@@phillipbanes5484 You're just being an ass. He was debating in good faith, you just want to win an argument child. Apple did something good here and you go out of your way to try and ignore it. Sad and pathetic. And if you are truly debating in good faith you would have mentioned all that, but you didn't. 😬
It always was removable? What are you on about? People speak without thinking don’t they, bet if it was a Samsung product you’d would have known that. But since it’s Apple you don’t care. And only care about talking trash and getting hundreds of likes when a simple google search proves you are wrong. But good on the other 200+ sheep who just think your right because “Apple bad of course he right”
Looks like apple is moving away from hard to repair hardware in favor of software locks. To the average Joe it gives the impression that they're moving in the right direction, when in reality they're just tightening their iron grip on the repair industry. Workarounds for soft-locks are harder to pull off.
@@hishnash calibration for what? Touch pads? Batteries? Hall sensors? Displays? If something requires some sort of calibration, Apple can easily calibrate it at the factory, then put that calibration profile on a small chip onboard the part itself. Most, if not all of Apple's soft-locks are just an encrypted key on the replacement part that serves no other purpose than to lock the part.
@@MrFastFox666 sure you can take that approach of cource that means 2 things. 1) adding extra chips to each part that are not needed. (this means extra space, cost, complexity and power). 2) increase the bandwidth of the connection to the part The key is not encrypted it is just a UUID that is used to pull the profile from apples servers. There is no fancy encryption going on as that would require a full Secure Enclave to be added to each and every part. Not exactly saving money there. Touchpads by the way do not have calibration info, but are entirely different between models (eg M1 MBA and M2 MBA have different trackpads... apple moved some of the tracking logic inside the SOC so the data stream is electrically different).
@@hishnash dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, nor do you know how the serialization works. It's not just "simple UUIDs", what you are talking about are TrueTone profiles. There are custom protocols in place that are only used by Apple's servers and only work in diagnostic mode or recovery mode (through either AST2 or RepairCal, depending on device and how the serialization was implemented, RepairCal being the older option). There is no need for a "full secure enclave" as the chips themselves are only readable/writable in these certain modes and ONLY after talking to Apple servers. If it was "not encrypted" someone would have found a way to calibrate FaceID or TouchID modules by now, weird how that hasn't happened yet, huh? Oh, and "Touchpads by the way do not have calibration info", yeah right, that's why Apple is so eager to calibrate MacBook trackpads after almost every repair, as stated in ATLAS. Tell me you've never been Apple certified without telling me you've never been Apple certified.
@@hishnash Apple's soft locks already use extra chips on the device. Not that it matters, as they are super small, often less than 1 mm² and are dirt cheap, but they're there. Many parts such as the battery or the display have some microchips on them anyways, such as the BMS in the battery.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu I never said I hate Apple, I made that comment on an iPad but yes you could say I’m a little salty from spending a lot of money on repairs throughout the years.
I fix it doesn’t care about quality, that’s like their whole thing. Like yes repairability good but the levels ifixit wants is unrealistic, well… when talking apple, anyone else can do anything and they don’t care.
They didn't wanna give this homepod one cause it ould have been incredibly high. They want to continue pushing the narrative that Apple doesn't care about repairs I and sustainability. Ifixit went woke years ago
I wonder if the spatial audio is compromised in any noticeable way due to the fewer tweeters. From the sound tests I've seen in other videos, it sounds pretty similar to the previous one, not noticeably different without having them side by side.
I heard the Homepods 2 recently in a stereo combo, they are not too bad considering they are from Apple, so NOT an audio company AND "smart speakers". But the price for this low end sound experience, sry just NO, if you want good sound even a basic small stereo hifi system does its job But in general, even with this "spatial audio" thing they are not too good, Apple doesnt even allow for measuring via the phone some generated waves to setup the EQ and spatial audio better.
