Inside the Troconis Trial: Feb. 7, 2024 - Gumienny Takes the Stand
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This poor man. He was so used and controlled by Fotis.
How evil is it that they would sit back and watch this hard working man take the fall for their dirt work….
EVIL
Two losers.
Psychopath doesn’t care
They should both rot in hell
Sure that’s why he’s also charged, he’s such a good guy - Not!
Fotis and Michelle killed Jennifer and tried to frame Pawel. Despicable
I think this was their plan all along. Super scandalous
OMG frightening@@pattycaldwell9653
Considering the police have even said she had iron clad alibis she could not have been part of the murder. So, tell us how much of the trial you’ve actually watched, without telling us.
@dudemorris7769 Wrong choice of words. They conspired to kill Jennifer, Fotis did it, and they tried to frame Pawel. I've watched the whole trial, I am aware Michelle didn't physically kill Jennifer.
@@dudemorris7769(Zoë’s Mum)ironclad alibi??? You have obviously NOT watched everything🤷🏻♀️She was at her friend’s shop(on THE day) at one stage(hardly ironclad alibi🫣).Also Police have NEVER stated she had “ironclad alibi”. Tell us you haven’t watched EVERYTHING without telling us🙄🤭🤭
Sounds like Fodis might want to frame this guy😱
Yes he did.
Yep
Exactly 💯
OF COURSE HE GOING TO BLAME HIM!
Pawel, keep working hard and don’t let this evil ruin your life.
You are understood and believed!
This tells everyone, let no one borrow your car.
I believe everything this man say
Me too. Dulos taking this man truck while he has 4 vehicles in his position?? Come on man , take your own damn truck . They try to set this man up with Jennifer's blood in HIS truck .
@@lesant7659 Dulos also suggested that Pawel change the seats in the truck and sell the truck. Fotis also got his hair cut like Pawel and dressed in work clothes like Pawel on the day of the murder.
Me too
Me too
He definitely doesn't have a reason to lie/perjure himself. He was smart enough to get the hell outta dodge!
I watch yesterday this witness the whole declaration . He is very credible. I thought she was innocent until this witness. Now I have big doubts but looks like the evidence it’s not enough. Dulos intended to pass for this guy changing his hair cut like him while driving the Tacoma
Wow, there’s no doubt in my mind that Pawel was being framed for this murder. It takes some truly evil people to do that, especially to a loyal employee.
She knew!!! Posing alibi for him cleaning up after him. She knew!!! End the trial lock her up!!!!
The fake alibi means nothing. If anything that’s perjury they need to prove she conspired to commit murder
@@gottgaame they already have proven that she conspired.
Keep up.
@@bamazing2731 no the state didn’t. We are here for the facts not feelings. The state hasn’t found her dna on any evidence. Conspiracy is planning the murder
@@bamazing2731lol, they haven’t proven anything. So tell us how much you haven’t watched the trial, without telling us. Same reason this Pawel is guilty of trying to have his wife killed.
@@dudemorris7769 Tell Michi she won’t be water skiing in prison! 😜
She's guilty of definitely being a participant
I agree
That's why she's on trial 35 pages of evidence in her warrant means there's more coming 😢
They haven’t proven anything in all these days. There’s not even any evidence on their cell phones of messages between them about his estranged wife.
@@dudemorris7769(Zoë’s Mum) of course there was nothing on their phones 😩🙄That they were SO stupid as to drop incriminating evidence all over town -shows both their stupidity AND smugness. MT is so VERY GUILTY too. The only time she showed ANY emotion was when Police told her FD wanted to get back with Jennifer-shows her “type”- disgusting side , but FD had already replaced her with latest girlfriend(who moved in with him) - well he needed someone’s $$ as JD paid for EVERYTHING!!
God bless this man Pawel for doing the right thing. Michelle watching him delete phone messages on Pawleys phone. Why did Michelle have Pawleys keys? Poor Jennifer didn't deserve this.
How did dulos come to have his phone?????
Narcissist don’t have boundaries. They think they own their own car and you car. But you can’t never take anything from a narcissist. Like they said what is theirs is theirs but what is yours is theirs also.
@@mariapilarmeexactly!
