Benelli m4 vs Beretta 1301 Tactical - Is there a new king?
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
- We rustled some feathers in our last video when we compared the Beretta 1301 tactical to the tried and true Benelli M4, so we decided to get our hands on the most recent fully loaded version of the Benelli, and put it up against the Beretta in a head to head. The results are not as clear cut as we think some of you may have assumed, but none the less, the Benelli M4 showed why its been dominating the combat shotgun industry for 20+ years.
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I have the 1301 and used the m4 in the Marines. Business competition is good. I bet the m4 would never have been upgraded had not Beretta 1301 become so popular. Between the two, I'd take the 1301 any day of the week. Lighter, shorter, faster on target, and cheaper. That matters more to most people (including me), than million round military-required durability, as most people can't afford to truly wear out either shotgun. Shorter is better for maneuvering in tight spaces, and faster between targets. Cheaper speaks for itself for normal people with monetary constraints however, there will always be people who want the military pedigree the m4 offers. I'd still love to have an m4, but it's just too damn expensive for me to justify as an addition to my 1301.
dude its like an inch shorter. what are you talking about. the m4 gets like 6 shorter than the 1301 with the stock collapsed too.
IIRC Beretta owns Benelli
You beat me to it, since I just now saw this video. Same, Marine used the M4. I prefer the Berretta 1301 end of story as you provided all of the necessary details.
@@loucyphers_nightmare Yes, they have for a long time.
Is the 1301 much better than the A300 ?
OK, I just bought a 1301 and love it but what pisses me off are all the internet commandos that assume excellence on everything based solely on their purchasing selection. Sort of like the old AR-15 wars when I argued Bushmaster was way better than your Rock River because, well, because I bought the Bushmaster. I bought a 1301 knowing the Benelli has been proven to be Marine proof after two decades of being used in WAR and not too many things can survive being baby-sat by a Marine. I have no problems if my shotgun is #2 I love it and it's dependable unlike a lot of other semi-auto shotguns. I just put a Holosun 507Cx green on mine and using the donut of death reticle it makes for a wonderful platform. Great video and new subscriber!
Beretta took 25 years of experience on the m4 and improved it with the 1301.
I have a different perspective...I'm a 30 yr waterfowler and have seen all types of shotguns go through all types of environments. That being said I have seen the benelli and beretta at there best and worst in all types of weather. Still gonna take the 1301 over the M4 specifically because of the blink gas system. Just a superb shotgun for a what you get.
Great video, have a 1301 and always wanted an m4, now with this new model more reason to get one thanks
Another Solid video my guy. Keep up the Good work...!!!!
Hell yea! Awesome video! Can’t wait for my 1301
I have both the Beretta 1301 Tactical and the Benelli M4. With my experience, I MUCH prefer the Beretta 1301 over the Benelli M4. My Benelli M4 occasionally fails to eject when shooting low recoil round. Mainly bird shots. As for my Beretta 1301, it spits out the low recoil bird shots with NO issues what so ever. The Beretta 1301 Tactical will be my home defense weapon of choice over the Benelli M4. That’s just me…
This is not a real situation. you have never even held an m4.
Agree with the burning yourself issue with the 1301; I'm looking at a Briley forend but they're ~$300 (worth it to mount lights/mounts and not burning yourself).
Great video straight to the point
I have a Langdon Tactical 1301 and I don't think I'd trade it for anything currently available. 🤘
@@ThaNathanater Wait! 1301 is way too sick. Well worth it.
@@ThaNathanaterthey back in stock. Got a reminder.
@@ThaNathanater I did as well. I got a bronze. I had it bought within 20 minutes of getting the notification. I see they out of stock already.
Don’t ever, EVER but the Chisel Machining stock, it’s HORRIBLE
About a month ago I picked the Langdon LTT 1301, still stocking up on ammo because when I go out and shoot I want to put a couple of hundreds rounds through her
I enjoyed the video. Nice work 🍻
If the 2nd Gen 1301 was out when I bought my M4, I probably would’ve bought it. They’re both amazing shotguns and you can’t really go wrong with either. One big negative on the Benelli is that the regular stock’s LOP is sooo damn long, and if you need to replace it with the collapsing one it’s like $500+. A big plus for the Beretta is that you can put Magpul furniture on it, and the Magpul shotgun stock is amazing.