Hola, me compré un HomePod grande de primera generación al cual se le puede hacer un reseteo, enciende y todo lo demás, pero cuando a la hora de conectarse con un dispositivo no lo hace y no sirve de ninguna manera, porque he intentado con dos iPad, con una Mac y con un iPhone y ninguno se pueden enlazar con los HomePod o sea que el problema seguramente sea del HomePod, se queda la luz superior parpadeando pero no aparece ningún dispositivo para enlazarse, necesito tu ayuda para saber más o menos qué es y si me podrías ayudar.
‘Do not touch them’ ‘potentially lethal’ I think that needs more instruction/description. Obviously you have to touch the board - how to do confidently without dying?
Why anybody would even want to do that? You want good sound? No way around proper HiFi, and no soundbars dont count as good sound (just "better" TV sound)
@@AdamsBrew78 guess depends on how you read what I was saying. Given you can take 2 and set them as stereo what I was say just in one flat unit vs 2 cans.
I heard the HomePods 2 recently in a stereo combo, a Apple fanboy wanted to convince me to buy them because i use also Apple devices. Well, they sound "ok" as some sort of bluetooth/smart speakers, but the the tweeter position and reflection based design explains why they sound "so bad" but are somewhat capable of producing not too bad audio with Atmos content and multichannel fakery
Apple Answered this one. Latency matters more for multi-speaker wireless audio. Throughput is much less important. The current 802.11n chipsets were the perfect mix of compatibility (With other homepods) low latency and low power.
“Heat can actually distort audio signals” Is that why my music always seems to play slightly slower during winter and slightly faster in the summer when I’m outside?
rather than that i guess it can be the suspensions of you speakers stiffening up when cold, thus changing its parameters a bit. Also, there should be a slight difference due to temperature and pressure of air itself, albeit i don't know to which degree it impacts it
While heat can distort audio signals the heat sink in this case exists to cool the amplifier at high volumes. Heat only becomes a problem with outdoor concerts and large auditoriums with the air convection sucking out the highs. It means nothing inside a small pod.
I can't believe an electronics channel would be surprised to see a heat sink on a _power_ amplifier. Even class d amps generate a lot of heat when playing loud. The heat sink is required not to burn out the amp chip and has nothing to do with sound quality per se.
Yeah same. From an audio perspective, it's a marginally better device too. I couldn't less with the lack of matter support and also climate sensors as I have a full Netatmo set-up anyway.
I'm almost 100% that at least 2-3 parts are locked, like humidity sensor, and probably some chips as well, I never seen Apple device (except for the original iPod) that has no software locks
Early mac’s, ipod touches and iphone’s didn’t have hardware/software locks (even though some were activated later with software updates). But never the less a shame.
@@hishnash i don't think that humidity sensor need so much calibration, and anyway pixel also have this calibration tool for fingerprint sensor for free on thier site.
The caps in that device are so small that they don't pose any danger in reality. It's not like an old tube tv where you could get zapped 2-3 kV after plugging it off.
A apple product without any glue mess? is this even apple? (i am joking) but apple can improve their repairabbility for example the iphones, ipads, macbooks
What's that weird talk about heat and distortion? This speaker will output tens of watts and even with an efficient amplifier, that chip is gonna dissipate 2-3 Watts. In an enclosure like this speaker, you will need a large-ish head-sink like this one to keep the amplifier chip from overheating and shutting down. That's all.
@@NebukadV Ah well yeah, apparently I was thinking 20-40 watts while writing. I'm just surprised the video author didn't understand that power amps need cooling...
I hate only many, mainly: - overpriced "Pro" devices like iPad Pro, iPhone "Pro" etc - Airpods and Max and whatever exists already, all sound not even close to good enough for the price - HomePods.... for less than the price of a single homepod you can create a AMAZING sounding stereo setup I bought recently for 70$ a pair of ELAC Edition One, i didnt expected too much out of 30 year old HiFi speakers since i was used to good HiFi speakers from 2008-2012 already, but these 70$ speakers impressed me, this 1992 speakers sound better than my 2011 speakers for 2500$ the pair.
it will break on it's own. Search for "HomePod no bass" and you'll find a TON of results demonstrating why putting an overpowered subwoofer into a small package isn't such a great idea.
