you. It just makes me think “Come on! Real women want equality. Not patronizing. This is patronizing.”
To be fair, Donna gets all of his knowledge anyways.. she sees his memories and his experiences, getting his intelligence rather than instantly becoming smarter then him through her own effort, but yeah, even back when this first started in tennants run, the whole Timelord + Human = Better then a regular Timelord is just silly. What really gets added there? Creativity? No way we have more creativity then the time lords, they have so many experiences to get inspiration from afterall
But progressive leftists seem unable to comprehend that message.
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Hell his invention (while horrific and evil) stands the test of time, can go toe to wheel/hover mechanism with the Time Lords and survive no matter that is thrown at them. How many people can achieve that level of impact on the entire Universe?
Some of the best villains are heroes in their own way. Davros realised the eventual genetic monsters the Kaleds would become and made them travel machines in order to out-survive the Thals. In the end, he saved his people.
I saw them saying "Oh there's a LONG history of disabled characters being evil." And my first thought was...... Since when? I can't think of a single one. The first things that come to MY mind when I think of crippled characters, ARE ALL HEROES!
Its completely insane.. I mean most of the ones I know of good not evil... obviously Prof X springs to mind straight away... the only one I can slightly think of was Blofeld in the very old bond films.. not exactly revelat today anyway
This is heart-breaking. I always remember marvelling at the doctor as a little girl and that no matter how hopeless the situation in the episode felt, the doctor would always find a way. The way that Donna speaks to him is truly upsetting to me because it doesn't even reflect the female fans perspectives. I really don't want them to degrade the doctor because of his gender. There's so much more to him that that and it does everyone a great disservice to boil everything down to that. Plus, I feel like it ignores the fact that he knows more than then because he's a well-travelled alien rather than just because he's a man.
That used to be the point of the companions right? He wanted to show the companion the universe and expand the understanding and wonderment of it. Now the companion is explaining why it really isn’t that great and he doesn’t know any better.
Always be prepared. You never know when the switch of evil will be flipped!!!!! Or that could be her parking break.
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Dont let on that you know! She might have weapon systems built into her chair and if you know you will become a threat to her rise to power and be exterminated.
I use a wheelchair, and one time I legit made a Supervillain Bucket List for myself, lol. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is "Put sharks in my swimming pool" (a la some Bond villains).
Anyone who tried to watch it when he was the show runner previously should have known exactly what to expect. Since that time, his messaging has only got worse. He's never been any good at SF.
Well, do you know how they typically try to make "strong empowered women" characters seem like good characters by surrounding them with horrible incompetent men, maybe this is them trying to make people beg for more of the Jodie Whittaker Dr. They are using the same tactic, make everything you want worse than what they want to give you so that all that is left for you is to accept what they want to give you.
I did. He already stated in his original run he had an agenda. Clearly now being begged to come back he was going to demand full creative control and any checks and balances he previously had went out the window.
Remember the scene in the 50th special where Clara is crying when she is sad that she is about to see the 11th destroy Gallifrey, the point about the Doctor choosing his name comes up. That is a powerful scene, where the Doctor is nudged in the right direction by the compassion of a companion. Compare that to the ‘we know it all and you are just a dumb man’ scene from the 60th special. Moffat wrote for everyone, RTD writes for himself.
Hallmark of a midwit. Slightly above average, has been led to believe they're WELL above average (because all their teachers said so!), and thus thinks that anything that pops into their head is the height of brilliance and deserves to be said aloud (and applauded!). And I don't mean the character; I mean the writers. Science fiction has always suffered from writers who think they're smarter and more educated than they really are, but these recent years, it seems to be at least more blatant.
Yeah, it has a few fumbles like that, but I’d still give the episodes a chance; if you pirate it like me, the second special, Wild Blue Yonder is pretty damn great, if you exclude the straightest doctor apparently being gay, but it’s like a single line and the episode is just Donna and the Doctor. Really fun
Like, I love Doctor Who and I’m glad it’s doing better than with Jodie, but saying that just because it’s doing better means it’s protected from criticism? 💀
DAVROS is not in a Wheelchair….. He is in a Life supporting Machine to help Him live for 1000s of years . His eyes have failed and he is Deteriorating slowly over time.
@@M-S_4321 Dude, he canonically created the original Daleks on Skaro as seen in _Genesis of the Daleks_ back in 1975. He's not a character made by RTD. I can understand if people don't exactly care for him after what RTD just did, but if you're going to complain about lore, at least get it right.
@@M-S_4321 Sorry man, it was just hard to tell from your previous comment whether you knew that or not. I didn't mean to sound so aggressive about it, but after all Chinballs and now RTD have done I'm feeling pretty dang defensive about the lore.
Like Chris Gore of _Film Threat_ said to him: "You might think you're just one guy talking to his computer. But people in the industry know who you are; they think about what you're going to say. Some of them are scared of you."
I’m glad that Hollywood is starting to realize that we don’t want The Message. I hope that many shows fail, so they are forced to took back on all of the franchises they have killed.
The Doctor being spoken down to by a 16 year old is legitimately one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen, this is the Lonely God, a being so ancient that he has watched the universe be born and die and be born again, he has witnessed tragedies beyond comprehension, and has knowledge that was so great and terrible it overwhelmed a literal star, and this 16 year old kid is trying to explain to him that he knows nothing because he's a man, you are an ant talking down to a literal mountain, spend 3 billion years alone living and dying while punching through a wall or diamond and then tell me just how much you know what it means to let someone go!
The truly scary part is not that this swill exists, but that there are people out there who actually wrote, directed and produced that swill thinking people would like it.
"I can't avoid seeing an evil character in a wheelchair, and imagine everyone in a wheelchair as evil" This is prejudice, plain, simple, black and white
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It is no different to the fools who look at Orcs and go "BLACK PEOPLE!"
The Doctor continuously sacrifices his life, his love, his everything for humans, but he gets lectured about letting go from a stupid woman and her weird child
I didn't know about the wheelchair drama but based on that is interesting that Rose identifies with the Meep only for all to discover later that the thing alone from another planet/different it is a monster. A muddled message on par with Barbie talking about Patriarchy only for it to show Ken not getting a job because he isn't qualified- even with his dangly bits. I love when The Message shoots itself in the foot.
@@mryellow6918 well, only if the alien language lacks gendered pronouns. If they have a female pronoun and a male pronoun, then it would be possible. Anyway, I'm done putting more thought into this than the writers did, and none of it makes sense to begin with.
I can honestly assure Davies that I've watched Dr Who for many years, initially from the Pertwee era and then catching up on the first two later. Never once had I ever, as a child, teenager or adult, associated Davros' evil nature, or that of any of the other villians, with disability. Davies is a fool.
That statement has the same energy as Wizards coming out and saying orcs aren't black. Never had that assumption Wizards why did you? If I had to compare orcs to a real world analog it would have been a characture of the barbarians faced by Rome who were mostly white or at least Eurasian.
@@gruby970 Davies is a fool. I remember when Torchwood was going strong and he killed of Tosh and Owen. The fans were very upset but gave the next season a chance. Then he killed off Ianto and the backlash was huge. His response was that it was his show and he could do whatever he wanted with it. The show never recovered. The next season never had the ratings and the show died. You would think that kind of message would sink in to a creator to know that it may be his show but without the fans the show doesn't exist but he clearly didn't learn it. He is the biggest fool there is.
Does anyone else also think the sentence 'a male-presenting Time Lord would never understand' kind of contradicts itself? By calling him male _presenting_ , they're emphasising the fact he's not actually inherently male but only presenting as one at the moment, but for some reason he still 'wouldn't understand'. Also it's apparently okay to be sexist towards men. It's astounding to me they put that sentence in the special. It's completely unnecessary! It made me instantly dislike this Rose. Putting down others to make yourself look good is not a good look.
Doctor Who died years ago, anyone who has been paying attention to the past 5 years of media knows that this was a DESPERATE, LAST-MINUTE attempt to win back some of the audience before the end. Like Arriving at Waterloo 5 minutes before the battle, trying to turn the battle in favor of Napoleon.
A guy and his girl friend get into a fight about nothing, within 10 minutes the guy will want to make up and get pizza, the girl will then rant about how 2 years ago she wanted to get breadsticks with her pizza but he didn’t want to spend the money on it and now pizza is ruined forever. My husband have actually had this fight I’m ashamed to admit.
A sad day when not even dragging David Tennant back can revitalise interest in this show. I remember watching through his tenure in the 2000's and enjoying just about every second. Seeing it come to this is both heart breaking and tiresome.
the entire series the past years with Jodie and wokeness and stupidity and then this episode are heart breaking and tiresome. Sadly like many series and shows, sometimes you can't recover from going down the drain and it's best to just let them flush.
describing davros as a wheelchair user is just weird, he sits in a modified dalek casing, which is basically a mini tank, which he uses to protect himself and harm others, and somehow we're not supposed to see that as wrong?
Well from what I've heard the dalek casing was based off of Davros' little transportation vehicle (I refuse to call it a wheelchair), and if a disability is the same thing as "entire lower body being ripped off in a freak accident" then Im confused
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@@oobtty less freak accident and more nuclear weapon to the lab he was in, hence no eyes as they melted and his arm which he used to shield his face.
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Also last I checked wheelchair users dont rely on their wheelchair to keep them alive. That would be a life support system.
Did nobody notice that Russel T Davis created Lumic the creator of the cybermen? A DISABLED MAN IN A WHEEL CHAIR! He doesn't seem to have a problem with that does he? Only characters created by other writers.
As a disabled person born with a number of life-threatening conditions and limited mobility, what offends me most is able bodied people telling me what is problematic with regards to disabled people. Naturally, I can only speak for myself and am not some self-appointed spokesman for the disabled, but I loved the Davros character. It never occurred to me that it would be viewed as problematic. Maybe there are people who are offended by it, but I, alongside a number of similarly disabled people with whom I have spoken, are more offended by able bodied people treating me as though I should be surrounded by bubblewrap and handled with kid gloves. As far as I am concerned, Davros should be left as he was, half Dalek, half Kaled, with a motorised life-support machine, and not tinkered with just because some able bodied person sees it as “problematic”.
But that's the modus operandi of these people: Be offended on behalf of people they don't know and have never met and who, in all likelihood, aren't offended in the slightest by whatever the activists claim they should be. Of course, these clowns have to find ever more ridiculous things to be offended about because if they stop being offended on behalf of others they'll have to get an actual job which requires actual work.
Yes! Thank you! That’s exactly what I’m referring to. It’s condescending and demeaning being the subject of someone else’s vicarious offence. THAT is something that DOES offend me, not a fictitious sci-fi villain, who just happens to have a wheelchair-like life support machine. I would be very interested to see just how many people, if any, have actually complained to the BBC about Davros’s “wheelchair bound” nefarious ways.
