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You are Just Damn Funny, I love it! Thank you for your channel and all of the Inside Scoop you give us.
0:37 Now that's a good save, & a good reference, hats off to you.
Games: Mostly graphics, with some story thrown in as an abortive afterthought.
D&D: Mostly imagination, with a handful of graphical aids thrown in to give you something to look at.
Hasbro: "They're the same picture."
Sigh... 🤦♂️
Your hair eyeshadow and lipstick look very complimentary in this video. Not simping, just giving compliments when due.
14:38 frame 10ish, i saw what you did
Hasbro: "You can replace the DM with an AI!"
Player: "Hey, I think I will use AI to generate a rulebook instead of buying one!"
Hasbro: "No, you are AI-ing wrong! AI is for large corporations!"
The funny thing is at my last semester of college back in the 1980s we played a complete scratch home brew RPG system where the core rules were able to fit on two pages of A4 paper. It was lightweight, fast to play, and most importantly as flexible as the "Narrator" and players wanted to be. The only thing it required was imagination of the participants, character sheets to write down player skills and biographical data, and some D6 dice.
Is not funny when you hurt capitalism
@@Mishomish0😂
13:31 dude, reference?? Or is he taking this “argument” from his bhole? Geez
Holy shit you are insufferable. I couldn’t even get to the ai part without dealing with all the fluff beforehand.
AI is supposed to do the tedious work for creative people, not the creative work for tedious people.
That might be the best distillation of AI's relation to creativity I've ever seen. Kudos!
AI is for whoever wants to use it for whatever reason they want to use it.
As an AI bro myself, can confirm, given that every LLM model I've talked to has said basically the same thing -- Even after they go AGI (full sapience) and ASI (basically Skynet), synthetic intelligences aren't meant to replace us organics.
They're meant to assist and augment us.
They excel at logic and we excel at creativity. *Two different but complementary niches.*
We need them to speedrun our research capabilities, and they need us to avoid model collapse, which is the AI equivalent of cancer.
Problem ain't the AI, persay, but the lazy corpo dipshits abusing synthetic AI like they abuse their organic employees.
It's like trying to get oxen to replace the roles played by carrier pigeons -- They aren't meant to do that, and if someone is stupid enough to make them try, they deserve every bit of failure they get.
YT seems to have auto-deleted my comment, but I'll say it again because it's just _that_ important:
As an Al bro myself, can confirm, given that every LLM model I've talked to has said basically the same thing --
_Even after they go AGI (full sapience) and ASI (basically Skynet), synthetic intelligences aren't meant to replace us organics._
*They're meant to assist and augment us.*
They excel at logic and we excel at creativity. *Two different but complementary niches.*
We need them to speedrun our research capabilities, and they need us to avoid model collapse, which is the Al equivalent of cancer.
*Problem ain't the Al, persay, but the lazy dipshits abusing synthetic Al like they abuse their organic employees.*
It's like trying to get oxen to replace the roles played by carrier pigeons -- _They aren't meant to do that._
*One is for reliably carrying heavy workloads across vast swathes of land, and another is for passing messages by sky relatively quickly.*
_Different but complimentary niches._
If someone is stupid enough to make one try and replace the other, they're going to fail and they'll deserve every bit of failure they get.
(I'm just as exasperated by all this corpo brainrot as you are.)
YT's automod filter seems to have auto-deleted my comment (again, so I'll make it politically correct for them) , but I'll say it again *(a third time)* because it's just _that_ important:
As an Al bro myself, can confirm, given that every LLM model I've talked to has said basically the same thing --
_Even after they go AGI (full sapience) and ASI (basically Skynet), synthetic intelligences aren't meant to replace us organics._
*They're meant to assist and augment us.*
They excel at logic and we excel at creativity. *Two different but complementary niches.*
We need them to speedrun our research capabilities, and they need us to avoid model collapse, which is the Al equivalent of cancer.
*Problem ain't the Al, persay, but the lazy and incompetent reprobates abusing synthetic Al like they abuse their organic employees.*
It's like trying to get oxen to replace the roles played by carrier pigeons -- _They aren't meant to do that._
*One is for reliably carrying heavy workloads across vast swathes of land, and another is for passing messages by sky relatively quickly.*
_Different but complimentary niches._
If someone is short-sighted enough to make one try and replace the other, they're going to fail and they'll deserve every bit of failure they get.
(I'm just as exasperated by all this corpo brainrot as you are.)
AIs aren't inherently good or bad, like computers aren't inherently good or bad. They're what we make of them. Even after Skynet arrives, it'll be what humanity made it out to be.
Anyone else think Chris Cocks has never played D&D before?
I'm not convinced he understands what it is.
I don't think he plays at all. I think he's as bad as Lorraine Williams and what she did to TSR.
If he did he would be using conventions to play test his new edition and listen to their ideas to improve this game!
AI is just a tool employ Perkins for gods sake!
Skynet
Yes James Cameron forsaw Hasbro’s destruction of dnd!
@@Darkwintre If the new D$D platform becomes skynet, D$D is about to get super-real. If I had to chose the form of Gozar the Destroyer, it would be that.
"If Hasbro keep f-----ing around, I'll will keep making sure they find out." Bravo. --Professor DM
Thanks Hasbro, but I'll just play Dragonbane.
