Tip 1. Send classified documents to gaijin, receive 14 years in prison, never be employed again for selling state secrets, and don't receive the buff to Challenger 2 armour
Many people also call ‘sideskirting’ as ‘sidescraping’ and is generally a term used more often by World of tanks players, as sidescraping is an important skill to have in that game. And of course being a tank game, people who played wot and are now in WT use the term sidescraping more often, since it is still a tactic that does work in both games obviously.
And not sure if it works the same in both games but probably does, a shell that hits at an angle between 70 and 90 degrees always ricochets unless it is HE. Think of skipping a stone over a lake. The lower the throw the more likely the skip. This way you are controlling the lake surface instead of the throw. Make it skip and you live. Of course these tricks only increases your chances of survival. But it can’t hurt.
I thought sidescraping was when you back up from a corner with only the side armor showing. I used to use that tactic a lot back in the day but now I'm a lot more confident about peeking out and getting a kill shot off quickly.
Doubly true for russian mbts in 2024. If a dart plunges into your hull from even a 10 degree angle, that dart will go into the ammo carousel. 99 times of 100, the tank just dies. The other 1 time, they are utterly disabled.
As a Tiger main, i can say that without angling it's quite impossible to play against the Jumbo and KV's, otherwise you can yeet other players with a KV2 and M4A3E2 without this technique.
Im gonna be going after jumbo so Im excited to test it out hearing how broken it was because of how bad tier 3 was to me Im on my way to revenge after finally through that.
ok so... 12 days into War Thunder... i started doing angling at about my 3rd day or so... but it turns out there's a lot more tricks to it than just turning and being a sitting duck... thx for all the tips Tankenstein, can't wait to watch some more of your guides :)
One tip is you are usually better if your tank is on a slight incline especially with sloped armour, so if you are on a hill it is better to be a bit behind the hill with your front pointing up and shooting over the hill at the enemy. In general for angling I just try to remember the phrase point your corners at the enemy
From my personal experience, the KV-1 is the Angling Master relative to it's BR. The only things it has to watch out for are high caliber HEAT and HE shells, everything else just bounces off. It's even more effective at it than the T-34.
That tank is unreasonably good un this game. Basically you hold w until you get near the enemy ,then angle. It brings results. And why is this so ? The maps are either small with small streets or are hilly terrain that create "streetlike" corridors.
@Tankenstein Late comment I know, but I just want to say thank you for posting this video. I watched it during work and got home and jumped into my Tiger E. First map I was deployed in the Northern section on the map Advance To The Rhine. I went to the East side and kept watch down the long road on that flank. Got into a long range shootout with a T92 which was hidden well. I was able to bounce 3 shots off of him before I was able to take him down. It's probably not a big deal to other players, but damn did it feel good taking what I learn from your video and putting it into practice. Instant subscribe after that. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for this. It actually really helped. I felt unstoppable as I was hit with probably 20 rounds maybe more and I was still alive. Thanks
Even with angling there's not much you can do when it comes to using the 76 Sherman's, their br is too high for their armor to really be effective at all unless it's a jumbo, and even then that 76 is at 6.0 or 6.3 now so
Suffering from Gaijinn Success Syndrome, or GSS; where the win rate for the vehicle causes spontaneous uptiering until failure is achieved and misery is assured.
@@theoldefirme4500 Yeah, or down tiering because people overestimate vehicles and such. Gotta love that the t25 is at 6.3 when it has no reason to be since they took the stabilizer out, put it at 6.0 so the US has a lineup there again, and lower repair costs because it does not need to be almost the same as the super Pershing, nor does the regular Pershing need to be more than it, especially when the t26e5 is less than even the t25
I am betting that is what arcade is truly for it is training grounds to learn how to lead targets and familiarize yourself with new airframe before you take leap in skill level? Anyway that's what I am taking from it.
How th are you even struggling? Judging by your progress in your tech tree, you should be able to aim with any planes (assuming you play RB) The only thing i can tell you is to get used to aiming. Takes a couple dozen matches before you can be good with a single plane. Once you are good with a single plane, it usually only takes a couple matches to get good with a plane you just unlocked
..Trust me.. Do not Angle at Super High tiers.. You will just get LolPenned through the side. Even if its just a small bit showing on your side. It WILL go through. May not kill you, But a mobility kill of your engine will end you one way or another.