I highly doubt apple is using a Bluetooth speaker to spy on people when a phone or laptop can gather WAY more data and is likely always powered on and with the user. It just doesnt make sense to use this for spying. plus apple REALLY wants people to think apple devices are the safest devices. The minuscule data this speaker could gather is not eve close to worth the cost of there reputation if they were found out.
You didn't mention that the power cable is REMOVABLE.
Huge win for repairability compare to the first generation.
@Phillip Banes is 'user replaceable' better?
Because you can use any figure-8 style cable.
@@phillipbanes5484 You're just being an ass. He was debating in good faith, you just want to win an argument child.
Apple did something good here and you go out of your way to try and ignore it. Sad and pathetic.
And if you are truly debating in good faith you would have mentioned all that, but you didn't. 😬
yeah i removed my 1st gen power cord all the time. you just have to use some effort
It always was removable? What are you on about?
People speak without thinking don’t they, bet if it was a Samsung product you’d would have known that. But since it’s Apple you don’t care. And only care about talking trash and getting hundreds of likes when a simple google search proves you are wrong. But good on the other 200+ sheep who just think your right because “Apple bad of course he right”
Looks like apple is moving away from hard to repair hardware in favor of software locks. To the average Joe it gives the impression that they're moving in the right direction, when in reality they're just tightening their iron grip on the repair industry. Workarounds for soft-locks are harder to pull off.
What your calling software locks is in fact called calibration profiles.
@@hishnash calibration for what? Touch pads? Batteries? Hall sensors? Displays? If something requires some sort of calibration, Apple can easily calibrate it at the factory, then put that calibration profile on a small chip onboard the part itself. Most, if not all of Apple's soft-locks are just an encrypted key on the replacement part that serves no other purpose than to lock the part.
@@MrFastFox666 sure you can take that approach of cource that means 2 things.
1) adding extra chips to each part that are not needed. (this means extra space, cost, complexity and power).
2) increase the bandwidth of the connection to the part
The key is not encrypted it is just a UUID that is used to pull the profile from apples servers. There is no fancy encryption going on as that would require a full Secure Enclave to be added to each and every part. Not exactly saving money there.
Touchpads by the way do not have calibration info, but are entirely different between models (eg M1 MBA and M2 MBA have different trackpads... apple moved some of the tracking logic inside the SOC so the data stream is electrically different).
@@hishnash dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, nor do you know how the serialization works. It's not just "simple UUIDs", what you are talking about are TrueTone profiles. There are custom protocols in place that are only used by Apple's servers and only work in diagnostic mode or recovery mode (through either AST2 or RepairCal, depending on device and how the serialization was implemented, RepairCal being the older option). There is no need for a "full secure enclave" as the chips themselves are only readable/writable in these certain modes and ONLY after talking to Apple servers. If it was "not encrypted" someone would have found a way to calibrate FaceID or TouchID modules by now, weird how that hasn't happened yet, huh?
Oh, and "Touchpads by the way do not have calibration info", yeah right, that's why Apple is so eager to calibrate MacBook trackpads after almost every repair, as stated in ATLAS. Tell me you've never been Apple certified without telling me you've never been Apple certified.
@@hishnash Apple's soft locks already use extra chips on the device. Not that it matters, as they are super small, often less than 1 mm² and are dirt cheap, but they're there. Many parts such as the battery or the display have some microchips on them anyways, such as the BMS in the battery.
An actual repairable HomePod, without glue? Apple is (slowly) improving. I hope they'll keep on improving on the repairability.
Not really, the glue must be proving to be more expensive that's why they removed it.
@@ashyouknow7420 I assume this is a joke. Glue costs virtually nothing
@@ashyouknow7420 Lmao
Wow, so it's possible to make 3 min video instead of 20min and include all info I needed? Great editing!
