San Diego's oldest gay bar turns 100

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • This year, the San Diego Pride Parade marks its 50th anniversary. It’s one of the largest and oldest Pride celebrations in the country. San Diego is also home to one of the oldest gay bars in the country and it's turning 100. KPBS reporter John Carroll takes us to The Hole in Point Loma.
    Read this story on www.kpbs.org/n...
    #pridemonth #lgbtq #lgbtqhistory #sandiegohistory

КОМЕНТАРІ • 114

  • @fearsomebeard4290
    @fearsomebeard4290 Місяць тому +23

    I adore The Hole! Congrats to The Hole for 100 years of fun, love, acceptance and understanding.

  • @rockyroad-hq7hz
    @rockyroad-hq7hz Місяць тому +19

    To forge your future, is to know your past. Let us remember the people and the places whose shoulders we stand on.

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 Місяць тому

      on whose shoulders we stand. (sorry)

  • @stevekluth9060
    @stevekluth9060 Місяць тому +16

    While some bars may have been prohibited for being LGBT businesses, it was far more common for the USN to ban sailors from places for being a place where a sailor could contract an STD, code for a place where a sailor could easily find prostitutes. Still, let's give a cheer for The Hole for a century of business, most of which were as a queer-friendly establishment.

  • @allialias
    @allialias Місяць тому +27

    Happy to see inside the legendary speakeasy 👍. So beautiful. Thank you, thank you 😊.

    • @princegroove
      @princegroove Місяць тому

      Appropriate name, though. 😂

    • @nailartguy3363
      @nailartguy3363 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@princegroove😂 Quite appropriate, but at least it wasn’t intentional and is just a happy accident! As the video states, the original name was The 19th Hole in reference to the golf course across the street.

  • @davidserlin8097
    @davidserlin8097 Місяць тому +51

    San Diego has a very distinguished LGBTQ history. People often don’t know about
    it because of how much space is taken up by histories of Los Angeles and San Francisco. But San Diego can hold its own. I love a man in uniform!

    • @elterrifico9522
      @elterrifico9522 Місяць тому +4

      You misspelled ‘disgusting’

    • @davidserlin8097
      @davidserlin8097 Місяць тому +14

      @@elterrifico9522nice manners for someone who identifies as “el terrifico.” Terrific at insulting millions of people whose lives have nothing to do with you?

    • @WhatCanSmith
      @WhatCanSmith Місяць тому

      @davidserlin8097
      Nothing to do with you...oh but let us brainwash an recruit the next generation

    • @robertconrad7269
      @robertconrad7269 Місяць тому

      @@elterrifico9522 corrected spelling: El Terrifico

    • @elterrifico9522
      @elterrifico9522 Місяць тому

      🤣🤮

  • @strafrag1
    @strafrag1 Місяць тому +5

    Great story. Love your shirt, John. Congrats to The Hole.

  • @Katnip452
    @Katnip452 Місяць тому +3

    Ah, the Hole! Great memories. I was there at least one beer-bust every month, for years. Met a lot of fun people and had some wild times. I even worked there for a bit.
    Moved far away and miss those good old days, long gone. ✌🏼 💕

  • @genewest8426
    @genewest8426 Місяць тому +19

    Congratulations! Live your life and be happy 😂

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 Місяць тому +1

    I remember going there back in the 90's when I lived in San Diego. It was a bit divey back then. Looks much better now.

  • @JerjerB
    @JerjerB Місяць тому

    Congratulations. 🎉🎉🎉 And let's hope for at least 100 💯 more years!

  • @calboy2
    @calboy2 Місяць тому +6

    I first thought this would be about the Brass Rail

  • @jeffreyharkness8551
    @jeffreyharkness8551 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for sharing an important part of history for the gay community.

  • @swimmersparkles
    @swimmersparkles Місяць тому +2

    OMG I am the guy in the “obsessed” croptop!

  • @davids1258
    @davids1258 Місяць тому +5

    I remember WCPC!