@@martindixon54 A big part of "The message" is to convince [insert other group here] that they need YOU to speak for them, so that you can score easy points by stepping up for them and making yourself look like such a wonderful person, while making that group dependent on you because you have reach and they dont actually ever get the spotlight to speak for themselves. This has been obvious for years. If [insert group here] was treated as equal, they would be expected to speak for themselves, access the job market on their own merit, and not need affirmative action or preachy media to "help" them. That in itself implies that [insert group here] is seen as lesser than the people doing the preaching for them.
Can you imagine handing over a weaponized wheelchair to an already "angry that I have to be in a wheelchair" person? I was that person at 15; and if my wheelchair had had weapons, I would have used them with Davros-like glee.
Xavier is in a wheelchair. Daredevil is blind. Deadpool (a good guy?) has cancer. Peter Parker is a mutated freak. Rogue is excluded from receiving and giving affection. Good guys generally accept their shortcomings and try to live with them or make the best of it. Bad guys do whatever they can to heal themselves or let their hatred take revenge on the world.
Okay, so i cant be the only one who found Rose's entire reason that she was non binary being because of the meta crisis ridiculously offensive and doing the exact opposite of what intended. If you want to put out a message that your identity is what matters over your physical self, don't then create a physical reason for making her that way. Also the letting go of the Time lord dna scene made me laugh so hard. 1. Apparently Time Lords have the ability to do that, but the male presenting ones cant let their power go, that ability sure would have come in handy during the Family if Blood arc. 2. The Doctor is now a man, doesn't mean he's "forget", how to do something he could do as a woman 3. The whole message that women can let go of power but men can't is just laughable 4. Rose is non- binary as well, so why is she jumping on a woman bandwagon whenever convenient to her 5. This undoes the entire mind wiping thing from Journeys end, because apparently the Doctor never needed to do this, Donna could just "let go". They couldn't have done a worse job of writing this, this was all i looked forward to in life since September, and i just feel cheated
uhm, one thing you're forgetting. Donna was at her last moments there, and couldnt think clearly, and the doctor erased her memories before she was able to do it, the doctor basically did it FOR her, but if she remembered she would die. well, stop looking forward to it like that then, i thought the episode was god damn amazing, and funny.
Donna Noble is a totally uneducated girl from a household with a single mom who just scraped by. She was not smart as many other companions, but she was tough and had kind of down to earth street smarts. That made you forget her sometimes nerve wrecking dominant streak. Now it seems she became Phoebe Waller bridge, only that Tennant is not old Harrison Ford. What a üity. One beloved IP after the other ruined. I think Disneys culture war influence is feelt throughout all of this.
4:03 I was an ambulatory wheelchair user prior to my first neurosurgery and this cracked me up. Not only can I easily picture the mechanics of this, but I can absolutely see myself either shooting backwards or falling over (or both). Rocky ground nearly upended me; a rocket shooting out of my wheelchair would have ended me. 😂
Disparu doesn't understand how rockets work. They don't cause recoil because the propellant gets out at the rear. Now standing behind something that fires a rocket or if it's multi-stage and initially propelled by explosives (which isn't really done) that's another story.
@@kaltaron1284 I must have misheard him, because I was thinking of recoil… like when you shoot a big gun. I guess the image I was cracking myself up with in my head got in the way of my actually hearing his exact words.
@@kaltaron1284you saw the chair, right? Where was the opening for the rocket burners? They treated a rocket like a bullet, so there would be recoil. You can't blame him for their poor design choices
@@justing7490 True to a point. Namely until the rocket leaves the tube which happens very quickly so there isn't much gas pressure. Esp. for a fire cracker like those shown. It would be a bit more serious for real missiles which is why those have exausts. With explosive propellants like in the usual cartriges, you get all the force immidiately instead so there's far more recoil.
I am A Queer Woman and I didn't really understand what was going on? Like they tried to do their normal scifi bullshit with gender stuff, and since I understand all of the words they use, it makes it clear how nonsensical it is because they don't use them in a context that could possibly mean anything.
I'd say making a force-field with a sonic screwdriver isn't necessarily a problem, since it was always basically magic. The problem is that you can't just introduce a function like that so late in a series when there are probably a billion instances where he should have used it in the past and just didn't. Changes like this retroactively make characters stupid.
I haven't cared about Doctor who in years but my sister was a huge Doctor who fan and she was so excited for the old writers and actors coming back. What a slap in the face
I was mildly interested. 10 was my favorite doctor, and after the trashfire that was 13 I figured they were diving hard into 'let us win you back' I was wrong.
The show died when Peter Capaldi was leaving. It was starting to "turn" towards the end of his series run. Then the BBC heard the word "Woke" and...Well. They took a great show and polished it into the dullest of turds. Hiring writers that are woke, weak, appologists will never create entertaining, wholesome or historical programs. Just think of the classics that wouldnt be made today. Only fools, Red Dwarf, The Young ones, Bottom, Are you being served....NOT ONE of these shows would even be considered now. and our television is worse for it.
People getting mad over this episode makes me laugh because those cringe Moments have always been in the show always people are just now noticing and it’s hilarious
Watched this with a friend who is not totally woke but certainly more than I am and we were both in disbelief, both of us laughing and also stunned how bad this episode was. The show should just be taken out of its misery at the point.
Before, when the show was charming, the campiness was endearing. It was obviously a low-budget project made with a lot of heart. But now it's a low budget project with a lot of preaching, like a church play.
Watched it with my gf who is def more understanding with the times than me and just watched all of dr who last year with me. We were both stunned like what the hell is happening. Very disappointing for the both of us.
What seems to have been forgotten by a lot of people that were excited about Russell T. Davies coming back is that some of the best episodes from his first time as show runner were actually written by other people including Steven Moffat. Begs the question if Moffat was the one who really needed to be brought back but not sure if Moffat would have played ball with BBC and disney.
Moffat was what people liked. I never realized who Russel T Davis was but Stephan Moffat somehow could turn water into wine with his writing. The best arcs, the best one off episodes, hell his other series are also brilliant. From what I’ve heard about him personally he probably would have played ball at least a little, maybe not as much as the BBC would want though.
The moff would play ball, he already started near the end of his run, especially with his pretty bad characterization of the first doctor, painting him as sexist racist etc when he never was characterized as those things because around the time the moff wrote it Hartnell was being called a sexist lmao
This episode was like watching home movies at a wake. No matter how desperately we wish they were still alive, we can't ignore the corpse in the Box! Now, I just hope I live long enough to enjoy the home videos again.
As an African-American guy in his 60s I remember watching Tom Baker on our public television here in New Jersey when I was a child. I didn’t understand some of the jokes or phrases. But I generally got the idea that the doctor was a guy whose superpower was that he was smart! the cheesy special effects and crazy costumes were not that impressive even when I was a little boy. The doctor was generally progressive. The politics of the day never was a part of Doctor Who. The show was a strange mix of Science Fiction and fantasy, and I was overjoyed when it came back with the ninth doctor. It became so popular that by the time we got to the Matt Smith era a decent amount of Americans were watching the show. I stuck around for Peter Capaldi, because I grew up with the doctor being a older British gentleman. And the doctors always been a goofball. After a few seasons, Peter became the doctor. You never knew what he was gonna say, and he was genuinely funny. I’m not a sexist, or some Internet troll in the Manosphere so I didn’t care if the doctor was going to regenerate into a woman. I thought Jodi was good at her job, but she was given such crap to work with. The Rosa Parks episode was absolutely awful. The costumes in the settings did not look like the south, and it was rewriting history. Rosa Parks was a political activist, who planned with local civil rights organizations, an act of civil disobedience when she refused to give up her seat. She was not the first woman to do so. Another activist had done the same thing several years earlier unsuccessfully. The scene where Jodi’s companions, one black and one Indian go to a restaurant, and sit down at a table is absolutely outrageous. They would have been beaten up arrested, and possibly sexually assaulted not only by the townsfolk, but also by the police. We are talking 1970s South African apartheid era hatred. Personally, I’m a Democrat. I like the idea that everybody can overcome their differences and that there is no hierarchy in race or nationality. It’s the Star Trek political point of view. I don’t have any hatred against the LBGTQ community, but I don’t understand why Donna couldn’t just have a daughter or a son. Why did it Hass to be a trans daughter? There’s something strange going on, and this show proves that it’s international. We’re not talking about religion or politics. We’re talking about the basic idea of men and women. Doctor Who is supposed to be a show for young people.
Funny thing is, there's an episode of British history they could have chosen rather than butcher one from the US. Most people have heard of Rosa Parks but few of the Bristol bus boycott of 1963. It's worth a search. It's something close to my family history as I'm from Bristol, was born in 62 and my dad had just started working on the buses when it started.
doctor who for young people?, considering the horror voilence and insanely dark themes this show aint for young people, its more for mature audience or of all ages
I think very few people took issue with gender-swapping the doctor because they hate women, as opposed to the far more obvious reason that he has been consistently portrayed as male for over half a century. Crying sexism and misogyny has been the go-to excuse for progressive activists whenever their ideology-laden reboots and sequels and retcons get rejected by fans, and it is tiresome whenever people still give credence to this lame narrative. If the agenda behind all these race and gender-swaps, all this diversity and representation, didn't also come with a load of baggage as it relates to what types of stories can be told, which demographics are and aren't allowed to be villains, etc. I daresay people would be more open to a female doctor. As it stands, it means that the IP has to be put into an ideological straightjacket, so people are justifiably prejudiced against it, because we've seen this play out half a dozen times with various IPs. TL;DR: The people that treat diversity and representation on screen as a political aim cannot complain when people recognise that this political push for diversity always comes with additional ideological strings attached.
I hate to say this man, but your chosen political ideology is the one that laid the groundwork for this nonsense and continues to not only push this age-inappropriate gender and sex issues on kids, but is fighting to hide it from parents.
@@rangopistacho6928 yes doctor who was a family show, young people included. Believe it or not young people could watch doctor whos timid dark themes quite easily lol.
How to fix Dr. Who: 1. Make Timeless children non-canon, then destroy all copies. 2. Remove the woke and messaging, and go back to simply entertaining. 3. Apologize to the fans for trying to kill the show, and ask to be forgiven, and promise to not do this again. That should do it.
@SteveyTheEx-Eevee And yet, it really wasn't unisex at all. No man in their right mind with ANY self-respect would cosplay as Jodie Whittaker. Personally I don't have a problem with them featuring the return of a rarely-used feature of regeneration not seen since the first one back in 1966. The Doctor's clothes changed in that one, too.
@@filthycasual8187 Did they change in-universe, though? In Power of the Daleks and in Castrovalva when they gave Peter shoes instead of Tom's boots I would have put that down to costuming errors rather than the clothes changing as part of the story. The 2nd Doctor even makes a point of saying things don't fit him since he has a new body, so you would have thought his regeneration would have done a better job giving him clothes that fit if this was the case!
@@filthycasual8187 Not only would no man cosplay as Jodie, but even though the other doctors' outfits are rather "masculine," women would look perfectly fine in them. I've seen women cosplay as 10 suit and all and they always look great. Maybe they should stick with masculine clothing cause it _is_ actually unisex lol
Notice how Davies says "There's a problem with Davros...." In fact it's his OWN interpretation, his OWN way of thinking, that he means. It's how he CHOSE to see the character. But no, he claims a "problem" existing objectively outside of his head and independent of him. He doesn't have the self awareness - or maybe the courage? - to say "I personally didn't like old Davros". He shirks responsibility. And yet this Davies is supposedly an adult with a job?