Apple still has a way to go (especially with their laptops and phones) in terms of repairability, but good to know they are making some progress.
Progress? I thought they made their products impossible to repair on purpose.
@@Idkmanihatethis It's totally repairable now, did you watch the video or you are drowned in Apple Hate?
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Eh, it's possible to disassemble it, sure, but whether anyone could actually get parts to repair them is another story.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu I never said I hate Apple, I made that comment on an iPad but yes you could say I’m a little salty from spending a lot of money on repairs throughout the years.
Repairabilty? Repairabilty means nothing if parts are paired, and there are plenty of software locks that prevent 3rd party replacement.
Good to see Apple improve in different things.
First Gen was really magic device, but literally sealed, this is close to perfect device. Thanks iFixit
Showing the drivers and their specs would have been nice.
It's iFixIt ... not iDeviceSpecIt.
There’s a wide range in quality/price in the driver market..I’m also curious how they stack up. Does Apple make them?
Also would’ve been nice if they compared against the HomePod gen 1 throughout the teardown… seems like a no brainer..
laziness nowadays sheeesh
I fix it doesn’t care about quality, that’s like their whole thing.
Like yes repairability good but the levels ifixit wants is unrealistic, well… when talking apple, anyone else can do anything and they don’t care.
The subwoofer is a hard hitting audio beast! The updates are makeing impressive sound quality upgrades
That woofer looks quality what a beaut
What happened to repair scores? 😭
They didn't wanna give this homepod one cause it ould have been incredibly high. They want to continue pushing the narrative that Apple doesn't care about repairs I and sustainability. Ifixit went woke years ago
@@ozordiprince9405 I'll wait for iFixIt to respond. I'm so over these tinfoil hat ideas with arguably questionable grammar to match.
@@mako3010 go kick rocks buddy. My apologies that my comment I wrote in 20 seconds and immediately moved on from didn't meet your High standards
screws and gaskets are great, especially for something big enough that just sits on the desk
I wonder if the spatial audio is compromised in any noticeable way due to the fewer tweeters. From the sound tests I've seen in other videos, it sounds pretty similar to the previous one, not noticeably different without having them side by side.
I heard the Homepods 2 recently in a stereo combo, they are not too bad considering they are from Apple, so NOT an audio company AND "smart speakers". But the price for this low end sound experience, sry just NO, if you want good sound even a basic small stereo hifi system does its job
But in general, even with this "spatial audio" thing they are not too good, Apple doesnt even allow for measuring via the phone some generated waves to setup the EQ and spatial audio better.
Awesome Job Apple!!!! Can't wait to get mine
Yay you're almost 1 million subscribers
Proud of Apple for this. Step in the right direction.
good job
Me: watching the video
HomePod Mini: *Crackling intensifies*
Love your videos :) would you consider doing a teardown of the new Sonos speakers; Era 100 & Era 300?
No repairability score?
999k subscribers! 😮
2:02 DO NOT TOUCH THEM.
2:04 Removed by hands.
Hola, me compré un HomePod grande de primera generación al cual se le puede hacer un reseteo, enciende y todo lo demás, pero cuando a la hora de conectarse con un dispositivo no lo hace y no sirve de ninguna manera, porque he intentado con dos iPad, con una Mac y con un iPhone y ninguno se pueden enlazar con los HomePod o sea que el problema seguramente sea del HomePod, se queda la luz superior parpadeando pero no aparece ningún dispositivo para enlazarse, necesito tu ayuda para saber más o menos qué es y si me podrías ayudar.
Looks nice. And it's time that even Samsung should give us the Bixby Smart speaker.
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We love you Nic! Keep being awesome :)
‘Do not touch them’ ‘potentially lethal’ I think that needs more instruction/description. Obviously you have to touch the board - how to do confidently without dying?
holy crap they're so close to 1mil
This is great to see.
thanks
I want to see someone DIY at last 2 together. Like make a sound bar out of the 2 home pods. Possibly make it work as one unit.