    • @gingermoon88
      @gingermoon88 Місяць тому

      YaY!!....Love WCPC!! 💜🎶

    • @JJ-in3bc
      @JJ-in3bc Місяць тому +1

      Haha! West Coast Production Company! Good times!! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @nightwind67
    @nightwind67 Місяць тому +6

    I lived in SD for over 10 years and never heard of this bar.

    • @mpatt32
      @mpatt32 27 днів тому

      They only stated having LGBTQ event this year , previously kinda had the gay bartenders softly removed and was on a pause and I didn’t feel welcome.

  • @allermenchenaufder
    @allermenchenaufder Місяць тому

    Wonderful 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud Місяць тому +7

    It's called The Hole?

    • @pathhaven5961
      @pathhaven5961 Місяць тому +2

      Too obvious, right?

    • @lovely-mk4rt
      @lovely-mk4rt Місяць тому +1

      Meaning the 19 th hole at a golf course. They gave the history of the name.

    • @pathhaven5961
      @pathhaven5961 Місяць тому +1

      @@lovely-mk4rt We all know what it means

  • @luvzfrance24
    @luvzfrance24 Місяць тому +5

    Congratulations to The Hole! San Francisco's oldest gay bar The Stud couldn't survive COVID 😢.

    • @Geezerelli
      @Geezerelli Місяць тому

      Too much kooties?

    • @HoneyBearLife
      @HoneyBearLife Місяць тому +1

      GOOD!!!!!!

    • @nailartguy3363
      @nailartguy3363 Місяць тому +2

      @@Geezerelli The obsession is pathological at this point. Seeing the video, clicking on it, and leaving multiple comments takes a lot of energy and interest for someone who claims to be so opposed. Battling some deep seated, intrusive thoughts maybe? 🤣

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson Місяць тому +3

      The Stud is open in a new location (again) on Folsom. The previous locaton is being torn down to build a high rise.

  • @Scuor2
    @Scuor2 Місяць тому +11

    Glad bars still happening. Apps are so weird after a while gay or straight

    • @Geezerelli
      @Geezerelli Місяць тому

      @@Scuor2 Are they glad to be gay or gay to be glad?😃

    • @Scuor2
      @Scuor2 Місяць тому

      @@Geezerelli are you a bot trying to understand human life?

  • @williamkane6155
    @williamkane6155 Місяць тому +1

    LOve this!

  • @bobskiba7181
    @bobskiba7181 Місяць тому +2

    So it was a speakeasy run by Navy wives in the '20s, but not a gay speakeasy. What's the earliest date it's documented as being a gay or gay-friendly bar?

  • @bobbifergus3110
    @bobbifergus3110 Місяць тому +1

    I've been there! ❤ So sad that The Flame closed down.

  • @lovely-mk4rt
    @lovely-mk4rt Місяць тому +1

    Congratulations 🌺 love from Hawai’i

  • @marryellenmonahan5585
    @marryellenmonahan5585 Місяць тому

    That's amazing! Who knew? Now I do. Ty.❤😊

  • @TheSouthernMensch
    @TheSouthernMensch Місяць тому +5

    Happy Birthday old gay bar

  • @princegroove
    @princegroove Місяць тому +5

    Not if Frumpy Don has his way.

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud Місяць тому

      He will give them a pass if they name a drink after him

    • @DiogenesOfCa
      @DiogenesOfCa Місяць тому +3

      @@KK-pm7ud Orange Russian?

  • @slimtee2
    @slimtee2 Місяць тому

    So interesting to come across this. My brother was in boot camp in San Diego in the mid 80s. We wanted a drink after his graduation ceremony so we went across the street to this bar. It was during the weekday, so no one was really there, but we kind of knew it was a gay bar. It was the way the bartender said “So, what do we have here?”, while staring at my brother. 😅

  • @DavidLS1
    @DavidLS1 Місяць тому +2

    I remember when it was still a speakeasy.

  • @kylecourtney8660
    @kylecourtney8660 Місяць тому +4

    Was a fun bar in the 70's and 80's a real man's bar.

