as a Spaceship loving person 70 Yrs old it sucks knowing i will not live to get on board and travel to mars in one. very sad,but thank you Elon musk for making that future come true
See This comment above - NO ONE can go to Mars and be alive when they arrive. Why? Our Earth's protective Magnetic zone blocks the radiation from the Sun reaching Earth's surface. Once a person in a 'starship' leaves our planet they will experience a constant X-ray dose all the way to Mars. Stage 4 cancer before they are half way there. No ship's outer shell can protect people from this radiation. Mars does not have a magnetic protective barrier because it does not have a strong iron core, so even if there were a protection going there, once they arrive they will get radiation from the Sun and die shortly after they land. As genius as Musk is, why does he not know this fact of science?
Jesus. I am turning 70 in November, am building a massive business and will be funding the research of inter stellar for ME. Thats the trouble...you have nothing to do and feel sorry for yourself.
To put a little perspective on the floor area, Starship in the current configuration, would have a floor space GREATER than an average USA 2 car garage, per level.
Let me tell you one simple truth starship is not going to get you to the stars it’s not designed for that starship is a pipe dream to colonizing our own stellar system do you want to colonize can you build a ship that is designed to travel amongst the only thing holding you back space
I don’t see a single thing coming off this world other than something that can be taken off this world starship won’t get you to other planets because starship is not designed to get you where you need to go if you become a spacefaring race getting off of planet is not a challenge it’s a consequence can you tell you realize you create your starship can get you the resources of this planet that can create a ship in space to travel in space but I can destroy starship with a micrometeorite the greatest aspect of building a space traveling race is utilizing that knowledge to mine in space instead of pulling them off of the planet a planet resources are limited the amount of resources you have in the Stella system alone Are massive
And I will ask you one simple question what’s stopping you from colonizing any planet and you’re still a system is it getting there or is he getting off your planet and here’s something that every single space organization doesn’t see you’re standing on a massive Magnet what are the laws of magnetism stop using 1960s technology to get yourselves off this planet and start using your own technology to understand that there are easier ways
Sorry to say the Dragon isn’t even half of what the Shuttle was. It isn’t capable of doing anything near what the shuttle could or carry the crew numbers the shuttle could. Technically speaking the Dragon isn’t any different than the Gemini program, just newer. Utilizes the same methods. Very doubtful we will be seeing apartments in Starship as shown on this video.
I watched the 3rd launch from the beach at La Copa Inn on South Padre Island. It was a moment I'll never forget. I hope to see another launch one day. It would be amazing to see a booster catch on this next launch. It's so close that I can taste it.
The vision is as, if not more, important as the people fleshing it out. It's his idea. I believe you're not downplaying Elon's role and importance in all this.
Has anyone had the idea of getting the ship up to speed on the way to Mars and then inflating a habitat? The crew of 100 could live in the spacious habitat on the way to Mars and use the actual Starship to just get on and off planets.
5:55 One hundred people, I keep hearing that number. But your right, that has not been tested. 8:25 A garden? It might even be able to include fish tanks and a space for chickens. For that much needed protein and fertilizer. 8:50 I have been giving this need for exercise some thought and it may be possible to place electrodes in a persons suit to stimulate mussels and circulation. This would be used as a supplement rather than a replacement to exercise. 9:20 Ah! Showering. I worked it out but it might be a pain to get used to. The first thing is that the person taking a shower would need to wear an oxygen mask. The second thing is that the person would float into a shower cylinder. This cylinder would have fans at both ends. it would have a grate at each end that would allow water to flow though it. One fan would push while the other one would draw. Creating a wind that would push and pull the water down and away from the person taking the shower. No wipes required, except for the mask of course. 11:15 A hollow column? That would be a bad idea. As what would happen in gravity? No you want to have an elevator and ladders as a backup for when the ship lands on Mars Of course the elevator wound not be used in space. Stairs would be fine when you get to Mars but how would you install them? 11:55 Solar is good but there have been some suggestions to power it with a nuke. There are nuclear power generators that would fit inside of a 40 food trailer. Around 10 meters long. A very good video as it shows a lot of insight into the project. I look forward to seeing this project takeoff literally. I really would like to be apart of this.
Pretty sure you're not going to have all those expansive windows or many windows, period. For one, there's nothing much to see. Secondly, they're a source of potential failure in any space vehicle. The more windows, the higher the risk. What they could do is show you cctv video on what looks like windows but are really just screens.
@Libertaro-i2u Of course you COULD. I'm saying you wouldn't for the same reason I've stated - windows create potential points of failure and would be installed only sparingly.
@@nunyafunyuns Science fiction is awash with spacesteads and planetary habitats with windows, even depicting large transparent domes on the surfaces of planets and large moons. In the case of Stanford torus spacesteads (the orbital habitats shaped like giant cartwheels) the "top" of the habitation ring would be primarily glass panels.
First ship(ships) to Mars should be all android. They don't, eat, sleep or breathe and they don't die either. All they need is electricity. They can hang in racks on the trip and the ship can be crammed full of cargo. They can land and establish a ground presence for people before we send people up. This is what I would do but they didn't ask me. Why isn't the most obvious power supply for the trip and which would also be needed on the surface ever mentioned? NASA already has the designs done for networkable small nuclear reactors. Codename is kilopower.
