May I suggest “What if Raditz got amnesia after the special beam cannon?” I’m thinking Raditz would survive the mankankosapo but the bloodloss and physical trauma would cause amnesia like in that budokai what if. From there, Raditz would fight alongside our heroes against the Saiyans, dying in the fight afterwards. Raditz would regain his memories while dying and make Goku promise to avenge him and defeat Frieza as a result. Raditz would then be revived and become a part of the main cast afterwards, though that’s just how I’d imagine it.
What if krillin, bulma, and Gohan Landes on planet cereal instead of false namek during the filler due to the radar picking up cereals dragonballs? Maybe granolah would be bulmas love interest instead,or granolah and monaito joining them to namek? Thus goku discovering about bardock and gine much earlier?
Liked this one a lot. Tien beating Vegeta in a close fight, and Krillin with Yamcha bodying the Ginyu Force were pretty epic scenes. Also cool to see Raditz get the Kaioken as well as Goku. Though I'm not too sure why the Humans didn't get Kaioken if they saw Goku getting it, and the power it gave him. Maybe during the training for the Androids they can go back and learn the power, wanting to get any way to keep up with super saiyan levels of opponents and just a general wish to not die and protect the earth. Just an idea. Like a kaioken x20 - 30 Yamcha holding off 19 and 20 until the others get there. An idea I've had for awhile is Tien combining his tri beam (and neo tri beam) with the spirit bomb. That'd be sick. My own guess for who Raditz meets is someone like Upa or Eighter. I feel Eighter makes the most sense, being an Android made for killing who hates fighting.
What If Request. (I can't remember if you have already done some of these) What if Gohan drank the Ultra Divine Water before or after entering the Time Chamber with Goku. What if Goku was the first "evolved" Saiyan. (like the Universe 6 Saiyan's who are born without a tail and have more potential) What if Kami regained his youth when King Piccolo did. What if Elder Guru fused with Kami before he died. What if the Super Saiyan God ritual was permanent. (Goku becomes a actual God thereby extending his life expectancy by millions of years, he gets Super Saiyan Rosè instead of Super Saiyan Blue and he is unable to enter the T.o.P) What if Beerus (& Whis) raised Cooler.
1) Based on Z Retcons, the Ultimate Divine Water basically gave kid Goku a Zenkai boost. So Gohan would enter the Time Chamber stronger and should acquire Super Saiyan sooner. 2) Canonically Trunk and Goten were born without tails (due to author's forgetfulness), so they were 'evolved' Saiyans. 3) Honestly Kami should have gotten his youth back from that wish. Unless Shenron read King Piccolo's intent to not share with his other half. 4) Would probably get this current What If, starting in the Android Saga instead of against Raditz. 5) No clue lol
This was another banger video, I like how you're making Raditz much different personality wise from Vegeta, a more mature character who's willing to see the flaws in Saiyan mindsets. I mean he is the son of Gine and Bardock and the brother of Goku, it only makes sense.
I think it's possible for Raditz to have met Fortune Teller Baba at some point during his journey. Maybe he can go back to see if she knows anything about the super saiyan transformation, or recieve a fortune that guides him in the right direction.
Ooooh, who did Raditz meet? He could have met a lot of people… but most of which, nobody cares about. So it’s likely out of the story relevant and fan-remembered characters from OG Dragonball (and the Jaco Manga)… Tights. Tights has experience with aliens, so is probably the best suited for teaching Raditz, especially with her own rebellious streak, breaking away from Capsule Corp living and being an Idols public double and becoming a Sci-Fi author. She’s not too peaceful to annoy him outright, and with her fiery demeanor, she’s probably the best suited to getting through to him. Nam is a great guy, but I feel that would reinforce Raditz’s current mindset that he’s trying to overcome. Eighter/Suno would be magnificent, anything that makes these two relevant is always appreciated, but they might be too much like Gohan to be able to help, or they could be able to contextualize things exactly so that Raditz can understand. Eighter got Goku to kind of understand pacifism, so why not Raditz? Launch is… not helpful, but the potential peer pressure and bullying from zealous MasakoX fans could force this. I like Colonel Violet, but I think she’d be just as not-helpful as Launch. Mercs and thieves aren’t the type to go to when you’re trying to learn about why people might want a contented peaceful life, though they are useful for trying to get someone to accept that people can do whatever they want with their lives. So I guess Launch and Violet have that going for them. Hasky is in the same boat as the last two. But she’s cool, and I like her. Bulma is very similar to her elder sister, though she’s not got most of the advantages for the story as her sister. Piccolo is probably the most likely to end up as Raditz’s best friend, unless the Goku rivalry and seriousness of Big Green squashes that. Also he’s not helpful, being a slave to his fathers will could potentially get Raditz to see the cruelty in that, but the issue isn’t the cruelty, Raditz is just accepting that it’s the way of things, you born strong, you fight, that’s it, the strong rule and the weak suffer. Though that would be a different story. This is “who is Raditz learning about earth from” not “who is he having a blast of a time with”. Loads of other options I haven’t gone over, but I can’t really think of any more right now.
@@leisurelyindex Thanks. I did a lot of thinking about the options that people kept bringing up in the comments, and added Haski (the thief from the amusement park episode during the Red Ribbon arc.)