The thing that upset me the most is that Donna, whom the Doctor kept talking about as 'my best friend' (and theirs was indeed a great friendship back in season 4 and later, when Ten's been talking about her in other episodes), just kept putting and dragging him down and denigrating him - and that is most certainly not a thing a good friend would do. And to do so in such an obnoxious and smug way, oh, the sheer hubris! Well, I knew after the words about not retconning the Timeless child crap that that ship's not gonna be towed into dock for repairs, but I didn't think they'd manage to sink it into Mariana trench with crappily undoing one of my all-time favourite bittersweet stories of New-Who, the story of Doctor-Donna friendship. I'm not even sad about DW anymore, I guess I'm just… finally completely numb about it.
The sensitivity readers on RTD's team have never had a healthy friendship with another human being between the lot of them. Seeing one depicted on screen would be traumatic for them.
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can have fond memories of the original run of Donna. She was an insufferable bint of a character long before they decided to deify her for having XX chromosomes. The combination of being really dumb and really loud and obnoxious truly made Donna the on-screen equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. I feel bad for Tennant because his doctor was a charming character, but Donna? You can't ruin fond memories of a character if there never were any to begin with.
did you never watch the first run with her? she was a fan darling, and I always hated her for being a harpy of a woman, constantly talking down to a literal god.
@@AliRadicali right? literally the only heart touching moments she had were in her final episode, and even then it was more to do with wilfred then it was with her. Old will and the doctor had more chemistry then a 1000 Dr. Donna's
What amazed me about the lady being a wheelchair user us that it implies that she is a paraplegic who at one point crosses her legs when she is talking to the Doctor.
Stop giving Tennant a pass on all of this. He read the script, signed on, and cashed the check. He's tarnished his own legacy by participating in this farcical tragedy.
@@wtech758 Years ago, an actor would stand up and refuse to do garbage like this. They now bend the knee to bad studios and directors and script writers. "Entertainment" is swirling the drain.
I feel bad for those who actually had hope for the New Dr. Who? They should have known what was coming. Russek T Davies clearly drank the Kool-aid, and this was never going to be anything better than a trash fire extrodinare.
Three years ago I got my mom into Doctor Who and started with David Tennant. Now she’s a huge fan of that version of The Doctor and was willing to give this new who a try. Once I told her what was in this new episode she was so sad so we went on a binge of The David Tennant series for the whole day to make her feel better lol
I didn't know it was coming. I've seen RTD's episodes before, and some of them are my absolute favourite of all time (like Midnight). There was no woke propaganda in any of those as I remember them (and if there were, at least they where subtle and didn't affect the plot), but this... what even is this sht? It's not Doctor Who, I'll tell you this much
RTD wrote some of my favorite episodes ever in 2005 and 2006, he once had the ability to write entertainment first and foremost. Whatever he's writing now isn't the same if no one's editing his work they need to!
Absolutely. By the way did you just misgender her? :D She identifies as the definite article just like the meep or whateverthefk that was called. Careful, she'll show up somewhere in your life and hold you accountable for that hahahahahahahahahhahahaa
even if some people just saw Davros as a man in a wheelchair.. that guy owned it! The dude is not someone you would ever call weak or even impaired, one of the doctor's greatest adversaries, a genius in his own right, he has a lot of back story and to simplify him as merely a evil man in a wheelchair is criminal. Davros didn't need to be changed!!!!
They also have faces, he's correct. I like everyone else associates faces with evil cz one bad guy has a face. They must know how insane they sound or they are chronically addicted to some substances
Please only do a full episode review if you think it will not drive you mad. We don’t know what will push you over the edge and you’ve been such a heroic star dealing with Robyn Hood and stuff. Thank you for your sense of humor! 🙏😎
It's just occurred to me, Russell made that speech about people in wheelchairs being evil and then wrote a character in a wheelchair which is full of weaponry; maybe he's just trying to set a precedent to fear people in wheelchairs so that when the audience finally gets sick enough of him they won't break his legs (in a video game) and confine him to one.
The spite the writers are projecting through the screen is astonishing, they are like children: "If I can't have the show my way, I'll just ruin it for everyone. Haha."
Like Luke Skywalker, they brought back a beloved hero to destroy him, to ruin his memory for all future generations as if it's deserved. "Oh, you liked him, did you? Well, look at him now. Not so great after all, was he?" Childish jealousy because he was better than anything they can come up with. Because their new heroes are pitiful weak jokes compared to the old ones.
Donna's husband is hen-pecked, her granddad is locked away in an old folks home, and she gaslit her underage son into believing he's a girl. Donna is the misandrist villain for this, right?
Bringing back David Tennant, just to shit on him was an enormous slap in the face. And you can tell he probably wanted to throw the script he was given into the garbage and set it on fire the moment he saw it.
13 started with 10.8 millions views and ended with 5.3 million. If the specials started with 6.3 million they are still 4 million short of her best, which is a tragic death knell. Comically sad but hailed as a victory by them…
"Something a male presenting time lord would never understand" - ok then. WHY didn't the last Doctor, the female presenting one, come back and fix Donna then? Would she not have immediately understood and rushed back to save her best friend Donna?
Did Russel T. Davies forget that the Doctor WAS already present once at the creation of the Daleks? And why they were called Daleks? A reverse of the Kaleds, the race they originated from?
I thought Tenant was going to be some sort of mid transformation, midlife crisis thing... not an official "new" Doctor with and old face. So now we have a Doctor whose only purpose of existing is to try and bring back the old audience through nostalgia. Ironically because of all this I can't even go back to re-watching old episodes knowing what becomes of one of my favorite shows... RTD took my nostalgia and waterboarded over a bamboo tree while it was slowly penetrated and died.
It’s a shame. Such a beloved franchise. But a statement such as this is a common phase today. The only positives is watching the companies responsible suffer for it and watching creators like Disparu who speak honestly about the lack of quality profit from it.
The bad guys are usually more badass and much cooler than the actual hero. So they're basically telling us that a disabled person can't play a badass character!?
It's crazy that a show that lasted for decades and retained a loyal fanbase while adding more over the years was knackered in less than a single decade - I highly doubt they'll be getting syndication deals for these episodes in 30 years time from countries across the world like the previous ones did. Next time I come across a person in a wheelchair I'm gonna check to see if they have rockets in it or they're evil, I'll probably have to tell them that RTD told me that's what they're associated with in case they think it's weird that I'm looking for explosives.
Being fair it started at the end of 2005, romancing the Doctor which had only ever been tried distantly and lightly and never ever to really work in the 1960s, once.
Isn't it funny, evil Davros didn;t have any weapons in his chair, and yet the UNIT thing had multiple offensive weapons built right into her's, but she's apparently 'good'.
@@zybch I'm still trying to get past a UNIT retirement care home for soldiers blasted with PTSD fighting mind controllers, aliens, future technologies and everything else taking in an ordinary ex-soldier when couldn't Kate LethbICan'tEvenSayIt could've asked the Doctor to take him somewhere beautiful in the stars he used to watch. Also didn't Davies make a point of dismantling UNIT but now he's all behind bringing it back? You could put DEFENSIVE weaponry or even repulsors into a wheelchair, but let's make it a completely unarmoured badly manoeuvred unpropelled light arms platform with no protection for the disabled occupant. Anybody criticising this show and the authors purely on the basis of The Message is fatally missing the fact that THE WRITERS ARE JUST INCOMPETENT IDIOTS ANYWAY.
The BBC has also shit on it's world wide distributors/buyers of the last 5+ decades. Here in Australia our equivalent ABC (free to air - commercial free) always got first dibs on Dr Who and later it was shared with cable. But this version is not. The BBC basically told the ABC to eff off in favour of Disney+. I only found that out a few days ago so I wasn't watching this on principle even though I wanted to see Dr/Donna. That was enough. I won't watch Disney and this only confirmed I made the right decision.
@@tkps Australian right here. I remember when this was announced, some moron started saying how great this was because it would ensure a wider audience for new Doctor Who and I had to point out we lost it from our free-to-air national broadcaster thanks to the thieving disgusting stupidity of the BBC and Disney. It's a shame the ABC relies on the stupid social media standards instead of hosting their own feedback. I was checking the website hoping to write them a letter of congratulations on not having to broadcast this absolute garbage.
In this episode, these are Russell T. Davies' contributions to minority groups: - he tells wheelchair users that they can't create scary robots. Only a fully able person (Davros) can build scary robots. - on top of all the difficulties that trans people face, they will now be resented for belittling and sneering at the much loved Doctor. - If long-standing Doctor Who fans are a minority group, Mr. Davies has contributed them a reason to expand their horizons and watch something else instead.
Well, wokeness was announced from the start and Disney is involved. I'm honestly not surprised that it was bad. But atvleast it felt like I was watching Doctor Who unlike the Chibnall era. Still bad though.
3:30 This made me laugh, because I once asked someone in a wheel chair, who liked to bow hunt, why he did not use a rifle, and he basically said the same thing. =D
I’m not even a Who fan, and I’m appalled at how this was supposed to be the commemoration episode of the 60th anniversary. Absolutely disgusting. At least, we can’t blame Disney for this franchise failing. BBC has done a good job of doing that on their own.
Day of the doctors was and will always be the best anniversary episode ever! This I watched just to see my favourite era of Doctor Who to be walked on like it was nothing
I sort of like the idea that the Doctor was aware that his 12th incarnation would be his last, because after that, he wouldn't be the Doctor anymore, despite technically still persisting.
@@troffle That's OK. The War Doctor is his ninth regeneration anyway; he's just not numbered because he was between the FOX made-for-TV movie and NuWho. (And only invented because Eccleston had such a shit time with the showrunners he wasn't willing to come back even for a crossover special.)
Every time I see a wheelchair I piss myself now, I'm expecting for them to attack me with the weapons embedded into the chair. They now scare the shit outta me!
If they wanted Donna to be a memberberry, did they remember that Donna's brain would burn and/or explode (or something along those lines) if she ever remembered the Doctor, TARDIS or any time spent with them, for even one moment? Did she get some space aspirin to prevent that major headache or did the XX plot armor prove once again to be indestructible? (added) After seeing a full review, I now know it was indeed the strong plot armor of the XX uterus.
Funny how in a show when time actually isn't a hindrance they couldn't have kept that important plot point in tact. Yes to many it is a cop out to have the Doctor being forced to go back in time to pick up Donna prior to when they needed to part ways, yet it actually could have been interesting. He has the same face as the version she knows, yet isn't the same Doctor. Add in that he knows how things end for them while she doesn't which could have added another layer.
oh it was fine, being around him didnt make her remember, in fact her daughter remembered more memories than she did, he had to give her a winter soldier key code to unlock the brain bomb which turned out has been a dud for 15 years which the genius that is the doctor didnt work out until after the fact.