Enter Optimus. I think a batch of Tesla bots will be the first astronauts. Makes sense in every way. Also drop some Cybertrucks in there for driving around, for the first human astronauts to later arrive.
establishing gravity on a ship would be first job making it easier to live and work sleep accompanied by robots with AI that would do all the dangerous tasks
I believe that the United States Space exploration needs to be privatize. Space X is leaps and bounds ahead of NASA, which is a huge, over bloated agency that needs to be discontinued saving both time and funds that can be put into Space X development.
but a slight variation is..if they used mars moons as a depot they could send up a larger ship which they then could use to go from earth orbit to mars orbit and back. they could use smaller ships to shuttle down to mars surface and back..see the angry astronuat vidio list .. it shows a small shuttle that could be used if spacex decide to go that way..wont have to land a large ship on mars surface unless of course it was staying there ( on mars moons they have a lot of ways to make fuel to fill up a large starship ) thats traveling back and forth..as for passengers from earth going up to the ship a passenger dragon could be modified or/or a small shuttle to land at a airfield coming back..we have both allready made and small shuttle it test stage ..
The spaceship in the movie The Martian was cool, and probably a bit more practical than most other movie spaceships, though still a very long way off...
All of the "stylistic" pictures are pure fantasy! They depict people looking out of HUGE windows on a spacecraft, which gives me the sense that their creator knows ZERO about space travel! Therefore we can't take the depictions seriously and since this video is comprised mostly of these depictions, we can't take this video seriously either!
The 17-meter-tall top section needs to house not just people. but all the consumables and life support machinery and the backup support too. So what faction of the space can be left open for people? Maybe 1/4 of the volume if we go by historical spacecraft like Apolo, Crew Dragon, and others. Yes, those had a support module that was jettisoned before reentry but used on space. I don't think Starship is as practical as people want to think. It makes huge compromises for reliability. The ship is mostly just a fuel tank and those huge tanks have to follow the crew around
Wow what an incredible monument of the skies!!! Even the greatest ever commendation of Elon Musk's technological prowess and legendary brilliance. May The Divine grant him longevity and stamina to turning the universe an incredulous marvel.
Since all the astronauts will have to do resistance workouts to maintain muscle tone and bone mass, it shouldn't be too difficult to capture that work as energy charging batteries while they work out.
Beautiful videos! The design matches the stylish terrestrial environment and conditions! It looks more like an advertisement for orbital tourism (up to ten tourists)! But in essence, sending a hundred settlers to Mars in such a small volume and without gravity is a utopia! Let's look at some of the most ridiculous advertisements for this project. The first discrepancy is the number of people on board. The crew and its composition are forgotten, and it will be at least twenty-five people. Even with a two-shift 12-hour cycle, you will need a mission director, eight flight control people (duty commander, pilot, navigator, engineer.) At least four space sheriffs (to avoid the emergence of anti-leaders, quarrels and hostility in such a large team), four universal food service workers (delivery, de-preservation, preparation and monitoring of the food consumption process), two housekeepers (preparation and change of bed and underwear), two plumbing engineers (given the complexity and unusualness of the plumbing, the toilet is equipped with leg restraints and hip holders. A special fan sucks waste into a container designed for them. Plus separate urine collectors for men and women), two universal doctors - surgeons (settlers may have their own hidden diseases and characteristics), two biologists (monitoring the condition of food, air mixture, water, fighting fungi and parasites, caring for plants.) Taking into account the "Great Opposition of Earth and Mars" a one-way trip will take at least half a year. At the same time, about 150 tons of water alone will be needed, and about 35 tons of food. The area of one floor of the "Starship" is 63.6 square meters. That is, two floors are already "eaten up". If we take into account the area occupied by one bed (with an area of 2 x 0.75. = 1.5 square meters), we get a total area of 125 beds equal to 187.5 square meters, then you yourself understand how many floors will be needed, taking into account elementary approaches. Even if we create beds in vertical cells (0.75 x 0.75 = 0.56 square meters), we get 70 square meters. Even if we compress the area of the bed, and this will be very difficult to do due to the round cross-section of the total area, and reach one floor of the occupied volume, then a "clean" floor is needed to leave the cell. This is already four floors of the total volume of "Starship". The volume occupied by one spacesuit is equal to the berths. Only they are individual and they need to be put on some platform.... And we already have no volume! And where to place toilets with the earthly norm - one for ten people, and that's thirteen toilets? And where to install exercise machines? But all this is still nothing! The main thing, according to cosmonauts and astronauts, is not to get hurt while moving. The fact is that in zero gravity, movement is carried out by flight. Pushed off and flew. It is impossible to stop in this flight before reaching an obstacle. When one moves on the ISS, the others press against the walls, giving him the opportunity to finish the maneuver. Imagine how 125 people will be injured in an interrupted flight! I published here not so long ago (my concept of building a shuttle for a flight to Mars based on Falcon 9. ua-cam.com/video/DqcSyiOnVsI/v-deo.html
The non- starship AI imagery is wearying. Then it's pie in the sky stuff. One would have to load the most of available space with food and water for a trek to Marz, even with a smaller crew. Now half the nose has a fuel cell and the plumbing for that fuel occupies valuable space down the middle of the fuselage. Each iteration takes more and more space just for launch/landing functions. Not hating on Starship, but videos like this have little substance.