Maybe she took keys on purpose so they would have opportunity to clean vehicle.
@@kittymartin2982yes, I that is precisely what they did. Pawel surprised them by saying he wanted his truck back on Friday, so Michelle intentionally took his keys so he couldn’t bring it home, and then she and Fotis cleaned it during the weekend.
I'm not interested in whatever self-serving PR statements are made on the courthouse steps by defense or family. Only what happens inside the courtroom is relevant to the jurors.
Thank you for continuing to cover this case. Jennifer Dulos deserves justice ❤
So Michelle said “Im gonna kill Jennifer when she shows up”. Well, she could have said that to Gumienny to make it look as if she had nothing to do with her disappearance.
To use word kill at all is telling as well as her other comment then the defense lawyer being condescending and trying to discredit this guy smh
What a great witness this can hurt Michelle tremendously
This guy was almost framed by these two
EVIL
Fotis even threatening this guy with deportation is vile
And Pawel actually worked and earned his own money.
Little Man Flotis didn’t!
Wow! This is amazing.
Never cover up for anyone about anything. You don’t know what may be behind even the most innocent of requests
Was Fotis trying to look like this guy while committing the crime?
To frame this man looking like him. He was scandalous all the way around
Yes he was
Who made him look like Pawel? Michi did by cutting his hair 😮
Michelles family knew he was married and had 5 children.and still they approved of the relationship and are sppossed to be educated. People WTH?
Killer testimony 🎉….Justice is coming Jennifer🌺🌺💯
Fotis and Michelle did it. They try to frame this guy.
He shaved his head & changed into work clothes so he would look just like his worker!
Michelle cut Fotis' hair 😮
Michelle would not harm anyone - her sister claims. That's a hilarious statement given that MT was FDs mistress for years, a guy who had 5 (!) little kids with his wife.
I would never trust a mistress and husband cheater. They become professional liars and manipulators.
Michelle planned the whole thing!
Sure they are gonna say she is not guilty she may not have killed her but she helped him and knew what happened
They have a twisted moral compass
Isn’t it something the they are shamelessly to come out and make comments like that who are they trying to convince?? You are right she was the mistress she destroyed that marriage and who knows what else!!
She knew she was always with Fotis. She knew he was a married man with 5 children! She knew Jennifer was from a wealthy family and well respected. She could have tried to prevent this horrific murder! She wanted to step right into Jennifer's place. Poor Jennifer where is her body? Justice for Jennifer, her 5 children and 88 year old mother. ⚖️⚖️⚖️ The defense says he shaved his head for skiing. It was May and very warm. 😢😪
Who would wish or benefit from Jennifer’s disappearance or death?
@vbnurs Jennifer's mom wanted the 2 million dollar loan back, Fotis wanted full custody and didn't want to pay. Michelle is a low life and has zero morals and went along with everything. She wanted to be Jennifer. So sad
Fotis and Michelle
Another Nicole Kessenger!
Fotus wanted those kids because they were going to get an inheritance. He didn't even truly care for them either.
Money was running out and he was being sued by Jennifer's mom for the millions she and Jennifer's dad loaned him.
Wow this is powerful testimony
This poor guys life turned upside down!
i love the fact that she plays as if she doesnt understand english that well. Needing an interpreter but the Nanny said she speaks english perfectly. She is shady and she knew.
It's such a ridiculous scam that she doesn't understand english!!!
I think 🤔 she only knows “selective” English-at her convenience. Then, you will see her understand some things immediately.
Pretty clear they were both in on it and planned to set this guy up
She's guilty throw away the key! This guy was the intended fall guy definetly
I agree that this was their plan to set him up. This man was no good and then turned around and killed himself
Doesn’t mean she knew about it. They know for fact that she didn’t go with him that morning and have her on multiple cameras during the time Fotis was gone. However, Pawel, definitely could have been there as he was in New Cannan that day just a few miles away from Jennifer’s house.
The whole case is very sad and disturbing
Michelle fell for Fotus' victim story that painted Jennifer as the evil ex. The question is how far did she go in fighting Fotus' battle ?