It’s sad that this one of the biggest television series after 6 decades managed to kill itself with hope and damaged itself worse than any other franchise
It didn't kill itself. This sick society we're in now killed it. It gave us ideas on what a world should be like and WE IGNORED IT, went the wrong way and decided to destroy anything that didn't fit that world.
That's an ironic statement because a lot of people claim that there is no difference between men and women and that gender is all a choice. But apparently, it's not. Women have different brains from men. ...or presenting oneself as a man actually changes how the brain works...which makes no sense.
Russel T Davies fought tooth and nail for the priviledge of running this show straight down to oblivion. Like, "If anyone is going to kill th Doctor, that has got to be me!"
@deadpooldan9862 the Doctor is as much alive as the MCU and Star Wars at this point. Sure, there are people making "content" using their respective IPs, but we no longer care.
@deadpooldan9862 True fans will always care, and will always watch, even if just to criticize later. Thing is, fans are a minority. Normies are what franchise need to cater to in order to thrive. And normies just don't give a fuck anymore.
The worst part of this show was the trans person is supposed to be 15. That is way too young to be doing that. The twist of this show is that Russell T Davis is an evil preditor to teenagers
Be careful what you ask for. Right now, we're in the happy position of knowing the summary and how very PC this slime at BBC is. We're at the Finish line! Do you REALLY want to slog through an episode of trash? Coming Soon: Meta Review, where I review, well, "reviews".
As soon as they announced David Tennant’s return, I was expecting damage control. I have to admit, they surprised me by shitting all over the series instead of having a return to good form. What a twist! Tear it apart with a full episode reviews please. I enjoy watching reviewers like you instead of these propagandist sludge factories’ copy and pasted social media fan-fiction.
David Tennant, my doctor, regenerating into Smith was a giant moment, and his “death” left me with genuine melancholy. Seeing Tennant living through this torture is unbearable. I wouldn’t have minded if it was just a crap episode I could have ignored, but they did it dancing on the corpse of a legend. What cruelty.
@@redreaper3065 Thats a shame ……still time for a red pill? If I was an actor in this environment, I wouldn’t be a hero, I’d stick to the message, easiest decision you could make, but by the law of averages some must be doing it through gritted teeth?
@@ThisUnfoldingCrisis eh if he wanted to not do it, he could always be silent. But on top of the shirt he's also worn rainbow pins with "You're safe with me" on them. He has a nonbinary child according to Google. So yeah..far too late
@@redreaper3065 Yeah, but he's got 78 kids, so by law of averages? Shame, I didn't know any of that...fair enough on the PR tripe put out and gleefully gobbled up by BBC-Guardian, but on the parenting stuff, it's bloody hard, even when it's easy, so won't judge anybody on how they approach that part of their life.... "You're safe with me" on the other hand...
@@redreaper3065 Meh. Most kids are "queer" now. It's a fad and not very surprising for his child. That's nice that he supports his child's identity, even though they'll likely grow out of it anyway. Child or not, someone else's choices or identity shouldn't reflect David imo
There are a few channels on YT that are gushing praise all over this. I can only think that they watched something completely different to me in that case.... And as for the Furby with a squeaky voice, my 8 year old daughter said it was just stupid.
I was wanting some new Disparu content earlier, but I landed on rewatching some of the older velma videos. Then, partway through one of those videos, I got this notification! Cheer on the great content and amazing timing, lol.
Doctor Who The Star Beast Review of David Tennant's 60th Anniversary Special. Imagine being Russel T Davies, bringing back David Tennant and THIS is the quality of the episode you create. There are good scenes, but you can't enjoy them because you're always waiting for Russel T Davies to punch you in the face with the message again. This episode was so full of it, even the BBC's own review of it had to call it out. Now Davies attitude to creation has changed as I showcase towards the end of the video, but this time he's funded by Disney who are no doubt full steam ahead with his ideas! Combine the two and what you get is an episode of quick fire trash. The good scenes can't save the episode, the characters don't hold the show together because they were never written as people. They were written as a another element of the preaching. But what did you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
Well I got my answer, your not finishing the wheel of time viziers so I’m out, unsubscribing
It's really hard to care about any of these ip anymore. They aren't making these shows and films for the fans.
My favourite dr who as well. RIP Doctor Who.
On a positive note, he’ll yeah, full episode review.
I actually think if you look round the back of RTD you'll find a Disney exec with their hand up his arse. He knows the lore, Davros with working legs breaks the Daleks, so why do it? Secondly, the aside about Donna's 'offspring' being a shite actor when we've watched 50 mins of 'Yasmin' showing the acting range of a spoon. I find that really odd, its almost a cry for help. It felt like a decent, mid season romp that got jumped from behind and violently buggered by the Disney Message Mafia.
I won't be watching the rest of these and may God have mercy on poor Disp's soul if he has to sit through more of this drivel.
@@RetroProg how hard is it to just write daughter omg its not like she's hurting u
Not once, in all of the years I have been watching this show, did I see Davros as "sitting in a wheelchair". One of the greatest characters and villains in sci-fi history.
No kidding. I remember seeing Genesis of the Daleks as a kid and Davros was clearly in some kind of enhanced survival unit, made obvious by the fact that it was the same design as the lower half of a Dalek's survival unit.
Wait, does that mean Daleks are all wheelchair users? Damn it, we can't make the stairs joke anymore, it's ableist against Daleks!
@@GeneralPotatoSalad, reference the 12th Doctor’s use of Davros’s chair, and laugh!
Clearly Davros was a proto dalek, he was a narcissist who thought destroying the universe would be good cos “think of the power”. He then of course made the Daley’s in his own image.
The idea of equating Davros with a cripple who has to use a wheelchair is such a *massive reach* that's it's *farcical!*
Wait, what? This is a thing? Have I missed something totally crazy 🤨
"Something a male presenting time lord would never understand"
I'm going to stop you right there. That one line tells me everything I need to know about this.
Yeah, that is so freaking insulting.
What a stupid thing to say to someone who saved the world and universe many times over, lost so many friends or watched them die.
That really pissed me off too 😠
In the words of the eleventh doctor "I have lost things YOU will never understand"
Excuse me, i need to go binge watch the beat scenes from the series, to remind myself that I don’t need to care about this garbage.
Ugh, Donna Doctor-splaining to a thousands of years old time lord just because she "presents as a woman so she now somehow knows more than you" was the definitive nail in the coffin for this show. RIP Dr Who.
Yeah, that was particularly disgusting.
@@robm8809 Yes! That is a perfect adjective. Thank you. It just makes me think “Come on! Real women want equality. Not patronizing. This is patronizing.”
To be fair, Donna gets all of his knowledge anyways.. she sees his memories and his experiences, getting his intelligence rather than instantly becoming smarter then him through her own effort, but yeah, even back when this first started in tennants run, the whole Timelord + Human = Better then a regular Timelord is just silly. What really gets added there? Creativity? No way we have more creativity then the time lords, they have so many experiences to get inspiration from afterall
Davros was a genius who didn’t let his disability stop him. That’s a good message to give someone who has had the bad end of the stick.
Yes! Exactly! It also showed young disabled children not to give up. RTD is a coward.
But progressive leftists seem unable to comprehend that message.
Hell his invention (while horrific and evil) stands the test of time, can go toe to wheel/hover mechanism with the Time Lords and survive no matter that is thrown at them.
How many people can achieve that level of impact on the entire Universe?
Some of the best villains are heroes in their own way. Davros realised the eventual genetic monsters the Kaleds would become and made them travel machines in order to out-survive the Thals. In the end, he saved his people.
So are they going to give all the Daleks legs, uniforms and plungers?
Davies saying he associates the disabled with evil is a true mask-off moment.
I want him to supply the historical evidence that wheelchair-bound people have been associated with evil.
When I saw this being posted on twitter I was like who the fuck thinks this
Yea
I saw them saying "Oh there's a LONG history of disabled characters being evil."
And my first thought was...... Since when? I can't think of a single one. The first things that come to MY mind when I think of crippled characters, ARE ALL HEROES!
Its completely insane.. I mean most of the ones I know of good not evil... obviously Prof X springs to mind straight away... the only one I can slightly think of was Blofeld in the very old bond films.. not exactly revelat today anyway
This is heart-breaking. I always remember marvelling at the doctor as a little girl and that no matter how hopeless the situation in the episode felt, the doctor would always find a way. The way that Donna speaks to him is truly upsetting to me because it doesn't even reflect the female fans perspectives. I really don't want them to degrade the doctor because of his gender. There's so much more to him that that and it does everyone a great disservice to boil everything down to that. Plus, I feel like it ignores the fact that he knows more than then because he's a well-travelled alien rather than just because he's a man.
It’s actually disgusting, Russell t should be arrested for crimes against humanity 😂
That used to be the point of the companions right? He wanted to show the companion the universe and expand the understanding and wonderment of it. Now the companion is explaining why it really isn’t that great and he doesn’t know any better.
A very good friend of mine is in a wheelchair but I always had my doubts, maybe she was a super-villain in hiding. Thank you Dr Who for reassuring me!
Next time you see her, make sure she doesn't have any hidden guns or missiles in it.
I always knew giving them ramps was asking for trouble
Always be prepared. You never know when the switch of evil will be flipped!!!!! Or that could be her parking break.
Dont let on that you know!
She might have weapon systems built into her chair and if you know you will become a threat to her rise to power and be exterminated.
I use a wheelchair, and one time I legit made a Supervillain Bucket List for myself, lol. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is "Put sharks in my swimming pool" (a la some Bond villains).
I knew Davies was not going to "save" Doctor Who, but I didnt think he would make it like ten times worse than it already was.
I did
Anyone who tried to watch it when he was the show runner previously should have known exactly what to expect. Since that time, his messaging has only got worse. He's never been any good at SF.
Well, do you know how they typically try to make "strong empowered women" characters seem like good characters by surrounding them with horrible incompetent men, maybe this is them trying to make people beg for more of the Jodie Whittaker Dr. They are using the same tactic, make everything you want worse than what they want to give you so that all that is left for you is to accept what they want to give you.
I did. He already stated in his original run he had an agenda. Clearly now being begged to come back he was going to demand full creative control and any checks and balances he previously had went out the window.
Oh this was no where as bad as CC stuff. This just wasn't great.
Remember the scene in the 50th special where Clara is crying when she is sad that she is about to see the 11th destroy Gallifrey, the point about the Doctor choosing his name comes up. That is a powerful scene, where the Doctor is nudged in the right direction by the compassion of a companion.
Compare that to the ‘we know it all and you are just a dumb man’ scene from the 60th special.
Moffat wrote for everyone, RTD writes for himself.
So wait. Does that mean, if a abled person is evil, then he associates all abled people with evil?
Only if they are straight, white, and male.
Do try to keep up.
@@khatdubell Oh, that was a good one!
That would logically follow, yes.
you should ...
The devil had legs. Think about it.
"That ship didn't crash. It parked." Such _riveting_ dialogue. Is that going to be up there with "They fly now"?
They fly now?
They're not flying, they're parked!