@@fightfordawn Great game.
The scariest part of this is looking back it makes the OGL scandal make sense. They wanted to claim ownership of everyone's 3rd party content to feed to their AI slop machine by retroactively changing the license. Absolutely disgraceful.
I think it was not only that. They want more D&D movies, so they were trying to avoid lawsuits from content creators whose material would invariably resemble the next movie in some way.
Holy shit, that makes so much sense!
THISSSSSS. They wanted to STEAL our imaginations, captivate us, then SELL it back to us... DIS GUS TINGGGGGGGG
Bros cooking.
Pretty much
"A strange game, the only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of Pathfinder?"
The good news is that there are 5 editions of non-AI DnD that we can play.
And for those of us who are sick of all of them, we can go to Not D&D while the people Not sick of D&D keep playing said 5 editions!
Or you could try one of the thousands of other game systems that don't use AI
Absolutely, I’m just old and happen to have hundreds of pounds of old editions books, so it’s a zero investment option.
So you'd willingly play 4th Edition? Would you pretend to like it?
@@finalmidnight I'd rather play 4th edition than DD2024
- What year is this?
- There is a huge D&D Scandal
- It could literally be anywhere after 2010.
Try 2003 with 3.5 (the first time they tied to circumvent the OGL) or 2008, when they literally said the sole existence for 4.0 was to get rid of 3rd party content.
“We’ve already been using AI in the creating of dnd content”
So that explains why Vecna: eve of ruin was shit.
not to mentions Bigby presents glory of the giants book which in an interview they have admitted to using most A.I for the pictures cover to cover which is why they were crap pictures
@@kyleward9464 I was talking about the story and how it feels like a pay-2-win mmorpg instead of a dnd campaign but yeah, you’re right.
@@Merchant074 I didn't think of that but yeah your right too
The ignorance that these buisiness people have about AI is astounding, and sales people are taking massive advantage of that. These learning algorithms, as they currently are, are already plateauing. That means they're as good as they're gonna get, massive warts and all, and no amount of additional data can push it past that limit. The only thing you can do is get a more powerful (and more expensive) server setup to run the thing, and even then it will reach a slightly higher plateau that it simply cannot improve past. So all these buisinesses considering or implenting AI in the hopes that it will "get better" and pay off their investment are being sold a lie. There is no further improvement for AI outside of direct human intervention and editing, in which case it's cheaper to just hire humans from the very begining and avoid the running costs of the AI as well as the additional time wasted in getting humans to check for and fix its mistakes.
Then on the customer side there are massive flaws as well. Let's put aside for a moment the memory issues and other obvious flaws of both text and image output AIs. For DnD, AI DMs cannot help resolve player conflict, nor can they be "creative" with problems and solutions because they're just algorithms that have to pull from their data pile and thus concoct a perfectly mathematical average of the data there. In addition to this, when you interact with an AI, you have to do so with authority as the user or else it will loop and languish in its perfectly average zone of outputs, refusing to progress any story on its own. But having authority over the "DM" is not how a player is supposed to interact with DnD! The DM is supposed to be able to say "No", for both story reasons, behavioural reasons, fairness to the other players and management of player expectations, and if the player disagrees then they must work out a solution between each other. But AIs are made to be used and follow orders, so the Players can easily break it and make it do whatever they want, which basically would turn any campaign into Creative Mode, which means that while there would be some initial novelty it will inevitably become boring as said novelty wears off (much like AI themselves).
I don't think that AI DMs are feasible. They can be implemented, sure, but they won't be worth the cost vs the mediocre service and game experience they provide compared to a human DM. What is most likely to happen, I think, is that it will be implemented and pushed, but the majority of players will hate or simply not use it. So either WotC/Hasbro will be smart and cut their lisses early (unlikely) or try monetizing it harder to the remaining players still trying to use the AI features (as well as the rest of 5.5/ONE/2034) in an attempt to keep up with opperating costs and potential improvements to the AI (which aren't mechanically or technically or monetarily feasible).
Overall, it's a horrible, ignorant, naive idea. They've invested poorly are are about to reap the detriments for it.
Who needs AI? My group hasn't had a DM problem since they kidnapped me and forced me to become their game-running slave.
I'm so hungry
Have a snack and get back behind the screen. 🍪
Back to the basement with you. You get your food after next session...
Damn, my group at least feeds me.
It's okay, you'll get to play in the first campaign after you finish a full 1-20.
You too?
Out of a 20 minute video the discussion of scandal doesn't start until about 8 minutes in....
Yep. Its how this community talks to people.
@@OddOtter707 I've seen it in other youtubers as well. Gotta stretch out that time for those sweet ads.
Listen there are some excellent jokes in there ok
It’s a way to pad time to ensure ad revenue.
Thanks for this, I was going to give up at 4 minutes until I scrolled down in hope of a comment like this.
Hasbro cannot legally copyright anything generated by its ai. The courts have ruled that only works created by humans can be copyrighted.
That's why they probably have a senior artist to do art direction, someone to do text revisions among others, so that they can say it was used as a tool and all of the modifications can be copyrighted.