Why anybody would even want to do that?
You want good sound? No way around proper HiFi, and no soundbars dont count as good sound (just "better" TV sound)
That would defeat the purpose of buying a stereo pair. You need stereo separation to get the best sound.
@@AdamsBrew78 guess depends on how you read what I was saying. Given you can take 2 and set them as stereo what I was say just in one flat unit vs 2 cans.
That’s look kind of easy to tear down.
I love it good 👍
No repairability score???
I heard the HomePods 2 recently in a stereo combo, a Apple fanboy wanted to convince me to buy them because i use also Apple devices.
Well, they sound "ok" as some sort of bluetooth/smart speakers, but the the tweeter position and reflection based design explains why they sound "so bad" but are somewhat capable of producing not too bad audio with Atmos content and multichannel fakery
correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this homepod use 802.11n still? surely Apple could have at least fitted AC, whih my 2015 HP Pavilion has...
300mbps for audio is plenty enough though right?
@@Mooooooof doesn’t HomeKit secure Video go through the host device which this HomePod would be?
Apple Answered this one. Latency matters more for multi-speaker wireless audio. Throughput is much less important. The current 802.11n chipsets were the perfect mix of compatibility (With other homepods) low latency and low power.
It's because of the Watch SOC they use. The Watch only has 802.11n.
Can you add a headphone jack IN?
0:57 What are these gold contacts on the bottom for?
Its a debug port, presumably used by Apple to load software or run diagnostics.
Every new video they upload is shorter than the previous one. They don't mention the details anymore
Anyone catch the part number on the amplifier chip?
We took a close look at every chip in our teardown, the amp is a TPA3255!!! No wonder it needs cooling
Where could I but that subwoofer? The only thing that apple made that's decent. Anyone? Thanks!
Nobody has disassembled the tweeters
Where is the Galaxy S23 Teardown?????
1:20 AMOGUS??
Does anybody know where we could see which IC used on PCB?
I want to know
We looked at every single chip inside in our teardown! Check it out :)
“Heat can actually distort audio signals” Is that why my music always seems to play slightly slower during winter and slightly faster in the summer when I’m outside?
rather than that i guess it can be the suspensions of you speakers stiffening up when cold, thus changing its parameters a bit. Also, there should be a slight difference due to temperature and pressure of air itself, albeit i don't know to which degree it impacts it
While heat can distort audio signals the heat sink in this case exists to cool the amplifier at high volumes. Heat only becomes a problem with outdoor concerts and large auditoriums with the air convection sucking out the highs. It means nothing inside a small pod.
I guess the heat sink is there so the temperature sensor won’t get extremely inaccurate when playing music loud for a long period of time?
I can't believe an electronics channel would be surprised to see a heat sink on a _power_ amplifier. Even class d amps generate a lot of heat when playing loud. The heat sink is required not to burn out the amp chip and has nothing to do with sound quality per se.
the magnet is not neodymium 😥
02:18 Heat can distort audio signals... What???
To create a analog signal you need an oscillator, as things heat up they grow that effects the frequency of an oscillator.
Yes, heat *can* distort audio signals. Catch up!
Managed to get 2 x 1st gen HomePods cheaper than the price of one of these. ☺️
Yeah same. From an audio perspective, it's a marginally better device too. I couldn't less with the lack of matter support and also climate sensors as I have a full Netatmo set-up anyway.
@@beanbaguk HomePod 1 has matter
I'm almost 100% that at least 2-3 parts are locked, like humidity sensor, and probably some chips as well, I never seen Apple device (except for the original iPod) that has no software locks
Early mac’s, ipod touches and iphone’s didn’t have hardware/software locks (even though some were activated later with software updates). But never the less a shame.
@@rtownz251251 year, new m2 MacBooks, everything is software locked, screen, keyboard, trackpad , cpu+ram for sure.
highly doubt it.