M4 all the way don't believe the hype. Have both .
@@r.s.z.1151 you still prefer the M4? I love mine, but replacing the stock is bananas. So expensive! Getting the LE one with the collapsible stock from the beginning is the way to go. It wasn’t available when I got mine.
@@f5tornadeau LE? LOP? Sorry could you elaborate for me?
@@ritzkola2302 LE is the law enforcement version that comes with extended mag tubes and the adjustable stock from the factory. That’s really the only one worth buying at this point due to the cost and availability of upgrading them afterwards. LOP is length of pull and refers to the length of the butt stock which is waaay too long from the factory. To get the adjustable OEM one is $600.00 by itself.
@@r.s.z.1151I do have both. 1301 all day.
Great review
Where did you find this fully loaded version? I don't see it on Benelli's site
Need this answer as well
Haven't seen one ever offered IRL or online
I was wondering the same thing. Turns out this specific M4 is a Law enforcement version only. I saw one on gun broker and the seller requires you to provide LE credentials to purchase. This specific one is known as the M4 11732
I was wondering the same thing. Turns out this specific M4 is a Law enforcement version only. I saw one on gun broker and the seller requires you to provide LE credentials to purchase. This specific one is known as the M4 11732
QUESTION - Where did you find the M4 socked like that? Cannot find that anywhere.
Great Content!
Just bought a 1301 Mod 2. Thanks for the info! Wanted a M4 for years but just prioritized other firearms first. Finally got around to getting a shotgun. I’m excited!
Going to pick my mod 2 up this week. im so stoked
@@DD-dc5itit’s a great shotty!
Love it. Thank you for the video. Already connected my local store to get me a one. Can you tell me what you use for the extra rounds on your gun please 🙏🏼
Love my 1301 I made sure it was the one I wanted which was the lightest fastest cycling tube fed 12 gauge I could find. Might add and M3 to collection later to scratch that beneli itch.
I have an M3, excellent shotty. Good luck finding one
Good video but I hear a lot of annoying “mic tap” sounds. I’m wearing earbuds so it’s possible others aren’t hearing it.
I’m still undecided which way to go. I’m also curious what you’re opinion of the Gen 12 is. If you could have any of them for free, would you still choose the M4? It’s almost impossible for me to get past the ease of smacking in another magazine.
Do you have website all those upgrades on your m4? I just got one and I want to upgrade it.
😂 intereting choice of intro and music. Thanks for the review!
@@RallyTactical what's the name of the song?
I have the same M4 set up an streamlight in the same place. How do you keep you sling from getting caught up against the light?
Just curious, All the extras shown on your M4 like the handguard, oversize bolt release, adjustable stock. Did the gun come that way or did you add the parts? The reason I ask is I can't seem to find your model on the Benelli website. Thanks for any info...
Same. Mine came without any of those features. I've also been trying to find that info out but I don't see anything new on Bonelli's website.
@@fartknockers747 The model shown in this video is the newest version of the M4 and is only sold in the U.S. The same model is sold in Canada with the only difference being the mag holds 5 rounds instead of 7. This model in Canada is called the M4 T-Pro. If you are located in the U.S. get a hold of your Benelli distributor or a Benelli dealer and they can give you the info on the extra parts you need to make yours look like the M4 in the video. Be warned though, if you buy the parts from Benelli directly, they will be expensive.
@@kelseyhayes8171 I found a video highlighting all of the new stuff with the M4. Thank you because I definitely didn’t know that!!
I love my M4 T-Pro. 🍻 great video!
Thanks for the video and info. I have both these “Italian Stallions”. Either is outstanding. No noticeable performance differences. 1301 (pistol grip) length-of-pull is shorter and better suits my wife. 1301 is shorter over all - less than 2 inches longer than my Benelli SBS pump. Both shoot reliably - any load - and don’t require routine cleaning because the bolt remains nice and shiny clean after each outing. Cycling? Maybe the 1301 BLINK system is faster for advanced shooters but for the practical shooter, that speed advantage likely doesn’t matter. Bottom line (for me) - both great broomsticks guaranteed to reliably eliminate any home invasion threat quickly with devastating results.