Hallmark of a midwit. Slightly above average, has been led to believe they're WELL above average (because all their teachers said so!), and thus thinks that anything that pops into their head is the height of brilliance and deserves to be said aloud (and applauded!).
And I don't mean the character; I mean the writers. Science fiction has always suffered from writers who think they're smarter and more educated than they really are, but these recent years, it seems to be at least more blatant.
My god. Those cars out there in between the lines!
They didn't crash.......they PARKED!
That's absolutely a line that would fit in to any Doctor Who episode, old and present.
"Something that a male-presenting Time Lord will never understand." Welp, that's all I needed to hear to know the show is beyond saving.
Yeah, it has a few fumbles like that, but I’d still give the episodes a chance; if you pirate it like me, the second special, Wild Blue Yonder is pretty damn great, if you exclude the straightest doctor apparently being gay, but it’s like a single line and the episode is just Donna and the Doctor. Really fun
It's doing better than ever so cry I guess
@@gay4sswhovian Nice, from your comment you seem like a very understanding and mature person, and not bias whatsoever
Like, I love Doctor Who and I’m glad it’s doing better than with Jodie, but saying that just because it’s doing better means it’s protected from criticism? 💀
DAVROS is not in a Wheelchair….. He is in a Life supporting Machine to help Him live for 1000s of years . His eyes have failed and he is Deteriorating slowly over time.
Davros the progenitor of RTDs Dumleks
@@M-S_4321 Dude, he canonically created the original Daleks on Skaro as seen in _Genesis of the Daleks_ back in 1975. He's not a character made by RTD. I can understand if people don't exactly care for him after what RTD just did, but if you're going to complain about lore, at least get it right.
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper
I know, but to quote an RTD response: Tough
@@M-S_4321 Sorry man, it was just hard to tell from your previous comment whether you knew that or not. I didn't mean to sound so aggressive about it, but after all Chinballs and now RTD have done I'm feeling pretty dang defensive about the lore.
details...details...lgbtq have no time for details
Drinker should be proud. He has officially named a cultural agenda and even the main stream media have adopted it.
Like Chris Gore of _Film Threat_ said to him: "You might think you're just one guy talking to his computer. But people in the industry know who you are; they think about what you're going to say. Some of them are scared of you."
Drinker has ascended to godhood at this point
There is great power in Names.
I’m glad that Hollywood is starting to realize that we don’t want The Message. I hope that many shows fail, so they are forced to took back on all of the franchises they have killed.
@@bumfluffaddlepate1680what how dare you point out the destruction of modern Western culture. Bigot!!
The Doctor being spoken down to by a 16 year old is legitimately one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen, this is the Lonely God, a being so ancient that he has watched the universe be born and die and be born again, he has witnessed tragedies beyond comprehension, and has knowledge that was so great and terrible it overwhelmed a literal star, and this 16 year old kid is trying to explain to him that he knows nothing because he's a man, you are an ant talking down to a literal mountain, spend 3 billion years alone living and dying while punching through a wall or diamond and then tell me just how much you know what it means to let someone go!
The truly scary part is not that this swill exists, but that there are people out there who actually wrote, directed and produced that swill thinking people would like it.
Not to worry, after this failure, they can always go back to pornography films.
The woke mind virus is real.
Pretty sure the writers don't care if people like it or not.
No the scariest part is that some people ACTUALLY LIKE THIS and thought it was good😳😮🤯🤪
@@BIGDaddioJohnB cause it was
"I can't avoid seeing an evil character in a wheelchair, and imagine everyone in a wheelchair as evil"
This is prejudice, plain, simple, black and white
It is no different to the fools who look at Orcs and go "BLACK PEOPLE!"
Next you are going to say that black people are totally able to get IDs to vote. You are so racist!
Yo bro wtf you cant say black anymore thats racist lol.
I was in a line at the shops today, someone farted, I now assume anyone who uses shops is a foul pig… makes sense.
What about Mini-Me on Austin Powers - International Man of Mystery & the Minions in Minions? Weren’t these all “Little People” who are “Evil”?
The Doctor continuously sacrifices his life, his love, his everything for humans, but he gets lectured about letting go from a stupid woman and her weird child
I didn't know about the wheelchair drama but based on that is interesting that Rose identifies with the Meep only for all to discover later that the thing alone from another planet/different it is a monster. A muddled message on par with Barbie talking about Patriarchy only for it to show Ken not getting a job because he isn't qualified- even with his dangly bits.
I love when The Message shoots itself in the foot.
can we all just think for a second that the tardis auto translates, so theres 0 way to mispronoun
@@mryellow6918 That's hilarious.
@@mryellow6918 well, only if the alien language lacks gendered pronouns. If they have a female pronoun and a male pronoun, then it would be possible. Anyway, I'm done putting more thought into this than the writers did, and none of it makes sense to begin with.
Ken was the hero of BARBIE!!
@@unasperanza9803 Hear Hear!
I can honestly assure Davies that I've watched Dr Who for many years, initially from the Pertwee era and then catching up on the first two later. Never once had I ever, as a child, teenager or adult, associated Davros' evil nature, or that of any of the other villians, with disability. Davies is a fool.
That statement has the same energy as Wizards coming out and saying orcs aren't black. Never had that assumption Wizards why did you? If I had to compare orcs to a real world analog it would have been a characture of the barbarians faced by Rome who were mostly white or at least Eurasian.
Davies is not a fool. Davies does what he is told to do.
Also rest assured Davies' owners hold him in same contempt as they hold us.
@@gruby970 As Obi-Wan Kenobi put it: "Who is more foolish: The fool, or the fool who follows him?"
@@gruby970 Davies is a fool. I remember when Torchwood was going strong and he killed of Tosh and Owen. The fans were very upset but gave the next season a chance. Then he killed off Ianto and the backlash was huge. His response was that it was his show and he could do whatever he wanted with it. The show never recovered. The next season never had the ratings and the show died.
You would think that kind of message would sink in to a creator to know that it may be his show but without the fans the show doesn't exist but he clearly didn't learn it. He is the biggest fool there is.
If anything, Davros' disability made him a more complex character that the audience had a bit of compassion for. RTD completely muffed this.
Does anyone else also think the sentence 'a male-presenting Time Lord would never understand' kind of contradicts itself? By calling him male _presenting_ , they're emphasising the fact he's not actually inherently male but only presenting as one at the moment, but for some reason he still 'wouldn't understand'. Also it's apparently okay to be sexist towards men. It's astounding to me they put that sentence in the special. It's completely unnecessary! It made me instantly dislike this Rose. Putting down others to make yourself look good is not a good look.
rose is superior to us all
That physical sonic shield would have been mighty useful on pretty much all of Doctor's adventures, weird how it was never used.
Right?? That could have been used countless times! What horrible writing.
also it's OP as f-ck, so stupid
@@JasonHauser125, I can believe it’s new. However, going forward, it’s going to make me think, “why doesn’t he use the sonic shield?”
In the voice of Rachel Zegler - weird... weird... LOL
Disney must have imported some of their best Marvel writers for this, I can feel it
Doctor Who died years ago, anyone who has been paying attention to the past 5 years of media knows that this was a DESPERATE, LAST-MINUTE attempt to win back some of the audience before the end.
Like Arriving at Waterloo 5 minutes before the battle, trying to turn the battle in favor of Napoleon.
If their intentions were to win back fans, then RTD most definitely went against that order.
@@theequalizer9154 Napoleon now looks more like Davros than Davros
Napoleon crossed the bank and church and was surprised at Waterloo lol, lmao even.
The best line in it was, a woman can do something a man never can... Just let it go.. clearly written by someone who has never met a woman 😂
The actual answer is give birth.
@@lisakurak3733
Don't let the trans community hear you say that.
A guy and his girl friend get into a fight about nothing, within 10 minutes the guy will want to make up and get pizza, the girl will then rant about how 2 years ago she wanted to get breadsticks with her pizza but he didn’t want to spend the money on it and now pizza is ruined forever.
My husband have actually had this fight I’m ashamed to admit.
@@settame1 I want to say not all girls are that bad. I'd just make sure there's some plain cheese pizza in there. 😅
A sad day when not even dragging David Tennant back can revitalise interest in this show. I remember watching through his tenure in the 2000's and enjoying just about every second. Seeing it come to this is both heart breaking and tiresome.
the entire series the past years with Jodie and wokeness and stupidity and then this episode are heart breaking and tiresome. Sadly like many series and shows, sometimes you can't recover from going down the drain and it's best to just let them flush.
describing davros as a wheelchair user is just weird, he sits in a modified dalek casing, which is basically a mini tank, which he uses to protect himself and harm others, and somehow we're not supposed to see that as wrong?
Well from what I've heard the dalek casing was based off of Davros' little transportation vehicle (I refuse to call it a wheelchair), and if a disability is the same thing as "entire lower body being ripped off in a freak accident" then Im confused
@@oobtty less freak accident and more nuclear weapon to the lab he was in, hence no eyes as they melted and his arm which he used to shield his face.
Also last I checked wheelchair users dont rely on their wheelchair to keep them alive.
That would be a life support system.
Did nobody notice that Russel T Davis created Lumic the creator of the cybermen? A DISABLED MAN IN A WHEEL CHAIR! He doesn't seem to have a problem with that does he? Only characters created by other writers.
Bloody good point!
As a disabled person born with a number of life-threatening conditions and limited mobility, what offends me most is able bodied people telling me what is problematic with regards to disabled people. Naturally, I can only speak for myself and am not some self-appointed spokesman for the disabled, but I loved the Davros character. It never occurred to me that it would be viewed as problematic. Maybe there are people who are offended by it, but I, alongside a number of similarly disabled people with whom I have spoken, are more offended by able bodied people treating me as though I should be surrounded by bubblewrap and handled with kid gloves. As far as I am concerned, Davros should be left as he was, half Dalek, half Kaled, with a motorised life-support machine, and not tinkered with just because some able bodied person sees it as “problematic”.
But that's the modus operandi of these people: Be offended on behalf of people they don't know and have never met and who, in all likelihood, aren't offended in the slightest by whatever the activists claim they should be.
Of course, these clowns have to find ever more ridiculous things to be offended about because if they stop being offended on behalf of others they'll have to get an actual job which requires actual work.
Yes! Thank you! That’s exactly what I’m referring to. It’s condescending and demeaning being the subject of someone else’s vicarious offence. THAT is something that DOES offend me, not a fictitious sci-fi villain, who just happens to have a wheelchair-like life support machine. I would be very interested to see just how many people, if any, have actually complained to the BBC about Davros’s “wheelchair bound” nefarious ways.
@@martindixon54They are not "offended". The point of the show is to push political correctness. They are not making a show for an audience.
@@martindixon54 A big part of "The message" is to convince [insert other group here] that they need YOU to speak for them, so that you can score easy points by stepping up for them and making yourself look like such a wonderful person, while making that group dependent on you because you have reach and they dont actually ever get the spotlight to speak for themselves.
This has been obvious for years. If [insert group here] was treated as equal, they would be expected to speak for themselves, access the job market on their own merit, and not need affirmative action or preachy media to "help" them. That in itself implies that [insert group here] is seen as lesser than the people doing the preaching for them.
