@@princegroove😂 Quite appropriate, but at least it wasn’t intentional and is just a happy accident! As the video states, the original name was The 19th Hole in reference to the golf course across the street.
While some bars may have been prohibited for being LGBT businesses, it was far more common for the USN to ban sailors from places for being a place where a sailor could contract an STD, code for a place where a sailor could easily find prostitutes. Still, let's give a cheer for The Hole for a century of business, most of which were as a queer-friendly establishment.
San Diego has a very distinguished LGBTQ history. People often don’t know about it because of how much space is taken up by histories of Los Angeles and San Francisco. But San Diego can hold its own. I love a man in uniform!
@@elterrifico9522nice manners for someone who identifies as “el terrifico.” Terrific at insulting millions of people whose lives have nothing to do with you?
Ah, the Hole! Great memories. I was there at least one beer-bust every month, for years. Met a lot of fun people and had some wild times. I even worked there for a bit. Moved far away and miss those good old days, long gone. ✌🏼 💕
So interesting to come across this. My brother was in boot camp in San Diego in the mid 80s. We wanted a drink after his graduation ceremony so we went across the street to this bar. It was during the weekday, so no one was really there, but we kind of knew it was a gay bar. It was the way the bartender said “So, what do we have here?”, while staring at my brother. 😅
So it was a speakeasy run by Navy wives in the '20s, but not a gay speakeasy. What's the earliest date it's documented as being a gay or gay-friendly bar?
@@Geezerelli The obsession is pathological at this point. Seeing the video, clicking on it, and leaving multiple comments takes a lot of energy and interest for someone who claims to be so opposed. Battling some deep seated, intrusive thoughts maybe? 🤣
Does anyone who has watched this video remember the "nameless" gay bar in San Diego that was in a commonplace appearing house in a working class residential neighborhood? It had no signage, no bright outside lighting, no parking lot, and no loud music that would bother their neighbors. My active duty naval officer longterm boyfriend took me there when we were visiting from Washington, DC, for him to attend seminars at Miramar Naval Air Station back in the 1980's. He was stationed at the Pentagon in DC serving in the Naval Corpsman Command. We stayed at Bachelor Officers Quarters where right after we checked in, my Lieutenant lover would immediately muss up both beds' linens to make sure the next morning's housekeepers would "think" that we were just two guys sleeping in two separate beds! Very weird, somewhat funny, but all too necessary in those closeted days, sad to say. But that bar I'm trying to find out more about was very much preferred by gay Marines and their fellow Navy gay guys. Any memories would sure be appreciated by me, now in my 70's and living up north in San Francisco!
@@tonyprost5575 Sorry to say, Tony, that all of this occurred back in the late 1980's and into the early 1990's. At the age of 71 now, my (let's say, a bit less sharp) memory is somewhat faulty about those days. I haven't even visited San Diego since 1999. I've tried Google maps to guesstimate in which San Diego residential neighborhood it was, but so very much has changed about the density of housing, the expanded and upgraded remodeling, the changing economics of who now can even afford to live within the city of San Diego... That's largely why this particular video spurred me on to make this plea in these comments about this "gay bar" that was an authentic "designed-and-opened-to-be-a" gay bar. It had long been established before "The Hole" had just started to have an increase of gay guys and lesbians amidst its predominately straight clientele. And unlike "The Hole," the one to which I've been referring provided no food and did not allow folks to bring in any either. Thanks greatly for your interest, though!
Well now they want us back after pushing us out till last year , not my first pick as I feel this company jumps back on the band wagon for the money. They also now have LGBTQ events again is refreshing , But congrats for being open for 100 years in San Diego
Ironically, the night this was recorded was on a Thursday which is mostly a women's night. Every night is different-you have to look at the events calendar
So interesting that it started as a safe place for women created by women for women. Glad it is still around and interesting how it evolved over the years.
There was nothing misleading about this story. Go back and watch/listen to the story again carefully and then you’ll learn that it HAS been a gay bar for 100 years. That was the whole point of the report from KPBS. Very odd how you could watch this story and think it was misleading.
@@The77trip From the video: "1924 is as far back as we could find any records of its existence." "It was started by some Navy wives who were avid golfers and wanted a place of their own to hang out." That doesn't make it a gay bar. Later in the video, the historian, Art Smith, says determining a bar was gay in history is difficult so we have to rely on police raids, media expose's, and military bans. He then doesn't mention any records of those types relative to the Hole. It's very odd you think you saw any evidence mentioned.
@@DavidLS1 Yes, one of the cool things I noticed in the video was how mixed this bar was. GREAT to see that. In my youth queer bars were all single sex only.