What if during the fight between hit and goku on earth, instead of gokus Kamehameha shattering his time skip, it malfunctions and sends hit back in time and he meets kid goku and trains him in timeskip? With hit as gokus master he could learn alot. Imagine a timeskip Kamehameha
Training with King Kai is great training but having on the weights from the buu saga was an excellent touch if you ask, if your already use to the high gravity, use weights to make yourself heavier in those conditions to get the best effect for that training, Vegeta losing to the Tien makes sense since the Tri-beam is a strong attack that even had Semi-perfect cell held down so yeah, vegeta's death makes sense in this one, I also love the fact that you make Krillin be able to take out most of the Ginyu force on his own and the is real respect for the humans, though for Raditz, I don't know who he met in the world, but I only have two guesses, one Eighter, so he can understand Gohan a bit more, and two Launch, as I think is a possible love interest, love the video Manga Adventures, can't wait for the next part.
@@MangaAdventures no problem, like I said, TIen's tri-beam is stronger than most people think since it held back semi perfect cell, so again, Vegeta losing makes sense, especially since Tien and Vegeta were mostly equal in the fight and I can't wait for the third part and to see Raditz's experiences with the earth people.
@@MangaAdventures honestly I'm surprised you brought it down to nearly suicidal Kikoho use. At this point in the story Tenshinhan massively outskills Vegeta, he's just a brawler with a lot of power for the saga.
It's definitely interesting seeing Radditz pick up Vegeta's slot in the story. I'm just sad seeing the humans training on Kaio-sama's planet and not learning Kaioken. Quite possibly the biggest narrative mistake Toriyama ever made, it's great when what-ifs correct that.
All in all, a pretty good storyline so far. This falls in line with what all of these characters would most likely do in these situations in my own opinion. Piccolo due to not having the chance to train Gohan will take longer to become a good person, which is something I appreciate more because I felt as if the original story had him changing too quickly, retconning his roots in a way from Namekians being revealed. Vegeta dying to Tien is so poetic, kinda sucks but it really is the only logical step here. It sort of does feel like Frieza's arc got sped up a lot, but that was inevitable since they're all stronger. In the future, I have recommendations for the path Raditz takes. For one, he could probably meet Eighter on his own, and it would be very intriguing to him that a cyborg is actually such a pure being. And if you're planning to make Raditz have a significant other, I see no way around it: bring back Launch (yea Ik this is overdone but Idc). The reason she wasn't kept is because Toriyama forgot about her, likely due to the lack of her being useful within the story. I also think Bulma doesn't blend with Raditz's personality nearly as much, which would lead to the same downfall as Yamcha.
I'd make an argument that the 10x Gravity would be just as effective. when Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks did Gravity training they were heavily effective the first time. However if you compare it to when Goku experianced 10x Earth's Gravity, they strugled just as if not more so. This can be countered by Kid Trunks though, who turned Super Saiyan and was just fine. But to counter that counter, maybe Super Saiyan's power increase can counter the affects of gravity? Im not saying the what-if is wrong, but it's some nice food for thought.
An interesting argument but my counter to that is the z fighters who came to king Kai’s planet after the saiyan saga seemed just fine. Also kid trunks was training in 150xs gravity not 10
@@MangaAdventures I should re-word this, I messed that up re-writting it. Vegeta trained in Gravity 30x greater then Goku did. Vegeta was much more then 30x a power level of 500 (give or take death zenkai's but 500 is close enough and easier to count), but Vegeta struggled just as if not more so then Goku did in 10x. When comparing to Goku's 100x training, he was also more then 3x powerful then that, but (based from what I remember) was struggling more then Goku was. We can also see this with Yamcha, but we don't know how strong he was in comparison to Goku (i'd say 30x isn't too much of a stretch, but I cant confirm that). Trunks pushes that point further. if he's giving 18 concern as a Super Saiyan, he's deffinently more then 15x early Saiyan Saga Goku, but struggles much more. Head-cannon could point this to his child body, but that is head cannon. So the TLDR; Gravity doesn't seem to affect fighters through linier numbers. Because of this, I think that them being stronger wouldn't affect their initial training benefits from 10x gravity. However Gravity specifics in Dragon Ball aren't too touched upon, so the answer could go either way. And as a what-if writer myself, I think we can both agree that at times it's okay to bend rules just a weeeeeeeeee-bit. It's just as you said, an interesting argument I thought I'd mention. I guess you really do read every comment!
@@michaelsong3733 Gravity is definitely weird in dragon and I’m sure akira himself doesn’t know how it works. It’s something that can interrupted many ways
In this situation Tien would have the advantage over Vegeta because he’s always training and refining his skills whereas Vegeta had very little to no training outside his combat missions in which it’s very likely that he never found anyone to match his power.
This is the dragon ball story we all deserve I’m a vegeta fanboy but I feel like it alway should been raditz and goku 2 brothers that once killed eachother working together to defend the universe 🔥🔥🔥
I think you can do something about these Ideas I had... What if Goku met a Yardratian on his Journey or before he went on snake way. What if Goku absorbed the dragon balls when he was young (After Defeating King Piccolo, the dragon balls needed a new vessel since the Dragon statue was broken) and became its new living Guardian. (This is in a sense similar to how Goku was the new Guardian at the end of GT, but he is alive, there is now more importance in his life and that he must also understand the world to better suit his status as it's secret protector.)