My case is similar in many ways, but I moved to undisclosed location and when I file divorce papers the court maintained my address secret. You have that option so every one to know.Then I moved out of the country. Mistress can be worse than the ex sometimes using them as an attack force. Guys are loyal to guys women are dangerous when what they are chasing it’s not a guy but a way of living in luxury.
I think SHE was the one who pushed for this & planned most of their activities
@@helendonlan4836agreed!
She wanted, her, life
I think this guy came very close to being set up for a murder.
Pawel DNA's was not anywhere in the garage or on any items in the bags. He's the owner of the Tacoma, so his DNA would be there.
God bless Pawel
Yup Dulos got his hair cut just like him so he could pin 📌 the murder on to his employee!!!! Sick just sick
Michelle's family needs to stop with the plays for sympathy. It is not helping anything and it's a very tacky, tasteless look. Michelle is not the victim here. The less attention they bring to her and themselves, the better.
Well she is a con artist even with her own family.
Agreed!!
@TiaCatR the family’s inability to hold Michelle accountable for her bad choices may explain why it seems like she became a selfish and entitled person.
They just want to appear as a close knit family.
A mom was killed in a horrible way, she has to have an idea what happened and how it happened. The family should be ashamed to come out and try to make her be what she is not
He seems traumatized by the ordeal.
If money, and fancy properties, means you may have a price on your head, il keep my 1 bed flat, and happy family life any day of the week. X
There is nothing wrong with SUCCESS. Don’t make excuses for lying down and being average.
@loveyc5228 haha that's not what I'm saying. I am happy when anyone is successful and works hard. No excuses made, The point is me not having wealth means that I am less likely to be murdered for my fortune.. I'm sure you understand this. Totally taken out of context. Money helps, unless you have a terminal illness or you are totally alone etc etc. Very silly statement. However, have a lovely evening.
@@tonifitz6831Of course. ❤Sorry for being a B. God bless you and may you have much good fortune. 💝🙏
Every socioeconomic background presents its own set of problems. Really wealthy people often always need security. There are real risks to being wealthy. Other times people try to use you, some people try to actually take money from you, some will constantly tell you to loan them money. Most people would probably want money vs not having money but every socioeconomic bracket has both its pros and cons.
Thank you
Did she really believe she would end up in a good place conspiring with a married man?
Just because Michelle tells Pawel:”….when Jennifer turns up”, does not mean that Michelle would not know about the crime. Michele could have said that to pretend as if she did not know anything about the crime.
My thoughts all along.
Their whole spiel was to act like she ran off….so they knew they had to maintain that way of thinking…
JUSTICE FOR Jennifer. Praying for her kids and the nanny. 🙇🏻♂️🩷 to be safe and strong.
How come the ENTIRE time he testified I felt like Michelle was Terrified of what might come out of his mouth?
Michelle was present with all the BS of the Tacoma. Makes a five year old question about the use of the truck. If I am innocent I would question him but she helped him. She was holding the key then they went to clean the truck.
I wonder if the dog was actually buried..and if police have searched for Jennifer where the dog is.
THIS GUY DID THE RIGHT THING BY TELLING THE TRUTH..
THE MOM DIDN'T LET THE KIDS SEE THE DOG BECAUSE SHE KNEW THE KIDS WOULD FEEL BAD, AND SHE WANTED THE KIDS TO REMEMBER THE DOG WHEN HE WAS HEALTHY...
I WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING!!
I don’t see any Troconis friends coming forward…!
Exactly 😮
Don't have any.
Has the defense began their case yet? Hmm, how much of the trial have you actually watched? None, just these media inserts? That’s what I thought.
I believe what he said
I BELIEVE HIM ALSO!!
I’m beginning to believe that Michelle was the mastermind in this murder! That’s why Doulos killed himself! He knew how many mistakes he made & they would both go down.
That's a thought...good one
Agree!
I agree with you good point she ruined marriage 😞 terrible women
@@annadembowska1160 Destroyed a family too. I have no respect for people who do this
Wow. Bye bye
- They saw this man as someone whose life they could throw away, he was unimportant 😢
Is it just me or does this anchor Shannon Miller, closely resemble Wendi Adelson?
