Lol exactly...they had never seen anything like him before..its why kobe could never surpass him, he was just a lesser version of jordan. Lebron has been nba ready since the 10th grade, and is something we have never seen before....but then they started using rings against him to protect their childhood 😂 "Well yeah he's good,, but jordan won 6" Oh ok
Imagine a journalist doing this today to star player today. And they say MJ didn't go throw pressure. Imagine they even said he got his father killed. That is sick. My father died and I would not say that about anyone
They started calling him "the best ever" after Magic ended the talk of Bird being "the best ever". By calling Jordan "the best ever" (Bird started it in 1986) they had to simply flip the script 180 degrees. Wins and titles and team play no longer mattered. It was back to 1970s hero ball that the media trashed at the beginning of the Bird-Magic era. It was all fascinating.
@@sportstalkonly1442 Also educated peopel know MJ is the GOAT. The facts point to MJ being the GOAT. So he is undisputed. If uneducated people like yourself want to spin yourself into a circle trying to find other people, so be it. The educated fans will be on a boat waiting for you to catch up with the rest of the world. Enjoy
Jordan could be mean, but I respect a man that tells you to your face how he feels about you rather than going anonymously to the press and dogging your character out.
Jordan' went way beyond that. He ridiculed teammates, over and over and over. He talked shit about them for years and years. He actually wasn't respectful about it at all. The fact that you respect a person who treats others this way says _a lot_ about you.
yeah no one complaining about the collateral benefits they received like 6 rings and also how visibility dictated television contracts by which the ENTIRE LEAGUE benefited as salary caps and revenue were raised...so in short if you mad...STFU...
The famous Jordan Rules Book the book was real popular on the Last Dance Documentary when Horace Grant lied and told Sam Smith everything about 91 Bulls championship run.
@@bubufubu Horace Grant was a really good Player, important to the Chicago Championships, but he was Traded away, that seems strange, now i have no solid Proof, but someone in that locker room talked, and unless it was Scottie Pippen or Jordan Himself, i don't know, that narrows it down.
@@mmmtsp Pippen almost got traded, as well. Multiple times. There's more than three players on a team. It doesn't have to be one person who talks to the press. It can be multiple people. Not just players. Management, trainers, coaches. Putting it all on one person here, without any proof, is a really, really stupid thing to do. That kind of accusation is incredibly unfair to Grant. Do you 100% trust every single thing that Jordan says? Jack McCallum says he has Jordan, on tape, proclaiming that he wouldn't play on The Dream Team if Isiah is a member. That doesn't line up with what Jordan has told the public over the years.
This was the 1st book I ever read. Alot of people don't understand, its not about Jordan being mean. He wasn't. He did whatever he had to do to elevate his teammates intensity to win championships for the city of Chicago. Its just that when this book came out (Late 1991, early 1992) he was viewed as perfect
@@stevyluv743 You do KNOW Kobe grew up in Europe and said he had no idea who Jordan was growing up? That it was Magic and Bird he emulated. ua-cam.com/video/5R_HEXTnuqo/v-deo.html
@@bubufubu first, that was horace grant lying his ass over there. Second, we as fans already knew jordan's drive and determination. There was no "exposing". Winning has a cost. Winning consistently has a even higher cost. Can you be a nice guy and win, yeah. Can you be a nice guy and go undefeated in the finals, no.
@@ricosauve5 This is nothing more than bullshit justifications on your part. Congrats on enabling a person to act like a piece of shit to other people because....winning. How about you show the rest of us all the evidence you've got of Bill Russell and Wayne Gretzky regularly acting like an asshole to their teammates, year in and year out. Oh, wait. You can't.
@@ricosauve5 How ridiculous can you be? Realistically, people who weren't close to the Bulls or who didn't personally know Jordan didn't know about this shit until The Jordan Rules came out. You sure as hell don't speak for me and I wasn't a fucking casual fan of his, either.
