BMW Turbo Wastegate MALFUNCTION
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2021
- This one could get EXPENSIVE.
This 2014 BMW X3 2.0L Twin Power Turbo has been going into "reduced power" mode due to a problem with the Electronic Wastegate Actuator.
There is no available information from BMW to troubleshoot these codes, so let's take the logical approach and pinpoint the root cause before loading up the parts sniper rifle :)
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Ivan - Авто та транспорт
"Continue with continue"... ranks right up there with "stand by to stand by"
Or the infamous "No keyboard detected! Press F1" .
Or "An error occurred, while trying to display the previous error", has to be typical of Micro$oft!!🙄🙄
Let me put your thoughts at ease. I can not thank this guy enough for this video. I've had this exact issue on my car and I been up and down the country paid one bmw dealership for 3hr to run diagnostics on the car at a cost of £450 took them 3 hr to find the fault (so they said) quoted me over 4000 for the replacement of the low pressure turbo. That's one bmw took it to the next one 2 hr of checking! This place works quicker than the last one highly recommend them, (NOT)£300 later quoted me over 6000 for both turbos to be changed. At this point I give up drove the car for over a year until I come across this video. We need more people like you in the world God bless and keep up the good work. Fixed it for free thanks to you.
did you use the computer/adjustment stuff or did you just tighen the actuator? because i dont have any of the expensive stuff he's using to do the adjustments but I do have an arm, and some tools. If I just tighten that will it be okay? or will my car just fall apart for some god damn reason?
Try loosening the 10mm lock nut, rotate what he did 3 times and tightening lock nut back up. Won’t hurt anything. If not find someone with ista. It’s free to download but big and you need an enet cable.
Thank you so much for this post. I also went to my dealer. Took them 1,5 hours to come back and tell me, that they have to take out the engine and replace the wiring harness. Cost: 4000€ 🤦♂ How is this legal??? I mean, probably afterwards the some problem would still exist 😤 Really, can't thank you enough! 🙏
Valvoline Cheap oil for this customer??? How many good synthetic oil changes could he purchase with the $900 you just saved him Ivan??? Great job Russian repair once again!
That was actually OEM repair as per the repair service manual
The $900 is probably the hourly rate fee
Should have used German ' Motul ' oil. It's made in Germany for German cars. Yes it's expensive but what else would be appropriate for your Beemer, Merc or VW ???
charles kosyjana Penrite oils?...
BMW engines are noted for self destruction right after warranty. Cheap insurance calls for changing oil and filter at 2X the BMW recommended rate. I wonder if changing the oil every 7,500 Km (5,000 mi) and using cheap oil works to this end. If it was my car, I'd use the good stuff.
Guy with old Buick in back yard removes oil pan, washes it out.
Guy with BMW sits in Customer lounge at Jiffy Lube with coupon.
Awsome repair and no parts required! Getting close to 100K! 💪💪
Thanks Dan! I knew you would be proud of this BMW NPR repair :D
I like that Dan is in close contact with you tubers with great and highly educative automotive contents. Just like scannerdanner. It shows that these things (testing procedures etc) are all universal.
@Milan Harry I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out atm.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Milan Harry it worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my ass!
Now you did it, you knocked the BMW dealer out of a bunch of money. Just think as soon as the diagnostics came back with a fault code the new part would go on and the adjustment would have been made and the customer would see a new part and no more problems and that would be that. The customer gets a bill for 2k the part that is still good goes to the landfill and the replacement part probably won't last as long as the one that is on there now will last. Good job on using the dianostic tools and caring enough to do the job right and take care of the customer.
I can't believe these people drive the German cars pretending to have champagne money but really only beer money. Guy cheaps out on oil change...I am amazed he made it out of the birth canal. Great repair Ivan...you spared that guy two arms and a leg.
And who do you think is going to buy these cars after the first owner decides to trade them in? Or are you suggesting they should just be scrapped instead?