  • @arias6720
    @arias6720 Місяць тому

    I ❤ San Diego, lived there for a year 2000-01. vote 💙🤙🏼

  • @matthewfernando2825
    @matthewfernando2825 Місяць тому

    Congratulations 🎉

  • @TommyChardonneret
    @TommyChardonneret Місяць тому +5

    Does anyone who has watched this video remember the "nameless" gay bar in San Diego that was in a commonplace appearing house in a working class residential neighborhood? It had no signage, no bright outside lighting, no parking lot, and no loud music that would bother their neighbors. My active duty naval officer longterm boyfriend took me there when we were visiting from Washington, DC, for him to attend seminars at Miramar Naval Air Station back in the 1980's. He was stationed at the Pentagon in DC serving in the Naval Corpsman Command. We stayed at Bachelor Officers Quarters where right after we checked in, my Lieutenant lover would immediately muss up both beds' linens to make sure the next morning's housekeepers would "think" that we were just two guys sleeping in two separate beds! Very weird, somewhat funny, but all too necessary in those closeted days, sad to say. But that bar I'm trying to find out more about was very much preferred by gay Marines and their fellow Navy gay guys. Any memories would sure be appreciated by me, now in my 70's and living up north in San Francisco!

    • @tonyprost5575
      @tonyprost5575 Місяць тому +1

      whereabouts was it?

    • @TommyChardonneret
      @TommyChardonneret Місяць тому +2

      @@tonyprost5575 Sorry to say, Tony, that all of this occurred back in the late 1980's and into the early 1990's. At the age of 71 now, my (let's say, a bit less sharp) memory is somewhat faulty about those days. I haven't even visited San Diego since 1999. I've tried Google maps to guesstimate in which San Diego residential neighborhood it was, but so very much has changed about the density of housing, the expanded and upgraded remodeling, the changing economics of who now can even afford to live within the city of San Diego... That's largely why this particular video spurred me on to make this plea in these comments about this "gay bar" that was an authentic "designed-and-opened-to-be-a" gay bar. It had long been established before "The Hole" had just started to have an increase of gay guys and lesbians amidst its predominately straight clientele. And unlike "The Hole," the one to which I've been referring provided no food and did not allow folks to bring in any either. Thanks greatly for your interest, though!

    • @JJ-in3bc
      @JJ-in3bc Місяць тому

      Maybe you can contact the "historian" in this video... I'd bet he knows! Haha

  • @Quipson
    @Quipson Місяць тому

    I doubt any bar turned into a "speakeasy" during prohibition to qualify being 100 years old.

  • @admuniz
    @admuniz Місяць тому +1

    Sunday’s afternoon at the Hole! The good ole days!

  • @ICONICPARIS
    @ICONICPARIS 27 днів тому

    I wanna go

  • @claytonjames4779
    @claytonjames4779 Місяць тому

    I'm confused... around 2014 she had put this on the market and I thought it had sold?

    • @lostbydesign
      @lostbydesign Місяць тому +1

      No. The manager that took over for a while spread those rumors.

  • @harrybear193
    @harrybear193 29 днів тому

    Kpbs commentator refer to trump as president trump this was this morning I not going to donate this made up my mind

  • @ShaunTuazon
    @ShaunTuazon Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @mpatt32
    @mpatt32 27 днів тому

    Well now they want us back after pushing us out till last year , not my first pick as I feel this company jumps back on the band wagon for the money. They also now have LGBTQ events again is refreshing , But congrats for being open for 100 years in San Diego

  • @CountAxel
    @CountAxel Місяць тому

    How do they get the liberty station sign to levitate?

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 Місяць тому +1

      Photoshop.

  • @alienboy1322
    @alienboy1322 Місяць тому

    A gay bar named "The Hole"
    Hmm

  • @Geezerelli
    @Geezerelli Місяць тому

    Have each others back?😂

  • @davidthaler7018
    @davidthaler7018 Місяць тому +3

    Women? At The Hole? I move away for 17 years and this is what happens? :-)

    • @lostbydesign
      @lostbydesign Місяць тому

      Ironically, the night this was recorded was on a Thursday which is mostly a women's night. Every night is different-you have to look at the events calendar

  • @richardhowe898
    @richardhowe898 Місяць тому

    San Diego gay bar scene got me through the 80 s. The hole is awesome

  • @Ricphil
    @Ricphil Місяць тому

    :)

  • @kevinholcomb292
    @kevinholcomb292 Місяць тому +7

    So... it hasn't been a gay bar for 100-years, so that just makes it one of the oldest bars. Very misleading. 🤔

    • @missmolliepink
      @missmolliepink Місяць тому +5

      So interesting that it started as a safe place for women created by women for women. Glad it is still around and interesting how it evolved over the years.