Read the book back in the day and do believe some of it but the rest you can tell the author added some extra in there. The media back in the early 90s before that book kind of created this image of MJ as almost perfect. To the point they thought MJ did no wrong. Most people with some sense knew MJ was tough and to be that way and win can only be done via ruthlessness. To win like he did it is the only way. As I said people with half a brain knew better than to believe the image but at the same time people knew not to believe everything in that book either. Remember, MJ about that life and always will be whether as a player or an owner.
Have any of you read the book or any other book by the author. It’s unofficial a team source said or another team source said. Nothing emotional about it. Who said it best. Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing and that was MJ’s satay of mind. I hated MJ in the 80s and 90s. Bad Boys all the way, now that is a team I will get emotional about. Nobody ever brings them up as possibly the greatest team. I mean they had to go through Bird and the Celtics, MJ and the Bulls and then Magic and the Lakers. So yeah not made up shit but the book can also be seen the same. What was made up was everything the book and the image of MJ. He is a man that eats, bleeds and shits like everyone. The difference is he really believed in that state of mind in that Vince Lombardi quote.
This pretty much sums up Jordan. www.sportscasting.com/michael-jordan-poisoned-the-locker-room-so-badly-his-wizards-teammates-refused-to-buy-him-a-retirement-gift/ "“The most damning thing I remember hearing. And God rest his soul, I can give up his anonymity now: Wes Unseld told me this,” Understandably, Wise asked Unseld how he knew that Jordan had ruined the locker room. The big man responded with a damning piece of evidence. “How do I know that? I just went around and asked every player if they would chip in for a retirement gift for him, give him something nice. All of them turned their backs on me,” Unseld explained, according to Wise’s retelling. “And [Wise] said, “Every player?” And [Unseld] goes, “Unanimous.”
@I Am King Apparently, I'm not the only one. EVERYBODY hated him so much they wouldn't pay one red cent to buy him a retirement gift. After his "last dance" garbage Pippen said it backfired because people got to see the kind of person he is. Ouch. Heck, he forced his own wife to do a paternity test before he would admit parentage of his own son. Pretty EASY guy to hate by EVERYBODY, wouldn't you say?
And none of them would even be known if it wasn't for Jordan. Horace Grant left and didn't win another chip until getting with Shaq and a Jordanesque Kobe Bryant.
@@antaveus "And none of them would even be known if it wasn't for Jordan." Hahahaha! Wes Unseld was a Hall of Famer as a player, then was a respected coach and GM for decades before the stench of Jordan's Wizard years sullied his legacy.
@@antaveus "Horace Grant left and didn't win another chip until getting with Shaq and a Jordanesque Kobe Bryant." That's just plain STUPID. Horace Grant made his only Allstar game the year Jordan left. He then was offered big money to go to Orlando and left, and the Bulls missed him in 1995 more than they missed Jordan the year before. Then, that season Jordan returns to the Bulls and Grant DESTROYED the Bulls in the playoffs with Jordan. The next year he gets hurt and misses the ECF and the Bulls, with Rodman, sweep the Magic. Notice a trend? He then joined the Lakers and won another title. He and Pippen carried the ball hog Jordan to titles, not the other way around.
@@scabootie You're the one making the accusation. The onus is on you to back it up. And since you're singling out Grant, why don't you go ahead and prove to the rest of us that Grant is the only one who talked, as well. Otherwise, you're just talking shit.
@@scabootie I watched every single episode, months ago. My problem here is with people like you singling out Horace Grant without any proof that he is the only person who shared team issues with Sam Smith. You're trying to put it all on Grant. I could understand if Jordan had only treated Grant that way but that's not the case. It's many people over many years. You truly believe that only one person is gonna speak up to Smith about that stuff? You believe Grant was the only guy because Jordan said so? You think Jordan hasn't ever lied and everything he says is always 100% the truth? We're talking about a guy who cheated on his wife, many times, and who still won't come clean about his part in keeping Isiah off The Dream Team. Who cares if Grant told things to Smith? Jordan deserves to be called out for that stuff because you shouldn't treat people that way. This isn't the fucking mafia, either. You're probably one of these guys who says "snitches get stitches". Maybe someone from Team Jordan ought to put a hit out on Grant for opening his mouth? Would that make you feel better? You rush to the video to post a comment about Grant being a snitch. Why? Can't handle Jordan being called out so you feel obligated to defend him? It's ok for you to talk shit about Horace Grant but not ok for others to call out Jordan? FYI, Sam Smith isn't the only person to write about Jordan being a dick. Michael Leahy did it many years later while covering Jordan's time with the Wizards.
