The Problem with Rocket League in Fortnite
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2023
- Rocket Racing has just been released in Fortnite. Until now, no one really knew what to expect with it. Will it be similar to Rocket League at all? What does it mean for actual Rocket League? Today, I answer these questions and more.
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My big concern with Rocket Racing being released largely comes from the fact that many of the Rocket League developers revealed that this was the big project they had been working on for the past couple years. While we all thought the Rocket League developers were working on Unreal Engine 5 or some other big plans for Rocket League, it turns out that they were working on something that wasn't even coming to Rocket League at all. It's disappointing to say the least, and it's why I'm concerned about what this means for the future of Rocket League as well.
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It feels like a betrayal to be told “we’re working on new content for the game” and that new content has nothing to do with the game we love. It’s just disappointing
Betrayal?? They don’t owe you anything lmao
@@ElBean_ You understand how expectation-setting works right?
Expectations are set that Rocket League is still their priority and that the reason for so little apparent work is that significant under the hood stuff is going on. Under the hood stuff turns out to be not Rocket League, expectations violated.
Psyonix hasn't historically been untrustworthy so much as occasionally incompetent, forgivable stuff, but completely setting wrong or awful expectations and then violating those expectations spectacularly is the kind of stuff which nearly destroyed Unity, for example.
@@sunderkeenin couldn’t of said it better myself
@@ElBean_stop being toxic no one asked you kid 😂😂
@@Ziggyvu that’s not being toxic? Do you know what toxicity is? Lmao
people keep saying that "rocket racing was the reason why trading got removed" but for me they're using rocket racing as an excuse to get rid of it. all epic want is our money, so if you can't trade anymore, you gotta buy the items from the item shop. biggest asshole move i have seen in this game
Or through *Fortnite*
**** them nice i get prepared for this ****ing money lovers
@@princetbz1102u can’t trade in Fortnite
yeah they saw valorant and thought we can do the same. just overpriced carbage and no way to redeem some of it unless you sell your account.
dont et me wrong i am not for trading stuff in games at least not when there is a way to earn real money from it like cs:go. kids will get bullied and scammed and stuff. but just in game trading is okay for me. but the skins and cars also need to be a normal price then. if i look at valorant where some skins are sold for 50 bucks each and no trading. that is where is say wow what the. skins may have value but only by the community set. skins that are rarely sold or dropped are more rare not if the just have a tag from the devs and everyone can just buy them. the finals also has that example the rare/legendary in their battlepass is in game credits how is that legendary when it is simpleway in the battlepass on the first levels.
now we get this stuff in rocket league and the price will only go up.
we love the game but we should stop playing. and let another dev team/studio take over or develop a competitor
Ya you might be totally correct
When Epic bought Rocket League, the community was worried the game would become a neglected cash grabber. It took some time, but Epic delivered! Waiting for an indie developer to make a spiritual successor. Feels like just a matter of time before Epic shuts down even more servers to prioritize their bigger cash machines.
yeah we really need a small studio or dev team to pick up where rl stopped a few years ago.
yeah but it would never be the same as a indie dev team couldnt recreate what phsyonix built in the past 8 years while also not having proper funding. honestly im hoping i get proved wrong tho @@allinadadsday
Wah wah 😢
Well, I recently contacted Lethamyr, as I could be an investor and potential executive producer, but of course he didn't answer to a no-name like me.
@@allinadadsday There is no way they can actually make the gameplay as perfect as it is in Rocket League. While Epic sucks, the core gameplay is perfection. I think the core gameplay is better than any other game, period.
the saddest part about the nonexistent updates in rocket league is that the community has both EXPLAINED and MADE what we would love to see in the game. its not just "we want an update!" its "this is explicitly what we want here is a way to implement it" (custom maps for example)
Psyonix releases like 4 maps per year, meanwhile leth posts a map every damn week (tbf some of them suck but some are great)
@@erecno7979and most new rl maps suck, so leth is still standing strong
@@nevan2201 I completely disagree. The new maps have been great for the last few seasons, especially s13
@@erecno7979 some of the maps have been great fs... but its just visual there is no new feature to them which is the disappointing part ngl
@@erecno7979Epic is consistently subpart at best. At least they are consistent.
Honestly the way Epic treat us is just embarassing
tbh, Tim Sweeney is a F hypocrite ;(
This mode would’ve been so much better in rocket league itself. With all the movement tech and demos it would’ve been perfect and easy to integrate
But ofc how couldn't they want to expand fortnite player base now by even kinda focing rl players to play rocket racing fortnite
Like every other new mode they added to game that everyone plays for 2 days the community did this to themselves lol
@@haydenbrown3788 the only person actually making a good point in this comment section
@haydenbrown3788 Really? The community did this? The community got Psyonix to get bought out by Epic? The community told epic to make shitty updates, and just to smear the game with filth? You think less than a monkey would.