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson Місяць тому +2

      Yes. I would like to know when it began to be a gay bar. I really enjoy going to the Hole when visiting San Diego.

    • @The77trip
      @The77trip Місяць тому

      There was nothing misleading about this story. Go back and watch/listen to the story again carefully and then you’ll learn that it HAS been a gay bar for 100 years. That was the whole point of the report from KPBS. Very odd how you could watch this story and think it was misleading.

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson Місяць тому +1

      @@The77trip From the video: "1924 is as far back as we could find any records of its existence." "It was started by some Navy wives who were avid golfers and wanted a place of their own to hang out." That doesn't make it a gay bar. Later in the video, the historian, Art Smith, says determining a bar was gay in history is difficult so we have to rely on police raids, media expose's, and military bans. He then doesn't mention any records of those types relative to the Hole. It's very odd you think you saw any evidence mentioned.

  • @Owl-of-Minerva
    @Owl-of-Minerva Місяць тому +1

    Notice the pride flag doesnt have black in it

  • @StephenShields-iv2ys
    @StephenShields-iv2ys Місяць тому

    Absolutely a horrible name for a gay bar. Very derogatory

  • @tyagi6575
    @tyagi6575 Місяць тому +4

    When I was young gay bars were for gay men. We didn't have alphabet soup then.

    • @williamthomas4617
      @williamthomas4617 Місяць тому +5

      Then you got old… now, it’s almost like you don’t exist 🤷‍♂️

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 Місяць тому +4

      There were gay bars and there were lesbian bars. But you're right, no mixed bars.

    • @sinistercitizen3061
      @sinistercitizen3061 Місяць тому +1

      @@williamthomas4617Ouch! ☠️

    • @chuckrussell-coons5866
      @chuckrussell-coons5866 Місяць тому +3

      @@DavidLS1 Yes, one of the cool things I noticed in the video was how mixed this bar was. GREAT to see that. In my youth queer bars were all single sex only.

  • @HoneyBearLife
    @HoneyBearLife Місяць тому +3

    Hispanics 4 TRUMP 2024🇺🇸🇲🇽👊😎

  • @martyclement4010
    @martyclement4010 Місяць тому +1

    Too bad it's not "Gay" anymore.

  • @poollife777
    @poollife777 Місяць тому +1

    Gross absolutely gross. I bet it stinks in there.

  • @user-ix4wn1th5m
    @user-ix4wn1th5m Місяць тому

    The hole , sounds like a dump.

  • @Geezerelli
    @Geezerelli Місяць тому

    Time to move to Poland.

    • @wordscapes5690
      @wordscapes5690 27 днів тому

      @@Geezerelli bye! Don’t come back. 💋

  • @beachcomer007
    @beachcomer007 Місяць тому +2

    who gives a crap?

  • @flashflame4952
    @flashflame4952 Місяць тому +1

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  • @victoriamccullough6464
    @victoriamccullough6464 Місяць тому +3

    who cares

    • @1gloomyDAY
      @1gloomyDAY Місяць тому +13

      You do. You're here.

    • @princegroove
      @princegroove Місяць тому +2

      Okay, bozo.

    • @frankthetank4101
      @frankthetank4101 Місяць тому

      The hole 🕳 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Scuor2
      @Scuor2 Місяць тому +9

      People watching this. In case you didn't there are videos for almost everybody. Why not find a video you like?

    • @utfarley7563
      @utfarley7563 Місяць тому +4

      Clearly you don't. When I don't care about something I don't watch it.

  • @davidwright873
    @davidwright873 Місяць тому

    Wow b8g deal. Im out

  • @nolver53
    @nolver53 Місяць тому +2

    Disgusting

    • @toddkiehm
      @toddkiehm Місяць тому

      Snart, yet casual