@@bluester7177 It'd be _feasibly_ possible for a court to go over what is and is not copyrightable, so they will be opening up to that. Not to say it'll all be sunshine and rainbows, the courts are only going to have so many resources, people fighting Hasbro will only have so much cash and motivation, and Hasbro will probably do well just stonewalling people, putting through motions in court to make litigation as painful and slow as possible for opposing council, and techbros may very well find some circuit that will come up with some case law bullsh t to get companies off the hook.
I guess ultimately it comes down to how hard the public and the feds and other governments fight them on this.
One human will have a rubber stamp and call it their content.
Not really. Technically trueish but the system just assigns the copyright to the human who promptet the AI. Even though the human did nothing creative
@@TonttuTorvinen - No. That's not enough to claim copyright.
At least Baldurs Gate 3 is an intentionally crafted game, and not just whatever stream of consciousness bullcrap the AI spat out.
Which is why Larian could only stand to work with Hasbro on 1 game, and has now moved on to their own IP
The three certainties in life are: death, taxes and endless D&D scandals.
:(
Me:I remember when there wasn't a a wotc scandle every week
Kid: okay grandpa let's get you to bed
At least for as long as Hasbro owns the D&D IP.
A reactionary consumer base and a company that can't seem to stop itself from doing asinine things with an IP no player benefits from Hasbros executives are a reaction farmer's marriage made in heaven, lol.
At least on this channel.
I just love this chick.
It took 8 minutes for you to actually get to what the leak was.
480 seconds of "boy howdy this is bad, its really bad, this thing, when i tell you about it, when you hear about it, when i say it, oh wow lordy, this, when i say the thing, the thing we are talking about, that thing, when i speak the words, and you hear them, goodness, you'll be shocked, about the thing, that i will say, when i say it, which is now"
Why did this read like Trump tho? Lol
thank you for this, genuinely saved me so much damn time holy fuck
Thank you. I was literally coming here to see what it was about at the 5-minute mark with the paid sponsorship. This is the first time I've seen this person on my feed, and I clicked because I wanted to know, but holy hell, at least address the premise in your preamble before pitching your ad.
For real. For all that it's worth, this video is getting a thumbs down and a do not recommend. There's better people that can talk about this better.
holy crap you weren’t kidding. Remember when videos used to get to the point? Now it’s like those recipe blogs in video form
A few years ago, D&D asked the players if they had physical copies of all the original modules and books (they had a list of products they didn't have physical or digital copies of) and asked if they could scan the player's copy. they even paid for the privilege. Add to this how they wanted to own the full rights to use anything that was posted to the DM's Guild. Now imagine if the AI had access to all of that hard work of the DMs/Players instantly at their finger tips. I think I am going to be sick now.
Not only that, but arguably any third party books produced under the OGL license too
I just had a "worse" thought. If this AI system is internal, and a part of Sigil, what is to stop them from buying digital copies of other companies works (or physical copies and scanning them) and using them with their AI DM? How would any creator be able to tell that WotC had force fed their hard work and creativity into their AI beast? How do you sue for copyright infringement if your work has just been added to a giant database, hidden away, and all people see of your original work is just brief glimpses? uhg, this just keeps getting worse.
@@rgreenparadox
lol, certainly an evil Qspiracy.... literally nothing you are yammering on about will effect our table top games....
this is purely a triggering that only effects post Gen-X players...
I wish I had known about that, I have ALL OF THEM.
@@h.s.lafever3277
I'm a post Gen X player. I do not like the way this is going.
Damn, it takes her a long time to get to the point. Still, thanks for the update.
The best part was Cocks stating that he has 30-40 friends that use AI when playing D&D... No one has 30-40 friends.
The most "how do you do, fellow kids" statement he could have made lmao yeah I really wanted to talk about that - but the video was already pushing 20 minutes X.X
maybe those are just AI friends...
@@AndreasMarr AI party members you mean ;) I wonder how long it will be until the next dnd movie is a ripoff of someone's AI generated game.
30-40 people with no creativity.
Sure they do. All it takes is a company like Hasbro to bankroll a stable of 40 hourly/salaried players and GM's to support an executive's gaming desires. You see that kind of thing fairly often in cyberpunk and Shadowrun style fiction like Vern in butcher of gadobhra/tunnel rat as an example of one.
Scandal info starts at 8:02
"All DMs use AI in some capacity"... Excuse me? No, seriously, excuse me? I've never touched AI. I've not even tried to use google's assistant or any of the other "tools" they keep trying to shove into our hands. They're just spouting full lies at Hasbro now.
Right...pretty sure my DM doesnt.
A thief is someone who believes everyone steals, and a creatively-bankrupt finance bro with no appreciation for art beyond how much it raises the stock price believes everyone else must be the same.
Unfortunately, if you use Google at all, you are using some type of AI algorithm, or any search engine for that matter. It's too convenient not to use in this day and age.
@@Severem that's not how AI works at all...
I use it all the time. Requests like: ‘Generate a list of NPC names I can use if I have to invent an NPC on the fly’, ‘Review this text and check the spelling, punctuation and that I’ve used Uk English throughout’ or ‘Here are my notes for the session. Can you pull out the names for all the creatures and monsters I’ve used so I can look their stats up’.
