Steinway VS. Fazioli | Restored Piano Comparison
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woa its so weird hearing the comparison when the fazioli is just the littlest bit flatter then the steinway
Man the Fazioli is so clean and pure.
Fabbrini is a Steinway modified by a piano tuner in Italy named Fabbrini. It is not a Fazioli they are two separate piano's.
@@user-qx8hx4hc6plooks like Fabiola to me.
@@user-qx8hx4hc6p It is a Fazioli. period
steinway: beer mug
Faziolio: wine jar
Steinway is great.
It is, I’ve got some videos on my channel from Steinway hall :-)
I have heard a lot of different opinions about fazioli, At first I also thought there was nothing particularly surprising about it, it didn't sound as warm as kawai or other grand pianos, in my opinion it is very sensitive to touch and you can change the tone co-ordinally, and if you hear his bass in real life, then he seems to growl, the sound literally snatches my soul.
What I love about Fabiola is about how it’s extremely sensitive to touch, that’s what makes it so special. Playing fantaisie impromptu on a Fazioli is a crazy experience
I rather like both instruments. I find the Fazioli has very noble and homogeneous ring throughout the registers, whereas the Steinway is an ensemble of „Soloists“.
Fazioli vs Steinway - Chorus vs Soloist.
I do play both and love both, have a look at my channel for lots of Steinway videos 😊
I do get to play both every week and I love both, I will call in to see next time I’m near you 🎹😊
We are looking forward to see you! 🥰
Fazioli is mellower, darker in the lows and has more harmonious highs, Steinway is more direct and has a better controlled and bright lows and less shining highs, I see them one as more romantic while the other more classic/baroque
Which one is more suited for romantic and which one is for classic/baroque?
@@weiliu3623 Fazioli for romantic, Stenway for baroque. Chopin and Beethoven sound amazing on the Fazioli, so deep.
Excellent analysis. You must be a musician!
@@tbarrelier I played piano for 10 years, but more than that I love classical music and have been listening it all my life, I'm very accustomed to the nuances
@@Augustus_Imperator 60 years ago I stumbled upon WJZZ out of Bridgeport, CT. They played "The 100 Most Popular Classical Performances" which had been picked by Leonard Bernstein. From age 14 to when I entered the army 3 years later I listened to the major classical repertoire for several hours a day. These works became imprinted in my brain. They were food for my soul. I can't say why this music affected me so, but it has. Without music, this world would be a lot worse than it already is!
I only know two people with a baby grand Steinway. Both pianos are from the late 1800s. My aunt teaches piano lessons on hers. It's otherwise a conversation piece because they enjoy showing off, pretending that they're not showing off. I don't think my neighbors play theirs at all. I think I may have played it once, 25 years ago.
Here Fazioli is tuned slightly deeper, don’t know why.
Wenn man schon den Vergleich anstellt, dann bitte
einen Steinway S (155 cm) gegen einen FAZIOLI F156.
Oder auch einen Steinway B gegen einen FAZIOLI F212.
Abgesehen davon, daß beide Flügel im Diskant intoniert
werden sollte, schlägt sich der kleine FAZIOLI gegen den
"B" im Baß erstaunlich gut und ist in jedem Fall das in
sich ausgeglichenere Instrument.
It's depends on a million things.
Of course one is , the exact year and model, but the most important factor is the personal
preferences... both have advantages and disadvantages to the other. On this level , there are no objective judgment is available. It's up to the question
what's more important for you ...
For me , the robust powerful bass
section of the Hamburg Steinway is really impressive. ( I am usually
not too impresed of the American Steinway...) -- the Fazioli is better in other sound requirements.
I liked Fazioli as expected. Then blind tested it and found Steinway was actually better. It could be due to microphones placement and many other factors, not talking about proper device to play the sound from UA-cam (not a phone, lol!)
personally like Fazioli more
I have to say i prefer the rich bloom of the Steinway.
是非一度弾いてみたく素晴らしいです✨✨✨
Bost sound outstanding. But I have to say, if I had to make an on the spot choice it would be the Fazioli. It just had that little extra "sparkle" that set it apart. Without a side-by-side nobody would know the difference. And it all depends on the acoustic environment.