I adore The Hole! Congrats to The Hole for 100 years of fun, love, acceptance and understanding.
To forge your future, is to know your past. Let us remember the people and the places whose shoulders we stand on.
on whose shoulders we stand. (sorry)
Happy to see inside the legendary speakeasy 👍. So beautiful. Thank you, thank you 😊.
Appropriate name, though. 😂
@@princegroove😂 Quite appropriate, but at least it wasn’t intentional and is just a happy accident! As the video states, the original name was The 19th Hole in reference to the golf course across the street.
While some bars may have been prohibited for being LGBT businesses, it was far more common for the USN to ban sailors from places for being a place where a sailor could contract an STD, code for a place where a sailor could easily find prostitutes. Still, let's give a cheer for The Hole for a century of business, most of which were as a queer-friendly establishment.
San Diego has a very distinguished LGBTQ history. People often don’t know about
it because of how much space is taken up by histories of Los Angeles and San Francisco. But San Diego can hold its own. I love a man in uniform!
You misspelled ‘disgusting’
@@elterrifico9522nice manners for someone who identifies as “el terrifico.” Terrific at insulting millions of people whose lives have nothing to do with you?
@davidserlin8097
Nothing to do with you...oh but let us brainwash an recruit the next generation
@@elterrifico9522 corrected spelling: El Terrifico
🤣🤮
Congratulations. 🎉🎉🎉 And let's hope for at least 100 💯 more years!
Great story. Love your shirt, John. Congrats to The Hole.
Ah, the Hole! Great memories. I was there at least one beer-bust every month, for years. Met a lot of fun people and had some wild times. I even worked there for a bit.
Moved far away and miss those good old days, long gone. ✌🏼 💕
I remember going there back in the 90's when I lived in San Diego. It was a bit divey back then. Looks much better now.
Congratulations! Live your life and be happy 😂
OMG I am the guy in the “obsessed” croptop!
I've been there! ❤ So sad that The Flame closed down.
I first thought this would be about the Brass Rail
Thank you for sharing an important part of history for the gay community.
I remember WCPC!
YaY!!....Love WCPC!! 💜🎶
Haha! West Coast Production Company! Good times!! 🤣🤣🤣
That's amazing! Who knew? Now I do. Ty.❤😊
So interesting to come across this. My brother was in boot camp in San Diego in the mid 80s. We wanted a drink after his graduation ceremony so we went across the street to this bar. It was during the weekday, so no one was really there, but we kind of knew it was a gay bar. It was the way the bartender said “So, what do we have here?”, while staring at my brother. 😅
I ❤ San Diego, lived there for a year 2000-01. vote 💙🤙🏼
LOve this!
Congratulations 🌺 love from Hawai’i
So it was a speakeasy run by Navy wives in the '20s, but not a gay speakeasy. What's the earliest date it's documented as being a gay or gay-friendly bar?
Good question.
I lived in SD for over 10 years and never heard of this bar.
They only stated having LGBTQ event this year , previously kinda had the gay bartenders softly removed and was on a pause and I didn’t feel welcome.
Wonderful 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Glad bars still happening. Apps are so weird after a while gay or straight
@@Scuor2 Are they glad to be gay or gay to be glad?😃
@@Geezerelli are you a bot trying to understand human life?
It's called The Hole?
Too obvious, right?
Meaning the 19 th hole at a golf course. They gave the history of the name.
@@lovely-mk4rt We all know what it means
Not if Frumpy Don has his way.
He will give them a pass if they name a drink after him
@@KK-pm7ud Orange Russian?
I remember when it was still a speakeasy.
Congratulations to The Hole! San Francisco's oldest gay bar The Stud couldn't survive COVID 😢.
Too much kooties?
GOOD!!!!!!
@@Geezerelli The obsession is pathological at this point. Seeing the video, clicking on it, and leaving multiple comments takes a lot of energy and interest for someone who claims to be so opposed. Battling some deep seated, intrusive thoughts maybe? 🤣
The Stud is open in a new location (again) on Folsom. The previous locaton is being torn down to build a high rise.