@@rafflesnh I know it will NOT be me. I have been driving Toyota since 2004...it was the smartest choice I ever made.
The buried component in witch touching the component is a challenge, we didn't see the wiring of the connector but that task probably would be too much for me. I suspect the owner is a customer for life, tough that means you have to endlessly work on a falling apart BMW with 80K and beyond miles. At what point does he tell the owner after a fix to dump the car because this car is not a reliable daily driver.
Agreed, I know of well to do folks with big homes and they run around in the dark and during summer, way hot inside homes to save on the power bill. Amazing how psychology works with well off people vs those with just enough.
@@mikefoehr235 You have 1 life, and decided to drive a Toyota for nearly 20 years because you're frugal.
Another epic diagnostic which ends up with fixing just what needs to be fixed, versus randomly replacing expensive parts!!! Nice job again!!!
What scanner were you using?
Love these no parts required videos. Just pure skill and nothing else required 👌🏻
No parts required : Ivan’s speciality Every customer’s favourite. Good advice about the oil changes!
I’ve been having the same issues for the last 2 months and I’ve taken my car to bmw and a local bmw shop. I was told that I was gonna have to replace my whole turbo setup and I was quoted somewhere around 5k from bmw. This was the only vid I’ve found with the same issue I was having. I gave it a shot since I noticed my actuator linkage was a little loose and IT WORKED!!! You literally saved me $5000. Thank you!
Did you use a scan tool to figure out the adjustments or just did 4 turns?
@@B0RNfree I'm having the same issue and the same question. If it's just loose, can't we just turn until it's tight? Why has to be a particular range?
@@paulc.8727 i am also having this EXACT issue and would like to know why this is so particular.
Dealing with this now. Use ista to find what range you are in. I loosened the retaining nut. Turn the big tip of the actuator like he did 3.5 almost 4 turns and then tighten the bolt. Waiting to see if error comes back. If so you might have to tighten the actual bolt behind the retaining bolt the 4 turns the tighten it up.
i think mine is entirely a different issue ... hear this, the rod connect actuator and waste gate disappeared (fall off?)
Ivan, you called it beautifully...that was an “EPIC” BMW fix! Nice diagnosis and repair!
Brilliant diagnosis and repair. Without good service data and a scope 99% of garages would have shot down a turbo and actuator. This was a good one
My car was only going into limp mode when warmed up at first, stopping for gas etc. then it stared all the time right from start up, dealt with it for a long time then saw your video which gave me an idea. I pulled on the waste gate arm towards the front of the vehicle, restarted and limp mode was gone.completed the adjustment (just a little) and fixed. Thank you so much for posting this video limp mode gone.
Man, you saved me $6400, I went to the dealership and they said that I have to replace the turbo! Turns out that I had the exact same problem! And now it’s fixed, thank you so much for this video, you rock!
Just wanted to say thanks! Was looking on how to do EWG adjustments and replace actuator on my 2013 f34 328ix , since at first i thought the problem is with faulty actuator, but watching the video realised that I have exactly the same issue just to a little less extent since I only get it after long driving and doing ignition off / on within a short timeframe, if it stays over night at the morning it dissapears. And I dont actually need to replace the actuator
I dont have access to Launch or ISTA so I decided to blindly adjust it, I did 3 turns, because as I said my issue is less severe. Drive train malfunction gone, everything works good so far after 2 test drives.
Nice Job Ivan. A very thorough diagnosis, repair and proof of repair.
This seemed to be hard to diagnose and you did it without any new parts required!
You did great job and had amazing patient to make all the test you could do
I have seen some repair videos on the net. This video is exemplary to anybody who is posting educational or self-help publishers. First-class video recording. I wish all videos are so detailed. Amazing! Thank you so much!!!
The money you saved him,go for a good oil change and filter. I have a 2008 crv and I use oem fluids and filters..as well as my F350 6.0. Great job Ivan per usual!