I can see it😊
Yes ! There is a resemblance
21:04 I wouldn't call a person who has an affair thoughtful. She moved into Fotis house with her kid which is gross and not responsible to have a young girl in a home with a man you hardly know.
WHY WLD PAWEL WANT Jennifer dead?
MAYBE BECAUSE FOTIS PAYED HIM TO. WHICH DIDNT HAPPEN HERE
A Venezuelan socialite never cleans. She’s actually looking more guilty after his testimony.
State seems to have a strong case after this testimony
Why would Michelle believe that Jennifer would purposely disappear especially knowing that Fotis would jump on the opportunity to say Jennifer abandoned her children, and would then fight for custody. Jennifer would never abandon her children, NEVER.
Wow!
good work
I am just at the beginning of this video-but when the police tell her they have the bags & it is all Jennifer, Troconis says, “oh my god”-nvm the 100 stops on the way to Starbucks ⭐️-I would have been “let’s go…get moving…I want my Starbucks, unless she was just so love 💕 stricken by him?🤔🙄🤯🙈. She doesn’t ask the police, what do you mean? I would have been huh? What are you talking about-she says oh my god…like she already knew & was caught, in my opinion. That is in the first few minutes of this video alone-
21:41 could be a well planned statement to pawel, manipulators are capable of such things, maybe she knew exactly that jennifer would never "show up" again......🤔
I wouldn't read to much into this.....
I think she thought she had it made 🤔wonder what she thinks now??
This defense aťrorny just likes running the clock and hearing himself talking in circles...this poor guy on the stand is exhausted..i like this judge very much. .he tolerates a lot, but he puts a stop eventually to that attorneys BS.
Hope this guy is able to get on with his life. Pretty messed up to be almost framed for murder. Michelle's hands are full of blood.
He goes on trial next for the exact same crimes.
Justice for Jennifer Farber. Lastname Dulos belongs just to her own killer. Best Regards from Germany
If you are rich like Fotis was, you usually arent into clean up.
Why he had the all to willing Michelle to clean up 😮
Fotis wasn't rich. He used Jennifer and her family for his money/lifestyle.
She’s guilty.
Please can someone explain the significance of the car key taken out of the door of the Tacoma?
The carpenter went to go get his truck from fotus to take his dirt bike out . Now Fotus had borrowed it for a little while and when he showed up he surprised Fotus & Michelle . He asked them to follow him to drop off the vehicle he was currently in and bring him back to get his truck . Fotus went with him , Michelle stayed behind and when they got back his keys to the truck were missing . Fotus told him Michelle took them because they were not ready to let him take his truck back and to never say out loud that Michelle had taken the keys . Fotus also shaved his head to resemble this man . He was trying to frame this man for killing Jennifer
@@kathypeterson13 ok, so when he returned to retrieve his red truck, and the keys were missing, he was persuaded to allow fotis to keep the truck, longer?
@@m_christine1070 yes ! He was employed by Dulos so it was more of a I’m using it period kind of thing. He also took the truck to a car wash and cleaned the inside of it . He then tried to get him to agree to sell it to Dulos as well . This guy just placed Michelle at the possible scene of burial ? He said it was one of many construction sites that Dulos owned .
@@kathypeterson13 oh! Ok. Do you mean that prior to Jimmyummys testimony today, Michelle had denied being with Fotis that day? Omg if this is what happened, then she's going to be convicted. I still dont believe she participated in the murder, i think he told her they got into an arguement and jennifer ended up dead by accident and to please help him clean up the crime scene (the night prior,while he buried or disposed of, the body, or something. I think he had help from his lawyer mulwhinney. They may have had some kind of pact to jointly kill their wives. I'm very surprised at the timing that they had broken up(michelle and fotis); i would have thought they might immediately marry, so that she couldnt be forced to testify against him.
@@kathypeterson13 and so, Friday is when Jennifer first went missing? Thank you so much, by the way❤️🙂. I've been spamming my initial question in every chat today! Lol! And everyone just ignored it. But if i asked any different kind of question, then people would respond
I wish I believed Michelle's family. However, I'm not sure that Fotis never told Michelle
Yes I am like you. I thought she was innocent until this witness she was present with all the BS of the Tacoma
@@mariapilarme I STILL don't think she knew. Fotis (I believe) sent MT a text and saying that the keys are in the door of the Tacoma, can you quickly grab them? I Think Fotis played both of them - Fotis acted alone. He played everyone.