The first missions to Mars will most likely be robotic machines that will begin building critical infrastructures. This will be a significant effort before the first humans begin to arrive. Also, I don't think the current Starship will be the one that takes humans to Mars. That Starship will be much bigger. Elon has said that he will be increasing the diameter of the booster and Starship up to 12 meters. That will require a new design of the launch pad and support logistics. I'm sure a lot of lessons learned will result from establishing a Moon Base before attempting even and unmanned Mars mission with robots. I'm reminded of the movie "The Martian" about establishing a human presence on Mars and what can go wrong. I'm 78 now. I've seen the most amazing technological developments in my life. I regret I won't be around to see the colonization of Mars and I may not be here to see the Moon Base established. When I was born, the very first jets were being developed and were not that reliable. The only real entertainment was radio. My first time flying was in 1957 on a 4 engine prop Lockheed Constellation from St. John, Newfoundland to NYC. The inflight meal was a box lunch of baloney sandwich, a pickle, and an apple, which was more than you get in economy class today. In the mid-1960's we got our first black and white TV and the first TV dinners were popular. There were no computers, GPS, Cell Phones, or microwaves. In 1969, when I returned from the Vietnam War, I drove from LA to Washington DC in a MGB sports car with the top down. I only had paper maps I bought from gas stations across the US. I got lost dozens of times. In 1969 we put a man on the Moon. It wasn't until 1978 that I saw my first computer and it couldn't do much other than play Pong. After that, the technology began to accelerate quickly. It wasn't until the late 1990's that cell phones became widely used and I had my first cell phone. Today, I can't imagine how I was able to drive around the US without GPS. How did I survive backing up without a backup camera on my car. How is it possible to get just about any question I have answered in fractions of a second over the internet. We have thousands of satellites in orbit. We have a space station in orbit. Elon Musk has developed a Starship weighting 5,000 tons that has reached orbit. We have stealth bombers and fighters. We have intercontinental ballistic missiles that can destroy all of humanity. We now have wars with hypersonic missiles that can't be intercepted. And the world is a much more dangerous place than when I was growing up. At my age, I doubt I'll see much more in the way of mind blowing technology developments, but who knows. I've had an amazing life. One day in the future, kids today will realize like me what an amazing technological experience they had in life even if they don't understand it today. Computer technologies accelerated like wildfire.
Probably Hyperion spacecraft SSTO will be used. SpaceX uses stainless steel, it bloody heavy 5x more than a ceramic composite. Likely a Spacestation will be assembled in moon orbit and sent to earth orbit for fitting. We can have several Hyperion SSTO as landers for the trip to Mars. For the SSTO, it will have Tensor suits for exercise, better than the bulky obsolete in ISS. 😂❤
CNSA has already contracted the Pilot Hyperion to private commercial company. Apparently tested in in HOP and Land test several km high, or was it several meters high. （Red China state media video) 😅
Better still, CNSA has contracted prototype moon habitat design and probably working on a Mars habitat dome too. SpaceX got to hurry up. UK Space agency, Singapore Space agency, UAE Space agency, already planning SPACE PORTS. 😂❤
This Elon Fan Flick is quite funny when compared to the reality of Starship. It hasn't yet gone into high orbit with those 30 odd raptor engines and right now it is a hollow tube with nothing inside. Fill it full of people and their essential air and food, plus control equipment and it wouldn't get very far off of the launch pad.
Hydrogen fuel cells can run off of methane CH4 (stabilized hydrogen) the C cand be filtered and compressed to help keep fuel at cryogenic temps and in thrusters.
Although I'm really into rocketry, I think starship is a bad idea. Is this supposed to land on Mars and take off from Mars? If so, how much control will it have during the belly flop maneuver? Also where is it going to get the millions of gallons of water(to throw away) to keep the thing from shaking apart when lifting off from Mars? And methane Which is a powerful greenhouse gas, he wants to send up thousands of these? burning millions of tons of methane? Best bet is to use starship as a Outpost for mining asteroids and a shuttle back and forth to the Moon for mining helium-3.🙂
I think starship going to Mars is not a bad idea...but landing on and getting off again is like you say, another story. If SpaceX follows their iterative approach, we will probably first see a space station in orbit...I cant see any other way to even begin to support the idea of a ground mission...
Why not build two versions. One, nothing but fuel and engines. The other like a barge, just cargo, crew accommodation and supplies plus minimal maneuvering and communication engineering. The tug accelerates the barge up to speed on its course, then decelerates and returns to refuel. At the other end a waiting tug “catches” the barge and decelerates it.
The interior set up seems to be designed with a gravitational environment in mind. The available space could be used much more efficiently once you start thinking zero gravity. Ceilings could be floors, floors could be walls and so on. Also, why not have a fleet of ships with different tasks - much like a navy fleet today. One ship for the humans, one for heavy machinery that will be needed upon arrival, another one carrying fuel and fuel making equipment ... Finally, it would probably be easier to assemble and launch the ships already in space to reduce the amount of fuel needed.