What if Goku had the Sharingan, so I’m this what if, there will be a certain class of sayains that had a mutation that allowed them to have these red eyes which burdock would be a descendant of this class, with his different biology from the other sayains, he could you different fire type attacks and when the sharingan is activated, it gives him precognition and all the abilities the sharingan has including the Susanoo and etc when he unlocks the different stages of it when a close friend of his dies. And when radios and goku is born, they will have the fire powers and etc and also, when they awaken the MS, they will have their own abilities, and when they have children, they will also have the sharingan and etc. Also for the royal class sayains, they will also have a mutation allowing them to have lightning powers and the byakugan which vegeta would have, this is my What If idea.
So, this is a random idea I just had and haven't really seen explored, at least not how I think it should be. What if humans had a higher potential? Similar to other species that get transformations, magic, or what have you. Not a change in race, just what if humans were able to get as strong as saiyans or even namekians and maybe had some special transformation of their own?
Would be cool if he met Suno who could have funnily enough mistaken him for goku for a second being brothers and all 🤔 They should bring Nappa and Vegeta back in the android saga for help against cell because Raditz is smart and numbers are always good. ( wouldn't unlock there potential but would have them train in the time chamber )
OOOOHH! I just came up with a new potential what-if! What if the Z-warriors were the MC's. Now hear me out. We pass through the DBZ story proper, but with the Humans (ie Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, and Chiaotzu) as the main characters. Saiyains are a major draw and are the main reason DBZ is the way it is. But what if the humans had their own transformation? Not just kaioken or Roshi's buff form, but their own personal transformation? OR, what if the story is all about how they keep up with saiyans and the ways they do so? Maybe they learn how to better utilize their ki since they will naturally have smaller portions of it than the saiyans. What if this lack of ki becomes their greatest strength because they make up for it with masterful control? Like being able to reabsorb their own ki attacks or concentrating all their ki into smaller points in their fists and feet, thus making them fight more like snipers compared to the saiyans who fight more like tanks? It is a bit out there, but I always loved the Z-warriors and I always wanted to see them match the saiyans in power. Go with it or don't, I still enjoy your content.
I'm a little late unfortunately, but I'm here now and praise you for the great work! Looking forward to part 3 my man. You have a big fan schofield hawaii
First off: way to give Tien his moment in the sun. Yea losing Vegeta sucks, but it make sense in this story especially given the diffrencei nphilosophy (vegeta's born strong mindset vs tien's train to gain mindset.) It makes sense for Vegeta to fall here as there is no reason for an alliance. Second: As for Raditz? Have him visit Uupa. Y'know that little kid Goku met? He'd be all grown by now. Someone who by earth standards is very strong by now. Yet enjoys a life of peace. Someone who's seen war and thinks of growing strong as largely a means to ensure peace lasts as opposed to going out to look for fights, or training for the sake of 'fun.' Also, for the love of Masako. Have him run into launch. Please?
I like see Raditz be equal to his brother I'm looking forward to it, Goku and his brother should train together a lot more to a point Goku and his brother Raditz both train Gohan and Goten together. That be cool to see. plus I would like to see Goku, Raditz, Gohan, Goten, all 4 of them get the Potential Unleashed Form by Elder Kai together as the Son Goku Mystic Family. And maybe see Goku and Raditz combined the Mystic Potential Unleashed Form with there transformations Mystic SS1, Mystic SS2, Mystic SS3, and so on. Same with Gohan and Goten. Please have Goku, Raditz, Gohan and Goten all 4 train on Supreme Kai's Planet and Beerus's Planet. Anything is possible for a what if.
I Think Raditz meet Nam(reason he fits the Saiyan mold naturally stronger then his kinsmen so that strength came with responsibilities. I.e protecting and leading his village. I'm pretty sure that man has a 15,000 powerlevel sense he felt all those changes in energy.) Tights(Bulma's sister, possible love interest 1) Connel Violet(reasons She has army experience and knows what it's like to be under the foot of tyrants that don't care about you. Added baggage with him being goku's brother. A Kindred Spirt with each other. Main love interest. Also possible addition to the cast) Eighter(this can and will help him Truly understand gohan.)
I love it. I picked uupa because again someone from goku's travels, and someone who has been through war and loss at gohan's age and had turned aside fro ma path of violent revenge for one of peace, but wanting to be strong enough to protect his home.
@@kingced741 I love your idea too because it brigns everything full circle and shows raditz that even pacifists will fight if its to protect something.
@@singletona082 exactly, and shows the duty of the strong people on earth carry while peaceful is still a burden. As unlike Saiyan who are born strong all earthlings have to train for that strength.
Bulmas older sis, or Suno, for love interest! And for masters and Allies, maybe; Jaco, Dr.Gero, Popo(could take him in tha time room/ not chamber),,, let’s see, more ppl on earth,, 8’r, Ox King( maybe he could teach him a tech), him and Tien could find a new crane master, him and Krillin could find tha buhdda school. Well, sense theres no reason ta leave earth, no yardrat, no namek, no space adventures. But Jaco could prematurely introduce them to tha GP
Could your next What If be What If The Frieza Force we’re revived when the Z Fighters wished the dead back as it would be interesting to see the reactions of characters like Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, The Ginyu Force and others reactions to Frieza being killed by Goku
Sucks Vegeta died, but any story that redeems Raditz is more than enough to fill the void the Prince left lol. Also i'm going to guess he met a women, maybe Launch? Or we full throttle going to replace Vegeta and it's Bulma?