I think MT families are posting on this platform
@@judygutierrez4309 - Then I will let them know that I BELIEVE HER! I believe MT is innocent.
@@wephotogal I think the same.
no audio.......ooops lol
Living with the cowardly Dulos for years, after taking a shower together, he suggested, Hey, let's get a coffee after I toss black garbage bags, filled with my wife's bloody clothing in public trash cans. Of course, she knew what was in the bags. Then another evil & cowardly act, falling asleep in his garage with the engine running.
Why can't she do the right thing and tell her family where Jennifer is😢. So sad!!😢😢
Because then she would be guilty, she made her family and daughter believe she was inocent.
Pawel is a good man. I believe he didn't have anything to do with Jennifer's demise. It's very clear that Fotis used him, and possibly tried to set him up. I wish him peace and happiness.
NOW we are getting as to the WHY she was ever indicted...wow, i believe every word. I also believes he knows a whole lot more too. So sad
I think defense missed something here. Just because Dulos said Traconis had the keys doesn’t mean she actually did. He could have been holding them. That’s what I noticed at least.
Exactly, he could have taken the keys himself while standing there. Why didn’t Pawel take the keys right then?? Sketchy & he lied up to the point that Fotis died.
@@dudemorris7769 The fact that her defense didn’t push back on her taking the keys though makes me think maybe she did take them. But it was a missed moment. I don’t think the state has proven this case but looking at comments it seems the has been convicted in the media.
I wondered what Fotis told him why he was using his truck.
He is a funny man the way he talks of what Fotis told him to do with writing his activities down for the day.
Yellin' Timber
Omg this witness rather genuin
No thanks I got a lot to do today .. I was going to ask if you wanted a movie day today.. 👍🎶😉
He probably wanted to send his family back to poland because he knew it could come down on him, and he wanted his family safe.
I don't understand about the car key in the passenger door
He saw the key and when Fotus followed him to drop off the other vehicle and came back to get his truck from Fotus the keys were not missing! Michelle was with the truck the entire time . Fotus appears to have been trying to look like this witness , used his truck shaved his head to look like him from afar etc . The key is significant in this testimony
@@kathypeterson13 i must be completely dumb, because i dont understand ehy thats suspicious. Maybe Muchelle removed the key so that nobody would break into the truck.
@@kathypeterson13 oh! Did fotis at some point first tell Gummiammy that they didnt have the keys to his red pickup?
I don’t understand why MT had the key to an employee’s 2001 Toyota Tacoma, no justification…
I believe Pawel. He is not involved.
That said all the threats Dulos made against this man sound 100% in line with a sociopath.
I believed this man. When he asked, "Can I use bad words?", I knew he was being honest.
There's an innocence in the question alone.
Sounded like Fotis was trying to look like his employee maybe to frame him.
Why do news anchors talk so funny?
I cant take them serious. 😂😂😂
About what he told Fotis about his haircut and Fotis wanting to look like him.
He was beleiveable fotis set him up he was honest about mitchelle after jennifer let her stay in her mansion while she went to rent a house mitchelle was so ungrateful
Her family's comments are not interesting!
Anyone who murdered would have received scratch marks on theirs bodies which I imagine the police when arresting them would have made pictures. Of their hands.
This is the most damaging testimony I’ve heard so far against Michelle.
Sorry but I don’t believe that he’s telling the whole truth. He lied to the cop’s multiple times and only after Fotis was dead did his stories change, multiple times. He can’t remember what he said, but he can remember what other people said at 19mins. I don’t believe him at all. If you can remember so vividly what Fotis & Michelle said, but can’t remember what you said in that moment, not believing his words.
So why he kill himself if she hiding 🤬🤬🤬
Looking like she knew, something
Very nice presenter. She has "something", kind of charisma.
She has acted like she is guilty as sin from the beginning
She's guilty as charged & her family members are naïve to the facts but I'm sure they are thinking along the line that she is guilty
Now i know how he got that guts to kill her because the girlfriend gave him the balls