It's interesting the perception that was of Jordan at this time, nobody believed the book was factual because they thought Jordan was such a nice guy and wouldn't say the things written about him.
Lol I hope you’re a woman. Hahaha what kind of a man judges a mans looks? You know if u a man is ugly? I’m getting if u can tell a man is ugly then u know if a man is cute? 🤣🤣🤣 Pretty common for your generation. A lot of homosexual tendencies. Lol.. I ain’t saying nothing’s wrong with that bruh, live ya life 🤣🤣
I love how he put in the book MJ said Republicans buy shoes too, trying to get the black community to turn on him. Only to come out 30 years later and say Oh MJ said that Jokingly, but at the time he left it out on purpose. No I am not saying that being a Republican as a black man is bad just that Sam Smith used it as a way to get people to hate MJ!
For all you jordan fans defending him if MJ treated y'all the way he treated his teammates in that book y'all would either cry like babies or be plotting on deleting him
LOL. The announcer called him "the GOAT" in 1992 with one measly title after getting bounced in the first round three times and having 3 sub .500 seasons. I don't wanna hear anymore crap about "legacy".
@I Am King I hate BULLSHIT is all. Different rules were made up as Jordan went along and the same people keep adjusting it as LeBron hunts him down. First, it was "eye test" when Lebron was still young and raw, then when LeBron started destroying him statistically in Cleveland "legacy" was the new word, which made LeBron to go to Miami to chase "not one, not two" blah blah blah, then as LeBron gets more titles, it's now back to "eye test". Pure poppycock. Quite frankly, I don't know why LeBron or anybody takes this "goat" GARBAGE seriously. People just make it up as they go along.
@I Am King You guys say the most completely illogical things. When you say "accomplishments and accolades", you are ONLY talking raw scoring ONLY. Wilt MURDERS him in rebounds, I believe 25-5 rebounds a game. Wilt also DESTROYS him in scoring. Jordan had five 60 point games, Wilt had 32. Jordan had 31 50 point games. Wilt had 113. Jordan had 173 40 point games. Wilt had 271. Jordan had 25 career triple doubles, including just TWO in the playoffs. Wilt had 78. By ANY measure, Wilt DWARFS Jordan statistically. So, we have to move the goalposts and say that stats don't MATTER anymore in Jordan v Wilt GOAT debate. Winning is everything now. Than, you say, welllll, if winning MATTERED, WHY is this guy calling Jordan with three sub .500 seasons and ONE title the GOAT when Magic was still playing and he had ZERO losing seasons, 5 titles, 9 Finals appearances and 3 MVPs? What is Jordan's legacy compared to Magics? WOOOOOO, did we say "legacy"? No, it doesn't matter what Magic has DONE!! It's the "eye test", stupid? Now, you see why NOBODY can take this crap seriously?
It's amazing how Lebron fans always bring up Jordan's 1 and 9 playoff record his first 3 years, when Lebron didn't even make the playoffs his first 2 seasons. Lebron never faced an opponent as good as the Boston Celtics in the first round. It's like Lebron facing the Warriors in the first round. Jordan was a one-man show who couldn't beat a team of 4 Hall of Famers by himself. Jordan only had one other all-star and won 3 chips. Lebron had to go join 2 all-stars and hall-of-famer Ray Allen to win 2 and lose 2. If Jordan was like Lebron, when he came back from retirement and went to the Wizards he could have went to the Lakers and won 2 more chips with Kobe and Shaq. He could have went to any team he wanted. .