I'm surprised display didn't say "drive to dealership, bring checkbook"
Kevin Barry I'm surprised "the" display.....
I think it did say, consulte service ctr", lol. Present credit card!!!
There is a whole Twitter meme about this when BMW PR asked "Tell us you drive a BMW without telling us you drive a BMW".... A whole lot of the replies were about BMWs constantly breaking and costing far too much to repair....
A checkbook, jeez, that must have been 20 years ago since I used that!
@@ronaldderooij1774 it was a metaphor. Sorry you didn't catch it
Thank you so much for the informative diagnosis. I bought the bimmer 7 years ago with this annoying rattle that I never understood. I was prepared to buy a new actuator before seeing this. Now I have a smoother sounding car and saved $250. I'm stoked. Cheers
Awesome!
did it rattle the most in eco pro mode ? it's turning me crazy!!! i have 1 year warranty on my car but i don"t know how to tell my dealership to fix it... how do i tell them
Please continue to bring your personal version of genius systems analyst, we need you out here!
Thank you, Ivan! 👏👏👏
Love your chill explanation and easy thinking. Step by step, not shooting parts. You were asking yourself the strategy about closing the waste gate valve on idle. When on idle the next thing is driving, so turboboost is needed. The turbo is already in this position so it does not have to react on throttle but is already there. The airflow on idle is low, so turboboost or speed is never exceeded. All safe but ready to fire up! Keep up the good work!
Always love your detective work, Ivan. No parts on a BMW.. There's a chance pigs may fly yet. Good job!
As a new BMW owner of a ‘17 540i xdrive I really took interest in this. I’ve seen videos of turbo swaps on late model BMWs where installers stresses the importance of not changing the waste gate settings while swapping it over to a new turbo.
Ivan. I "rode" with you throughout the entire diag and fix. Great analytical thinking to get to the "fix point." When you were calculating the number of turns on the rod assy, I said out loud: "Three turns." :) Missed it my one. :) I love it when your plans come together. I know you get great satisfaction in "figuring it all out," and so do I watching you. :) Love it. Thanks,
Great tutorial. I had a broken mechanical linkage and got it machined and replaced. The car runs like new. The part on adjustment is very useful indeed. Thank you.
Worked like a charm. I had the same engine, mileage, and error code on my BMW 428i (F36). I decided to try 4 rotations of the actuator arm instead of replacing the turbo like the mechanic wanted to.." to avoid turbo failure while driving". No error code after three months of driving. Thank you for the video
Had the same exact problem at 150K miles, this video was super helpful. Used Ista+ to do the wastegate adjustment procedure. Mine was out -2.99 mm.
UA-cam REWARD IS COMING 100K
He's going to have 6 zeros before I have 3! lol
What's the reward?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics- silver play button bro! You're so humble about your success.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics - Only 3k to go, Ivan! Congrats!! Well deserved I might add. 👍🍻
Awesome video!! Great job of methodically diagnosing actual problem rather than just throwing parts at the situation. You just helped me fix my x1 with the same problem. Thanks!!! I was avoiding taking it to a garage for fear of being sold $1000's of dollars for a bunch of unneeded parts. Thanks again!!
Exactly!!! They buy a $50,000 car and put .50 cent oil and filter in it. Bad move that will cost you in the end. But the good news, more repair work for you👍
Excellent diagnosis. Seems too easy a repair for a BMW; saved the car owner big $$$
Yeah I was ready to quote him the actuator haha
Makes you wonder what a bmw dealership would have quoted him for! Car wizard had a similar video on a n Audi Q5...
Fixed it, all thanks to you! -2.94 mm at 194.000 km
Sweet fix Ivan! Thanks for taking us along!