Ya well I haven't played since the release of jets like in 2015 or something. I hopped in a Tiger E after some mid grinding. 4 matches later I "hit" and then I got one tapped by T-34 through my front 110 mm plate. This is so historically inaccurate I literally had to google it, and it clearly states, "The Germans also noted that the T-34 was very slow to find and engage targets, while their own tanks could typically get off three rounds for every one fired by the T-34. As the war progressed the Germans created heavier tank designs like the Tiger I or Panther which were both immune to the 76mm gun of the T-34 when fired upon from the front." BRUH.
Don't let historical facts confuse you. Russian tanks have zero biases. T-34 best tank ever (excuse my sarcasm) Truthful fact the cold winter weather conditions in Russia definitely defeated German tanks more so than Russian tanks. After all Germany made it past thousands of T-34 carcasses on the way to Moscow destroyed by Tigers and Panthers, But don't let those facts get in the way.
@@jwar2163 Yea stalingrad wasn't till later in the war, but yea Germans definitely learned the hard way what Russian winters do to Tracks and unheated tanks and actually lost a lot of men just due to basic hypothermia which is such a logistical error that costed them greatly. But still War Thunder gets rid of historical accuracy for "fairness" and an unrealistic arcade-y style gameplay thats so fked right now, they should just flush it and restart.
Been keeping myself at 70 degree angles and camping in cover, tank pops round the corner and whilst i usually destroy them, every single round fired at me just cleans me out... i know im not great at the game but im not bad either but jeez, this games rough.. sure knows how to kill the fun factor.
This comment section is putting high pressure on me to listen once I have a Tiger... to be fair, armor in Germany before the tiger is either straight on or might as well be non existent in my experience. The panzer 4 crew size also makes you think you can survive a shot or 2 penetrating you from everyone else's weaker ammo type it feels.
Don’t know if it’s returning player luck but I’ve returned to playing Warthunder and decided to try and angle I’ve now gone from averaging 1 assist to minimum 5 kills
I think you could do a follow up video more from the players perspective than the armor strength analysis and maybe show of a couple of common Tanks (Shermans, Tigers, Panthers, IS1+2 and such) with the Tiger I used to try to have my gun aligned right over the edge as a rule of thumb and that usually worked quite ok but for the IS2 for example I really have no Idea how to point it to survive anything.
I played a crap ton of world of tanks before I came to war thunder so I call what you were explaining side scraping instead of skirting because the terminology just kind of makes sense it's hitting the side of your armor which scrapes and bounces off , when I play world of tanks I use my vk36 01h because of the amount of shells that I block I can even stop kv2s from killing me with that tank lol
Pfft they just shoot through your front corner and wheels :D I still miss WoT when I had an IS3 when you parked it backwards side scraping and would cause 60 degree angles.
@@TheLazyKat yes, i kinda that too even though most of my crews are already bad and the better ones are usa uk russia (even though I played it like 5 years ago) sweden France and italy But But id be pissed if it was the usa, uk or russia again, i mostly play germany so thats why my crew is almost mexed there😃
What for? You dont really need a guide for those tanks. Pretty self explanatory Plan your move, dont hold w, make sure you know what is going on (where your allies are, a rough estimate of where your enemies are). If you dont, retreat immediately. Try to go with allies or snipe. Applies to 90% of german 7.0-11.0
Can someone please help me??? My game keeps saying unable connect to the server for a 2 months!!! Im sure its not my internet ive checked everything!!! Is this only on Xbox? Did anybody else have experienced this problem??? If you could solved this issue please guide me thanks!!!
@@kennethmasters9329 I've reinstalled the game multiple times! Even hard reseted my xbox but nothing happens!!! I've posted on forums and they say it's your connection!!! But I'm sure it isn't!!! I really don't know what to do!!! It's really annoying!!!