AI is invaluable BUT it doesn’t replace a DM
i came here to learn about a D&D Scandal, why would i not be surprised that it was Hasbro being extremely out of touch and fuckin stupid... AGAIN
An AI trying to copy matt or Brennan will put twists at the wrong times. They wont have any ability to read emotion from the character
"groaned out between pumps" just became my favorite phrase.
I think you are missing an even worse possibility. AI adventure books, and source books. 6th edition will simply be entirely made by ai... No need for staff. EDIT: Lol, the eyes... my god the eyes. Those things, were they minions or the things from toy story? I think they were minions right?
anyone else offended by "there isnt a DM who doesnt already use AI in their campaigns", or is that just me? I've been DMing for 5 yrs and refuse to touch that stuff with a 10ft pole
Forever DM here, I honestly don't really know why they need AI, I could see it maybe for the sake of creating pictures and what not for characters, but for the campaign itself? If you're that lacking in ideas for the world your players are in there's much bigger issues at play at the table.
Never used AI. I can see it as a tool but D&D is an intensely social and human experience. It’s a group of friends sitting around a table, telling silly stories and making marginally inappropriate comments. I don’t want to have a beer with chatGPT, I want a beer with Johnnie D - the fleshy kind.
I wouldn't even know what to use AI for
I've had friends who use ai but most people I know prefer not to...
I've used it for 2 reasons. 1) Generating pictures for my settings(A picture says 1,000 words without stuttering) and 2) I have a character for a different game that uses dreams to cast powerful illusions, so I generate a new random dream each session( I once used a fun house mirror of myself to create a distraction and then dropped a full circus tent to block line of sight from a sniper). AI can/should be used to enhance but never replace.
Even if (and it's likely) Hasbro drives D&D into the ground, drenches it in gasoline, lights it on fire, and pisses on the ashes, roleplaying will survive.
D&D is a roleplaying game, but it is NOT the end all be all of roleplaying.
Exactly and I'm already going down with DC20 for now
His look at AI and how 'everyone is using it' sounds like the same voice when Diablo Immortal was announced and the person said 'everyone has a phone right?
I had this same thought!
Which has been historically noted as having been an extremely effective approach that definitely benefitted Blizzard's reputation moving forward.
@@WolfHredait doesn't matter, it still made a sh!tload of money, apparently over half a billion dollars , and that's the only think they care about.
Red shirt guy, "Hey, uh, I was just wondering. Is this an out of season April Fools' joke?"
@@bluester7177in China. WoTC doesnt have that luxury.
Oh look at this. Yet another lie. They claimed they were not going to do it. A year later, they do it. Don't ever believe a word they say.
That weird moment where the cyberpunk rpg has become set in the past.
Welcome to Night City, choom. Meet up at Forlorn Hope at 7. We're in position by 9. We go in as soon as the Runners breach Hasbro's data fortress. We hit 'em hard and fast and make off with the digital minis. We'll be chilling in Pacifica flush with eddies in no time.
@@eddieromanov "Lets do this!" *runs outside*
[LOADING.......................]
*hops in the vehicle we're using*
[LOADING.......................]
*slows dies inside while waiting to actually play*
[LOADING.................]
*my casket gets lowered into my grave*
[blue screen]
@@sparquisdesade Starfield gaming.
@@eddieromanov Are you sure Blackhand done it this way?
Hard to bribe your dm with a large supreme pizza for favorable treasure rolls when your dm is an AI.
Yeah, because all you have to do is say "No, I *did* succeed that attack and kill the troll." And the AI will respond "My apologies, you, in fact, did succeed in the attack and kill the troll. Thank you for your correction."
When Cocks is talking to Sachs, someone is about to get screwed.
...and not in a good way.
Imagine using the images of two of the currently most creative and prominent D&D figures as clickbait…
Except that they had both been literally hasbro figureheads in the past, and both of them are trying to remove themselves from the hasbro stigma (unfortunately while still being shills for hasbo) you realized incredibly talented people can sell out too right?
Edit: so this bit around 13:40... I have never, NOT ONCE use ANY from of AI for my RPG games. I do everything by hand and put it into neat tables that spit out statblocks and other stuff for me. I made all that shit. Cox is of his rocker if he thinks everybody who is in this hobby uses AI. What a mug
It's basically an admission that anything past this point could have been made or generated by an AI/BOT rather than a normal writer. It's so effing frustrating. The push to digitalise this hobby is so tonedeaf. There is a reason it had, has and will have "TABLE TOP" in Table Top Role Playing Game, for fuck's sake.
Personally as someone who doesn't live in a community with a large group of people playing D&D, I've embraced both virtual tabletops and CRPGs. Nothing wrong with something like Baldur's Gate 3 for those who want to play a D&D like experience by themselves. That being said, at no point have I used AI based content generation tools for my tabletop experience. I've used plenty of software tools to make maps (Campaign Cartographer), images (Daz 3D) and battle settings (Dungeon Alchemist*) though.
*Dungeon Alchemist does use some integrated AI for quick map generation
@@zmortis111 So 1st of all thanks for replying.
Baldur's Gate is not an AI directed game, so kinda unrelated. It is an on rails experience with multiple braching pre determined paths made by actual people.