Can you imagine handing over a weaponized wheelchair to an already "angry that I have to be in a wheelchair" person?
I was that person at 15; and if my wheelchair had had weapons, I would have used them with Davros-like glee.
RIP Doctor Who…even he can’t regenerate from this!
It’s Doctor WH0 now.
@@brockdavid Doctor Whoops
This time them is riding though Space and Time in the Re-TARDIS
Xavier is in a wheelchair. Daredevil is blind. Deadpool (a good guy?) has cancer. Peter Parker is a mutated freak. Rogue is excluded from receiving and giving affection.
Good guys generally accept their shortcomings and try to live with them or make the best of it.
Bad guys do whatever they can to heal themselves or let their hatred take revenge on the world.
Okay, so i cant be the only one who found Rose's entire reason that she was non binary being because of the meta crisis ridiculously offensive and doing the exact opposite of what intended. If you want to put out a message that your identity is what matters over your physical self, don't then create a physical reason for making her that way.
Also the letting go of the Time lord dna scene made me laugh so hard.
1. Apparently Time Lords have the ability to do that, but the male presenting ones cant let their power go, that ability sure would have come in handy during the Family if Blood arc.
2. The Doctor is now a man, doesn't mean he's "forget", how to do something he could do as a woman
3. The whole message that women can let go of power but men can't is just laughable
4. Rose is non- binary as well, so why is she jumping on a woman bandwagon whenever convenient to her
5. This undoes the entire mind wiping thing from Journeys end, because apparently the Doctor never needed to do this, Donna could just "let go".
They couldn't have done a worse job of writing this, this was all i looked forward to in life since September, and i just feel cheated
Thought about getting dingy plus lucky I don't need
uhm, one thing you're forgetting. Donna was at her last moments there, and couldnt think clearly, and the doctor erased her memories before she was able to do it, the doctor basically did it FOR her, but if she remembered she would die. well, stop looking forward to it like that then, i thought the episode was god damn amazing, and funny.
Donna Noble is a totally uneducated girl from a household with a single mom who just scraped by. She was not smart as many other companions, but she was tough and had kind of down to earth street smarts. That made you forget her sometimes nerve wrecking dominant streak. Now it seems she became Phoebe Waller bridge, only that Tennant is not old Harrison Ford. What a üity. One beloved IP after the other ruined. I think Disneys culture war influence is feelt throughout all of this.
@christianefiorito3204 thank you I knew it resonated it was the Indiana Jones and the phobe waller-bridge too far.
This is an excellent comment. So many great points!
4:03 I was an ambulatory wheelchair user prior to my first neurosurgery and this cracked me up. Not only can I easily picture the mechanics of this, but I can absolutely see myself either shooting backwards or falling over (or both). Rocky ground nearly upended me; a rocket shooting out of my wheelchair would have ended me. 😂
Disparu doesn't understand how rockets work. They don't cause recoil because the propellant gets out at the rear. Now standing behind something that fires a rocket or if it's multi-stage and initially propelled by explosives (which isn't really done) that's another story.
@@kaltaron1284 I must have misheard him, because I was thinking of recoil… like when you shoot a big gun. I guess the image I was cracking myself up with in my head got in the way of my actually hearing his exact words.
@@kaltaron1284you saw the chair, right? Where was the opening for the rocket burners? They treated a rocket like a bullet, so there would be recoil. You can't blame him for their poor design choices
@@tahlia__nerds_out He didn't say recoil but there's (nearly) none so mentioning Newton's Third Law makes no sense.
@@justing7490 True to a point. Namely until the rocket leaves the tube which happens very quickly so there isn't much gas pressure. Esp. for a fire cracker like those shown.
It would be a bit more serious for real missiles which is why those have exausts.
With explosive propellants like in the usual cartriges, you get all the force immidiately instead so there's far more recoil.
I am A Queer Woman and I didn't really understand what was going on? Like they tried to do their normal scifi bullshit with gender stuff, and since I understand all of the words they use, it makes it clear how nonsensical it is because they don't use them in a context that could possibly mean anything.
I'd say making a force-field with a sonic screwdriver isn't necessarily a problem, since it was always basically magic.
The problem is that you can't just introduce a function like that so late in a series when there are probably a billion instances where he should have used it in the past and just didn't. Changes like this retroactively make characters stupid.
It would make more sense if the Doctor had installed nanotech safety features into Donna's house, on the sly.
Nu-hoo sonic is harry potter wand. Old who never was
What is the betting this extremely useful feature will never be used again?
i liked it, i thought its better that the sonic actually has more functions than door unlocking. its cool and new.
Brand new era = Brand new sonic = Brand new features
You know the writers hate the fact they couldn't write with a female doctor and show their sexism at full force
1000%
The DOCTOR IS OVER 1000 YEARS OLD - AND YET HE KNOWS NOTHING????
He’s seen the creation and destruction of the universe!
WTF!
I haven't cared about Doctor who in years but my sister was a huge Doctor who fan and she was so excited for the old writers and actors coming back. What a slap in the face
I was mildly interested. 10 was my favorite doctor, and after the trashfire that was 13 I figured they were diving hard into 'let us win you back' I was wrong.
The show died when Peter Capaldi was leaving. It was starting to "turn" towards the end of his series run. Then the BBC heard the word "Woke" and...Well. They took a great show and polished it into the dullest of turds.
Hiring writers that are woke, weak, appologists will never create entertaining, wholesome or historical programs. Just think of the classics that wouldnt be made today. Only fools, Red Dwarf, The Young ones, Bottom, Are you being served....NOT ONE of these shows would even be considered now. and our television is worse for it.
Doctor Who is dead. Introducing: Doctor Jake.
Good cause you ain't a fan lol
People getting mad over this episode makes me laugh because those cringe Moments have always been in the show always people are just now noticing and it’s hilarious
Watched this with a friend who is not totally woke but certainly more than I am and we were both in disbelief, both of us laughing and also stunned how bad this episode was. The show should just be taken out of its misery at the point.
Before, when the show was charming, the campiness was endearing. It was obviously a low-budget project made with a lot of heart. But now it's a low budget project with a lot of preaching, like a church play.
Watched it with my gf who is def more understanding with the times than me and just watched all of dr who last year with me. We were both stunned like what the hell is happening. Very disappointing for the both of us.
Put in the vault until some great writer, years later decides he wants to reboot it again. Hopefully the budget is better by then
It really needs the Old Yella treatment.
What seems to have been forgotten by a lot of people that were excited about Russell T. Davies coming back is that some of the best episodes from his first time as show runner were actually written by other people including Steven Moffat. Begs the question if Moffat was the one who really needed to be brought back but not sure if Moffat would have played ball with BBC and disney.
Moffat was what people liked. I never realized who Russel T Davis was but Stephan Moffat somehow could turn water into wine with his writing. The best arcs, the best one off episodes, hell his other series are also brilliant.
From what I’ve heard about him personally he probably would have played ball at least a little, maybe not as much as the BBC would want though.
@@settame1Davies made 10 and revived the show, don't discredit him because of him fucking it up now, people change
The moff would play ball, he already started near the end of his run, especially with his pretty bad characterization of the first doctor, painting him as sexist racist etc when he never was characterized as those things because around the time the moff wrote it Hartnell was being called a sexist lmao
Their “with me or against me” mentality is beyond sickening
Nuance is a world beyond them
Cult mentality, just look up how cults deal with those who disagree with them and how they exile those in their midst who question anything.
oh no, they're against you no matter how you put it
long as you're male, white
When I hear the phrase "male-presenting" my eyes glaze over so bad I think I'm a donut for 3 days
This episode was like watching home movies at a wake. No matter how desperately we wish they were still alive, we can't ignore the corpse in the Box! Now, I just hope I live long enough to enjoy the home videos again.
Instead of celebrating the 60th anniversary of Doctor Who, I feel like I'm at its eulogy.
RIP
I mean to me, there isn't a 60th anniversary.
The Doctor ended with 12 for me.
Guess this year of entertainment milestone anniversaries have been shit.
@@redreaper3065the Valeyard won in the end.
As an African-American guy in his 60s I remember watching Tom Baker on our public television here in New Jersey when I was a child. I didn’t understand some of the jokes or phrases. But I generally got the idea that the doctor was a guy whose superpower was that he was smart! the cheesy special effects and crazy costumes were not that impressive even when I was a little boy. The doctor was generally progressive. The politics of the day never was a part of Doctor Who. The show was a strange mix of Science Fiction and fantasy, and I was overjoyed when it came back with the ninth doctor. It became so popular that by the time we got to the Matt Smith era a decent amount of Americans were watching the show. I stuck around for Peter Capaldi, because I grew up with the doctor being a older British gentleman. And the doctors always been a goofball. After a few seasons, Peter became the doctor. You never knew what he was gonna say, and he was genuinely funny. I’m not a sexist, or some Internet troll in the Manosphere so I didn’t care if the doctor was going to regenerate into a woman. I thought Jodi was good at her job, but she was given such crap to work with. The Rosa Parks episode was absolutely awful. The costumes in the settings did not look like the south, and it was rewriting history. Rosa Parks was a political activist, who planned with local civil rights organizations, an act of civil disobedience when she refused to give up her seat. She was not the first woman to do so. Another activist had done the same thing several years earlier unsuccessfully. The scene where Jodi’s companions, one black and one Indian go to a restaurant, and sit down at a table is absolutely outrageous. They would have been beaten up arrested, and possibly sexually assaulted not only by the townsfolk, but also by the police. We are talking 1970s South African apartheid era hatred. Personally, I’m a Democrat. I like the idea that everybody can overcome their differences and that there is no hierarchy in race or nationality. It’s the Star Trek political point of view. I don’t have any hatred against the LBGTQ community, but I don’t understand why Donna couldn’t just have a daughter or a son. Why did it Hass to be a trans daughter? There’s something strange going on, and this show proves that it’s international. We’re not talking about religion or politics. We’re talking about the basic idea of men and women. Doctor Who is supposed to be a show for young people.
Funny thing is, there's an episode of British history they could have chosen rather than butcher one from the US. Most people have heard of Rosa Parks but few of the Bristol bus boycott of 1963. It's worth a search. It's something close to my family history as I'm from Bristol, was born in 62 and my dad had just started working on the buses when it started.
doctor who for young people?, considering the horror voilence and insanely dark themes this show aint for young people, its more for mature audience or of all ages
I think very few people took issue with gender-swapping the doctor because they hate women, as opposed to the far more obvious reason that he has been consistently portrayed as male for over half a century. Crying sexism and misogyny has been the go-to excuse for progressive activists whenever their ideology-laden reboots and sequels and retcons get rejected by fans, and it is tiresome whenever people still give credence to this lame narrative.
If the agenda behind all these race and gender-swaps, all this diversity and representation, didn't also come with a load of baggage as it relates to what types of stories can be told, which demographics are and aren't allowed to be villains, etc. I daresay people would be more open to a female doctor. As it stands, it means that the IP has to be put into an ideological straightjacket, so people are justifiably prejudiced against it, because we've seen this play out half a dozen times with various IPs.