From one BMW mechanic to Another BMW mechanic i thank you very much for your video, i was fixing M235i customer towed with terminal 15N2 short to ground code, crank no start, so i found the issue on ISM module and replaced it and car started up, took it for a spin and bam exact same code for wastegate, i fixed tons of vacuum wastegate and electric one never dealt before, have exact same launch scanner and mine showed 3.99 negative, so luckily i ran in to your video, and i could not call my customer and tell him, guess what i fixed your issue now you have a turbo issue LOL, so i adjusted without telling my customer and SHE IS HAPPY just like you said :))) so N55 and N20 is exact same adjustment on the wastegate. Thank you Partner, stay safe and keep the awesome videos coming !!!!!
Not just a "great repair," that's farquing awesome! Funny- wife was in St. Coll. yesterday when the issue arose! Had I known, would have sent her to you. However, given the precision of the system, and the fact you so carefully diagnosed 4 turns for repair at first sign of problem, I too will try 4 turns, and bet I can replicate the repair. Saved me unbelievable time, expense, confusion.
2014 BMW 328i xdrive at 110k miles. Had exact same issue come up. Drivetrain malfunction but with engine code P1290. I replaced coolant temperature sensor, which did not fix the issue. Found this video and did the 4 turns on a whim because I don't have any software. It worked! Been good for 2 weeks and over 300 miles. Thank you so much for this video.
Wow this is by far one of the best diagnostic videos I’ve seen on UA-cam recently,very well explained you’ve just earned a new sub!
Thank you for the kind words! Welcome to the channel 🙂
Now days with all the modules and sensors this issue boiled down to a mechanical adjustment. Another great video Ivan.
Actually NO PARTS REQUIRED??? do my eyes deceive me??? Wow! Great job on fixing that Wastegate adjustment and testing all that!! Wow! Great video, bud! Many thumbs up! 👍
The moment you mentioned a rattle noise i realized it was the culprit. Nothing new from bmw but still very professional diagnostic. 👌
Ivan, I agree on the service of oil, my daily driver 2002 VW MK 4 -1.8 T- 289,000 on the clock. Stage 1 flash - cold air intake- heavy-duty exhaust manifold-tuned exhaust system.
my local VW dealer does all the work ( never thought I would be having a Dealer be my primary maintenance provider )
The shop foreman and I have become good friends along with most of the personal there.
Cheers from San Francisco.
Ivan, you are FEARLESS! I love it.
With the money you saved him he should have you do the oil change, you really saved the customers r a fortune. The dealer would not have done that. They would have replaced the actuator if he was lucky and the Turbo is he wasn’t so lucky. Should be an hour for diag. 1.5 at least for the repair
Well what's the guys time and effort worth?
He has to drive the car to another shop for his discount...what's that worth in fuel, time and inconvenience?
Great diagnosis Ivan, allways learning something new, thanks for sharing.
Best regards from the UK.
John.
My god. You literally just solved my problem. I’ve been trying to find the source for months!! I have a 3 series diesel of the same year model. Yet every single issue you mentioned I was having as well to a T. It only happens when the motor is hot, the car will then go into limp mode “driveshaft malfunction”. Even the rattle on start up. Thank you!
You just know the dealership would've thrown a new actuator/sensor assembly at it and charged more hours than you on top of parts.
Yep! They asked me to go ahead and replace everything. Even the oil tubes .... ~$5k
Your absolutely right!!!
Their diagnosis would be to replace the complete Turbo assembly w/ actuator
Thats the dealer way
The most lovely video about car repair Ever!! ❤
This is how BMW cheaply restock their used car lots. Now I understand how there can be nothing but BMW:s in them.
Gotta use that 50 cent coupon you got from a paper you paid $2.30 for!
Great repair ! If he had taken it to the dealer they probably would have sold him a turbo for several thousand dollars !
Actuator + labour would probably be $1500- $2000 Most customers will trade it in and sign up for a new lease and BMW has a healthy stock of used cars in their lot for the lowest outlay.