Epic’s doing what other game companies are too scared to do… destroy their game 😂
EA destroyed Battlefield, the last realistic 'war' game we had :(
I mean, have you seen Overwatch lately? Blizzard took a flamethrower to it.
*Activision has entered the chat*
Yeah, Bungie is up there, too.
Every company destroyed its game are you crazy. Minecraft, now CS 2, valorant is weird, fortnite and so on
I think they should just listen to the community before the game just dies.
I wish they cared enough about something other than money to actually listen to this advice.
What are you talking about? They clearly are listening to the community all the time. I mean for fortnite that is.
Buuut they tried for Rocket League too and got rid of Dropshot that way. I don't know who in the community ever asked for Dropshot and Snowday to be in a rotation but they listened. I demand for the ball to be gone. In 2 years we probably have the same map 10x with other floors (like we have this time with farmsted and wasteland with grass) and gotta pay for each game we want to play
And i wish morons stop spending money on video games
I don't think they killed him
@@Wraikey fortnite is the metaverse. rocket league isn't
They actually pulled Rocket League developers off RL to do... this. That has to be a massive april fools joke that was just too late.
"Oh yeah, we're definitely working on something big and new - just not for the game you think"
The drifting in rocket racing just makes me want to play Trackmania's Canyon environment.
To have content and features removed from an actual game in favor of a mini game that will only see short-term success speaks volumes as to how epic games sees and treats us.
Imagine putting Rocket League in Fortnite and having actual people as the audience instead of our Egg overlords.
They didnt! Did they? Thats just disrespectful
@@FATMAC2they didnt
@@kingswag876they did😢
@@nevan2201oh i thought he meant that they changed the crowd in rl
THEY WILL...
I usually play Rocket League with about 140 ping, so I could imagine the hell I will experience if I get this game
I honestly suspect that the fabled "Rocket League 2" might be a thing launching inside of fortnite, once all of rocket leagues assets and cosmetics get ported into Fortnite, we already have a car that acts like the Rocket league vehicle inside fortnite currently only usable inside of Creative
that would just be sad
Ive driven a rocket league car in Fortnite creative, feels nothing like rl
Rocket league car on top. Fn Octane feels trash.
I just dont get why at the end with the dev tweets they were all like "omg yayy this is so emotional im very glad my project has been revealed now" its like bruh this whole time its been a FORTNITE MODE??? Has nothing to do with RL and no wonder the games gotten more stale lately
The developers get no say in what they actually work on. They listen to senior developers, who listen to lead developers, who listen to project managers, who listen to VPs and executives. And that’s at a smaller company. Only when you get to the lead developer position do you get a small say in what you make. The decision was made for them, and they chose to work hard for almost two years on what they were assigned, and they’re happy people can finally see what they worked on
@@yourmomsboyfriend3337The game mode is ass and they lead us on worse than my highschool girlfriend
At this rate they should just make the game open source and let the community update it regularly lmfao
i think why they went silent until the last minute was because of their decision to remove trading. if they posted a season 13 trailer, for example, they would get 100% hate and i would be one that’s hating too and everyone would quit
They announced the removal of trading before the S13 trailer dropped, wdym?
And they got a shit ton of hate for it.
so 99% of the items that we can no longer trade arent even in rocket racing?
no dropshot either :(
Realized that yesterday it was the only extra mode I liked to play:(
So mad, I love Drop Shot. Best extra mode, BY FAR.
Love your videos keep it up bro it always makes me happy when you post
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
When you get announcements like this 10:05 its just hard to trust them
Great video, and agree with so much. Countdown to the countdown is hilarious, along with the crowd crash.
One of my favorite games of all time was "Battlerite" an arena battle game with incredible gameplay and high skill ceiling. The devs decided to instead of working on this great base of a game to instead work on a Battle Royale version of the game. The playerbase was devastated. The Battle Royale version flopped, and the devs tried to implement some of their Battle Royale ideas to the Arena Battler version which trashed the game. The arena players game were ruined and the royale version flopped.
This feels similar in many ways. I just assumed Epic made Rocket Racing and not Psyonix. I am deeply concerned that Psyonix isnt putting in enough effort into improving rocketleague and instead watering out the IP.
I really wish the entire psyonix put all their love and heart into improving Rocket League and the (alleged) UE5 version.
I don't think psyonix has any say in what happens, I wouldn't blame them. Rocket League is no longer owned by psyonix, they just work on the game when daddy Epic tells them too.