40 yr old Jordan joined a DEAD Wizards team and got them from 17 to 37 wins🤣. they were 26-20 before his injury. and him and Rip Hamilton went on a 14 game winning streak before he hurt his knee . with him, Bulls never lost 3 games in a row during their title seasons , but without him, they did multiple times . but according to you , he got “CaRriEd” by overrated Pippen and ineffective role player Horace Grant ? Foh delusional clown 🤣
He was already goat way before 6-0 that's why if that's ya argument to why he is goat u ah fool lebron is better because of eyes test and body of work just like Jordan was goat by eye test didn't need 6 rings at the time
they were already referring to him as the goat after his first championship..
He's not the GOAT because he won 6. He won 6 because he's the GOAT
Lol exactly...they had never seen anything like him before..its why kobe could never surpass him, he was just a lesser version of jordan. Lebron has been nba ready since the 10th grade, and is something we have never seen before....but then they started using rings against him to protect their childhood 😂
"Well yeah he's good,, but jordan won 6"
Oh ok
@@ethybubs Well Said & yeah not Because he won 6 Chips He's the True Goat
@@ethybubs nice!!! ✊👍
True, I remember.
Imagine a journalist doing this today to star player today. And they say MJ didn't go throw pressure. Imagine they even said he got his father killed. That is sick. My father died and I would not say that about anyone
His coach and management failed to put a stop to Jordan's behavior. He deserved to be exposed.
@@bubufubu and you need to STFU you ignorant fuck
@Thanatron Ja Shall I give you a bit more time to make further attempts at comprehending my comment?
@Thanatron Ja Then your frontal lobe is inadequate. Try looking into that.
@@bubufubu omg you’re really in every comment section, get out of here bronsexual 😭
This was '91 and they were already calling him the best ever. Wow.
There were GOAT talks during his last year of college and his rookie year. The rings just made him undisputed.
They started calling him "the best ever" after Magic ended the talk of Bird being "the best ever". By calling Jordan "the best ever" (Bird started it in 1986) they had to simply flip the script 180 degrees. Wins and titles and team play no longer mattered. It was back to 1970s hero ball that the media trashed at the beginning of the Bird-Magic era. It was all fascinating.
@@x-man9473 except he's not undisputed. You're just a Jordan worshipper
@@sportstalkonly1442 Why do you creepy obsessive anti-MJ fans go on a MJ highlight channel to complain about MJ. Ya'll weird. lol
@@sportstalkonly1442 Also educated peopel know MJ is the GOAT. The facts point to MJ being the GOAT. So he is undisputed. If uneducated people like yourself want to spin yourself into a circle trying to find other people, so be it. The educated fans will be on a boat waiting for you to catch up with the rest of the world. Enjoy
Jordan could be mean, but I respect a man that tells you to your face how he feels about you rather than going anonymously to the press and dogging your character out.
Jordan' went way beyond that. He ridiculed teammates, over and over and over. He talked shit about them for years and years. He actually wasn't respectful about it at all. The fact that you respect a person who treats others this way says _a lot_ about you.
@@bubufubu you clearly know nothing about the sports world being"mean" is extremely common
@@shadowspear899 That's a pathetic justification on your part.
yeah no one complaining about the collateral benefits they received like 6 rings and also how visibility dictated television contracts by which the ENTIRE LEAGUE benefited as salary caps and revenue were raised...so in short if you mad...STFU...
@@godbodyrock Treating others like shit is ok if other people benefit from it!! 👍
The famous Jordan Rules Book the book was real popular on the Last Dance Documentary when Horace Grant lied and told Sam Smith everything about 91 Bulls championship run.
its funny to see Horace Grant deny everything in the Book, as he is most likely the person who leaked all the Info.
@@mmmtsp According to whom? Has Sam Smith backed this up? Where's your evidence?
Can you prove to the rest of us that Horace Grant lied?
@@bubufubu Horace Grant was a really good Player, important to the Chicago Championships, but he was Traded away, that seems strange, now i have no solid Proof, but someone in that locker room talked, and unless it was Scottie Pippen or Jordan Himself, i don't know, that narrows it down.