Yes but it would have fixed the problem. 😜
My dealer wants 6k in Seattle for the turbo n20. Taking into my own hands now.
this is exactly what the dealer told me, to change out the entire turbo when it was just the wastegate issue. dealer wanted $6000 LOL.
that just happened to me
What a honest guy. I bet if it was someone else they would of said they had to order the part and charge a arm and a leg
Thank you so much man; just fixed my F30 328i with 281,000 miles using your video. You gained one big fan.
That's a lot of miles! 👌
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I’m up to 336,000 miles and it just happened again. Came back for all this useful information. I’m going to try it tomorrow.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics so I’m up close to 364,000 miles and I’m back with the same issue. The problem I have now is I’m out of thread on the waste gate 😂 does this mean a new turbo? Maybe.
Ivan, thank you very much for this video. Just got my X3 imported from the USA and it was having the exact same problem. I believe they throw it away because of this! After scanning the car and saw those electric wastegate leaning position out outside tolerance remembered I've watched a video with you doing exactly the same thing and came here for reference again. Problem fixed for now until the wastegate valve completely dies :D Keep up the good work! Thanks you!
Thanks so much for this video! Been dealing with drivetrain malfunction on/off for about 6 months now. I took my car into shop couple months ago for this same turbo related drivetrain malfunction code. They said they would try a new battery to see if it would get the code to go away. (Didn’t make much sense to me how a battery could fix loud turbo rattle) They said sometimes a uncoded battery could cause the drivetrain malfunction. I said yeah let’s try it thinking that if it didn’t work they’d put old battery back in which was still new at the time. We’ll that didn’t fix the problem and they still charge me $500 bill total. Robbery. Thought I was doomed for new turbo. You helped me do this with one 10mm wrench in my driveway in 5 minutes thank you!
A true Master Mechanic!!
Boss your a legend no more error less gooo!!!🙌
Same issue, fixed within an hour and a very happy customer
Thank you sir
This was super helpful! Had the exact same problem and fixed it by adjusting the waste gate actuator. Used ITSA to diagnose and obtain required adjustment parameters.
ISTA
I wanted to take the time to say thank you! I just did this adjustment on my 2013 BMW X1 and you helped me saved $6000!
Did you just wing your calculations of rotations? How many turns did you do?
@@merkem02I’m also trying to figure this out lol I don’t have ISTA
Man where do u find the guts to tackle these problems.....Flawless and epic indeed
This is the first time I have ever seen a Hall effect sensor used to output a linear voltage. This requires 2 things in addition to the sensing element itself : the actuator rod must vary magnetic flux density with position and there must be an op amp inside the sensor/housing (actual Hall voltage is usually in mV).
How simple can it be. Just wear in the linkage. Nice fix Ivan.
Great repair to watch even though the electrical part is somewhat over my head
Thanks for the video
Excellent repair. Oil change places love to strip the drain plug
So profesional perfect diagnosis I bet that customer was thrilled
Excellent video Ivan, thank you! Is pretty much the same system you find in the turbo Hyundai Santa Fe, launch x431 has bmw OEM diagnostic software, that is really helpful
Great job Ivan. What, no parts repair, nice.
finaly a new video :) was starting to get the shakes.. needed a Pine Hollow fix now .. :) keep up the good work
scotty is looking for friends...
Man your video helped my out for the same exact combination of fault codes in F30 318i . And the linkage regulations fixed the problem.
Just like everything in life, knowledge is power! Great video, I still prefer the vacuum waste gate on my T5.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! KUDOS mate for this one -great, just, great documentation about the wastegate rod play that might come up at a certain point.
I had this problem on my 2013 328i and followed your steps and my drive train malfunction and codes 123401, 123432, 120408 are cleared now!! Nice job again 👍🏻
Nice!
Excellent diagnostic.!!!
Another big win for Ivan. Almost at 100k subs. Congratulations. I remember the younger Ivan that drops in to South Main Auto and ends up amazing Eric with an introduction to the relative compression test and, no doubt, to the you, the engineer kid himself. Who also was a natural on youtube. How about a 100k reunion video? At this point you will be at 250k soon. ref youtube video Hyundai Tucson P0173 Case Study Part 2
This was so helpful and the exact technical information I needed. The problem is fixed. Thank you!!
