I learned the Ocean Walker method and found it was useful but it was definitely a big shift in my swimming technique. It depends heavily on glide and kick. I found the Ocean Walker technique useful for certain swimming situations but eventually went back (once my shoulders were well) to traditional swimming technique. In short, it is a good stop-gap method to use while the more important healing and therapy continues. It made it easier to accepted the fact that my shoulders would get better when they get better. I found Ocean Walker technique sedated my urge to swim (or do anything) that would set back my therapy. But, to put it in perspective, it took me 5 yrs. to completely (emphasis on - completely) solve my serious shoulder issues. But, 5 yrs. is just a number. Numbers and averages mean nothing when it comes to healing. The more you get wrapped up in the "expected/typical" time for improvement, the more your expectations become wanting too-much, too-soon. And, that mindset and sense of urgency leads to frustration. And, frustration is the biggest detriment to any successful long-term therapy. My biggest suggestion having been in a very similar situation (but being 55 yrs. old at the time) is to use the same discipline and determination you used to begin the journey toward completing your first Ironman and apply it to therapy/treatment. Do this and you will find success. Good Luck - Oh, BTW, Don't expect Ocean Walker technique to solve a shoulder problem. It should only be used if it doesn't hurt or make your condition worse. I started too soon and pulled back my shoulder use in general, then went back to the Ocean Walker technique after my shoulders were better prepared by doing therapy and treatments plus a LOT of rest.
Hi mate. Thank you for the very extensive reply and taking the time to do that and help me. Really appreciated. You’re certainly right there though in the frustration element. Time is the most important thing and patience. Thank u for the information on the swim technique - that’s really good to hear and it’s what I need in terms of people that have learnt that method. I’m not jumping in tho with it until I have zero pain. I must say mornings are great currently as waking with no pain at all but it doesn’t seem to last all day. Saw the consultant yesterday and he seems happy with progress and is confident things will settle further so that has made me feel better. Where are u based mate?
@@TriToBeIron US... Texas. Did my first triathlon in 1986 (if my memory is correct). Have done 100's of sprint distance tris and about 20 - 70.3 (or called, Half IM when I did most of them) and 5 IM. In the early years of doing IM distances... there was NO book on how to do them. Most of what is taken for granted today as proper training was being created when I started. You could say, I have a lot of experience... which is just a phrase that means, I made LOTS of mistakes... which, in turn, makes me more of professional medical patient than any thing else. IMHO, there is a psychological element to every injury. And, that is the missing piece of the puzzle that very few doctors fully understand. In many ways, athletes and injuries is not that dissimilar to OCD disorders and type-A personalities that need consideration when it comes to long-term treatments. To me, this is the missing important element when treating athletes. This is also why the "typical" healing time is inaccurate for many triathletes. This in turn adds to the medical problem associated with "long-term" treatment as it relates to short-term vs. long-term perceptions of many athletes. This relationship complicates recovery in ways that many doctors do not fully comprehend - unfortunately.
@@joemoya9743 wow. That's a lot of triathlons! U've certainly had some longevity in the sport and have learnt a lot on the way it seems. It's a great sport though and one I hope to have many more years in. Agree though that a lot of injury and the psychological element is misunderstood. Acceptance is one I've certainly come to learn over my time. We have to accept that we will encounter injury, but it is how we deal with it that is important. I certainly think that as athletes whom have a drive to train,. perform and be consistent (tendency or some link to addictive personalities there no doubt) we sometimes rush the process and healing takes longer than expected.
Sorry to hear about the slowing down/hitting a bit of a wall with rehab. Very frustrating indeed. Hopefully you'll notice more progress after the 12 weeks.