@@nightly3225 I've emailed gaijin but they say it's your connection and didn't say much!!! But I've searched the net and I've seen some people experienced my exact problem but unfortunately nobody knows any solution for this issue!!! Guess i have to wait to fix by itself then!!! :((((
@@aryankeyvannia1555 could be your internet provider? Maybe the game isn’t properly updated? Try uninstalling and reinstalling. Idk I’ve never had this happen to me before.
Hey, this is a late comment, but I'm asking knowledgeable people here: does this official World of Tanks video also apply to WT? ua-cam.com/video/uKtmnwIwrHc/v-deo.html I believe it explains angling in WoT very nicely and that it should work in WT the same as well
I was warned that my usual tactics in world of tanks won't work as well here. The game physics feel different so my guess is that apart from the really basic concepts angling in wot ways will likely get you unalived in warthunder Edit: I am still a new player to warthunder myself after moving from world of tanks recently so I could be wrong. I have tried sidescraping out of habit since I left wot recently and I got recked.
i was a main german player, but i stopped playing when i get the tiger h1 and panther D. Like, it doesnt matter when EVERY GAME is uptier you will get blasted making the diamond formation or not, and u have to fight against tanks who is more nimble than you, the turret movement fast than yours, the reload rate faster than you and can kill you with one shot in most of the cases. So if u are strugling with german, just change to russian or eua, its a change of life and help with your mental health kkkkk. And thats why german players lost every game in this tier, cause like EVERYONE they push the ''w'' button, but the enemy always have their cannon on you faster than you can put you aim in them, thats why german lost a lot of games in a row, you need to be a good player. In the other nations, a average player do the trick.
![7 Easy (And Weird) Ground Battle Tips and Tricks That Actually Work [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hzSFfFCCsnc/mqdefault.jpg)
Tip 1. Send classified documents to gaijin, receive 14 years in prison, never be employed again for selling state secrets, and don't receive the buff to Challenger 2 armour
Tip 2 switch to the soviet union
Switch to france legion to reset your shitty life
now thats pro gamering
Tip 3. Die of old age trying to grind soviet union
He wasn't actually put in prison for 14 years though. It was the maximum penalty he could've got.
Many people also call ‘sideskirting’ as ‘sidescraping’ and is generally a term used more often by World of tanks players, as sidescraping is an important skill to have in that game. And of course being a tank game, people who played wot and are now in WT use the term sidescraping more often, since it is still a tactic that does work in both games obviously.
TOO BAD IN WAR THUNDER U CAN USE ROUND THAT CAN OVERMATCH OR HIT LUCKY SHOT SINCE NO DISPERSEN OH AND DONT FORGER OVA PRESSUER
And not sure if it works the same in both games but probably does, a shell that hits at an angle between 70 and 90 degrees always ricochets unless it is HE.
Think of skipping a stone over a lake. The lower the throw the more likely the skip. This way you are controlling the lake surface instead of the throw. Make it skip and you live.
Of course these tricks only increases your chances of survival. But it can’t hurt.
I thought sidescraping was when you back up from a corner with only the side armor showing. I used to use that tactic a lot back in the day but now I'm a lot more confident about peeking out and getting a kill shot off quickly.
@@Kraus- well it’s pretty much the same since at such an angle the shell is basically scrapping the side
@@chicuongvu1806 I'm going to assume that English is not your primary language
Just one fix, DO NOT angle at top tier, it will get you killed.
Well to be clear, don't give more than 15 degrees of side. APFSDS has 80 or so max degrees it can be effective at against armor.
If you use leopard you’re probably more likely to survive getting shot in the side than the front
Doubly true for russian mbts in 2024. If a dart plunges into your hull from even a 10 degree angle, that dart will go into the ammo carousel. 99 times of 100, the tank just dies. The other 1 time, they are utterly disabled.
Major issue with casemate TDs is that angling can limit your ability to shoot.
As a Tiger main, i can say that without angling it's quite impossible to play against the Jumbo and KV's, otherwise you can yeet other players with a KV2 and M4A3E2 without this technique.