Goku, with Raditz and his two best buds, training with King Kai is cool and the weights were cool to see again. Tien's sacrifice against Vegeta was badass, and Piccolo finishing off the barely conscious Prince is such an in-character cold move. I wonder what you will do with Piccolo, since Goku is now far stronger than when they last met and has a new transformation. He might try to train as much as he can, but that can't be it and you may have another idea. As for Raditz, there are many people he can meet. I'd list some, but honestly some have said it far better than I could've. With Frieza out of the way, you still have Cold out there and the upcoming Android threat. I can't wait to see how the future unfolds and who gets to be the messenger, if time travel even is involved.
Both will be interesting opponents! It could be argued that Cold was defeated in Canon while in a surpressed form; so the full power King might be trouble. And Gero won't have his "what the fuck is Namek" moment since all the fights happen on Earth.
@@sheridanroad2001 Oh shit, the Cyborgs and Androids (with the data of the Frieza fight) are gonna be BIG trouble and I don't even wanna think about Cell.
@@leisurelyindex That depends. The Cell with DNA from the Ginyu force will still be an embryo in this timeline. While Canon Cell is future Trunk's Multiverse timeline. But absorbing significantly stronger Androids will still make for a massively powerful Cell!
@@sheridanroad2001 I was thinking about the Cell that comes from the other timeline. Yeah, he's gonna be even more of a threat with the more busted 17 and 18. Present Cell could be destroyed just like in canon, or something happens with him later on.
Can I ask how you are going to handle Cell? Will Ginyu and Guldo's DNA and thus special abilities be added to the monster? Or will we get the Multiverse constant 'future' Cell making his time trip?
Yo MA , I love your storytelling, now you have a new subscriber! Here's a little story I would love to hear somebody say. What if Goku somehow some way ended up with vados and they had a child. Put that in your brain and try to make a good DBZ series out of it
Nice so everybody did King Kai training to prepare for Frieza and his Forces. I mean it makes sense that Vegeta does dies here Tien and Piccolo wouldn't care about Vegeta and won't sparing him. Oh boy I just realized Dr. Gero knows SSJ this could be big problem here. 😬 Hm? 🤔 My guess is Raditz meets Launch on his travels. Finally still personally hoping for Gohan to be involved in Android Saga especially if Future Gohan shows up to deliver the warning about the Androids. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part.
Hahaha I am a Vegeta fan but I see why you killed him off the way you did. Can't wait for the picolo saga maybe he uses Dr gero for his own gains to combat super sayian. Also I think it would be cool to work their tails back into the story but that just me haha
I'm enjoying this story. I kinda like how we're essentially skipping the Namek arc entirely and that our favorite Z-fighters are getting some love. I have one question though, and I don't think I'm the only one, why don't the Z-fighters know Kaioken? They all trained with King Kai, so it doesn't make sense why they don't know it. If anything, since they can't use the spirit bomb, they should be able to use it at a higher multiplication, although that's probably wishful thinking on my part. This is your story though, so the final decision is yours, but I think it will make the story better if our favorite humans learn the kaioken. That said, I still enjoy this series and I'm interested to see where you will go with it.
Because they didn’t learn kaioken in canon even though tien and chatzu were on king Kai’s planet for 8 months and never once used it Yamcha was there for 4 months and never used it.
@@MangaAdventures Well, you can make them learn it in your story. You don't need to follow everything in the canon. It just makes the most logical sense for the Z-warriors to learn the kaioken. I mean if Raditz is taking the time to learn it along with Goku, why wouldn't the humans? Ultimately, this is your story and that choice is yours. I still enjoy your stories and will respect your writing choices.
I love the vids man. I honestly don't care for veget. I'm loving that raditz has a role because he was wasted potential. If you ever do a new series. Can you make what if goku was smart or what if goku wishes for his family like gine, bardock, and maybe raditz?
May I suggest “What if Raditz got amnesia after the special beam cannon?”
I’m thinking Raditz would survive the mankankosapo but the bloodloss and physical trauma would cause amnesia like in that budokai what if.
From there, Raditz would fight alongside our heroes against the Saiyans, dying in the fight afterwards.
Raditz would regain his memories while dying and make Goku promise to avenge him and defeat Frieza as a result.
Raditz would then be revived and become a part of the main cast afterwards, though that’s just how I’d imagine it.
Love this idea man!
Thank you 😸
What if krillin, bulma, and Gohan Landes on planet cereal instead of false namek during the filler due to the radar picking up cereals dragonballs? Maybe granolah would be bulmas love interest instead,or granolah and monaito joining them to namek? Thus goku discovering about bardock and gine much earlier?
Cannot wait for part three
Liked this one a lot. Tien beating Vegeta in a close fight, and Krillin with Yamcha bodying the Ginyu Force were pretty epic scenes. Also cool to see Raditz get the Kaioken as well as Goku. Though I'm not too sure why the Humans didn't get Kaioken if they saw Goku getting it, and the power it gave him. Maybe during the training for the Androids they can go back and learn the power, wanting to get any way to keep up with super saiyan levels of opponents and just a general wish to not die and protect the earth. Just an idea. Like a kaioken x20 - 30 Yamcha holding off 19 and 20 until the others get there. An idea I've had for awhile is Tien combining his tri beam (and neo tri beam) with the spirit bomb. That'd be sick.