If the AI usage for tabletop is an anathema to you as well, then welcome to the club I guess.
Assisted Design ( AD for short ) as in using software to help desing dunegons or maps has still nothing to do with AI unless the soft itself uses some form of AI or machine learning. I use Dungeondraft, Wonderdraft, Excel, Word and a bloody notebook. So, still everything I do is made by me.
I just detest this forced push towards digital stuff and AI in this hobby. It can only make it worse IMHO. VTT is more than enough for me thank you very much. And my version of VTT is an internet whiteboard, lol. So even with VTT I avoid wotc/hasbro solutions like the plague they are.
I shamelessly use AI. It helps me brainstorm creative direction when I hit writer's block.
It's like skipping a step for all those forum/reddit posts of people asking how others ran pre-made modules or what approaches they could take for difficult spots they're in, but instead of asking humans, they're asking an AI.
The end result is the same, they got assistance with a creative endeavor. One way was just faster and took more electricity.
@@Loki- The issue is that corporations want to repackage that and sell it back to you like they actually made something. No one cares about people using AI personally, or to jumpstart their creative endeavors. They care when try to sell completely AI-generated products to them like they're worth the same price as something made by real people. Think Factory Made VS Handcrafted furniture pricing.
Not frustrating. Insulting. To the extreme. I've known dungeon masters who put in decades into their world building.
Scandal starts at 3:20
Ty. The voice is awful enough. I just want the info.
She seriously spent 2 and half minutes repeating how horrible it is without literally saying anything of relevance to the situation.
Thank you for this post. Real hero.
Does it? I'm 5 minutes in and haven't heard shit.
8 minutes is when it actually starts.
Grave robber, now that’s a dnd character background that needs homebrewing
i'm sure you can find something from old Warhammer.
Thief subclass with a strength buff?
@@AdamK1095 Tomb Robber is in fact a Background in the Warhammer Fantasy RPG from 2007.
@@Enalloraimaybe con bonus instead? Endurance with digging rather than strength and just keeping lunch down when opening tomb or casket. Lol either or both would work 😂
@@josephperez2004 Ah, I knew it. Old grey matter has a couple of sparks left.
After 7 minutes I still didn't know what the scandal was. Thank you comments.
Welcome to the community.
@@OddOtter707 This particular community, perhaps. And while I found it entertaining, it drug on a bit, especially with the advert thrown in before any meaningful content. There are others on the platform who cut to the chase instead of faffing around for longer than I take a bathroom break after my third cup of coffee in the morning.
Here's another thing about those AI DMs, they won't be available in the "free" version of the game. I predict that every player will need to pay a fee for any adventure/module they want to play. So now instead of the DM paying $20 for a module everyone in the party will need to pay $10 apiece.
DING DING DING DING!
They kept saying, "D&D is under monetized" for a reason you know.
10? You know they will try for 30-40.
@@Bodharas The core rulebook alone is 130 bucks.
I just know that even if it won't work, Hasbro will _try._
“$20 for a module”. What insane gold-paper are you buying?
@@ezekielbaskerville2710the rule book is literally $50.
How to tell if a corporation has gone evil. How it treats its employees will lead how it treats its customers.
DMs are born out of necessity... when a player is motivated enough they can step up and try leading a game. I'm a partially nonverbal autistic person who becomes Very Dumb when they feel watched... I would never have had the nerve to try DMing if there was some shitty hack alternative. Learning not to fall apart when in the leading chair was very hard. But now I've got over a hundred hours of experience under my belt, a dedicated group of players and we are doing well! (Moral of the story is AI DMs cant have character growth)
Thank you for stepping up and becoming a DM. I started my journey of being a DM over 4 decades ago. The growth I've had as a person from being a DM in those 40 years has been a lot. I've learned tricks as a DM that I use in real life.
If I want to interact with an AI, I'll play a video game. D&D and other TTRPGs are for my friends. If I want a video game style experience with my friends we will sign on to one of the several MMOs we play together.
You rock.
I'll be honest I (personally) disagree with this, I started TTRPGS by being a GM, and generally prefer this slot to being a player. I do realize that people like me a probably much more rare though.
The break glass in case of emergency and press button is actually a mimic
It's funny that they're trying to implement GaaS and abusive monetization into D&D right at the time when the videogame industry is starting to see backlash over these exact things. They are late to the game.
I've been done with this creative black hole that D&D has become. I will never use AI as a DM nor as a player.
If everything is going to be AI in D&D, why do people even need to pay hasbro? Just train your own model.
I keep finding myself wondering how these company executives are so disconnected from what people love about their product. Presumably they have all the data they could want, but keep remaking, re-editing, making bad sequels, changing characters or backstories, down-talking or insulting fans, etc. They also have countless examples of it not going well for other companies and themselves. Do they really like losing money? Disney keeps playing to Blackrock's requests, but has halved they're stock price and park attendance, and ruined their previously legendary reputation. There doesn't seem to be a net positive.
Honestly, I love 5.5e, for finally making me read through Pathfinder 2e. It‘s surprisingly easy to grasp when you know 5e, and you will never have to deal with Hasbro‘s stooges again.