TL;DR: The people that treat diversity and representation on screen as a political aim cannot complain when people recognise that this political push for diversity always comes with additional ideological strings attached.
I hate to say this man, but your chosen political ideology is the one that laid the groundwork for this nonsense and continues to not only push this age-inappropriate gender and sex issues on kids, but is fighting to hide it from parents.
@@rangopistacho6928 yes doctor who was a family show, young people included. Believe it or not young people could watch doctor whos timid dark themes quite easily lol.
How to fix Dr. Who:
1. Make Timeless children non-canon, then destroy all copies.
2. Remove the woke and messaging, and go back to simply entertaining.
3. Apologize to the fans for trying to kill the show, and ask to be forgiven, and promise to not do this again.
That should do it.
I never thought stephen hawking was evil. but now rtd pointed it out to me....
glad i never read his books of pure hatred
I love how the producers didn't have the courage to put Tennant in his predecessor's clothes but regenerated the outfit too.
Because Terfs, and other morons would complain, because of all the hate the UK gov and media is pushing.
Very telling
@SteveyTheEx-Eevee And yet, it really wasn't unisex at all. No man in their right mind with ANY self-respect would cosplay as Jodie Whittaker.
Personally I don't have a problem with them featuring the return of a rarely-used feature of regeneration not seen since the first one back in 1966. The Doctor's clothes changed in that one, too.
@@filthycasual8187 Did they change in-universe, though? In Power of the Daleks and in Castrovalva when they gave Peter shoes instead of Tom's boots I would have put that down to costuming errors rather than the clothes changing as part of the story. The 2nd Doctor even makes a point of saying things don't fit him since he has a new body, so you would have thought his regeneration would have done a better job giving him clothes that fit if this was the case!
@@filthycasual8187 Not only would no man cosplay as Jodie, but even though the other doctors' outfits are rather "masculine," women would look perfectly fine in them. I've seen women cosplay as 10 suit and all and they always look great. Maybe they should stick with masculine clothing cause it _is_ actually unisex lol
Notice how Davies says "There's a problem with Davros...."
In fact it's his OWN interpretation, his OWN way of thinking, that he means. It's how he CHOSE to see the character.
But no, he claims a "problem" existing objectively outside of his head and independent of him.
He doesn't have the self awareness - or maybe the courage? - to say "I personally didn't like old Davros". He shirks responsibility.
And yet this Davies is supposedly an adult with a job?
The thing that upset me the most is that Donna, whom the Doctor kept talking about as 'my best friend' (and theirs was indeed a great friendship back in season 4 and later, when Ten's been talking about her in other episodes), just kept putting and dragging him down and denigrating him - and that is most certainly not a thing a good friend would do. And to do so in such an obnoxious and smug way, oh, the sheer hubris! Well, I knew after the words about not retconning the Timeless child crap that that ship's not gonna be towed into dock for repairs, but I didn't think they'd manage to sink it into Mariana trench with crappily undoing one of my all-time favourite bittersweet stories of New-Who, the story of Doctor-Donna friendship. I'm not even sad about DW anymore, I guess I'm just… finally completely numb about it.
Yes. Donna was a stern lady but only derided the doctor when he earned it
The sensitivity readers on RTD's team have never had a healthy friendship with another human being between the lot of them. Seeing one depicted on screen would be traumatic for them.
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can have fond memories of the original run of Donna. She was an insufferable bint of a character long before they decided to deify her for having XX chromosomes. The combination of being really dumb and really loud and obnoxious truly made Donna the on-screen equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard.
I feel bad for Tennant because his doctor was a charming character, but Donna? You can't ruin fond memories of a character if there never were any to begin with.
did you never watch the first run with her? she was a fan darling, and I always hated her for being a harpy of a woman, constantly talking down to a literal god.
@@AliRadicali right? literally the only heart touching moments she had were in her final episode, and even then it was more to do with wilfred then it was with her. Old will and the doctor had more chemistry then a 1000 Dr. Donna's
Are we sure the woman on the wheelchair isn't evil? I think she is at least evil-adjacent
What a stupid question. Of course she's evil! Haven't you paid attention to the episodes where the evil guy was in a wheelchair?
She seems to enjoy hurting people.
She is the Masters latest incarnation.
I mean did she ever say she was evil or did someone assume her label....
What amazed me about the lady being a wheelchair user us that it implies that she is a paraplegic who at one point crosses her legs when she is talking to the Doctor.
Stop giving Tennant a pass on all of this. He read the script, signed on, and cashed the check. He's tarnished his own legacy by participating in this farcical tragedy.
It’s a job at the end of the day. It’s not his fault that episode was bad he did the best with what he had
@@wtech758
Years ago, an actor would stand up and refuse to do garbage like this.
They now bend the knee to bad studios and directors and script writers.
"Entertainment" is swirling the drain.
He has a gay non-binary 10 year old son. He knew what he was doing.
@@wtech758Eccleston stood for his values
I feel bad for those who actually had hope for the New Dr. Who? They should have known what was coming. Russek T Davies clearly drank the Kool-aid, and this was never going to be anything better than a trash fire extrodinare.
Three years ago I got my mom into Doctor Who and started with David Tennant. Now she’s a huge fan of that version of The Doctor and was willing to give this new who a try. Once I told her what was in this new episode she was so sad so we went on a binge of The David Tennant series for the whole day to make her feel better lol
I didn't know it was coming. I've seen RTD's episodes before, and some of them are my absolute favourite of all time (like Midnight). There was no woke propaganda in any of those as I remember them (and if there were, at least they where subtle and didn't affect the plot), but this... what even is this sht? It's not Doctor Who, I'll tell you this much
RTD wrote some of my favorite episodes ever in 2005 and 2006, he once had the ability to write entertainment first and foremost. Whatever he's writing now isn't the same if no one's editing his work they need to!
@@PD-ws4td I agree
@@Danimeows true
The best part of the show was when Donna said her daughter couldn't act, I was sitting there thinking 'and neither can the actress playing her.'
Actor, you meant Actor, because in the words of Austin Powers "That's a man, baby"
@ They've got a stronger jawline than me!
@@archstanton9073 He's got Mary Jane in Spiderman 2 beat.
Absolutely. By the way did you just misgender her? :D
She identifies as the definite article just like the meep or whateverthefk that was called.
Careful, she'll show up somewhere in your life and hold you accountable for that hahahahahahahahahhahahaa
Actor. He’s a man
even if some people just saw Davros as a man in a wheelchair.. that guy owned it!
The dude is not someone you would ever call weak or even impaired, one of the doctor's greatest adversaries, a genius in his own right, he has a lot of back story and to simplify him as merely a evil man in a wheelchair is criminal.
Davros didn't need to be changed!!!!
You can never go wrong with a "dead parrot sketch" reference.
it has ceased to be!
We need to start associating having two arms with being evil. Most villains have two arms after all.
We need to start associating modern media producers with evil.
They also have faces, he's correct. I like everyone else associates faces with evil cz one bad guy has a face.
They must know how insane they sound or they are chronically addicted to some substances
@@Jonny-sv9ni To be fair, if they're insane they might not know they're insane.
Of course comunists don’t know there insane
04:41 OMG! Yasmin Finney has a bigger Adam's Apple than David Tennant! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And THAT is saying something!
Please only do a full episode review if you think it will not drive you mad. We don’t know what will push you over the edge and you’ve been such a heroic star dealing with Robyn Hood and stuff. Thank you for your sense of humor! 🙏😎
"It would be unusual for an alien to get offended by some human social nuance we've had for five minutes." lol
It's just occurred to me, Russell made that speech about people in wheelchairs being evil and then wrote a character in a wheelchair which is full of weaponry; maybe he's just trying to set a precedent to fear people in wheelchairs so that when the audience finally gets sick enough of him they won't break his legs (in a video game) and confine him to one.
The spite the writers are projecting through the screen is astonishing, they are like children: "If I can't have the show my way, I'll just ruin it for everyone. Haha."
Like Luke Skywalker, they brought back a beloved hero to destroy him, to ruin his memory for all future generations as if it's deserved. "Oh, you liked him, did you? Well, look at him now. Not so great after all, was he?" Childish jealousy because he was better than anything they can come up with. Because their new heroes are pitiful weak jokes compared to the old ones.
Donna's husband is hen-pecked, her granddad is locked away in an old folks home, and she gaslit her underage son into believing he's a girl. Donna is the misandrist villain for this, right?
That's not Donna. Until I'm proven. Otherwise, my headcanon is that it was a Zygon.
isn't she the evil b. from The Office?
@@WillofDD, that makes sense!
She was a skrull
@@WillofDDeven Zygon's aren't that evil.
Bringing back David Tennant, just to shit on him was an enormous slap in the face. And you can tell he probably wanted to throw the script he was given into the garbage and set it on fire the moment he saw it.
13 started with 10.8 millions views and ended with 5.3 million. If the specials started with 6.3 million they are still 4 million short of her best, which is a tragic death knell. Comically sad but hailed as a victory by them…
"Something a male presenting time lord would never understand" - ok then. WHY didn't the last Doctor, the female presenting one, come back and fix Donna then? Would she not have immediately understood and rushed back to save her best friend Donna?
Did Russel T. Davies forget that the Doctor WAS already present once at the creation of the Daleks? And why they were called Daleks? A reverse of the Kaleds, the race they originated from?
I thought Tenant was going to be some sort of mid transformation, midlife crisis thing... not an official "new" Doctor with and old face. So now we have a Doctor whose only purpose of existing is to try and bring back the old audience through nostalgia. Ironically because of all this I can't even go back to re-watching old episodes knowing what becomes of one of my favorite shows... RTD took my nostalgia and waterboarded over a bamboo tree while it was slowly penetrated and died.
It’s a shame. Such a beloved franchise. But a statement such as this is a common phase today. The only positives is watching the companies responsible suffer for it and watching creators like Disparu who speak honestly about the lack of quality profit from it.
These people are destroying entertainment,Davros was never a wheelchair user , he was a Dalek.
The bad guys are usually more badass and much cooler than the actual hero. So they're basically telling us that a disabled person can't play a badass character!?
yeah they can only be a diversity placeholder now. Hey it's better than with dwarves
Mein Doctor, I can walk!
@@dr8576you can't fight in the war room.......
It's crazy that a show that lasted for decades and retained a loyal fanbase while adding more over the years was knackered in less than a single decade - I highly doubt they'll be getting syndication deals for these episodes in 30 years time from countries across the world like the previous ones did.
Next time I come across a person in a wheelchair I'm gonna check to see if they have rockets in it or they're evil, I'll probably have to tell them that RTD told me that's what they're associated with in case they think it's weird that I'm looking for explosives.
Being fair it started at the end of 2005, romancing the Doctor which had only ever been tried distantly and lightly and never ever to really work in the 1960s, once.
Isn't it funny, evil Davros didn;t have any weapons in his chair, and yet the UNIT thing had multiple offensive weapons built right into her's, but she's apparently 'good'.