I wonder how many people who had the chance to play both would give the nod to Steinway.
I certainly don’t. A well voiced (Hamburg) Steinway is a very fine instrument, but boy, Fazioli is in its own league.
スタインウェイは全てが平均的に聴こえて柔らかい
ピアノと言えばこの音というような音ソロ向け
対してファツィオリはメロディラインがはっきりしていて
アタックが聞こえやすく鋭い音がとても綺麗で協奏曲向け
逆な気がした。
@@tetsuji4.5
まぁ音って数値はあっても正解はないからねぇ
自分はスタインウェイはソロで聞きたいと思いましたね
Sayonara Kombaya Watashi Ama kakeru ryu no hirameki
I prefer the old Steinway, surprisingly.
I do play both and love both, have a look at my channel for lots of Steinway videos 😊
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!
Old 6 foot 4 parlor Steinway has my vote. They are not made anymore. either is a good piano by Steinway. 73
Everyone plays these nocturnes and stuff at pianissimo. Beautiful, yes, but there is so much more to the colour spectrum. I want to hear the thunderous octaved bass notes at fff...
Fazioli seems far more rich and deep.
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!.
Steinway moved to China. New York wake up you are in for self destruction in your ways. Let's move everything to China and put out garbage for products. I would rather buy a Hamburg Steinway any day. But I'm for the old sound and keep the old strings and soundboard. The action can be regulated and the hammers voiced. Steinway is a was was. 73
I completely disagree
Fazioli...amazing clarity !
I'd love to see a Bechstein in this line up, absolutely the undefeated king of bass and color. Maybe not the best choice for light handed players but if you want rich massive warmth it's the way to go
The 1914 Bluthner 190cm Aliquot grand is my preference
I think it would be more fair to compare an f156 to a model s which is the same size
if you close your eyes you are going to notive the stein has more body but the fazioli has more clarity. Clarity is probably a better choice because you can add more body afterwards when recording.
Can you tune at the same pitch?
Idk I kinda like the Steinway rebuilt piano better. Seems more lively. But the Fazioli is pretty also. 😊
I wouldn't go to a shop where they don't take the effort to tune piano's before comparing them.
So it isn’t only me. the Fazioli sounds out of tune.
Fazioli ❤ on gem Genesys and promega
It seems to me the tone of the Fazioli is more focused, lazer-like, if you will. Also, it sounded to me that the Steinway had a "twangy" component to its timbre. I would buy the Fazioli. Of course, hearing is ultimately subjective!
Steinway seems more classic and mellow. More full spunding. Fazioli spunds reallu cheap and harsh. At least it does with the bigger versions. The smaller 7-8 foot version is very bright and youthful sounding which I like.
I thought the Steinway sounded more mellow.
quelle musique est jouer ? what's music is play?
Fazioli is very expensive but the sound is richer but I don’t know if it’s better. It depends on the piano model. He might be comparing a very expensive Fazioli piano to a cheaper Steinway piano.
Or the Steinway piano is just a little out of tune. I also like Steinway.
Fazioli sounds natural very natural with clear separations
I am not sure what models are they and how they were restored but Ss is very sensitive to touchdown pressure and has a very obvious audible release control window while the F in this video is less in both, while the player has not got the kind of control the SS requires and thus a lot of people will think F is better
in fact fazioli is more sensitive on the keys
Fazioli is my favourite. A wonderfully clear-sounding instrument. Super!
どっちも欲しい😅😂💓✨
I think fazioli sounds pure & better
In this matchup, the S&S is more harminiously blended, seeping through the room, while the Fazioli has a more focused powerful beam-forming resonance that almost electrifies with its buzzing
Such comparisons should be blind tests
Fazioli ❤
if comparing on planes - Steinway is more like premium business jet while Fazioli more like 5-th gen interceptor. you'll get deep and most importantly consistent sound in Steinway but that consistency is a trade-off, and you will never be able to reach variability and expressiveness of Fazioli there. and if you are not at least experienced pianist your performance most certainly than not will sound like s*t on Fazioli even if its tolerable to hear on Steinway. real pro instrument which will not tolerate hands be growing from a bit lower than back.