Does anyone who has watched this video remember the "nameless" gay bar in San Diego that was in a commonplace appearing house in a working class residential neighborhood? It had no signage, no bright outside lighting, no parking lot, and no loud music that would bother their neighbors. My active duty naval officer longterm boyfriend took me there when we were visiting from Washington, DC, for him to attend seminars at Miramar Naval Air Station back in the 1980's. He was stationed at the Pentagon in DC serving in the Naval Corpsman Command. We stayed at Bachelor Officers Quarters where right after we checked in, my Lieutenant lover would immediately muss up both beds' linens to make sure the next morning's housekeepers would "think" that we were just two guys sleeping in two separate beds! Very weird, somewhat funny, but all too necessary in those closeted days, sad to say. But that bar I'm trying to find out more about was very much preferred by gay Marines and their fellow Navy gay guys. Any memories would sure be appreciated by me, now in my 70's and living up north in San Francisco!
whereabouts was it?
@@tonyprost5575 Sorry to say, Tony, that all of this occurred back in the late 1980's and into the early 1990's. At the age of 71 now, my (let's say, a bit less sharp) memory is somewhat faulty about those days. I haven't even visited San Diego since 1999. I've tried Google maps to guesstimate in which San Diego residential neighborhood it was, but so very much has changed about the density of housing, the expanded and upgraded remodeling, the changing economics of who now can even afford to live within the city of San Diego... That's largely why this particular video spurred me on to make this plea in these comments about this "gay bar" that was an authentic "designed-and-opened-to-be-a" gay bar. It had long been established before "The Hole" had just started to have an increase of gay guys and lesbians amidst its predominately straight clientele. And unlike "The Hole," the one to which I've been referring provided no food and did not allow folks to bring in any either. Thanks greatly for your interest, though!
Maybe you can contact the "historian" in this video... I'd bet he knows! Haha
Congratulations 🎉
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I doubt any bar turned into a "speakeasy" during prohibition to qualify being 100 years old.
Sunday’s afternoon at the Hole! The good ole days!
Happy Birthday old gay bar
Was a fun bar in the 70's and 80's a real man's bar.
I'm confused... around 2014 she had put this on the market and I thought it had sold?
No. The manager that took over for a while spread those rumors.
How do they get the liberty station sign to levitate?
Photoshop.
Kpbs commentator refer to trump as president trump this was this morning I not going to donate this made up my mind
A gay bar named "The Hole"
Hmm
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I wanna go
Have each others back?😂
Well now they want us back after pushing us out till last year , not my first pick as I feel this company jumps back on the band wagon for the money. They also now have LGBTQ events again is refreshing , But congrats for being open for 100 years in San Diego
San Diego gay bar scene got me through the 80 s. The hole is awesome
Women? At The Hole? I move away for 17 years and this is what happens? :-)
Ironically, the night this was recorded was on a Thursday which is mostly a women's night. Every night is different-you have to look at the events calendar
Notice the pride flag doesnt have black in it
So... it hasn't been a gay bar for 100-years, so that just makes it one of the oldest bars. Very misleading. 🤔
So interesting that it started as a safe place for women created by women for women. Glad it is still around and interesting how it evolved over the years.
Yes. I would like to know when it began to be a gay bar. I really enjoy going to the Hole when visiting San Diego.
There was nothing misleading about this story. Go back and watch/listen to the story again carefully and then you’ll learn that it HAS been a gay bar for 100 years. That was the whole point of the report from KPBS. Very odd how you could watch this story and think it was misleading.
@@The77trip From the video: "1924 is as far back as we could find any records of its existence." "It was started by some Navy wives who were avid golfers and wanted a place of their own to hang out." That doesn't make it a gay bar. Later in the video, the historian, Art Smith, says determining a bar was gay in history is difficult so we have to rely on police raids, media expose's, and military bans. He then doesn't mention any records of those types relative to the Hole. It's very odd you think you saw any evidence mentioned.
:)
When I was young gay bars were for gay men. We didn't have alphabet soup then.
Then you got old… now, it’s almost like you don’t exist 🤷♂️
There were gay bars and there were lesbian bars. But you're right, no mixed bars.
@@williamthomas4617Ouch! ☠️
@@DavidLS1 Yes, one of the cool things I noticed in the video was how mixed this bar was. GREAT to see that. In my youth queer bars were all single sex only.
Hispanics 4 TRUMP 2024🇺🇸🇲🇽👊😎
Absolutely a horrible name for a gay bar. Very derogatory
GROW UP
Too bad it's not "Gay" anymore.
Yes it is
The hole , sounds like a dump.
who gives a crap?
Time to move to Poland.
@@Geezerelli bye! Don’t come back. 💋
who cares
You do. You're here.
Okay, bozo.
The hole 🕳 🤣🤣🤣
People watching this. In case you didn't there are videos for almost everybody. Why not find a video you like?
Clearly you don't. When I don't care about something I don't watch it.
Wow b8g deal. Im out
BYE!
Disgusting
Snart, yet casual