My own guess for who Raditz meets is someone like Upa or Eighter. I feel Eighter makes the most sense, being an Android made for killing who hates fighting.
What If Request. (I can't remember if you have already done some of these)
What if Gohan drank the Ultra Divine Water before or after entering the Time Chamber with Goku.
What if Goku was the first "evolved" Saiyan. (like the Universe 6 Saiyan's who are born without a tail and have more potential)
What if Kami regained his youth when King Piccolo did.
What if Elder Guru fused with Kami before he died.
What if the Super Saiyan God ritual was permanent. (Goku becomes a actual God thereby extending his life expectancy by millions of years, he gets Super Saiyan Rosè instead of Super Saiyan Blue and he is unable to enter the T.o.P)
What if Beerus (& Whis) raised Cooler.
You have great ideas
1) Based on Z Retcons, the Ultimate Divine Water basically gave kid Goku a Zenkai boost. So Gohan would enter the Time Chamber stronger and should acquire Super Saiyan sooner.
2) Canonically Trunk and Goten were born without tails (due to author's forgetfulness), so they were 'evolved' Saiyans.
3) Honestly Kami should have gotten his youth back from that wish. Unless Shenron read King Piccolo's intent to not share with his other half.
4) Would probably get this current What If, starting in the Android Saga instead of against Raditz.
5) No clue lol
This is great so far! I love that you made the z fighters relevant. They deserve more love in these what ifs :')
This was another banger video, I like how you're making Raditz much different personality wise from Vegeta, a more mature character who's willing to see the flaws in Saiyan mindsets. I mean he is the son of Gine and Bardock and the brother of Goku, it only makes sense.
Woops meant Vegeta not Goku lol 😅
I think it's possible for Raditz to have met Fortune Teller Baba at some point during his journey. Maybe he can go back to see if she knows anything about the super saiyan transformation, or recieve a fortune that guides him in the right direction.
Ooooh, who did Raditz meet?
He could have met a lot of people… but most of which, nobody cares about.
So it’s likely out of the story relevant and fan-remembered characters from OG Dragonball (and the Jaco Manga)…
Tights. Tights has experience with aliens, so is probably the best suited for teaching Raditz, especially with her own rebellious streak, breaking away from Capsule Corp living and being an Idols public double and becoming a Sci-Fi author. She’s not too peaceful to annoy him outright, and with her fiery demeanor, she’s probably the best suited to getting through to him.
Nam is a great guy, but I feel that would reinforce Raditz’s current mindset that he’s trying to overcome.
Eighter/Suno would be magnificent, anything that makes these two relevant is always appreciated, but they might be too much like Gohan to be able to help, or they could be able to contextualize things exactly so that Raditz can understand. Eighter got Goku to kind of understand pacifism, so why not Raditz?
Launch is… not helpful, but the potential peer pressure and bullying from zealous MasakoX fans could force this.
I like Colonel Violet, but I think she’d be just as not-helpful as Launch.
Mercs and thieves aren’t the type to go to when you’re trying to learn about why people might want a contented peaceful life, though they are useful for trying to get someone to accept that people can do whatever they want with their lives. So I guess Launch and Violet have that going for them.
Hasky is in the same boat as the last two. But she’s cool, and I like her.
Bulma is very similar to her elder sister, though she’s not got most of the advantages for the story as her sister.
Piccolo is probably the most likely to end up as Raditz’s best friend, unless the Goku rivalry and seriousness of Big Green squashes that. Also he’s not helpful, being a slave to his fathers will could potentially get Raditz to see the cruelty in that, but the issue isn’t the cruelty, Raditz is just accepting that it’s the way of things, you born strong, you fight, that’s it, the strong rule and the weak suffer. Though that would be a different story. This is “who is Raditz learning about earth from” not “who is he having a blast of a time with”.
Loads of other options I haven’t gone over, but I can’t really think of any more right now.
You've put much more thought into this than I did, and I loved reading this. I can't wait to see what Manga does with this or what he has planned.
@@leisurelyindex Thanks. I did a lot of thinking about the options that people kept bringing up in the comments, and added Haski (the thief from the amusement park episode during the Red Ribbon arc.)
What if during the fight between hit and goku on earth, instead of gokus Kamehameha shattering his time skip, it malfunctions and sends hit back in time and he meets kid goku and trains him in timeskip? With hit as gokus master he could learn alot. Imagine a timeskip Kamehameha
Training with King Kai is great training but having on the weights from the buu saga was an excellent touch if you ask, if your already use to the high gravity, use weights to make yourself heavier in those conditions to get the best effect for that training, Vegeta losing to the Tien makes sense since the Tri-beam is a strong attack that even had Semi-perfect cell held down so yeah, vegeta's death makes sense in this one, I also love the fact that you make Krillin be able to take out most of the Ginyu force on his own and the is real respect for the humans, though for Raditz, I don't know who he met in the world, but I only have two guesses, one Eighter, so he can understand Gohan a bit more, and two Launch, as I think is a possible love interest, love the video Manga Adventures, can't wait for the next part.