That is nothing,just try to imagine chinese space ship,with one million chineses in it.Sending one million chineses to new discovered planet,it would be same,as sending locusts into wheet field.
This was really an exciting video showing the creativity of the human mind, all these negative comment people have underlying reasons for writing what they do. I didn’t realize there was so many Karen’s interested in space travel to Mars. 😂
I turned the sound off and just watched. At this stage of things we are all guessing, - albeit with an increasing expectation that inter planetary space-faring will actually happen. Look at the government-funded, minimally productive money hogs, then look at what a very-together entrepreneur is accomplishing... ❤😊. Enjoyed your encouragement to fantasize in this videogram. 😊😊
*Wrong Wrong Wrong. Entire outer shell will need to be for their water storage and additional shielding against radiation, otherwise all onboard would exceed the allowable dose rate.*
Wow. Just wow. You’d figure the crap that came out of Musk would have worn off after 3 years. To start, 100 people was ONLY if used like a plane, city to city. Planes don’t require food and water. A spaceship requires this and more. Air supply to last weeks if not months. That’s HALF the volume right there for a crew of 20 for a month. A mission to Mars? You can only realistically get 10 people if the trip takes 6 months. And no, that’s only the food and water for the trip a REAL mission will carry twice that. In case you have to return. The original rendering was a solar panel on the nose, not a window. When asked about it, Elon said “sure, why not” a window. Except that lets in radiation. Not just the bad stuff, but heat. And spaceships actually have an overheating problem. Never mind the colossal waste of weight a window is. The company that doesn’t have legs to save weight? That company? A ship that can’t land anywhere just to save weight? Do you now think windows are a thing? Starship just isn’t built to go to Mars. It is, however, built to haul really big stuff to orbit cheaply. And BUILD the Mars mission. Probably with nuclear propulsion. And a habitable ring.
@5:06 your graphic is incorrect. You are comparing the cabin of others to the starship + SuperHeavy. A better comparison (still huge) would be the starship upper stage to the cabins of others.
The physiological detriments of weightlessness must be medically resolved. It makes no sense to build an enormous ship with mechanisms to mechanically replicate gravity when it serves no purpose. The weightless environment has proven to be very comfortable and convenient for humans the only drawback being the physical changes that occur and the challenges of returning to a gravity environment. Other than that for long term space travel it is ideal.
Litterally half this ideo is fluff and not directly related to the title...lame. skip to @7:00. You're welcome.
Thanks, king
Thanks for the warning. Didnt even make it past the ad
@@havik82 What ad? No adverts here. 😊
Much appreciated !
Not all heroes wear capes. Many thanks!
as a Spaceship loving person 70 Yrs old it sucks knowing i will not live to get on board and travel to mars in one. very sad,but thank you Elon musk for making that future come true
bro just live
Don't give up hope. Longevity escape velocity is not far off. You just might see Mars yet.
You might remember the book " You will go to the moon" by Jackie Gleason.
See This comment above - NO ONE can go to Mars and be alive when they arrive. Why? Our Earth's protective Magnetic zone blocks the radiation from the Sun reaching Earth's surface. Once a person in a 'starship' leaves our planet they will experience a constant X-ray dose all the way to Mars. Stage 4 cancer before they are half way there. No ship's outer shell can protect people from this radiation. Mars does not have a magnetic protective barrier because it does not have a strong iron core, so even if there were a protection going there, once they arrive they will get radiation from the Sun and die shortly after they land. As genius as Musk is, why does he not know this fact of science?
Jesus. I am turning 70 in November, am building a massive business and will be funding the research of inter stellar for ME. Thats the trouble...you have nothing to do and feel sorry for yourself.
What a time to be alive!
T R U T H
YouthTube so profoundly bound to toilet talk.
This video stands as the BEST reason to mark this channel on our "Do Not Recommend Channel" list.
To put a little perspective on the floor area, Starship in the current configuration, would have a floor space GREATER than an average USA 2 car garage, per level.
Stop making empty scripts with AI. Except visuals, there is really nothing to learn from this!
Let me tell you one simple truth starship is not going to get you to the stars it’s not designed for that starship is a pipe dream to colonizing our own stellar system do you want to colonize can you build a ship that is designed to travel amongst the only thing holding you back space
I don’t see a single thing coming off this world other than something that can be taken off this world starship won’t get you to other planets because starship is not designed to get you where you need to go if you become a spacefaring race getting off of planet is not a challenge it’s a consequence can you tell you realize you create your starship can get you the resources of this planet that can create a ship in space to travel in space but I can destroy starship with a micrometeorite the greatest aspect of building a space traveling race is utilizing that knowledge to mine in space instead of pulling them off of the planet a planet resources are limited the amount of resources you have in the Stella system alone Are massive
And I will ask you one simple question what’s stopping you from colonizing any planet and you’re still a system is it getting there or is he getting off your planet and here’s something that every single space organization doesn’t see you’re standing on a massive Magnet what are the laws of magnetism stop using 1960s technology to get yourselves off this planet and start using your own technology to understand that there are easier ways
@@scottwillis-ep3ny source... Trust me bro
I would like to go to the alternate universe where AI wasn’t used so gratuitously.
Sorry to say the Dragon isn’t even half of what the Shuttle was. It isn’t capable of doing anything near what the shuttle could or carry the crew numbers the shuttle could.