Any physical world sensor needs calibration to be of any use. What your calling a lock is the lack of the calibration profile
@@hishnash i don't think that humidity sensor need so much calibration, and anyway pixel also have this calibration tool for fingerprint sensor for free on thier site.
What kind of battery is that inside?
There is no battery inside.
That's a capacitor. Like he said. Don't touch them.
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But honestly the best way to get an apple product repaired is to let them do it .
but theres no bass its all Mids
You just know there are software locks
Are we gonna see a Galaxy S23 teardown?...
Do not touch them - he keep going without any glove 😅
The caps in that device are so small that they don't pose any danger in reality. It's not like an old tube tv where you could get zapped 2-3 kV after plugging it off.
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Maybe Apple is tired of getting sued so much.
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999K subscribers
Screws not glues FTW 👍
A apple product without any glue mess? is this even apple? (i am joking) but apple can improve their repairabbility for example the iphones, ipads, macbooks
Try power it using an ipad battery
Not a fan of the homepod but definitely a fan of ifixit. Great teardown
Why aren’t you a fan of the HomePod?
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AmongUs 1:22
A small electrolytic capacitors not gonna hold a lot of voltage like that not going to be lethal
It’s gonna hurt though
potentially
@@nomecognome2 it's not gonna hurt a little capacitor like that was it 16 volts
@@hoobsgroove that one.
Voltage doesn't kill. Current does. 1Amp is all it takes
What's that weird talk about heat and distortion?
This speaker will output tens of watts and even with an efficient amplifier, that chip is gonna dissipate 2-3 Watts.
In an enclosure like this speaker, you will need a large-ish head-sink like this one to keep the amplifier chip from overheating and shutting down.
That's all.
A typical class d amp is about 86 to 90% efficient so for 20W output it generates at least 4W of heat. Enough to fry the chip if no cooling exists.
@@dingdong2103 Well, in my math, 10% of 20W woulb be 2W, but apart from that, yes, that's exactly what I was said.
@@NebukadV Ah well yeah, apparently I was thinking 20-40 watts while writing. I'm just surprised the video author didn't understand that power amps need cooling...
did you actually warn someone for a 10 watt power supply, and tell them it could kill them? seriously ....
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whats the point of putting a cap over a screw
Many obvious reasons - esthetique for one. Also reduces vibration since that would leave an air gap for unwanted resonance.
So you don't see or feel the holes through the mesh. They'd wear over time and would be noticeable
The new homepod 2 uses the same internal battery connector like ipads WTF!
Boy oh boy I really hate apple these days.
I hate only many, mainly:
- overpriced "Pro" devices like iPad Pro, iPhone "Pro" etc
- Airpods and Max and whatever exists already, all sound not even close to good enough for the price
- HomePods.... for less than the price of a single homepod you can create a AMAZING sounding stereo setup
I bought recently for 70$ a pair of ELAC Edition One, i didnt expected too much out of 30 year old HiFi speakers since i was used to good HiFi speakers from 2008-2012 already, but these 70$ speakers impressed me, this 1992 speakers sound better than my 2011 speakers for 2500$ the pair.
I’m the second
FIMALLY repairable HomePod (sort of)
Don’t break it and you won’t need to repair it.
don't die and you'll live.
it will break on it's own. Search for "HomePod no bass" and you'll find a TON of results demonstrating why putting an overpowered subwoofer into a small package isn't such a great idea.
stop calling these smart "speakers" They are microphones and surveillance devices.
Zero proof to back it up - as usual with these tinfoil hat takes.
If your microphones are outputting music, there's something wrong with them.
I highly doubt apple is using a Bluetooth speaker to spy on people when a phone or laptop can gather WAY more data and is likely always powered on and with the user. It just doesnt make sense to use this for spying. plus apple REALLY wants people to think apple devices are the safest devices. The minuscule data this speaker could gather is not eve close to worth the cost of there reputation if they were found out.
@@MrNoipe How do you think it processes your commands?
Okay cry about it
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