@@mmmtsp Pippen almost got traded, as well. Multiple times. There's more than three players on a team. It doesn't have to be one person who talks to the press. It can be multiple people. Not just players. Management, trainers, coaches. Putting it all on one person here, without any proof, is a really, really stupid thing to do. That kind of accusation is incredibly unfair to Grant. Do you 100% trust every single thing that Jordan says? Jack McCallum says he has Jordan, on tape, proclaiming that he wouldn't play on The Dream Team if Isiah is a member. That doesn't line up with what Jordan has told the public over the years.
This was the 1st book I ever read. Alot of people don't understand, its not about Jordan being mean. He wasn't. He did whatever he had to do to elevate his teammates intensity to win championships for the city of Chicago. Its just that when this book came out (Late 1991, early 1992) he was viewed as perfect
Yup...same with Kobe
@@AntwoneAntJackson Truue & the Reason Kobe got his Basketball roots From
The VERY FIRST book you EVER read? Not even the Three Billy Goats Gruff? WHERE did you go to school? I'm actually fascinated.
@@stevyluv743 You do KNOW Kobe grew up in Europe and said he had no idea who Jordan was growing up? That it was Magic and Bird he emulated.
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@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 I Diddnt say nothing About him growing up in Europe i didnt mean Where his real family From Just talking About Basketball period
Just because there wasn't internet, didn't mean jordan didn't get the hate
That doesn't mean that the exposing and criticism of Jordan's behavior toward his teammates wasn't justified.
@@bubufubu first, that was horace grant lying his ass over there. Second, we as fans already knew jordan's drive and determination. There was no "exposing". Winning has a cost. Winning consistently has a even higher cost. Can you be a nice guy and win, yeah. Can you be a nice guy and go undefeated in the finals, no.
@Bee G stuff like that is stuff jordan fans knee about him before the book. It may have been a surprise to the casuals
@@ricosauve5 This is nothing more than bullshit justifications on your part. Congrats on enabling a person to act like a piece of shit to other people because....winning. How about you show the rest of us all the evidence you've got of Bill Russell and Wayne Gretzky regularly acting like an asshole to their teammates, year in and year out. Oh, wait. You can't.
@@ricosauve5 How ridiculous can you be? Realistically, people who weren't close to the Bulls or who didn't personally know Jordan didn't know about this shit until The Jordan Rules came out. You sure as hell don't speak for me and I wasn't a fucking casual fan of his, either.
Read the book back in the day and do believe some of it but the rest you can tell the author added some extra in there. The media back in the early 90s before that book kind of created this image of MJ as almost perfect. To the point they thought MJ did no wrong. Most people with some sense knew MJ was tough and to be that way and win can only be done via ruthlessness. To win like he did it is the only way. As I said people with half a brain knew better than to believe the image but at the same time people knew not to believe everything in that book either. Remember, MJ about that life and always will be whether as a player or an owner.
How exactly can you tell that Sam Smith "added some extra in there"? Do you have any actual proof of this or are _you_ just making shit up?
@OIP ! You're really banging that intelligence drum by assuming emotional state from typed print.
What was made up?
Have any of you read the book or any other book by the author. It’s unofficial a team source said or another team source said. Nothing emotional about it. Who said it best. Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing and that was MJ’s satay of mind. I hated MJ in the 80s and 90s. Bad Boys all the way, now that is a team I will get emotional about. Nobody ever brings them up as possibly the greatest team. I mean they had to go through Bird and the Celtics, MJ and the Bulls and then Magic and the Lakers. So yeah not made up shit but the book can also be seen the same. What was made up was everything the book and the image of MJ. He is a man that eats, bleeds and shits like everyone. The difference is he really believed in that state of mind in that Vince Lombardi quote.
Fk MJ
This pretty much sums up Jordan.
www.sportscasting.com/michael-jordan-poisoned-the-locker-room-so-badly-his-wizards-teammates-refused-to-buy-him-a-retirement-gift/
"“The most damning thing I remember hearing. And God rest his soul, I can give up his anonymity now: Wes Unseld told me this,” Understandably, Wise asked Unseld how he knew that Jordan had ruined the locker room. The big man responded with a damning piece of evidence.