That new V2 version of the M4 is sick!!! Finally all the correct upgrades out of the box!!! I have an older M4 h2O, but i will be buying the new V2, along with a A300 u-patrol for lower-cost alternative comparison. 👍🏻
A300 is slower but bang for buck can't be beat.
a300 isn't the same operating system as 1301
Great video ❤
Thank you!!
The weight and recoil balance is why my woman prefers the Beretta 1301 to the Benelli M4, it amuses me since they are the first shotguns she has fired.
love my 1301. just ordered the briley handguard that gives you a ton of m-lok and provides a barrier over the barrel for clamping without burning.
That handguard is not very comfy on top.
@@user-jg8cj6bb1n not sure what you mean by that. plenty comfy for me. and acts as a heat shield.
Thank you very much for the great review and for your thoughts on both shotguns. Can you please tell me where we can get that M4 model? I cannot find it anywhere online. Thank you once again.
I spoken with Benelli so far anything with the adjustable stock or extended tub is LE only, If this isn't a LE this dude is promoting a aftermarket as a factor buy
@@RallyTactical I stand corrected but oddly most reviews are not in English, you friend most have that John wick hook up because it seems not to be offered here! But I will speak with Pat again tomorrow.
@@RallyTactical well I’m bombed, so far that model will be only for LE and overseas only, so you guys have a unicorn lol.
@@RallyTactical Thank you very much, I'll definitely check it out.
@@OFCINC Haha, thank you my friend. I was driving myself crazy trying to find it. It's a sweet set up, hopefully it will become more readily available. Lol.
I feel like the 1301 is more geared for combat all the accessories you can buy including a CROM Aridus seals it.
@7:33 roger that !!! Thank you for the humor!!!
Not sure if it was mentioned, but the trigger on the M4 is pretty heavy (as expected for a military/LE application). The 1301 trigger is much lighter and smoother. Both had clean crisp breaks and good resets. The safety on the 1301 is also larger and easier to manipulate then the smaller, stiffer M4 safety. Going into combat, you want the M4. For a day at the range or field you want the 1301. IMHO
Not on the newer models. There isn't any creep and is basically a single stage. Would estimate 5lbs or so.
I have been wracking my brain trying to decide which of these 2 I was going to get. Now, with the newest M4 being available it is going to come down to affordability. IF I can get a great deal on the new M4 I will grab it up in a heartbeat, but who wouldn't, RIGHT? Of course, I wish my budget allowed for me to just go ahead and buy BOTH to have in my collection. If ONLY I were independently wealthy.
Do yourself a favor and look at the Beretta 300 Patrol ! I was in your position for a good while till I looked at the 300. Great gun for the money and doesn’t skip a beat !
What m4 does he have? On benellis website it doesn’t show any different “newer” models.
Nice video, wish I could get those upgrades for my older M4.
You can
@@sheepocalypse3898Where can I get that new hand guard and bolt release button? I can’t have the stock because I’m in CA.
They are available but you're gonna have to replace 5 parts to get around 922r if you want the 7 shot mag. About 500 for the collapsible stock, if you can find it. 300 ish for the one piece titanium tube. Trigger and 2 other parts of your choice like a handguard with mlock and you're easily 1k to 1500 extra! Not worth it imho
@@breckfreeride yeah that is a bit much, i think.
What an absolutely awesome time in history for American firearm enthusiasts. We get to bicker over the attributes of 2 of the finest semiautomatic shotguns ever produced in the history of mankind. We are truly blessed to have these fine tools available to us. It’s a great time to be alive……., well, except for all the other stuff. But the firearms community has such wonderful choices available. Now if we can work on the ‘other stuff’ or create our own new country, it’d TRULY be a great time to be alive.
And it will only cost you a single paycheck ! Glorious times !
Yeah, they aren’t cheap but for people to be able to purchase these amazing firearms in the first place, is a credit to manufacturers continuing to improve on their products and offer people great options. As far as the cost of the Benelli M4, numerous youtube channels have had pretty good luck with the Turkish clone of the M4, which can be had for around $500.
Fantastic topic: comparing these two. Thank you. Now compare different red dots for home defense on one of these shotguns.