Damn, I was on the same boat as you! Just when I thought Battlerite could replace my Dota2 addiction at the time =(
That tm8 bumping you at kick off on the 1st match...I felt that. So did my ancestors.
Love the videos keep it up!
Crazy how inverted gameplay feels normal now. At first driving upside down always messed with my brain. Now it feels weird if it’s not backwards when upside down
ballz in fortnite :0
I’m plat 1 in it rn and the courses get more complicated as you rank up
I've been playing rocket league since 2017 and I remember the og moments with the crates keys and the og spinning wheel and getting TW wonderments when they first came out because I did and also trading i also remember all the og dracos and zombas as well that's what made this game fun but ever since epic bought out psyonix we have went downhill but I never thought they would remove the one core feature keeping this game alive i hope one day they realize this and will bring back trading but who knows at this point
The maps in Rocket Racing are determined by your rank, so you saying that the maps in Ranked are all too easy is because you were only playing in Silver and Bronze. Otherwise, great video. With that being said, I honestly think Rocket Racing is dope. I just hope it doesn't interfere with the future of Rocket League.
Honestly, it's starting to feel like, if we get a Rocket League 2 / UE5 etc... it's going to be a Fortnite game mode, isn't it? I didn't realize until Rocket Racing that they were making it such a roblox-like game launcher but that feels inevitable now.
Man, it's rough seeing all those Psyonix dev tweets. I wonder if they're really on board with all their resources going to Rocket Racing right now too.
It’s hilarious because we thought at least we’d get most of our garage like bodies wheels boosts and decals in Fortnite yet only the Lambo Cyclone Jäger Diesel Octane and OEM wheels are available.
The irony at the end of telling us he is working on something big and that's why he didn't upload. Please don't let it be a rocket racing project aswell
i will say this, i havent been watching a lot of RL videos because it just the same old stuff. when i hear the news about trading being removed killed me and what still piss me off still even tho it been 2 months since they announce the bad news is that we didnt hear anything about whats happening until the 8th! the rotation of LTMs made me wanna came back to the game and not focus on grinding and raging at my awful teammates in ranked. we need a big update that will bring back people. Right now, i dont have faith that RL will last another 2 years like this without us having UE5.
Really Awesome Video! I like ur Stuff bro, but was this the huge documentary tht u called in ur 2023 mech video?
Nope haha. I address that at the end of this video. That big documentary video is still a little ways away but it’s coming together.
@@WaytonPilkin Jooooo nice Iam really hyped! I actually thought u wont answer my question, thts so cool tht u answer fans! Ur insanely underrated!
They removed a bunch of extra modes and threw them into a rotating queue. Wtf. I am done with this game
No they didnt. They only made ranked dropshot and snowday change with each season. And they added Spike rush, knockout and rocket labs
Well, Drop Shot is my favorite mode outside of 2v2 and Snow Day is my LEAST favorite mode, so they can suck it. What a moronic decision they made.
7:20 glad i'm not the only one who hates the ceiling driving controls
7:18 was an epic saved 😂
I just love wayton's opinions ❤
As you rank up the difficulty of tracks you get increases.
the easy maps u were talking about onliy appear in bronze and silver. The map difficulty increases as your rank does
5:05 the courses get harder as you rank up to gold, play, diamond I think
Kinda glad I stopped playing a few months ago. I love this game but it just got stale and I didn’t have the time to improve beyond GC2. Now I feel like it’s only a matter of time until it dies out if updates continue to be like practically non existent. Also I feel like psyonix’ focus might shift towards Rocket Racing (if it hasn’t already)-> less content for rl -> less players which could result in a death spiral for rl. I hope I’m wrong but that’s how I see it
The problem is full of bugs and quality of a mobile game.
and the fact they marketed it as a rocket league racing game and its NOTHING like it
Damn what kind of mobile games are you playing?
@@jitterclicked5904 Well, they never said a single word about it being a gamemode that's the same as rocket league
Asphalt 8 and 9@@notwtr
Hi, GC RL player here, and racing game enjoyer in general, currently Diamond 3 in RR.
To me the main thing about Rocket Racing is not the difficulty of the maps per se but rather the optimality level you can reach.
This game is all about getting the perfect lines (as in all other racing games) but the fact that some boost pads are placed in not necessarily obvious places and the shortcuts layouts make the races and the notion of „optimal line“ completely different from other racing games, which I find very interesting.
Plus the fact that the races can get pretty intense very rapidly.
This game, despite my first impressions, is genuinely fun to play.
There are obviously problems with queue times, servers, physics.