“How do I know that? I just went around and asked every player if they would chip in for a retirement gift for him, give him something nice. All of them turned their backs on me,” Unseld explained, according to Wise’s retelling. “And [Wise] said, “Every player?” And [Unseld] goes, “Unanimous.”
@I Am King Apparently, I'm not the only one. EVERYBODY hated him so much they wouldn't pay one red cent to buy him a retirement gift. After his "last dance" garbage Pippen said it backfired because people got to see the kind of person he is. Ouch. Heck, he forced his own wife to do a paternity test before he would admit parentage of his own son. Pretty EASY guy to hate by EVERYBODY, wouldn't you say?
And none of them would even be known if it wasn't for Jordan. Horace Grant left and didn't win another chip until getting with Shaq and a Jordanesque Kobe Bryant.
@@antaveus "And none of them would even be known if it wasn't for Jordan."
Hahahaha! Wes Unseld was a Hall of Famer as a player, then was a respected coach and GM for decades before the stench of Jordan's Wizard years sullied his legacy.
@@antaveus "Horace Grant left and didn't win another chip until getting with Shaq and a Jordanesque Kobe Bryant."
That's just plain STUPID. Horace Grant made his only Allstar game the year Jordan left. He then was offered big money to go to Orlando and left, and the Bulls missed him in 1995 more than they missed Jordan the year before. Then, that season Jordan returns to the Bulls and Grant DESTROYED the Bulls in the playoffs with Jordan. The next year he gets hurt and misses the ECF and the Bulls, with Rodman, sweep the Magic. Notice a trend? He then joined the Lakers and won another title. He and Pippen carried the ball hog Jordan to titles, not the other way around.
Horace Grant is a snitch
Prove it.
@@bubufubu prove me wrong
@@scabootie You're the one making the accusation. The onus is on you to back it up. And since you're singling out Grant, why don't you go ahead and prove to the rest of us that Grant is the only one who talked, as well. Otherwise, you're just talking shit.
@@bubufubu Chill out and go watch Last Dance.
@@scabootie I watched every single episode, months ago. My problem here is with people like you singling out Horace Grant without any proof that he is the only person who shared team issues with Sam Smith. You're trying to put it all on Grant. I could understand if Jordan had only treated Grant that way but that's not the case. It's many people over many years. You truly believe that only one person is gonna speak up to Smith about that stuff? You believe Grant was the only guy because Jordan said so? You think Jordan hasn't ever lied and everything he says is always 100% the truth? We're talking about a guy who cheated on his wife, many times, and who still won't come clean about his part in keeping Isiah off The Dream Team.
Who cares if Grant told things to Smith? Jordan deserves to be called out for that stuff because you shouldn't treat people that way. This isn't the fucking mafia, either. You're probably one of these guys who says "snitches get stitches". Maybe someone from Team Jordan ought to put a hit out on Grant for opening his mouth? Would that make you feel better? You rush to the video to post a comment about Grant being a snitch. Why? Can't handle Jordan being called out so you feel obligated to defend him? It's ok for you to talk shit about Horace Grant but not ok for others to call out Jordan?
FYI, Sam Smith isn't the only person to write about Jordan being a dick. Michael Leahy did it many years later while covering Jordan's time with the Wizards.
It's interesting the perception that was of Jordan at this time, nobody believed the book was factual because they thought Jordan was such a nice guy and wouldn't say the things written about him.
Geez. His fans have always rode his nuts and defended him. His teammates literally confirmed all this to be true.
Well yea of course he got ego cuz he making bank off shoes, the story from Chamillionaire I believe 💯
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Amazing
That’s probably your real father. Lol.
@@kristion9774 Amazing
@@Gameee01 I’m just fuckin around.