Im gonna be going after jumbo so Im excited to test it out hearing how broken it was because of how bad tier 3 was to me Im on my way to revenge after finally through that.
ok so... 12 days into War Thunder... i started doing angling at about my 3rd day or so... but it turns out there's a lot more tricks to it than just turning and being a sitting duck... thx for all the tips Tankenstein, can't wait to watch some more of your guides :)
So how's it going in WT for u now?
One tip is you are usually better if your tank is on a slight incline especially with sloped armour, so if you are on a hill it is better to be a bit behind the hill with your front pointing up and shooting over the hill at the enemy. In general for angling I just try to remember the phrase point your corners at the enemy
...unless you play something Soviet.
@@TaronTT facts
I think what you're describing is hull down. It's amazing what you can block with a hull down sherman.
From my personal experience, the KV-1 is the Angling Master relative to it's BR. The only things it has to watch out for are high caliber HEAT and HE shells, everything else just bounces off. It's even more effective at it than the T-34.
That tank is unreasonably good un this game. Basically you hold w until you get near the enemy ,then angle. It brings results.
And why is this so ? The maps are either small with small streets or are hilly terrain that create "streetlike" corridors.
1:30 protip: that round can go straight through the upper glacis of the sherman at that distance
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bro this vid plus another vid explaining ammo really helped me thank you
I have been waiting for this, thank you!
@Tankenstein Late comment I know, but I just want to say thank you for posting this video. I watched it during work and got home and jumped into my Tiger E. First map I was deployed in the Northern section on the map Advance To The Rhine. I went to the East side and kept watch down the long road on that flank. Got into a long range shootout with a T92 which was hidden well. I was able to bounce 3 shots off of him before I was able to take him down. It's probably not a big deal to other players, but damn did it feel good taking what I learn from your video and putting it into practice. Instant subscribe after that. Thanks again.
Thank you! I appreciate the very kind comment and am glad that you found success! I hope it made War Thunder even just a bit more fun :)
Thank you so much for this. It actually really helped. I felt unstoppable as I was hit with probably 20 rounds maybe more and I was still alive. Thanks
Even with angling there's not much you can do when it comes to using the 76 Sherman's, their br is too high for their armor to really be effective at all unless it's a jumbo, and even then that 76 is at 6.0 or 6.3 now so
Suffering from Gaijinn Success Syndrome, or GSS; where the win rate for the vehicle causes spontaneous uptiering until failure is achieved and misery is assured.
@@theoldefirme4500 Yeah, or down tiering because people overestimate vehicles and such. Gotta love that the t25 is at 6.3 when it has no reason to be since they took the stabilizer out, put it at 6.0 so the US has a lineup there again, and lower repair costs because it does not need to be almost the same as the super Pershing, nor does the regular Pershing need to be more than it, especially when the t26e5 is less than even the t25
Jumbo is starting to approach the level of armor appropriate for 5.3 yet it's gun is 4.0 tier
Besh and HE are very destructive, ive seen both bounce off of a BMP-1. Kinda funny ngl.
Most angling I get to do is pointing my rear at helicopter rushers
I hope Tiger players don't watch this, I'll lose my main money source
I'm watching it
3 thousand tiger players watched this 😭
UNLESS U USE 75 MM SHERMAN THEN 76 MM JUST CUT THRU NO MATTER THE ANGLE, IT JUST GAIJIN BS THAT MAKE THE DRIVER PORT SO OP
@@chicuongvu1806 because Germany suffers. Clearly
@@chicuongvu1806 untrue you can bounce 76mm prettying easily
Hey, can u please make a guide to aim with planes, I’m struggling with the bf109G-14
I am betting that is what arcade is truly for it is training grounds to learn how to lead targets and familiarize yourself with new airframe before you take leap in skill level? Anyway that's what I am taking from it.
How th are you even struggling? Judging by your progress in your tech tree, you should be able to aim with any planes (assuming you play RB)
The only thing i can tell you is to get used to aiming. Takes a couple dozen matches before you can be good with a single plane. Once you are good with a single plane, it usually only takes a couple matches to get good with a plane you just unlocked
This primary only works at low and mid tier, at toptier If you angle. A dart gonna violate your ammorack, engine or both
..Trust me.. Do not Angle at Super High tiers.. You will just get LolPenned through the side.