So what you were saying between these two shotguns is almost perfection versus almost perfection? Sounds like the end-user can’t go wrong either way. Excellent review. While I agree a lighter shotgun is beneficial for some reasons most users won’t be lugging the heavier M4 around the mountains thus negating the weight issue. Just something to think about. Either way, excellent choice versus excellent choice.
i have shot both and own a 1301. i have to say the weight thing is more than just about hiking, the Beretta is so much faster at manipulating and maneuvering, reloading, target transitions, and the over sized controls come factory as well. The M4 is sick but it is an over priced dinosaur compared to the 1301 which is more like a modern Ferrari. i do think the M4 will be a bit tougher if used as a sledge hammer to beat things with however. I also still think anyone will be happy with either, i just dont understand the reason for the cost of the M4 when the Beretta is just so epic for less.
How and where did you get the updated m4? I have year 18 and a 20 H20
@@RallyTactical I’ll have to look on GB I tried just looking up the parts to convert mine. ? Could you tell me the the production year after the serial # you’ll see a IT# that is the production year thanks for help and sweet review!
Where can I find this new M4? Benelli doesn’t have it on their website and my local gun store guy shows current catalog and it’s not there. He says it isn’t factory as show here
I don’t see it on USA site only Italy. Can you buy them on the United States from benelli?
Would it at all be possible to spell out a link to the site where you can get an M4 like that? Cuz I can’t seem to find the modern version.
I spoken with Benelli so far anything with the adjustable stock or extended tub is LE only, If this isn't a LE this dude is promoting a aftermarket as a factor buy
@@OFCINC okay, okay. Non ffl holders are able to buy that right?
@@Jaszi007 as of what they told me no, only source the parts
@@OFCINC Ah so basically to get that version of it you have to buy a standard one, buy the extended tube & adjustable stock and then either have someone else put it on or much riskier do it yourself. Dang, well thanks for the help anyways😁
@@Jaszi007 better know a good gun smith, I'm about to do this my M4 H20
Great review but….where did you find that M4 built like that? Benelli doesn’t even have it on their website….
M4 v2
What a great review. Thanks much. Very fair.
I have a Benelli M4 from a few years back. I've had to pay through the nose for a larger charging handle, bolt release, and standard sized magazine tube (due to import laws); yet all of those things come standard on the 1301.
When I purchased my Benelli, the Beretta 1301 was totally new to the market and hadn't proven its chops to the same degree that is has now. If I were to do it all over again there's a good chance that I'd pick up the Beretta. No regrets though - both are flawless platforms and will guard hearth and home without fail.
Next - we need to address all the anti shotgun crap that people spew.
Burning your fingers is a legit point you don't see in any reviews. Depending on the model and rate of fire you can burn your hands by just firing 25 rounds or so. Idk why no one else is talking about that. Maybe they are just busy looking cool instead of firing the gun. I fixed that problem by wearing a glove on my support hand which didn't solve the problem, but usually, I am done shooting before it becomes uncomfortable to touch the gun. That handguard is a huge upgrade on the m4.
I have both... M4 was neutered by 922r. Gotta spend about an extra 1k on the "older" m4s to get it propper with the 7 shot titanium toob and 4 other american parts. I gotta say i like my 1301 more with the t1 crom and briely handguard.
Great video! I have a 1301 and put a good amount into it for upgrades. I love it but always have the itch for an M4 also. Why not have both 🤷🏻♂️? 😂 both great purchases
Can you do a video on body armor vs 00buck? 25 yards will pepper entire human torso. Will it hit unprotected area around body armor??
This is the Benelli M4 T Pro.
I'm still debating which one should I get? Both have prons and cons
I'm with you, I'm torn between the two.....
What handguard is on M4 in this video?
Sick intro
The M4 is a beast so is the 1301, The one benelli that gets overlooked a lot is the m3, price is good, aftermarket options endless and it just never fails.
M2 as well. Same internally as a m4 just typically more setup with longer barrel offerings and competition use.
@@jaydubs6354 Actually no, the operating system is different. M2 is recoil operated while the M4 is gas operated
Where did you find the new model Benelli? I can’t find it anywhere online or in store. What was the price?
@@RallyTactical What's the product sku?
I love both and have nothing against either, I know some factor the price, recoil, speed…I love my Benelli m3 for the factor of semi and auto. The main key is practice, practice PRACTICE. I do love the weight of the 1301 but I love how you can disassemble the m4 the easiest with no tools required. Shoot some argue over mag feed over tube magazines, I just love we all enjoy and are part of the 2A community.