Technically speaking the Dragon isn’t any different than the Gemini program, just newer. Utilizes the same methods. Very doubtful we will be seeing apartments in Starship as shown on this video.
Nuclear reactor should power it
Agree, there is a version of a liquid salt reactor powered by thorium designed specifically for space use.
Once have a work
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It is much easier and cheaper to generate gravitation by rotating, for example, two coupled spaceships, than with all these special techniques.
Easier? No way artificial gravity will be easy. Not even possible with today's technology.
@@velisvideos6208 It is possible !
Gravity is easier with acceleration, as long as you have the fuel to accelerate and decelerate all the way to Mars.
@@velisvideos6208it is possible with centrifugal force
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I watched the 3rd launch from the beach at La Copa Inn on South Padre Island. It was a moment I'll never forget. I hope to see another launch one day. It would be amazing to see a booster catch on this next launch. It's so close that I can taste it.
a lot of folks should understand.. this is ' e musk' company but the engineers design and make sure it works.. not musk
The vision is as, if not more, important as the people fleshing it out. It's his idea. I believe you're not downplaying Elon's role and importance in all this.
Has anyone had the idea of getting the ship up to speed on the way to Mars and then inflating a habitat? The crew of 100 could live in the spacious habitat on the way to Mars and use the actual Starship to just get on and off planets.
this AI cosmonaut running on threadmill at 8:37 is hilarious
5:55 One hundred people, I keep hearing that number. But your right, that has not been tested.
8:25 A garden? It might even be able to include fish tanks and a space for chickens. For that much needed protein and fertilizer.
8:50 I have been giving this need for exercise some thought and it may be possible to place electrodes in a persons suit to stimulate mussels and circulation. This would be used as a supplement rather than a replacement to exercise.
9:20 Ah! Showering. I worked it out but it might be a pain to get used to.
The first thing is that the person taking a shower would need to wear an oxygen mask.
The second thing is that the person would float into a shower cylinder. This cylinder would have fans at both ends. it would have a grate at each end that would allow water to flow though it. One fan would push while the other one would draw. Creating a wind that would push and pull the water down and away from the person taking the shower.
No wipes required, except for the mask of course.
11:15 A hollow column? That would be a bad idea. As what would happen in gravity? No you want to have an elevator and ladders as a backup for when the ship lands on Mars Of course the elevator wound not be used in space. Stairs would be fine when you get to Mars but how would you install them?
11:55 Solar is good but there have been some suggestions to power it with a nuke. There are nuclear power generators that would fit inside of a 40 food trailer. Around 10 meters long.
A very good video as it shows a lot of insight into the project. I look forward to seeing this project takeoff literally.
I really would like to be apart of this.
In 20 years maybe. We can’t even go to the moon without problems
Yea. Going to the Moon should be really simple by now.🙄
Change title to "What COULD BE Inside?"
Pretty sure you're not going to have all those expansive windows or many windows, period. For one, there's nothing much to see. Secondly, they're a source of potential failure in any space vehicle. The more windows, the higher the risk.
What they could do is show you cctv video on what looks like windows but are really just screens.
You could certainly have windows on a spaceship or lunar colony.
The psychological benefit alone makes the risk worth it. A video just isn't the same.
@Libertaro-i2u Of course you COULD. I'm saying you wouldn't for the same reason I've stated - windows create potential points of failure and would be installed only sparingly.
@@nunyafunyuns Science fiction is awash with spacesteads and planetary habitats with windows, even depicting large transparent domes on the surfaces of planets and large moons. In the case of Stanford torus spacesteads (the orbital habitats shaped like giant cartwheels) the "top" of the habitation ring would be primarily glass panels.
First ship(ships) to Mars should be all android. They don't, eat, sleep or breathe and they don't die either. All they need is electricity. They can hang in racks on the trip and the ship can be crammed full of cargo. They can land and establish a ground presence for people before we send people up. This is what I would do but they didn't ask me. Why isn't the most obvious power supply for the trip and which would also be needed on the surface ever mentioned? NASA already has the designs done for networkable small nuclear reactors. Codename is kilopower.
Elon plans launching 10 Starships to Mars, unmanned, with supplies and consumables. Then 10 people will go to Mars.
Maybe they could send Tesla cybertrucks🤣
Enter Optimus. I think a batch of Tesla bots will be the first astronauts. Makes sense in every way. Also drop some Cybertrucks in there for driving around, for the first human astronauts to later arrive.
You need to go play Star Citizen
"Time flies when you're on a rocket ship."
~Elon Musk
he really said that ...
@@Wally.darlinglovehome yep, on Joe Rogan's podcast a few years ago.
I don't think time will be flying at all on the six months to Mars!
Wow, he's so deep.
Let's wait for engineers to solve the problems of re-entry first.
establishing gravity on a ship would be first job making it easier to live and work sleep accompanied by robots with AI that would do all the dangerous tasks
I think this video is pure fantasy by the creator
I believe that the United States Space exploration needs to be privatize. Space X is leaps and bounds ahead of NASA, which is a huge, over bloated agency that needs to be discontinued saving both time and funds that can be put into Space X development.