Even if its just a small bit showing on your side. It WILL go through. May not kill you, But a mobility kill of your engine will end you one way or another.
Ya well I haven't played since the release of jets like in 2015 or something. I hopped in a Tiger E after some mid grinding. 4 matches later I "hit" and then I got one tapped by T-34 through my front 110 mm plate. This is so historically inaccurate I literally had to google it, and it clearly states, "The Germans also noted that the T-34 was very slow to find and engage targets, while their own tanks could typically get off three rounds for every one fired by the T-34. As the war progressed the Germans created heavier tank designs like the Tiger I or Panther which were both immune to the 76mm gun of the T-34 when fired upon from the front." BRUH.
keep crying baby
angle your tank
Don't let historical facts confuse you. Russian tanks have zero biases. T-34 best tank ever (excuse my sarcasm) Truthful fact the cold winter weather conditions in Russia definitely defeated German tanks more so than Russian tanks. After all Germany made it past thousands of T-34 carcasses on the way to Moscow destroyed by Tigers and Panthers, But don't let those facts get in the way.
@@jwar2163 Yea stalingrad wasn't till later in the war, but yea Germans definitely learned the hard way what Russian winters do to Tracks and unheated tanks and actually lost a lot of men just due to basic hypothermia which is such a logistical error that costed them greatly. But still War Thunder gets rid of historical accuracy for "fairness" and an unrealistic arcade-y style gameplay thats so fked right now, they should just flush it and restart.
Been keeping myself at 70 degree angles and camping in cover, tank pops round the corner and whilst i usually destroy them, every single round fired at me just cleans me out... i know im not great at the game but im not bad either but jeez, this games rough.. sure knows how to kill the fun factor.
What BR or tank?
This comment section is putting high pressure on me to listen once I have a Tiger... to be fair, armor in Germany before the tiger is either straight on or might as well be non existent in my experience. The panzer 4 crew size also makes you think you can survive a shot or 2 penetrating you from everyone else's weaker ammo type it feels.
TIP: IF YOU CANT PEN AN ENEMY TANK SHOOT THERE GUN ITS BETTER TO DISABLE AND RETREAT RATHER THEN GETTING DISABLED AND DESTROYED
Don’t know if it’s returning player luck but I’ve returned to playing Warthunder and decided to try and angle I’ve now gone from averaging 1 assist to minimum 5 kills
me a war thunder player who has a wierd case where I just find my self fighting the entire enemy team
Thanks man, good information
I think you could do a follow up video more from the players perspective than the armor strength analysis and maybe show of a couple of common Tanks (Shermans, Tigers, Panthers, IS1+2 and such) with the Tiger I used to try to have my gun aligned right over the edge as a rule of thumb and that usually worked quite ok but for the IS2 for example I really have no Idea how to point it to survive anything.
For the is2 you don’t it can go through even if you’re angled perfect
@@phantomhobo7432 IS-2 you pray they miss and that's about all you can do. There's a reason the cannon is used for a whole 2 BRs.
I use sideskirting everytime I play a m4 / Sherman it’s so good
I played a crap ton of world of tanks before I came to war thunder so I call what you were explaining side scraping instead of skirting because the terminology just kind of makes sense it's hitting the side of your armor which scrapes and bounces off , when I play world of tanks I use my vk36 01h because of the amount of shells that I block I can even stop kv2s from killing me with that tank lol
Can you angle planes so you deflect those 23mm shells ?
thanks for the tip
I just played like 10 minutes ago and did it for the first time 30 shells from 10 tanks bounced off me
Nice channel bro good clip
Do a compleate king tiger guide!
Pfft they just shoot through your front corner and wheels :D I still miss WoT when I had an IS3 when you parked it backwards side scraping and would cause 60 degree angles.
Anyone think next BP Will have a german main veichle?