Yeah. ONE guy and that is representative of the entire population. Good job lol
Lol I hope you’re a woman. Hahaha what kind of a man judges a mans looks? You know if u a man is ugly? I’m getting if u can tell a man is ugly then u know if a man is cute? 🤣🤣🤣
Pretty common for your generation. A lot of homosexual tendencies. Lol.. I ain’t saying nothing’s wrong with that bruh, live ya life
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I love how he put in the book MJ said Republicans buy shoes too, trying to get the black community to turn on him. Only to come out 30 years later and say Oh MJ said that Jokingly, but at the time he left it out on purpose. No I am not saying that being a Republican as a black man is bad just that Sam Smith used it as a way to get people to hate MJ!
For all you jordan fans defending him if MJ treated y'all the way he treated his teammates in that book y'all would either cry like babies or be plotting on deleting him
LOL. The announcer called him "the GOAT" in 1992 with one measly title after getting bounced in the first round three times and having 3 sub .500 seasons. I don't wanna hear anymore crap about "legacy".
@I Am King I hate BULLSHIT is all. Different rules were made up as Jordan went along and the same people keep adjusting it as LeBron hunts him down. First, it was "eye test" when Lebron was still young and raw, then when LeBron started destroying him statistically in Cleveland "legacy" was the new word, which made LeBron to go to Miami to chase "not one, not two" blah blah blah, then as LeBron gets more titles, it's now back to "eye test". Pure poppycock. Quite frankly, I don't know why LeBron or anybody takes this "goat" GARBAGE seriously. People just make it up as they go along.
@I Am King You guys say the most completely illogical things. When you say "accomplishments and accolades", you are ONLY talking raw scoring ONLY. Wilt MURDERS him in rebounds, I believe 25-5 rebounds a game. Wilt also DESTROYS him in scoring. Jordan had five 60 point games, Wilt had 32. Jordan had 31 50 point games. Wilt had 113. Jordan had 173 40 point games. Wilt had 271. Jordan had 25 career triple doubles, including just TWO in the playoffs. Wilt had 78. By ANY measure, Wilt DWARFS Jordan statistically. So, we have to move the goalposts and say that stats don't MATTER anymore in Jordan v Wilt GOAT debate. Winning is everything now.
Than, you say, welllll, if winning MATTERED, WHY is this guy calling Jordan with three sub .500 seasons and ONE title the GOAT when Magic was still playing and he had ZERO losing seasons, 5 titles, 9 Finals appearances and 3 MVPs? What is Jordan's legacy compared to Magics? WOOOOOO, did we say "legacy"? No, it doesn't matter what Magic has DONE!! It's the "eye test", stupid? Now, you see why NOBODY can take this crap seriously?
It's amazing how Lebron fans always bring up Jordan's 1 and 9 playoff record his first 3 years, when Lebron didn't even make the playoffs his first 2 seasons. Lebron never faced an opponent as good as the Boston Celtics in the first round. It's like Lebron facing the Warriors in the first round. Jordan was a one-man show who couldn't beat a team of 4 Hall of Famers by himself. Jordan only had one other all-star and won 3 chips. Lebron had to go join 2 all-stars and hall-of-famer Ray Allen to win 2 and lose 2. If Jordan was like Lebron, when he came back from retirement and went to the Wizards he could have went to the Lakers and won 2 more chips with Kobe and Shaq. He could have went to any team he wanted. .
40 yr old Jordan joined a DEAD Wizards team and got them from 17 to 37 wins🤣. they were 26-20 before his injury. and him and Rip Hamilton went on a 14 game winning streak before he hurt his knee . with him, Bulls never lost 3 games in a row during their title seasons , but without him, they did multiple times . but according to you , he got “CaRriEd” by overrated Pippen and ineffective role player Horace Grant ? Foh delusional clown 🤣
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443
Compare Wilt and Jordan’s stats in the playoffs, clown. Wilt was a stat ladder and a playoff choker when it mattered most
lebron rules book?
If the game changes so it's easier for you you're not the GOAT
He was already goat way before 6-0 that's why if that's ya argument to why he is goat u ah fool lebron is better because of eyes test and body of work just like Jordan was goat by eye test didn't need 6 rings at the time
MJ came before Lebron ofc Lebron won’t get the same treatment 🤣😭