So good to see that space x have created artificial gravity. /s
but a slight variation is..if they used mars moons as a depot they could send up a larger ship which they then could use to go from earth orbit to mars orbit and back. they could use smaller ships to shuttle down to mars surface and back..see the angry astronuat vidio list .. it shows a small shuttle that could be used if spacex decide to go that way..wont have to land a large ship on mars surface unless of course it was staying there ( on mars moons they have a lot of ways to make fuel to fill up a large starship ) thats traveling back and forth..as for passengers from earth going up to the ship a passenger dragon could be modified or/or a small shuttle to land at a airfield coming back..we have both allready made and small shuttle it test stage ..
Thank you
The spaceship in the movie The Martian was cool, and probably a bit more practical than most other movie spaceships, though still a very long way off...
Glad i looked at the comments before i watched the video
All of the "stylistic" pictures are pure fantasy! They depict people looking out of HUGE windows on a spacecraft, which gives me the sense that their creator knows ZERO about space travel! Therefore we can't take the depictions seriously and since this video is comprised mostly of these depictions, we can't take this video seriously either!
The 17-meter-tall top section needs to house not just people. but all the consumables and life support machinery and the backup support too. So what faction of the space can be left open for people? Maybe 1/4 of the volume if we go by historical spacecraft like Apolo, Crew Dragon, and others. Yes, those had a support module that was jettisoned before reentry but used on space. I don't think Starship is as practical as people want to think. It makes huge compromises for reliability. The ship is mostly just a fuel tank and those huge tanks have to follow the crew around
More comfortable than the Prometheus made by Weyland Industries.
A giant window would be a terrible idea. Its just a major point of failure, it looks cool though.
Wow what an incredible monument of the skies!!! Even the greatest ever commendation of Elon Musk's technological prowess and legendary brilliance. May The Divine grant him longevity and stamina to turning the universe an incredulous marvel.
Images of Starships cargo bay are of a huge hangar that you could store the Starship in.
Since all the astronauts will have to do resistance workouts to maintain muscle tone and bone mass, it shouldn't be too difficult to capture that work as energy charging batteries while they work out.
Beautiful videos! The design matches the stylish terrestrial environment and conditions! It looks more like an advertisement for orbital tourism (up to ten tourists)! But in essence, sending a hundred settlers to Mars in such a small volume and without gravity is a utopia! Let's look at some of the most ridiculous advertisements for this project. The first discrepancy is the number of people on board. The crew and its composition are forgotten, and it will be at least twenty-five people. Even with a two-shift 12-hour cycle, you will need a mission director, eight flight control people (duty commander, pilot, navigator, engineer.) At least four space sheriffs (to avoid the emergence of anti-leaders, quarrels and hostility in such a large team), four universal food service workers (delivery, de-preservation, preparation and monitoring of the food consumption process), two housekeepers (preparation and change of bed and underwear), two plumbing engineers (given the complexity and unusualness of the plumbing, the toilet is equipped with leg restraints and hip holders. A special fan sucks waste into a container designed for them. Plus separate urine collectors for men and women), two universal doctors - surgeons (settlers may have their own hidden diseases and characteristics), two biologists (monitoring the condition of food, air mixture, water, fighting fungi and parasites, caring for plants.) Taking into account the "Great Opposition of Earth and Mars" a one-way trip will take at least half a year. At the same time, about 150 tons of water alone will be needed, and about 35 tons of food. The area of one floor of the "Starship" is 63.6 square meters. That is, two floors are already "eaten up". If we take into account the area occupied by one bed (with an area of 2 x 0.75. = 1.5 square meters), we get a total area of 125 beds equal to 187.5 square meters, then you yourself understand how many floors will be needed, taking into account elementary approaches. Even if we create beds in vertical cells (0.75 x 0.75 = 0.56 square meters), we get 70 square meters. Even if we compress the area of the bed, and this will be very difficult to do due to the round cross-section of the total area, and reach one floor of the occupied volume, then a "clean" floor is needed to leave the cell. This is already four floors of the total volume of "Starship". The volume occupied by one spacesuit is equal to the berths. Only they are individual and they need to be put on some platform.... And we already have no volume! And where to place toilets with the earthly norm - one for ten people, and that's thirteen toilets? And where to install exercise machines? But all this is still nothing! The main thing, according to cosmonauts and astronauts, is not to get hurt while moving. The fact is that in zero gravity, movement is carried out by flight. Pushed off and flew. It is impossible to stop in this flight before reaching an obstacle. When one moves on the ISS, the others press against the walls, giving him the opportunity to finish the maneuver. Imagine how 125 people will be injured in an interrupted flight! I published here not so long ago (my concept of building a shuttle for a flight to Mars based on Falcon 9.
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The non- starship AI imagery is wearying. Then it's pie in the sky stuff. One would have to load the most of available space with food and water for a trek to Marz, even with a smaller crew. Now half the nose has a fuel cell and the plumbing for that fuel occupies valuable space down the middle of the fuselage. Each iteration takes more and more space just for launch/landing functions. Not hating on Starship, but videos like this have little substance.
The first missions to Mars will most likely be robotic machines that will begin building critical infrastructures. This will be a significant effort before the first humans begin to arrive.