2A?
2nd amendment.
I wonder what the difference would be with the 21" 1301 comp pro.. as far as recoil
The regular 21" 1301 has an overall length of 40.5 inches while 18.5" Mossberg 500's have an overall length of 39 inches. Add around an inch for the pro version due to extended choke. A 21" 1301 would make an awesome home defense shotgun. It all boils down to whether you want ghost ring sights or a bead to decide between a comp or a tactical 1301.
A300 Patrol is the new sales king!
What model of the M4 comes with all these upgrades???
Agreed. I have never seen one with the handguard..
Just got one. 11732
Like the Matts
It's interesting that the 3rd gun on the table which is shown many times is not mentioned once in the vid. For the rest of us who won't be going to war and who won't be shooting competition but who want a quality, fast shooting gun that will handle pretty much everything you feed it, perhaps we should consider the even less expensive Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol.
You're better off saving the extra money and buying the 1301. The blink system alone is worth the extra money.
I can't find this model Benelli M4 anywhere online :(
Ive never found 'C-Clamping' comfortable, on any rifle, and was suprised to see people still doing it with shotguns. Im hoping Beretta starts selling the A300 forend as an aftermarket piece, so 1301 owners can swap it over for a light mounting option.
definitely comes down to preference, I primarily had issues with the hand guard when going to reload and rotating the barrel towards my hand, under normal use this would never be an issue, but when training, that barrel gets way to hot to touch. Solved that problem with a briley hand gaurd.
What model is the m4?
I can’t even find that M4 on any website, including the manufacturer’s site. Unicorn?
You would think they would use a M4 buffer tube. The possibilities would be endless!!!
Any idea if that handguard can be purchased and added to an older M4?
There are better hand guard replacements available for the M4.
@@Cameraflyer-thank you. Any suggestions? Let me ask you this. If you could get the B&T for $100, would you consider it?
@@a30yearoldspic I might go for a longer handguard. The Briley 3 Gun M-LOK 13” Hand Guard looks good to me but it's $300.
M4 has 20 plus years of trained killers putting in work with it... the Beretta 1301 I'm sure is fantastic! Maybe even better. But it doesn't have 20+ years of kicking ass behind it... get the m4
I’ll stick to benelli for hunting. Got a super black eagle myself. About to add a 1301 tactical to the collection.
The 1301 is great until the little rubber O-ring in the gas system goes. The m4 for is going to run a lot longer without a problem.
Briley makes a similar hand guard for the 1301
Benelli makes GREAT guns. Best on the market as far as I'm concerned.
Whats the SKU number on this?
Excellent video but please help me. I looked on multiple sites including Benelli and I do not see a shotgun that looks anything like that. Not that stock and certainly not the grip on top of barrel. TYVM.
There isn't a M4 that comes like stock this. The M4 used is this comparison is modified. It's really unfair to compare a completely stock $1500 Beretta 1301 (that's not even a 1301 Mod.2) to a $3500+ tricked-out Benelli M4.
@@markn4526wrong. They are on gun broker. It’s the version 2 of the benelli M4. 11732 is the model number if I remember correctly. It’s not $3500 that’s just dumb. Try $1900 approx to $2200
@@rlr1080 Maybe I'm wrong, but then why does the presenter talk about "all the factory upgrades" to the M4 used to this comparison? At minimum it should have been compared to the Beretta 1301 Mod.2.
@@markn4526 Yea I agree it could have been confused as it was stated. My point is the price of the current Berretta 1301 (which is mod 2) and the M4 (which is version 2) are very close, probably $200 to $300 difference depending on if you get ceretkote versions and what not. I'm in the market for one of these also. I'm thinking of the LE version of the Benelli, last gen, but you cannot go wrong with either of these in my opinion.
@@rlr1080 Agreed. I have a Beretta A300 Ultima Pro and I'm very happy with it. I am thinking about upgrading to a Beretta 1301 Mod.2 with a pistol grip stock next year though.
I just looked at benellis website. I don’t see that version
I'm guessing everyone here already knows, that Beretta also owns Benelli. Two Italian brothers.
Compared to Mossberg jm pro??
Picking up my Benelli next week.