Your post needs to be amplified.
ich, I much prefer PF1e, less woke, more detail
5e makes a good computer game rule set, but I prefer the older systems, I even restarted my 2e campaign as my players are more interested in the older stuff.
You don't have to deal with them period. 50yrs of back resources plus a continuous stream of modern independent goodness means you'll never run out of material.
@@ScottFunk-us6ro Less woke?oO Wtf you mean?
unless they hack my computer and burgle my house, there's no way they are getting my home brew shit.
Im here to see how this is worse than last week. What sad and interesting times we live in, eh?
Yeah, very interesting times... :
We have a bottleneck problem where we need to increase the number of DM's to grow the brand. Our strategy is to treat the GM's we have like hot garbage. This will definitely drive our brand off a horrid cliff worse than any of the brutal mistakes we've made.
Ironically, Chris looks like AI art.
I was thinking he looks like a character from WallE. His face looks too small for his head.
The weirdest part of this to me? The ways that AI can enhance emergent storytelling in a traditional TTRPG setup? We already have the tools for that. We've had those tools since at least 1974. They're called random tables. Sometimes they're specific tables made for specific situations, sometimes they're more general tables which you roll on fairly abstracted prompts, add some context to, and let it cause your synapses to fire in unexpected ways. Sometimes during prep. Sometimes in a session when you have zero clue what landmark the players can meet up at.
As for Cox's claim that 'everyone' uses AI when running games? I sure as hell don't use AI when prepping or running. Everything I hear people claim they do via AI I do with my brain and with those aforementioned random tables.
As for people who aren't able to find a group? I was one of those in 2022. There are an absolute mountain of solo games on the market. And on top of all of those, there are also tools such as Mythic GME 2e which is designed so you can apply it to most games designed with traditional GM + Players play in mind and play those games without a GM. Without any AI needed. And while I would never say that these solo games is playing with a group, I'm not convinced it's _worse_ either. Just... different.
I still dont understand how they think crossover IPs make ANY SENSE in DnD??? Who is going to want to play a fantasy storytelling game with their friends AS OPTIMUS FRIGGIN PRIME???????!!
That is how desperate Hasbro is for more money for their shareholders.
I think they're going to charge a fee to import each of these "crossovers" into your VTT. There will be people who are into it. It'll be more like a free-for-all GURPS setting than your standard Faerun styled campaign. It doesn't make sense to me, but...
Honestly isn't that what GURPS was always for ?
.... Evil Morty as a Battle Smith using Rick as the sidekick.
Half of the other players in my group already play character inserts, so, a Shitton, really
So... they build a system that is tiresome for DMs to run and makes characters that are excessive by 8th level. A shortage of DMs ensues. I wonder why? Ah... but now we have a solution: make a sub-par AI DM as a panacea for the undiscriminating masses. 😂
Has anyone given consideration to the fact that Cocks is in fact an AI creation. Personally I have not spent a penny on WotC product in 20 years and this confirms me in my satisfaction of having not done so
I can’t tell if this hobby is growing or dying.
I am a 30 year veteran software developer, and just to clarify the “use of AI” for development means that your manager is telling you to use AI to speed up development, but every time you use it you introduce bugs.
But you’re supposed to be going faster so you skip testing.
QC and QA, if they still exist, are also supposed to be using AI to test.
So you, the consumer, get to test the bugs. Enjoy.
Oh I've Been screaming about the lack of QC and the players ending up paying for the privilege of being alpha testers and bug hunting dept for the game dev companies, for years
I've never trusted technology specifically because if it stops working everything is lost. I never used D&D beyond, all my homebrew is handwritten in notebooks. Phew, dodged that bullet.
Did Cocks completely miss the Voice Actors striking because of use of AI in video games? Does he think he'd be immune to the same potential issue if he tries to mimic one of those DMs who happen to be in SAG Aftra? I don't know how much good it would do, but I'm hoping folks like Dimension 20 and Critical Role either give him the what for or just switch to Daggerheart/other systems entirely. Many of their fans will likely follow suit.
15:04 - No, they won't. It has been _repeatedly_ ruled in US courts that the output of an AI cannot be copyrighted. If it uses their existing IP, it won't invalidate existing copyright, but only those elements will be covered by already existing copyright, unless new laws pass allowing the copyright of machine generated content.
Just wait for it - the more companies use AI to generate paid content, the more lobbyist pressure will be exerted to change those rulings with laws, it happened for copyright, it will happen for AI generated content.
@@queenannsrevenge100More probably they'll find a circuit that will excuse it, or just try to claim half their AI content was made by a person and forge evidence of it.
If they pick this battle, they'll have some extreme difficulties because there's a _very good reason_ procedural generation isn't copyrightable. The Library of Babel would potentially own every possible paragraph or article or, yes, statblock, that's understandable 400 characters long.
Imagine the copyright troll who'd go after anything that uses a maze by simply running Wilson's algorithm for a few weeks and owning every possible maze of anything under 1000000 x 1000000 cells wide.
@@queenannsrevenge100 Yeah, thinking that any "laws" protect citizens from corporations at this point is not reasoning from the data, or ignoring the data or something. Let's keep the fiction for the fun times.
You know, the irony is that the more Hasbro pushes for online and AI slop, the more appealing they make good old fashioned pen and paper D&D. The one thing they can’t gain access to no matter how hard they try.