Thanks for not destroying me over the vegeta decision. I’m glad you enjoyed this part and can’t wait to see what you think of part 3
@@MangaAdventures no problem, like I said, TIen's tri-beam is stronger than most people think since it held back semi perfect cell, so again, Vegeta losing makes sense, especially since Tien and Vegeta were mostly equal in the fight and I can't wait for the third part and to see Raditz's experiences with the earth people.
@@MangaAdventures honestly I'm surprised you brought it down to nearly suicidal Kikoho use.
At this point in the story Tenshinhan massively outskills Vegeta, he's just a brawler with a lot of power for the saga.
@@MangaAdventures What If Manga Adventure was in Dragon Ball
Raditz smashing Launch!!
Tien having a W against Vegeta put a smile on my face
It's definitely interesting seeing Radditz pick up Vegeta's slot in the story.
I'm just sad seeing the humans training on Kaio-sama's planet and not learning Kaioken.
Quite possibly the biggest narrative mistake Toriyama ever made, it's great when what-ifs correct that.
Agreed. I hope they learn it in the next chapter.
I've watched this video 3x. I feel like Ive made my contribution to its success. Now lets see part 3!
All in all, a pretty good storyline so far. This falls in line with what all of these characters would most likely do in these situations in my own opinion. Piccolo due to not having the chance to train Gohan will take longer to become a good person, which is something I appreciate more because I felt as if the original story had him changing too quickly, retconning his roots in a way from Namekians being revealed. Vegeta dying to Tien is so poetic, kinda sucks but it really is the only logical step here. It sort of does feel like Frieza's arc got sped up a lot, but that was inevitable since they're all stronger.
In the future, I have recommendations for the path Raditz takes. For one, he could probably meet Eighter on his own, and it would be very intriguing to him that a cyborg is actually such a pure being. And if you're planning to make Raditz have a significant other, I see no way around it: bring back Launch (yea Ik this is overdone but Idc). The reason she wasn't kept is because Toriyama forgot about her, likely due to the lack of her being useful within the story. I also think Bulma doesn't blend with Raditz's personality nearly as much, which would lead to the same downfall as Yamcha.
That's great and Raditz should meet bulma
I'd make an argument that the 10x Gravity would be just as effective.
when Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks did Gravity training they were heavily effective the first time. However if you compare it to when Goku experianced 10x Earth's Gravity, they strugled just as if not more so. This can be countered by Kid Trunks though, who turned Super Saiyan and was just fine. But to counter that counter, maybe Super Saiyan's power increase can counter the affects of gravity?
Im not saying the what-if is wrong, but it's some nice food for thought.
An interesting argument but my counter to that is the z fighters who came to king Kai’s planet after the saiyan saga seemed just fine. Also kid trunks was training in 150xs gravity not 10
@@MangaAdventures I should re-word this, I messed that up re-writting it.
Vegeta trained in Gravity 30x greater then Goku did. Vegeta was much more then 30x a power level of 500 (give or take death zenkai's but 500 is close enough and easier to count), but Vegeta struggled just as if not more so then Goku did in 10x.
When comparing to Goku's 100x training, he was also more then 3x powerful then that, but (based from what I remember) was struggling more then Goku was. We can also see this with Yamcha, but we don't know how strong he was in comparison to Goku (i'd say 30x isn't too much of a stretch, but I cant confirm that).
Trunks pushes that point further. if he's giving 18 concern as a Super Saiyan, he's deffinently more then 15x early Saiyan Saga Goku, but struggles much more. Head-cannon could point this to his child body, but that is head cannon.
So the TLDR; Gravity doesn't seem to affect fighters through linier numbers. Because of this, I think that them being stronger wouldn't affect their initial training benefits from 10x gravity. However Gravity specifics in Dragon Ball aren't too touched upon, so the answer could go either way. And as a what-if writer myself, I think we can both agree that at times it's okay to bend rules just a weeeeeeeeee-bit. It's just as you said, an interesting argument I thought I'd mention. I guess you really do read every comment!
@@michaelsong3733 Gravity is definitely weird in dragon and I’m sure akira himself doesn’t know how it works. It’s something that can interrupted many ways
17:55 Frieza is a menace
I would really like another part.
As I just finished watching all of Dragon Ball.
I really appreciate your effort
I love it when radditz gets a shot in these what ifs
Last two episodes were great. On your request for ideas: What if Goku married Arale?
17:59 that Freeza comment made me wheeze, great joke.
Can't wait for the next part, cell is going to be insane with the Ginyu force being on earth
Super fast turnaround, King! I love this scenario.
Part 1, was a great start, part 2, is awesome, definitely looking forward to part 3, I want to see more.
What if Goku killed Perfect Cell during Cell Games?
That Kamahehameha in the face, actually destroyed that "nucleus" in Cell's body.
In this situation Tien would have the advantage over Vegeta because he’s always training and refining his skills whereas Vegeta had very little to no training outside his combat missions in which it’s very likely that he never found anyone to match his power.
This story is dope and I look forward to seeing a part 3. Raditz most likely met Bulma on his journey btw
This is the dragon ball story we all deserve I’m a vegeta fanboy but I feel like it alway should been raditz and goku 2 brothers that once killed eachother working together to defend the universe 🔥🔥🔥
I just came across this channel yesterday but it's my shit this guy is a good storyteller should have way more subscribers
I love this what if
20:42 met lunch ez
I think you can do something about these Ideas I had...
What if Goku met a Yardratian on his Journey or before he went on snake way.