I just picked up that exact M4 with all the new mods … I’m stoked
What's the model number?
Where did you get the Benelli from?
Gunbroker
@@RallyTactical Damn. I didn't know if Gunbroker was trustworthy.
Gunbrokers made improvements to hold dealers/profiles accountable. Just check the details for additional charges people like to add (Card Fees,shipping, Restocking Fees)
@RallyTactical So, is that legit the latest model by Benelli, or is it a custom job? I'm guessing it ran you a little north of $2500? Sorry about all the questions.
So now what, 1301 mod 2 further improved the 1301 grip and feed ramp?
I think it makes this even more of a non issue for the forend
Both THE BEST
Your channel is so underrated! Grab a pop filter for your mic!
Try the 1301 mod 2 out and see how it compares now
Genesis 12 has revolutionized the game. It will be the new industry standard in 5 years time.
100% even a semi auto tube fed comes off as a lever action compared to an AR with the new Gen 12
The Genesis arms 12 gauge?
@@brighthought11 can you elaborate?
@@ritzkola2302 I am saying the Gen 12 platform is an evolved system for the Shotgun, its clearly superior to tube fed in a way akin to comparing a lever action to an AR15
@@brighthought11 Is this the first Magazine fed shotgun? Surely there must’ve been dissent by now throughout the last century
I bought my M4 because it was on sale which made it a hundred dollars more than the 1301 so I had to get the Benelli
Not putting MLOK on the handguard and using proprietary pic rails is SUCH a Benelli thing to do.
Yep huge wasted opportunity imho... They did it to make it slim and trim weight. They should have extended it 4 inches or so then it would have fit mlock probably.
The M4 IS gas operated, unlike the Benelli SBE I and II. For those interested, they should check out the Beretta 300 Patrol. If a woman in your house may have to use the shotgun in a self-defense situation, please take that into consideration. In home defense, a 20ga is more than adequate.
my feelings arent hurt i love em both
Coming from a Saiga 12 I am pretty sure neither one will disappoint.
The 1301 forend that covers the barrel is a Briley.
I only own the 1301 and I love it. And it seems a perfect shotgun for LARPing at the range, home defense, or law enforcement use.
But I suspect if I was storming Falujah I’d want the robustness of an M4.
LARPing?
@@ritzkola2302 Live Action Role Playing - i.e., pretending I'm a Tier 1 Special Forces Operator with a bad ass shotgun. Even though my last great fight was wrestling with the Cheetos bag on my sofa, trying to get it open. And the closest I've been to SF is my _Navy SEALS_ VHS tape.
@@EricDaMAJ lol thanks for the breakdown
The biggest issue I have with the M4 is you're stuck with only the "tactical" model. 1301 you could swap out the barrel to a 26" and go shoot trap with it, same gun. It's funny Benelli basically did everything to the m4 that people have been doing aftermarket for years (and yes, way more than $500. I do like the aftermarket parts more, but they're easily 2x the upgrade cost).
Where are u getting a 26" barrel for 1301 tactical? 1301 comp only comes in 24" and a400 barrels are expensive... Both dont fit the 1301 tactical, different receivers.
@@KracknCorn does the 24 inch comp barrel not fit in a tactical receiver?
@@theblishknovk comp receivers are longer
The new M4 T Pro model (Gen 2) has a fixed cylinder choke which is a deal breaker for me . The older versions of the M4 do have removable chokes and why Benelli did this to the T Pro model boggles my mind !!
Quite literally the only reason I have been held up past two months. I was on the buy page ready to order until I discovered this, and that the rail on the new LE model is not Mlok I mean come on guys! Making me seriously reconsider all options.
Benelli M4 all day, if you got a budget and can find a 1301 for around a 1000, that is a no brainer for the money, I had a 11711 np3 m4 fully decked out, sold it for the evolution = Genesis Arms 12
Weight alone settled it. I will be adding another pound to it with the beretta kick off stock because it’s gonna be loaded with BRENNEKE black magic slugs for bear so I want to alleviate that mule kick as much as possible.
Lighter! 2 pounds is a lot when having to lug it around. Mine works flawlessly.
Why not get a Mossberg 930 Tactical or Secrity, mod it with a couple OR3GUN parts, and save a ton of money? 99% of shooters will never outshoot this set up and it's rock solid.