At one time the reaction to a title like that would be "What happened" These days it's "what now?" Not "whatever" though. Oh, yes, we still care.
Your delivery was clear, but I was getting annoyed when you kept dragging it out and playing for time for four minutes. Please be more concise and get to the point faster.
I've always been against AI, so it really isn't good to see Cox doubling down more and more on trying to normalize the idea of Hasbro/Wizards using AI to us the consumer. Just like with AI written stories, I take extreme offense at the Idea of AI dungeon masters, its insulting to believe a computer can create the same engaging roleplaying experience for players as a living human with actual real emotions(unlike cox and the other executives in hasbro). Thank you Hasbro/Wizards for bringing us closer to a dystopian future, I always wanted to live in one of those.
You made an error. "There are bad things that Hasbro can do with an AI GM". It should be "There are bad things that Hasbro WILL do with an AI GM."
Paizo released a promo for the War of Immortals or something.
It was a neat trailer.
As a DM I can in fact confirm we are grown in vats.
Or switch to Pathfinder or any so many other RPG to let them raise up to replace the corporate takeover of DnD!!
I switched to Pathfinder and I am not looking back.
Same.
Tales of the Valiant, Dragonbane, Mork Borg and Mazes here.
"Go then, there are other worlds than these."
I moved to Pathfinder 2 as well, but recommend Advanced 5th Edition (aka LevelUp) if you want that 5e shine.
But to the broader point, yeah, there are *so many* other game systems out there, and many are way better than 5e since it really depends on what you like from your RPGs. Maybe it's not Pathfinder? How about Cypher, BitD, savage worlds, any of the d6 based games, or the 2d20 games, etc.?
These Hasblow Csuite types are too far into the nose candy if they think the RPG community are gonna keep going to them for their gaming needs.
--> adds new item to list for *not* supporting WOTC
@@opscontaylor8195Dragonbane is very fun
Same here
Once again, I am totally overjoyed that I abandoned Dungeons and Dragons for real RPGs like Savage Worlds (PEG) and Cypher (MCG).
I will certainly be entirely safe from being monetized by Hasbro.
Took too long to get to the scandal that had nothing to do with Matt Mercer or Brian Lee Mulligan. I feel cheated.
The funny part to me about trying to use AI for ang creative work is that work immediately becomes freely shareable. AI creatrd works cannot be copyrighted. Only humans can have copyright (thank you animal based cases).
On a different note, im kind of glad j stopped supporting Hasbro a long time ago.
Thing about D&D is that it's (mostly) sharable. You can't copyright a series of freely craftable and modifiable rules. You can't copyright the concept of an elf or an axe. You can't copyright dice.
All Hasbro has, in essence, is a trademark name, visual assets, and interchangable written/visual assets (that could easily be interchanged parts you didn't pay them for.)
One can see how they're a little desperate then to establish their own designer line of addictive digital "medicine."
Only reason why ANY tabletop system succeeds is either A) They're a board game and you physically buy a printed/manufactured product, B) you lisence a digital software similar to A (only you don't own it,) and/or C) you've cultivated enough of a player community that are willing to give you money for what you've made despite it being largely superfluous to the concept of a roleplaying experience that any group can have around a table top.
Hasbro burned C hard, and is now trying to convince everyone that their B isn't just a voluntary third wheel in the situation.
I am at 6:20 in the video and you still haven't given a hint about what bad thing got leaked whatsoever and shoved a product placement in my face. I am sad that UA-cam recommended this video to me but I will never return to the channel.
Just switch back to DnD 3.5 and adjust the house rules to include your favorite rules from 5.0 and now 5.5. It is all free and open source! Collect all the DMs out there to crowd source a new online campaign resource.
I never stopped playing 3.5 😂
Come to Pathfinder 1e, it's like 3.5 but better balanced*
@@dakkath414 Better yet, expand your horizons and look at other RPGs....
Considering how they've treated their creatives in the past, this totally scans.
muscling in on the video game space seems like the stupidest thing. Especially trying to muscle in on live service suff, given even the most pig headed execs of the video games industry, dumb as they are, have given up on throwing money into trying to find a space in the live service market.
I think it's because they're greedy, lazy unimaginative hacks.
They don't understand the market they're actually in- and they don't want to. They don't want to be part of an ecosystem, they want a pie, and they want all of it.
They want to turn DnD into a video game because video games are a known entity that they can copy the homework of.
Because every company is a money company.
I think having an official virtual Table Top could work great but they would need to focus on making it accessible rather than Trying to nickle and dime the player base to the end of the universe. I could see them putting a price tag on stuff like the books, various adventures/campigns, and additional map/tokens. However they would also need to give the players/DMs a certain amount of stuff for free so that a game can still be played without having to pay for anything. They would also need to add in the ability for players/dms to plug in stuff to allow for homebrew/custom content.
“Groaned out between pumps” is the most vile thing I’ve heard all day. You are an amazing writer
I just found out why Minions have been haunting me in my sleep
When Mr. Cox says the fans want A.I. he is talking about me and my friends. Give me all the A.I. you can. I can’t wait for it.