Sorry to hear about the frustration, it's always annoying when you really want to do something but know the body isn't quite ready but you are doing the correct thing by listening to your body. We wish you a speedy recover ❤🩹
I learned the Ocean Walker method and found it was useful but it was definitely a big shift in my swimming technique. It depends heavily on glide and kick. I found the Ocean Walker technique useful for certain swimming situations but eventually went back (once my shoulders were well) to traditional swimming technique. In short, it is a good stop-gap method to use while the more important healing and therapy continues. It made it easier to accepted the fact that my shoulders would get better when they get better. I found Ocean Walker technique sedated my urge to swim (or do anything) that would set back my therapy. But, to put it in perspective, it took me 5 yrs. to completely (emphasis on - completely) solve my serious shoulder issues. But, 5 yrs. is just a number.
Numbers and averages mean nothing when it comes to healing. The more you get wrapped up in the "expected/typical" time for improvement, the more your expectations become wanting too-much, too-soon. And, that mindset and sense of urgency leads to frustration. And, frustration is the biggest detriment to any successful long-term therapy.
My biggest suggestion having been in a very similar situation (but being 55 yrs. old at the time) is to use the same discipline and determination you used to begin the journey toward completing your first Ironman and apply it to therapy/treatment. Do this and you will find success. Good Luck
- Oh, BTW, Don't expect Ocean Walker technique to solve a shoulder problem. It should only be used if it doesn't hurt or make your condition worse. I started too soon and pulled back my shoulder use in general, then went back to the Ocean Walker technique after my shoulders were better prepared by doing therapy and treatments plus a LOT of rest.
Hi mate. Thank you for the very extensive reply and taking the time to do that and help me. Really appreciated. You’re certainly right there though in the frustration element. Time is the most important thing and patience. Thank u for the information on the swim technique - that’s really good to hear and it’s what I need in terms of people that have learnt that method. I’m not jumping in tho with it until I have zero pain. I must say mornings are great currently as waking with no pain at all but it doesn’t seem to last all day. Saw the consultant yesterday and he seems happy with progress and is confident things will settle further so that has made me feel better. Where are u based mate?
@@TriToBeIron US... Texas. Did my first triathlon in 1986 (if my memory is correct). Have done 100's of sprint distance tris and about 20 - 70.3 (or called, Half IM when I did most of them) and 5 IM. In the early years of doing IM distances... there was NO book on how to do them.
Most of what is taken for granted today as proper training was being created when I started. You could say, I have a lot of experience... which is just a phrase that means, I made LOTS of mistakes... which, in turn, makes me more of professional medical patient than any thing else.
IMHO, there is a psychological element to every injury. And, that is the missing piece of the puzzle that very few doctors fully understand. In many ways, athletes and injuries is not that dissimilar to OCD disorders and type-A personalities that need consideration when it comes to long-term treatments. To me, this is the missing important element when treating athletes. This is also why the "typical" healing time is inaccurate for many triathletes. This in turn adds to the medical problem associated with "long-term" treatment as it relates to short-term vs. long-term perceptions of many athletes. This relationship complicates recovery in ways that many doctors do not fully comprehend - unfortunately.
@@joemoya9743 wow. That's a lot of triathlons! U've certainly had some longevity in the sport and have learnt a lot on the way it seems. It's a great sport though and one I hope to have many more years in. Agree though that a lot of injury and the psychological element is misunderstood. Acceptance is one I've certainly come to learn over my time. We have to accept that we will encounter injury, but it is how we deal with it that is important. I certainly think that as athletes whom have a drive to train,. perform and be consistent (tendency or some link to addictive personalities there no doubt) we sometimes rush the process and healing takes longer than expected.
Sorry to hear about the slowing down/hitting a bit of a wall with rehab. Very frustrating indeed. Hopefully you'll notice more progress after the 12 weeks.
Yeh let's hope so! Thanks for tuning in.
Sorry to hear about the frustration, it's always annoying when you really want to do something but know the body isn't quite ready but you are doing the correct thing by listening to your body. We wish you a speedy recover ❤🩹
That's very kind of you. Thank you and well done on your efforts over in Warwick!
Frustrating but take your time. Im sure you will be fighting fit in no time.
thanks dude!