What if Goku absorbed the dragon balls when he was young (After Defeating King Piccolo, the dragon balls needed a new vessel since the Dragon statue was broken) and became its new living Guardian. (This is in a sense similar to how Goku was the new Guardian at the end of GT, but he is alive, there is now more importance in his life and that he must also understand the world to better suit his status as it's secret protector.)
Damn bro another great what-if. I really like this one so far. Hope you continue fleshing this story.
I got a what if idea.
It's what if shin trained to be a match for Buu and the Saiyans found the joy of training
What if Goku had the Sharingan, so I’m this what if, there will be a certain class of sayains that had a mutation that allowed them to have these red eyes which burdock would be a descendant of this class, with his different biology from the other sayains, he could you different fire type attacks and when the sharingan is activated, it gives him precognition and all the abilities the sharingan has including the Susanoo and etc when he unlocks the different stages of it when a close friend of his dies. And when radios and goku is born, they will have the fire powers and etc and also, when they awaken the MS, they will have their own abilities, and when they have children, they will also have the sharingan and etc. Also for the royal class sayains, they will also have a mutation allowing them to have lightning powers and the byakugan which vegeta would have, this is my What If idea.
Another excellent video, Manga. You're my hero
I’m glad you enjoyed it bro keep up the good work on your end as well!
11:20
You mean Kame house? Unlees Kami has a mail box now somewhere
So, this is a random idea I just had and haven't really seen explored, at least not how I think it should be.
What if humans had a higher potential? Similar to other species that get transformations, magic, or what have you. Not a change in race, just what if humans were able to get as strong as saiyans or even namekians and maybe had some special transformation of their own?
Would be cool if he met Suno who could have funnily enough mistaken him for goku for a second being brothers and all 🤔
They should bring Nappa and Vegeta back in the android saga for help against cell because Raditz is smart and numbers are always good.
( wouldn't unlock there potential but would have them train in the time chamber )
Cant wait for part 3 rlly enjoyed the first 2
Next part ASAP please! This is an amazing story
OOOOHH! I just came up with a new potential what-if! What if the Z-warriors were the MC's. Now hear me out. We pass through the DBZ story proper, but with the Humans (ie Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, and Chiaotzu) as the main characters. Saiyains are a major draw and are the main reason DBZ is the way it is. But what if the humans had their own transformation? Not just kaioken or Roshi's buff form, but their own personal transformation? OR, what if the story is all about how they keep up with saiyans and the ways they do so? Maybe they learn how to better utilize their ki since they will naturally have smaller portions of it than the saiyans. What if this lack of ki becomes their greatest strength because they make up for it with masterful control? Like being able to reabsorb their own ki attacks or concentrating all their ki into smaller points in their fists and feet, thus making them fight more like snipers compared to the saiyans who fight more like tanks?
It is a bit out there, but I always loved the Z-warriors and I always wanted to see them match the saiyans in power. Go with it or don't, I still enjoy your content.
I’d say he met Eighter & Suno.
Piccolo feels like he’s kinda being wasted though. How’s he supposed to be keeping up with the others at this rate?
I'm a little late unfortunately, but I'm here now and praise you for the great work! Looking forward to part 3 my man.
You have a big fan schofield hawaii
Yay part 2 🎉 Your power levels your what if 💪🏿
0:12 I want more dad- I mean yeah sure😅
First off: way to give Tien his moment in the sun. Yea losing Vegeta sucks, but it make sense in this story especially given the diffrencei nphilosophy (vegeta's born strong mindset vs tien's train to gain mindset.) It makes sense for Vegeta to fall here as there is no reason for an alliance.
Second: As for Raditz? Have him visit Uupa. Y'know that little kid Goku met? He'd be all grown by now. Someone who by earth standards is very strong by now. Yet enjoys a life of peace. Someone who's seen war and thinks of growing strong as largely a means to ensure peace lasts as opposed to going out to look for fights, or training for the sake of 'fun.'
Also, for the love of Masako. Have him run into launch. Please?
You really have good ideas too
That was quite early for you!
Proving you wrong 6 uploads in a row now
Ok, you beat me.
What if Goku was a lssj I know it's done a lot but I would love to see your take on it
This was nice. I’m curious about the people Raditz met
What happened to Frieza is just hilariously accurate.
Where is part 3 can u plz make this a full series
Please continue this series, soo dang good
i'm a vegeta fan and i'm okay with him effectively being replaced by Raditz.
Cant wait for the next one
I like see Raditz be equal to his brother I'm looking forward to it, Goku and his brother should train together a lot more to a point Goku and his brother Raditz both train Gohan and Goten together. That be cool to see. plus I would like to see Goku, Raditz, Gohan, Goten, all 4 of them get the Potential Unleashed Form by Elder Kai together as the Son Goku Mystic Family. And maybe see Goku and Raditz combined the Mystic Potential Unleashed Form with there transformations Mystic SS1, Mystic SS2, Mystic SS3, and so on. Same with Gohan and Goten. Please have Goku, Raditz, Gohan and Goten all 4 train on Supreme Kai's Planet and Beerus's Planet. Anything is possible for a what if.
Always good what ifs
I Think Raditz meet Nam(reason he fits the Saiyan mold naturally stronger then his kinsmen so that strength came with responsibilities. I.e protecting and leading his village. I'm pretty sure that man has a 15,000 powerlevel sense he felt all those changes in energy.)