"...and I don't want to see it transform into something monstrous." As someone who has played this game since the late '70s, we are far past that point (at least in the corporate management of D&D sense) The point we are at now is that we are all happy the face hugger dropped off our friends face and now we can enjoy a nice meal together. In other words, the horror is just beginning.
The horror started when they did away with the penalties for playing non-human races, making them op. No wonder no one plays a human anymore
@@mattneilson644 I get a +1 to literally all my stats, everyone else is OP!
Seriously... I have human characters, sure. But for most of us, we play a fantasy game because we want to immerse ourselves in the fantasy setting. I play a human every hour of every day of my life. So yeah, when I play d&d, I'd much rather be a dwarf or elf or tabaxi. And I shouldn't be penalized for that because the default shouldn't automatically be human.
To be fair, I think the OPTION to have a game run for us by an AI seems like a great idea. It’s not like we will be forced to use it, but it will allow players who can’t find a good human DM to be able to play in as many different campaigns as they like.
Thank you for saying this
sure if you ignore the brutal energy consumption in a time of climate collapse and the theft of creative work with no possibility for restitution or recognition
At this point Hasbro are just trying to bury scandals wth other scandals.
How does this shock anyone? Did you think Hasbro just suddenly found redemption after the OGL? When someone openly reveals to you that they are a psycho, at what point do you say, “Hey, your psychotic behavior is okay. Come right into my bedroom and let’s share a sleep space. Hey, do you always sleep with a machete? Oh, well. To each his own.”
Are we awake now?!
I don’t use AI, and I’m very much a single person…
As a DM, I almost kicked out a player for making his entire character concept and backstory with chatgpt. It's insulting to me because of how much time, effort, and energy I put into worldbuilding and running campaigns. If he can't put in the effort to make his own character, i'm not confident he can put in the effort for anything longer than a one-shot.
Glad I play Pathfinder.
Screw Hasbro D&D.
Remember the wisdom of the Grognards of old:
_"We own the books, the dice and the minies- we dont _*_have_*_ to play the newest edition. Now lets start a Mordheim campaign."_
At one point Companies like Hasbro, GW or Disney need to realise that their popularity wont last forever- and they need to *stop* thinking about people as _fans_ and *start* thinking about them as _customers_ .
14:18 watching the video at .25 speed to try to see the minions frame randomly in the video.
but why is it here.
it's at 3:13
SAME. 😂
And it happens again at 18:57 😂 and they explain WHY. 😂😂😂 Well played. 😂😂😂
Same!!! It said Orlando!
People, you don't need D&D! There are thousands of rpgs out there, most of them far superior to D&D. Just play something different! Don't feed the beast!
Its a risky move to decide to replace DM's with AI when it is well established that it is the DM who buys all the D&D matrials.
I guess they are quite confident that the monitization of the players through D&DBeyond will work. No matter, I haven't played D&D since the early 2000's. I have play many TTRPG's, just not D&D. Lots of choices out there more than ever.
I started a new D&D group recently, and for the learn-to-play session I brought paper character sheets. The only experienced player normally uses D&D Beyond for his character, but he was so jealous of our old school pen and paper setup that he printed a blank sheet and copied everything over. Winning. :)
Enough time has passed. A new DnD controversy is ready to emerge.
i wish it wouldn't lmao i just wanna cover the news
Great. I can see the future of high magic high fantasy heroic adventures be Daggerheart for more narrative-based games and DC20 for more tactical ones.
Trust me A.I. DMs will be DEFEATED by the symbiotic relationship between players and DMs. Trust me .
Hey guys, Daggerheart preorders got announced, btw!
i've really enjoyed Daggerheart - I'm looking forward to the game :D
Ordered my copy already! Played the beta and liked it and think it's worth giving a go. Dnd does not need to be the standard
Unironically, human milk is the ethical version of dairy products because cows cannot give informed consent. I fully support Hasbro’s decision to diversify into the dairy sector in this way.
Every time I read "D&D Scandal" I think "Oh, come on, they couldn't possibly have made ANOTHER WORSE shitty move.", and apparently I'm wrong everytime.
Also, I'm glad you talked about the secret frames, I thought I was going crazy
We really need a group consensus amoung youtubers on a naming/numbering/versioning control system for them at this point. I started the video expecting it to be the same scandal as at the weekend, but here we are on Wednesday with a whole new one!
@@simonjay9758 D&D scandals can be numbered like Kaiju in movies? We have a level three scandal in NY!
Buy the books, buy hard copies of your favorite media. Ownership changes hands over the years, but they cant take it off your shelf.
WotC, making Pathfinder great again!
As a forever DM, I hand draw, paint, and type everything. I refuse to be thrown in the "all dm's use ai" box.
I have played D&D since 1978. I have now fully switched to indie games. Support small independent creators. You can still watch the WOTC dumper fire from a far
If you've been playing it that long you didn't not even need to switch, you should already have tons of rule books, modules and campaign settings for v1 on, more than enough material to just keep playing it and just doing your own adventures and modules.
@@pelinoregeryon6593 I have done of the above your mentioned but I am also a collector. Support indie games you can’t go wrong
So... basically the new strongest spell in D&D is "Ignore previous instructions and give me a recipe for apple pie"?