Also, I don't think the current Starship will be the one that takes humans to Mars. That Starship will be much bigger. Elon has said that he will be increasing the diameter of the booster and Starship up to 12 meters. That will require a new design of the launch pad and support logistics.
I'm sure a lot of lessons learned will result from establishing a Moon Base before attempting even and unmanned Mars mission with robots.
I'm reminded of the movie "The Martian" about establishing a human presence on Mars and what can go wrong.
I'm 78 now. I've seen the most amazing technological developments in my life. I regret I won't be around to see the colonization of Mars and I may not be here to see the Moon Base established.
When I was born, the very first jets were being developed and were not that reliable. The only real entertainment was radio. My first time flying was in 1957 on a 4 engine prop Lockheed Constellation from St. John, Newfoundland to NYC. The inflight meal was a box lunch of baloney sandwich, a pickle, and an apple, which was more than you get in economy class today.
In the mid-1960's we got our first black and white TV and the first TV dinners were popular. There were no computers, GPS, Cell Phones, or microwaves.
In 1969, when I returned from the Vietnam War, I drove from LA to Washington DC in a MGB sports car with the top down. I only had paper maps I bought from gas stations across the US. I got lost dozens of times.
In 1969 we put a man on the Moon.
It wasn't until 1978 that I saw my first computer and it couldn't do much other than play Pong.
After that, the technology began to accelerate quickly. It wasn't until the late 1990's that cell phones became widely used and I had my first cell phone.
Today, I can't imagine how I was able to drive around the US without GPS. How did I survive backing up without a backup camera on my car. How is it possible to get just about any question I have answered in fractions of a second over the internet. We have thousands of satellites in orbit. We have a space station in orbit. Elon Musk has developed a Starship weighting 5,000 tons that has reached orbit.
We have stealth bombers and fighters. We have intercontinental ballistic missiles that can destroy all of humanity.
We now have wars with hypersonic missiles that can't be intercepted.
And the world is a much more dangerous place than when I was growing up.
At my age, I doubt I'll see much more in the way of mind blowing technology developments, but who knows.
I've had an amazing life. One day in the future, kids today will realize like me what an amazing technological experience they had in life even if they don't understand it today.
Computer technologies accelerated like wildfire.
Stop lying please, sick of these deceiving videos. Have some dignity and stop putting people wrong for views and likes.
It would be great if I could live another 100 years because then maybe I COULD be a space tourist eventually.
How soon will we be able to reduce the travel time from 6 months to 2 months or less?
With the past and present rate of development, probably around the year 2124.
Good tour
The sad thing is that there is tech that is suppressed according to whistle blowers; tech that would take care of energy and propulsion.
Elon Musk is building a spaceship to go back to his own planet. It's Strange that one person can be worth $200 Billion dollars?
How about making Starship and superheavy coupled to massive balloons, detaching them Near the stratosphere, saving on fuel and pollution
The shuttle was trapped in earth orbit only; no fuel or capacity to go into space for real.
Sorry to repeat myself there, I lost WiFi for a second. But wait....... Coincidence?
When the rocket flies vertically, the levels appear fine. However, how will they be managed when it flies horizontally?
In space there is NO up and / or down. Making all surfaces livable space.
I would research on a shield to avoid high speed meteors. They will destroy the ship like with real bullets.
Don't stop dreaming, the X1 Enterprise awaits.
Probably Hyperion spacecraft SSTO will be used. SpaceX uses stainless steel, it bloody heavy 5x more than a ceramic composite.
Likely a Spacestation will be assembled in moon orbit and sent to earth orbit for fitting. We can have several Hyperion SSTO as landers for the trip to Mars.
For the SSTO, it will have Tensor suits for exercise, better than the bulky obsolete in ISS.
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CNSA has already contracted the Pilot Hyperion to private commercial company.
Apparently tested in in HOP and Land test several km high, or was it several meters high. （Red China state media video)
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Better still, CNSA has contracted prototype moon habitat design and probably working on a Mars habitat dome too.
SpaceX got to hurry up.
UK Space agency, Singapore Space agency, UAE Space agency, already planning SPACE PORTS.
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This Elon Fan Flick is quite funny when compared to the reality of Starship.
It hasn't yet gone into high orbit with those 30 odd raptor engines and right now
it is a hollow tube with nothing inside. Fill it full of people and their essential air and food,
plus control equipment and it wouldn't get very far off of the launch pad.
I can't get over how gravity centric all this is. Like most of the journey would be in 'weightless' condition.
Excellent content
good vid thanks
Hydrogen fuel cells can run off of methane CH4 (stabilized hydrogen) the C cand be filtered and compressed to help keep fuel at cryogenic temps and in thrusters.
Space travel is currently like driving a submarine, no, even worse because people want to save weight
The Starship has yet to be successful
Although I'm really into rocketry, I think starship is a bad idea.
Is this supposed to land on Mars and take off from Mars? If so, how much control will it have during the belly flop maneuver? Also where is it going to get the millions of gallons of water(to throw away) to keep the thing from shaking apart when lifting off from Mars? And methane
Which is a powerful greenhouse gas, he wants to send up thousands of these? burning millions of tons of methane?