@@zybch I'm still trying to get past a UNIT retirement care home for soldiers blasted with PTSD fighting mind controllers, aliens, future technologies and everything else taking in an ordinary ex-soldier when couldn't Kate LethbICan'tEvenSayIt could've asked the Doctor to take him somewhere beautiful in the stars he used to watch.
Also didn't Davies make a point of dismantling UNIT but now he's all behind bringing it back?
You could put DEFENSIVE weaponry or even repulsors into a wheelchair, but let's make it a completely unarmoured badly manoeuvred unpropelled light arms platform with no protection for the disabled occupant.
Anybody criticising this show and the authors purely on the basis of The Message is fatally missing the fact that THE WRITERS ARE JUST INCOMPETENT IDIOTS ANYWAY.
The BBC has also shit on it's world wide distributors/buyers of the last 5+ decades. Here in Australia our equivalent ABC (free to air - commercial free) always got first dibs on Dr Who and later it was shared with cable. But this version is not. The BBC basically told the ABC to eff off in favour of Disney+. I only found that out a few days ago so I wasn't watching this on principle even though I wanted to see Dr/Donna. That was enough. I won't watch Disney and this only confirmed I made the right decision.
@@tkps Australian right here.
I remember when this was announced, some moron started saying how great this was because it would ensure a wider audience for new Doctor Who and I had to point out we lost it from our free-to-air national broadcaster thanks to the thieving disgusting stupidity of the BBC and Disney.
It's a shame the ABC relies on the stupid social media standards instead of hosting their own feedback. I was checking the website hoping to write them a letter of congratulations on not having to broadcast this absolute garbage.
In this episode, these are Russell T. Davies' contributions to minority groups:
- he tells wheelchair users that they can't create scary robots. Only a fully able person (Davros) can build scary robots.
- on top of all the difficulties that trans people face, they will now be resented for belittling and sneering at the much loved Doctor.
- If long-standing Doctor Who fans are a minority group, Mr. Davies has contributed them a reason to expand their horizons and watch something else instead.
I actually thought Russel T Davis could save Doctor Who 😂 How wrong was I
So disappointing 😮
He's absolutely worse than chinball
He could have if he wanted to. Coward.
Well, wokeness was announced from the start and Disney is involved. I'm honestly not surprised that it was bad. But atvleast it felt like I was watching Doctor Who unlike the Chibnall era. Still bad though.
@@SchultzDorinda
I've not seen it yet... And based on this video I have no plans to watch it... Even with David Tennant involved.
3:30 This made me laugh, because I once asked someone in a wheel chair, who liked to bow hunt, why he did not use a rifle, and he basically said the same thing. =D
Russel T Davies has burned everything positive he gave to Dr Who.
I’m not even a Who fan, and I’m appalled at how this was supposed to be the commemoration episode of the 60th anniversary. Absolutely disgusting. At least, we can’t blame Disney for this franchise failing. BBC has done a good job of doing that on their own.
Disney recently started to help produce the show. They even helped in this 60th anniversary special.
Day of the doctors was and will always be the best anniversary episode ever! This I watched just to see my favourite era of Doctor Who to be walked on like it was nothing
@@joshwheeler9700no they don't lmao they only have streaming rights
Yeah we can’t blame Disney because they have no part in the creation of this episode whatsoever except for the budget
And as a Doctor Who fan I love the episode it felt like some of the older seasons of the reboot series
"You stupid woman! And, that weird child!"
I agree with that.
Found it hilarious how Meep basically got away with that roast. Donna was about to snap back but Meep didn't let her lmao
I mean that was quite clearly an attempt at labelling anyone with that view as evil. However it did make me laugh i must admit
The Meep is a Furby and no one will tell me otherwise.
The Capaldi era wasn't even as well written as the older stuff, and it was still so much better.
I sort of like the idea that the Doctor was aware that his 12th incarnation would be his last, because after that, he wouldn't be the Doctor anymore, despite technically still persisting.
13th incarnation. One original then twelve regenerations.
There were also stories in the past dependent on how many he had left.
@@troffle That's OK. The War Doctor is his ninth regeneration anyway; he's just not numbered because he was between the FOX made-for-TV movie and NuWho. (And only invented because Eccleston had such a shit time with the showrunners he wasn't willing to come back even for a crossover special.)
@@boobah5643 "not numbered" is no kind of excuse for any miscounting when the point is to try maintaining a coherent world and story.
The doctor died with capaldi, I dont know who this new timeless thing is, but it isnt the Doctor.
Every time I see a wheelchair I piss myself now, I'm expecting for them to attack me with the weapons embedded into the chair. They now scare the shit outta me!
If they wanted Donna to be a memberberry,
did they remember that Donna's brain would burn and/or explode (or something along those lines) if she ever remembered the Doctor, TARDIS or any time spent with them, for even one moment?
Did she get some space aspirin to prevent that major headache or did the XX plot armor prove once again to be indestructible?
(added) After seeing a full review, I now know it was indeed the strong plot armor of the XX uterus.
Yes they changed Csnon
Funny how in a show when time actually isn't a hindrance they couldn't have kept that important plot point in tact. Yes to many it is a cop out to have the Doctor being forced to go back in time to pick up Donna prior to when they needed to part ways, yet it actually could have been interesting. He has the same face as the version she knows, yet isn't the same Doctor. Add in that he knows how things end for them while she doesn't which could have added another layer.
oh it was fine, being around him didnt make her remember, in fact her daughter remembered more memories than she did, he had to give her a winter soldier key code to unlock the brain bomb which turned out has been a dud for 15 years which the genius that is the doctor didnt work out until after the fact.
It’s sad that this one of the biggest television series after 6 decades managed to kill itself with hope and damaged itself worse than any other franchise
Say "thankyou bbc" and keep paying your licence fee so they can bring you more entertainment- just like this.
@@JohnSmith-ux3tt thanks for ruining another good franchise
@@JohnSmith-ux3tt We got Robyn Hood reviews thanks to the Canadians paying taxes.
It didn't kill itself. This sick society we're in now killed it. It gave us ideas on what a world should be like and WE IGNORED IT, went the wrong way and decided to destroy anything that didn't fit that world.
Well looks like my favorite doctors now are tom baker Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann.
I think it's adorable that RTD thinks all kids walk to school thinking about his show.
They used to tbf, before it became whatever the fuck this is
The irony being that they used to. Tennant's final episode was the talk of the playground when I was in school. Nothing good lasts forever.
So excited to see David Tennant as The Doctor again (he’s my favorite) and this is how they treat him?! “If only you had your woman’s brain.” Wtf?!
That's an ironic statement because a lot of people claim that there is no difference between men and women and that gender is all a choice. But apparently, it's not. Women have different brains from men. ...or presenting oneself as a man actually changes how the brain works...which makes no sense.
He's complicit
This is why I don't want Disney to bring back Iron man. He's going to get emasculated.
@@XiaoFuryIron Woman (probably)
funny that the old school dw fans did not see the doctor as male
After all 3 episodes, my reaction was 'they brought David Tennant back for this?'
Russel T Davies fought tooth and nail for the priviledge of running this show straight down to oblivion. Like, "If anyone is going to kill th Doctor, that has got to be me!"
He didn’t kill the Doctor, he made a pretty good special
@deadpooldan9862 the Doctor is as much alive as the MCU and Star Wars at this point. Sure, there are people making "content" using their respective IPs, but we no longer care.
@@dementesf thank you, this is true. They’re all far from dead, and the true fans still care
@deadpooldan9862 True fans will always care, and will always watch, even if just to criticize later. Thing is, fans are a minority. Normies are what franchise need to cater to in order to thrive. And normies just don't give a fuck anymore.
The worst part of this show was the trans person is supposed to be 15. That is way too young to be doing that. The twist of this show is that Russell T Davis is an evil preditor to teenagers
Butbutbut I thought they totally weren't doing that to minors!
THE ACTOR IS 20. Playing a kid. bit dodgy
Love it how when you read through the article on it, the only part of 'The Message' that was highlighted was 'The Mess'. Seems quite fitting
RTD now speaks for all people with a disability as well as all gay men. What a guy.
I may give up writing and pass the baton to Disparu.
Yes what about gay disabled men ? 😂
Makes sense why he’s not willing to retcon The Timeless Child. Ya know cuz his bestie wrote it. 🙄🤦🏻♀️😤
I've been far more excited for your review than the show itself.
First of all, you didnt know that he was going to review it so you’re lying
Second of all, cliche boring comment
I'm sorry you were bored enough to respond. Why does it bother you that a total stranger did indeed look forward to a review?
Why did David come back? Did he agree to this before he saw the script?
Of course we want a full review, Disparu! We might as well get some actual entertainment out of the episode after all.
Be careful what you ask for. Right now, we're in the happy position of knowing the summary and how very PC this slime at BBC is. We're at the Finish line! Do you REALLY want to slog through an episode of trash?
Coming Soon: Meta Review, where I review, well, "reviews".
As soon as they announced David Tennant’s return, I was expecting damage control. I have to admit, they surprised me by shitting all over the series instead of having a return to good form. What a twist! Tear it apart with a full episode reviews please. I enjoy watching reviewers like you instead of these propagandist sludge factories’ copy and pasted social media fan-fiction.
David Tennant, my doctor, regenerating into Smith was a giant moment, and his “death” left me with genuine melancholy. Seeing Tennant living through this torture is unbearable. I wouldn’t have minded if it was just a crap episode I could have ignored, but they did it dancing on the corpse of a legend. What cruelty.
David fully supports this style unfortunately.
It's his politics now.
@@redreaper3065 Thats a shame ……still time for a red pill? If I was an actor in this environment, I wouldn’t be a hero, I’d stick to the message, easiest decision you could make, but by the law of averages some must be doing it through gritted teeth?
@@ThisUnfoldingCrisis eh if he wanted to not do it, he could always be silent. But on top of the shirt he's also worn rainbow pins with "You're safe with me" on them. He has a nonbinary child according to Google.
So yeah..far too late
@@redreaper3065 Yeah, but he's got 78 kids, so by law of averages? Shame, I didn't know any of that...fair enough on the PR tripe put out and gleefully gobbled up by BBC-Guardian, but on the parenting stuff, it's bloody hard, even when it's easy, so won't judge anybody on how they approach that part of their life.... "You're safe with me" on the other hand...
@@redreaper3065 Meh. Most kids are "queer" now. It's a fad and not very surprising for his child. That's nice that he supports his child's identity, even though they'll likely grow out of it anyway. Child or not, someone else's choices or identity shouldn't reflect David imo
Tennant was the only thing to bring me back to Dr Who... and they wasted that chance. Im not likely to ever watch Dr Who again.
There are a few channels on YT that are gushing praise all over this. I can only think that they watched something completely different to me in that case.... And as for the Furby with a squeaky voice, my 8 year old daughter said it was just stupid.
I was wanting some new Disparu content earlier, but I landed on rewatching some of the older velma videos. Then, partway through one of those videos, I got this notification! Cheer on the great content and amazing timing, lol.