I just hear them as different and not necessarily better than each other. Piano sound is very subject. I have heard both Steinway and Fazioli in person. My preference being Steinway.
In my opinion Fazioli sounds less tuned than Steinway. Just a little bit~:)
Fazioli got the edge!
They both sound as if they need fine tuning?
Yeah, sure... tell us more
Fazioli hands down
Очень большая разница в звуке инструментов. Скорее всего данная разница возникла из-за разных условий записи. А как они звучат "в натуре"?
Steinway
Nice Fazioli, but: 212 cm vs 156 cm - not a fair comparison! Steinway's sound is richer and deeper, what a wonder. The Fazioli doesn't stand a chance, all those who speak out in favor of the Fazioli have not yet heard it in real life.
Pas le même diapason, mal accordés, c'est pas très sérieux comme comparaison, mais l'idée est bien pour deux marques de prestige
Fazioli by a nose.
That fazioli sounds flat. Tune it first then compare. Between these 2 the Steinway
In general, Fazioli is better.
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!
Both amazing piano's, but that Steinway needs a pair of better looking legs, in my opinion.
Fazioli absolutely knocks Steinway out of the park, you can hear the clarity and detail in every nuance in the Fazioli, and the warmth and character in every soft mellow note up to the bright, powerful and open fortissimos, the tonal abilities of the Fazioli absolutely dwarf the Steinway here in every aspect!
A great demonstration of what real craftsmanship does to a piano's sound compared to Steinway!
I have to say though, as far as Steinways go this is a pretty great one, usually they sound a lot more dead compared to this, is this a restored instrument? I find restored Steinways tend to sound significantly better than original ones, probably why Steinway sue restorers lol
I'm not a fan of Steinways but my perception on this particular video was the exact opposite of what you stated, I thought the sound of the Steinway was more detailed and had a warmth and clarity very lacking on the Fazioli. After reading your comment I went back and rewatched the video, I'm using a high quality sony headphones and still could not agree with you, how bizarre.
@@Erainia technically only the official restored Steinway can be called a genuine “restored Steinway “, otherwise it no longer a “Steinway”
@@Erainia I bet you never see a genuine restored Steinway or a well break in and prepared new one by top technician. So stop the BS
@@FrancisAsin-Gioro i mean i literally work in my country's top piano restorations firm, so yeah, I have lmao.
The comparison methodology is fundamentally incorrect! It is necessary to play the same music on both instruments.
there is no comparison. Fazioli timbre is one of the poorest in the market. things is that Steinway here is not well regulated, but it has way more sound, with smooth attack. no other piano is like this.
Clean your hears, no comparison is because this Fazioli is a baby grand
That’s BS
Fazioli Timbre is one of the most resplendent, brilliant recognizable timbre. When you hear one you are struck by it and you know its a Fazioli. A Kawai can be Mistaken for a Steinway; NOTHING can be mistaken for a Fazioli.
@@hastensavoir7782 brilliant, not warm. it is not a rich tone, it is a brilliant one with a sharp attack, which cannot create colors blending notes.
@@LuisKolodin Damn right you are it’s not Warm. Not everyone is a fanatic of WARM. Bosendorfer, Bechstein and so many others aren’t exactly Colorful neither unlike a Mason & Hamlin and Steinway. Fazioli is designed to have a Sunny resonance akin to Italian Opera. The way it should be.
In this case Fazioli the winner
99% people watching here never really try or afford to own a well regulated new Steinway or Fazioli. You comparison is nonsense. At least should be a Steinway model C vs Fazioli 228. For Fazioli, 228 is significantly better than a 212. A Steinway B211 is better than O180 all round
Your comment is as inspiring as not creating the video. Thank you for the humour. Also, thanks for the suggestion on the model Steinway Model C Vs 228 Fazioli, we have got a model C, just waiting on the 228 and we will create the video for you 🙏
Well, i have to say that i had the Honor to play a Fazioli in the hall of the factory because i live near Sacile (Veneto). I have to say that Is something that Is not comparable with other pianos. It has something celestial, unique
fazioli is the best piano in the world!
hire a decent pianist