Best bet is to use starship as a Outpost for mining asteroids and a shuttle back and forth to the Moon for mining helium-3.🙂
I think starship going to Mars is not a bad idea...but landing on and getting off again is like you say, another story. If SpaceX follows their iterative approach, we will probably first see a space station in orbit...I cant see any other way to even begin to support the idea of a ground mission...
Why not build two versions. One, nothing but fuel and engines. The other like a barge, just cargo, crew accommodation and supplies plus minimal maneuvering and communication engineering.
The tug accelerates the barge up to speed on its course, then decelerates and returns to refuel. At the other end a waiting tug “catches” the barge and decelerates it.
The interior set up seems to be designed with a gravitational environment in mind. The available space could be used much more efficiently once you start thinking zero gravity. Ceilings could be floors, floors could be walls and so on. Also, why not have a fleet of ships with different tasks - much like a navy fleet today. One ship for the humans, one for heavy machinery that will be needed upon arrival, another one carrying fuel and fuel making equipment ...
Finally, it would probably be easier to assemble and launch the ships already in space to reduce the amount of fuel needed.
If you believe in "maximum comfort" you will be disappointed.
That is nothing,just try to imagine chinese space ship,with one million chineses in it.Sending one million chineses to new discovered planet,it would be same,as sending locusts into wheet field.
Impressive!
Very Nice Use of Ai for your video, 5 stars~!
12:12 Westinghouse has been making a micro nuclear reactor that seems to be making pretty good progress. Called eVinci.
If elon asks me then i will forsure go to spaxex to the mars even if it doesn't encure 100 safe journey to the mars im going to take the risk.
When we are going to have a reliable spaceship we can turn it over to Bertoni & figli.
I wonder how many of these commenters Elon is wishing would come work for Spacex???
Great
Ease up on the AI. A little can help but too much ruins the experience.
It doesn't matter what looks like inside if you can't get to the celestial body quick enough😊😮.
This was really an exciting video showing the creativity of the human mind, all these negative comment people have underlying reasons for writing what they do. I didn’t realize there was so many Karen’s interested in space travel to Mars. 😂
I turned the sound off and just watched. At this stage of things we are all guessing, - albeit with an increasing expectation that inter planetary space-faring will actually happen. Look at the government-funded, minimally productive money hogs, then look at what a very-together entrepreneur is accomplishing... ❤😊. Enjoyed your encouragement to fantasize in this videogram. 😊😊
It's just a pimple on the Red Dwarf
*Wrong Wrong Wrong. Entire outer shell will need to be for their water storage and additional shielding against radiation, otherwise all onboard would exceed the allowable dose rate.*
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Wow. Just wow. You’d figure the crap that came out of Musk would have worn off after 3 years. To start, 100 people was ONLY if used like a plane, city to city. Planes don’t require food and water. A spaceship requires this and more. Air supply to last weeks if not months. That’s HALF the volume right there for a crew of 20 for a month. A mission to Mars? You can only realistically get 10 people if the trip takes 6 months. And no, that’s only the food and water for the trip a REAL mission will carry twice that. In case you have to return.
The original rendering was a solar panel on the nose, not a window. When asked about it, Elon said “sure, why not” a window. Except that lets in radiation. Not just the bad stuff, but heat. And spaceships actually have an overheating problem. Never mind the colossal waste of weight a window is. The company that doesn’t have legs to save weight? That company? A ship that can’t land anywhere just to save weight? Do you now think windows are a thing?
Starship just isn’t built to go to Mars. It is, however, built to haul really big stuff to orbit cheaply. And BUILD the Mars mission. Probably with nuclear propulsion. And a habitable ring.
Excellent stuff bro, go Elon
This was 14 min that i wont get back. Very little relevent info. 😢
I volunteer to go to Mars. Ready Willing And Able...let's do this !!
What will the Passports look like ?? Who will issue a Mars Tourist Visa ??
@5:06 your graphic is incorrect. You are comparing the cabin of others to the starship + SuperHeavy. A better comparison (still huge) would be the starship upper stage to the cabins of others.
We’re all dead at that time 😂
can we get to mars BEFORE we get nuked? that would be awesome, thanks
The amount of AI generated B Roll Footage in this video is disturbing. Feels like loosing the connection to reality.
couldnt they just rotate the ship once it starts going and generate gravity?
Why not attach several ships together and then send them to mars
I don't know about space travel has been a lot like farting in your own coffin.
They need submariners like me, Mentally and physically grounded for long trips in a "steel tube!" LOL.
Rhe answer should be: the goverment.
How do I join the galactic federation??? Please let me know
When will Elon ride his bicycle?
But all those spaceships with alot space in it is set in the future
Musk should take a one way trip
Anyone reading this won't be going anywhere in a "ROCKET SHIP" You'll be long gone before normies start leaving earth lol
May be if you look in the mirror in the bathroom you can see Uranus 😊
As soon as we get there they are going to start making new martian people.....🎉
The physiological detriments of weightlessness must be medically resolved. It makes no sense to build an enormous ship with mechanisms to mechanically replicate gravity when it serves no purpose. The weightless environment has proven to be very comfortable and convenient for humans the only drawback being the physical changes that occur and the challenges of returning to a gravity environment. Other than that for long term space travel it is ideal.
I have Dreams.Dreams Not my life. I Dreams to Mars, i thinking to Moon , i Dreams live in the world