Idk could be anything I just hope it isn't anything Italian or Japanese cus I don't have good crews there
@@TheLazyKat yes, i kinda that too even though most of my crews are already bad and the better ones are usa uk russia (even though I played it like 5 years ago) sweden France and italy But But id be pissed if it was the usa, uk or russia again, i mostly play germany so thats why my crew is almost mexed there😃
I hope so
Do you think you will do high tear guide for Germany like 7.3-11.0
What for? You dont really need a guide for those tanks. Pretty self explanatory
Plan your move, dont hold w, make sure you know what is going on (where your allies are, a rough estimate of where your enemies are). If you dont, retreat immediately. Try to go with allies or snipe. Applies to 90% of german 7.0-11.0
i really thought angling only works in world of tanks
Thank you!
As a ex world of tanks player angling is the only thing I can do
I still don't know how to do both
Great video but now I'm just wondering why did I watch this with 11 years of WoT experience, if you didn't angle in WoT, you didn't get far.
Ah yes, now it is much easier to commit war crimes in the KV1-C.
Rounds that typically don't bounce:
HE, HESH
Me in my AVRE: *doubt*
(Note: I know what typically means, no need to inform me about that)
Yep, it gave me flashbacks when I use those rounds
awsomr
Great tutorial, only complaint is the fact that a lot of the video is very repetitive and almost rambling.
Tip: don't do this in TOP TIER
Hahaha I also have good luck on my kv1s
Can someone please help me??? My game keeps saying unable connect to the server for a 2 months!!! Im sure its not my internet ive checked everything!!! Is this only on Xbox? Did anybody else have experienced this problem??? If you could solved this issue please guide me thanks!!!
Haven’t had this problem if it has been going on for 2 months you should contact support Xbox or gaijin. You could try uninstalling and reinstalling.
Update game brother
@@kennethmasters9329 I've reinstalled the game multiple times! Even hard reseted my xbox but nothing happens!!! I've posted on forums and they say it's your connection!!! But I'm sure it isn't!!! I really don't know what to do!!! It's really annoying!!!
@@nightly3225 I've emailed gaijin but they say it's your connection and didn't say much!!! But I've searched the net and I've seen some people experienced my exact problem but unfortunately nobody knows any solution for this issue!!! Guess i have to wait to fix by itself then!!! :((((
@@aryankeyvannia1555 could be your internet provider? Maybe the game isn’t properly updated? Try uninstalling and reinstalling. Idk I’ve never had this happen to me before.
Me-
*Uses maus to Bounce 11 sabot rounds from an m1 Abrams and kills it with ease*
Also me- *somehow gets taken out by an m22*
If they shoot you from a helicopter angling won't help you
The problem here is CAS
Hey, this is a late comment, but I'm asking knowledgeable people here: does this official World of Tanks video also apply to WT? ua-cam.com/video/uKtmnwIwrHc/v-deo.html
I believe it explains angling in WoT very nicely and that it should work in WT the same as well
I was warned that my usual tactics in world of tanks won't work as well here. The game physics feel different so my guess is that apart from the really basic concepts angling in wot ways will likely get you unalived in warthunder
Edit: I am still a new player to warthunder myself after moving from world of tanks recently so I could be wrong. I have tried sidescraping out of habit since I left wot recently and I got recked.
If your driving an IS-7 dont angle. Same with world of tanks
Yoo
i was a main german player, but i stopped playing when i get the tiger h1 and panther D. Like, it doesnt matter when EVERY GAME is uptier you will get blasted making the diamond formation or not, and u have to fight against tanks who is more nimble than you, the turret movement fast than yours, the reload rate faster than you and can kill you with one shot in most of the cases. So if u are strugling with german, just change to russian or eua, its a change of life and help with your mental health kkkkk. And thats why german players lost every game in this tier, cause like EVERYONE they push the ''w'' button, but the enemy always have their cannon on you faster than you can put you aim in them, thats why german lost a lot of games in a row, you need to be a good player. In the other nations, a average player do the trick.
Sounds like a skill issue
Hello
69th comment.... Nice number for some nice content... Thanks for sharing!!
420 let's goo
Angling is also usefull if your girfriend isnt happy it can add up to a half inch of length and a 1/4 inch of girth lmaooo
Wot players 😏
I hope tiger players don't wise up.