Fantastic diag work my man 🙌🔥
Awesome video and detail in your work!
I had this exact problem. Saw 5 mechanics in under a month and all put thier machines to it and couldnt fix my problem. One said he has to download a special file to do a wastegate ajustement.
I saw this video and fixed my problem under 2 min.
I only did 2.5 turn though.
It now works great finally.
Thankyou very much for this video
Did you do it without a scan tool, and has the issue came back after you fixed it?
@@B0RNfreeany updates?
Cheap valvoline oil change, air cabin filter, engine air filter, windshield wipers $220.00 - $7 coupon 😄
Fabulous content! YOU SAVED ME HELLA A LOT OF MONEY. Alright here’s my experience, I have a 2013 Bmw 328i f30 with N20 engine with the exactly the same malfunction. Also I am a college student so I don’t have enough money to pay the dealership which they were asking about $4000-$5000 to change the whole turbo. Also I don’t have any expansive coding device, but I have a foxwell one which doesn’t do a whole lot. So I gave this a try, first I turned the nob twice for adjusting the linkage without any information and it cleared out the warning for me but wasn’t giving me enough power so I turned it again for one more turn and it got better. Hopefully the warning doesn’t come back!!!🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
I don’t have any scan too neither, even if I did I probably won’t know how to use it. I’m going to try your method give it a 2 turns, add more turns if it needs it. Did the malfunction issue comeback, because the dealer is telling that the turbo has to be replaced over $4,000 for it.
Always enjoy you’re trouble shooting techniques.
You’re awesome man. This helped me diagnose that my wastegate actuator arm was broken
Well I was just quoted $4500 for a new turbo. I found your video and adjusted the wastegate but only did three turns. Unfortunately I do not have the software to find the exact specs. Start of the car codes all went away car is running fine and the turbo is now working.
I don’t have a scanner neither to tell how much it is off. I’m going to turn it 1 at a time, test drive, and adjust turn again if needed. How is it holding up did the malfunction error came back?
Man Ivan I love your videos. Such an auto gangster!!
Great video. Tightened and it fixed the issue. Check engine light gone
I liked your trouble shooting method. Great video and thought process in finding problems.
Ivan a fix it again!......ooops that’s Dan.....hahaha. Well done friend. Can’t wait until you and Rob D do your collab video man. If I was in PA You’d be my mechanic of reference. Enjoying watching your channel grow friend. Great stuff.
Brilliant. Absolutely Brilliant. Not sure what device you were using to determine the out of tolerance for the adjustment. Looks like an app on an iPhone.
Your presentation style was also brilliant.
Ready for the junkyard!! Surprisingly it was not a $1000 part that needed to be replaced.wait 80k is comming!! Thats a revelation a cheap BMW owner.
nice job Ivan.
Epic! Love learning keep up the good work man!
wonderfull job mate am watching you by the time you start work profisionlly
Epic no parts required is correct! I would bet the stealership would said they replaced the whole motor. Then do the adjustment and charge the customer for N.E.W. part. I don't trust Express lube places for my HHR so I definitely wouldn't trust them with a BMW. Yeah to go Ivan!
Great job! Enjoyed your process as usual.
Браво Иван, добра работа.
Thanks a lot ! Your video helped me to solve same problem in my BMW 520i 2014 N20 engine.
Another fine job Ivan.
Great video! As a brand new subscriber, I'm glad to be helping you to reach 100k.
I discovered your page while looking at the "so you want to go mobile" round table.
I'm myself also looking to go mobile, but I'd like to first cut my teeth by keeping my day job and take a few jobs at home here and there to get the hang of working on my own and get known a little by word of mouth.
Now I see from your video, you seemed to be working from your home garage. Is that the way you work? Part mobile, part from home?
Great fix as always, Ivan!