But if they deal with these problems, Rocket Racing could be huge.
glazing
@@iphoneapple5623 blazing
I was fully expecting to at least have all my cars available in Rocket Racing. Super lame that I only have an Octane and a Jager. It's really just a simple arcade racing game. I've been hopping on to get in a couple races when it's late at night and I'm too tired to keep up with Rocket League and start losing matches.
Yeah.. Super lame that the handful of devs didnt even port like 40 cars into the game, including new models
I completely agree and I said the exact same thing under Lawler's video on Rocket racing a couple days ago
It is so sad to see the current state of this game, as a player that has been playing since 2017 I am disappointed.
One race my mini turbo didn't work so everytime i drifted i didn't get any boost and was stuck going slow unless I used the normal boost
7:04 Bro became ur average Mustang driver
Rocket racing has been a blast for me. Currently in platinum 3 with about 85%. Hoping to hit diamond tomorrow.
good video havent watvhed but good videp
Yo wyaton, can we test the top 5% vs 10%. Im champ and i wanna test. Can we make it work?
I opend the Game. Was getting lost because of the new Playlist organisation. Played 2 Games of Rumble. Realised that Dropshot was gone. Closed the Game and didnt open it again since then.
Dropshot was by far most of my time in Rocketleague :(
Yep. I was SO pissed when I realized Drop Shot was gone. I mostly just play 2v2 and Drop. So sad.
There are harder maps that you unlock when you rank up.
speaking as a tryhard rocket league in 2017-19 player who now spends all of their time on Fortnite I logged into rocket league for the first time in years just to see the same cars and halloween cosmetics froms events 4-5 years ago in the shop (for WAY more money than when I was playing might I add) and it felt weird because I feel like I genuinely missed nothing. I don't think it's epics fault for RL staying the same because they aren't afraid to make changes to their main money maker but it might be a matter of logistics i.e not having enough time in the day to focus on RL becuase of RR.
yes! more Wayton
Its like, rocket was already on the way to its grave and they just dug it 20 m deep to fall in and to never see sunlight ever again. I am genuinely concerned how they intend to keep this game alive, when it is such an awesome and unique game.
LMAO that transition into RL Racing was poetic
I really wish they’d just add creative mode to RL. Would be awesome for console players to enjoy workshop maps as well as allow for a whole bunch of different game modes to play without epic having to lift a finger
As you rank up the tracks get harder just fyi :)
I wish rocket racing was just a separate game from fortnite fully fleshed out not just a scuffed fortnite racing mode. That way it would make more sense of cross game inventory
Your teammate was the SSL on the two touch air dribble video
They even deleted training, such a shame
Training is still there.. or it was last time I played
@@FATMAC2its not tho. They deleted training bc people were getting too sweaty
I'm PS5 and literally still have training...tf are y'all on about?
@laurisavolainen3129 ur tripping you can still do all 5 and custom.
Guys it’s a joke. He’s referencing the sunless khan video
They also removed split screening
To be honest. I play up in diamond 2 and my score matches everyone else’s. Although I am hard stuck down in plat 2. I always end up on like 600 points and my tm8 is like on 60. Then we lose. I hate how I can’t just rank up
9:38 I swear I saw a video from you Wayton a few months ago where you were convinced UE5 wasn't happening.
You can race harder maps in ranked. You just have to be higher rank.
When I saw they added Lightning Mcqueen...I was glad I had already quit the game.
its the part where you open Rocket Racing and there is the equivalent of the practice mode goal explosion of items in my account.
if RL trading died for this.... there should be more than 5 racing stripes available for the fortnite cars.
The thought of downloading Fortnite to play this did cross my mind. When I saw the actual gameplay and realised how uninspired this game really is I knew there was no point. As Verge(?) said, he has 37 items in this Fortnite gamemode. Trading was removed to allow cross inventory. Where is it? Stocktane and a Lambo bundle. The only wheels being OEM and Lamborghini. They didn't even give you your items. Don't get me started on the new 4k credits car. Just bring back trading.
How would they be able to remake over 10 thousand items or how many items there even are in this game? It takes time. Also, I wouldn't say the game is uninspired. Linkurus video is pretty good to show you the unbiased game
RL will never go to UE5, it just wont work because the engine RL was built on is completely different. But Psyonix being bought by Epic was the worst thing to ever happen to RL
If they're not getting cash from RL anymore, hopefully they just open source it one day, along with the server code. Then who knows what could be in the future for RL.
They took out drop shot and chaos 4v4!
I literally feel everything you're saying man... It's a fun game mode, but a huge disappointment to what we were hoping for and an even bigger disappointment to remove trading for it...
It seems like they just want to push the rocket league player base over to Fortnite to cash out rather than to invest in Rocket League
Merry Christmas.
I think Epic looks at RL like this: The existing players are not putting much more money into the game. They have their Fennecs and they re-earn the Rocket Pass credits each season. We are not the players Epic is looking for.
But the Fortnite kids (and anyone else who doesn't already play RL), they haven't paid for imaginary stuff in RL yet. They are the "players" Epic is looking for. So the game will be changed to entice them to spend more money on it, and we, who have played the game since release, don't matter.
There is only one solution: competition. How many FPS games and MOBAs are there? Why is there only one (serious) car soccer game? Someone should fix that.
That's definitely true. I bought the game for $20, bought the Batmobile for $2, bought a Rocket Pass for $10, then completed every Rocket Pass for the next 5 years, never spending another dime. I spend WAAAAAY more money on new controllers for Rocket League than the game itself, haha.
you could fix rl by adding more customisation to training packs console included also ADD BACK TRADING
They removed trading for THIS
When playing rank as you rank up you get harder maps unlocked
how much alpha boost gunna be after this trading update?
the fact you cant trade anymore
It just feels like a half assed racing game that they slapped the Rocket league ip on to attract players from the rl community
@Wayton i have a theory. Maybe this was rocket leugues racing mode they were talking about and the unreal engine 5
It's become pretty clear that Epic acquired devs like Psyonix and Harmonix for the team and their skills, not for their IP or passion projects. I'm glad that Rocket League wasn't flat out canceled like Fuser, but that's a really low standard to meet. There's probably gonna be a day where Rocket League straight up shuts down like Epic's older games before they went on an acquisition spree.
Wait are you working on a new Wayton racing mode ?
Share this video with everyone
I don't know if you noticed or I didn't see you mention this but if you hit diamond 3 in Rocket Racing in Fortnite. you will get BLACK OEM'S. The more and more you rank up in Fortnite the more painted Oem's you unlock. AND these wheels not only work in Fortnite but they transfer into Rocket League and are usable in Rocket League.
oh my god... it's ghetto trackmania
shitty mobile trackmania fr
You’re my favorite Fortnite creator, Wayton.
Didn't post the footage of getting bullied by Corelli ☹
I disagree that this new game lacks depth since those advanced tracks a ton of tech to be discovered, and the mechanics while simple are going to be hard to master at a high level. It does have a lot of problems, most notably the desync, but the bones are really good I think. It'll never be a big esport game like Rocket League, but I think it has a lot of potential if they can iron out the kinks. As for Rocket League, I'm hopeful that they are still working on that UE5 port and have just been quiet about it. Epic is just the kind of company to never announce anything until there's a date attached to it. Keep the faith! And great video, that footage was hilarious.
The rank system is just a level up system. It’s not a rank. You can’t lose it.
aside from the somewhat interesting mechanics the game has, with aerials and jumps and whatnot, this game will absolutely not survive long, the only way racing games survive long is if there is a large competitive community. this game will never have that. the normal physics are barebones and easy as shit, wayyyy too beginner friendly, and the kids that will play this game for abit will just go back to the normal battle royale gamemode after a while
racing games and popular don't go together lol this was a waste of time for the devs.
I had a ton of fun racing for maybe 3-4 hours, then it got SUPER stale real fast. Barely anyone will care about this mode in a month.
I've just completely lost faith to be honest. 0 communication + considering Rocket Racing was their priority this whole time I doubt UE5 for the game (assuming they're even working on it) is even close to getting finished. Epic only announces new projects when they are close to getting finished and there's a very good chance that they will just completely abandon the game. At this point I genuinely think that GTA 6 (coming in presumably early 2025) will release before UE5 for RL.
I like how you ended the video with the same kind of Nonouncement Psyonix did for Rocket League after the release of Rocket Racing.
Honestly Rocket Racing is really nice and fun and I love being able to race with rocket league cars but yeah removing trading for that is weird especially since they are only so few items that are available in fortnite (painted octane, oem wheels basically the rest is mostly paid DLC that were released over time) so it seems really not worth it and i think they could have integrated that to rocket league itself like they did for the knockdown mode,
What was the song closing out the video?
Epic not abandoning Rocket League was heard before with Fortnite Save the World...
when are the rlcs decal comming out
After 3k hours of playing this game and then epic does an epic moment and wrecks the game
🤣🤣🤣 your teammate hitting you.....I think it's pretty fun, but it's basically a racing game with rocket league cars, I think they should add pick ups like in Mario kart, add some chaos to the game 🤣😁🤘
Or the rumble power ups
@@yazanyaseen10 that would be pretty awesome actually