Tights(Bulma's sister, possible love interest 1)
Connel Violet(reasons She has army experience and knows what it's like to be under the foot of tyrants that don't care about you. Added baggage with him being goku's brother. A Kindred Spirt with each other. Main love interest. Also possible addition to the cast)
Eighter(this can and will help him Truly understand gohan.)
I love it. I picked uupa because again someone from goku's travels, and someone who has been through war and loss at gohan's age and had turned aside fro ma path of violent revenge for one of peace, but wanting to be strong enough to protect his home.
@@singletona082 oh thats a really good one
@@kingced741 I love your idea too because it brigns everything full circle and shows raditz that even pacifists will fight if its to protect something.
@@singletona082 exactly, and shows the duty of the strong people on earth carry while peaceful is still a burden. As unlike Saiyan who are born strong all earthlings have to train for that strength.
Pls bring back what if majuub was the main character
Launch? I know it's already been done, but still!
cant wait for more Kami Unlock Potential Amazing story Whatiffery On Point All The Way
This is pretty fricken fire!!!! 🔥
What if Kid Gohan(Namek Saga) unlocked his own Ikari State during his fight against Frieza?
Part 3 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Watch Raditz get with Bulma in this what if.
Yooooo Ik I’m late Brody💯 but thanks for publishin for us🔥🔥🔥
👍🏿🤎💪🏿
Bulmas older sis, or Suno, for love interest! And for masters and Allies, maybe; Jaco, Dr.Gero, Popo(could take him in tha time room/ not chamber),,, let’s see, more ppl on earth,, 8’r, Ox King( maybe he could teach him a tech), him and Tien could find a new crane master, him and Krillin could find tha buhdda school. Well, sense theres no reason ta leave earth, no yardrat, no namek, no space adventures. But Jaco could prematurely introduce them to tha GP
one of the best youtubers in the game
I’m just trying to get like king
I liked it love the direction it's going
Oh oh oh Radits and tights maybe
I love this series so much l would really appreciate it if u would do what if Broly or turtles was in Vegeta's squad
Could your next What If be What If The Frieza Force we’re revived when the Z Fighters wished the dead back as it would be interesting to see the reactions of characters like Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, The Ginyu Force and others reactions to Frieza being killed by Goku
Sucks Vegeta died, but any story that redeems Raditz is more than enough to fill the void the Prince left lol. Also i'm going to guess he met a women, maybe Launch? Or we full throttle going to replace Vegeta and it's Bulma?
Excuse me why isn’t part 3 out yet it’s been ages since you released part 2
ong. Wheres part 10, its been a long 4 minutes since part 2
You guys are the reason this channel will never die 😂
Bruh lol
fr
Good story #Kamiunlockpotentialpart3#
What if Goku got Ikari. Probably when he fights King Piccolo.
550 likes in 4 hours… we need a part 3
I'd like it if radizs just met a random human
Goku, with Raditz and his two best buds, training with King Kai is cool and the weights were cool to see again.
Tien's sacrifice against Vegeta was badass, and Piccolo finishing off the barely conscious Prince is such an in-character cold move. I wonder what you will do with Piccolo, since Goku is now far stronger than when they last met and has a new transformation. He might try to train as much as he can, but that can't be it and you may have another idea.
As for Raditz, there are many people he can meet. I'd list some, but honestly some have said it far better than I could've.
With Frieza out of the way, you still have Cold out there and the upcoming Android threat. I can't wait to see how the future unfolds and who gets to be the messenger, if time travel even is involved.
Both will be interesting opponents!
It could be argued that Cold was defeated in Canon while in a surpressed form; so the full power King might be trouble.
And Gero won't have his "what the fuck is Namek" moment since all the fights happen on Earth.
@@sheridanroad2001 Oh shit, the Cyborgs and Androids (with the data of the Frieza fight) are gonna be BIG trouble and I don't even wanna think about Cell.
@@leisurelyindex That depends. The Cell with DNA from the Ginyu force will still be an embryo in this timeline.
While Canon Cell is future Trunk's Multiverse timeline.
But absorbing significantly stronger Androids will still make for a massively powerful Cell!
@@sheridanroad2001 I was thinking about the Cell that comes from the other timeline. Yeah, he's gonna be even more of a threat with the more busted 17 and 18.
Present Cell could be destroyed just like in canon, or something happens with him later on.
@@sheridanroad2001 Toriyama stated that he was in his full power form. Also that mecha Freiza was equally as strong as him.
Can I ask how you are going to handle Cell?
Will Ginyu and Guldo's DNA and thus special abilities be added to the monster?
Or will we get the Multiverse constant 'future' Cell making his time trip?
Yo MA , I love your storytelling, now you have a new subscriber! Here's a little story I would love to hear somebody say. What if Goku somehow some way ended up with vados and they had a child. Put that in your brain and try to make a good DBZ series out of it
Can you do a what if Goten was born with angel assents
Excellent, let see how it goes.
What if radits become close friends with lapis and lazuli. Before Gero abducts them
We should do what if Frieza and cooler was born good?
Edit we should keep king cold evil so planet vegeta still gets dusted.
Somehow i never got the notification forbpar 1, so imma have to peep that and come back.
AINT NO WAY YOU MADE YAMCHA ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING
Raditz met Launch. How could he not be attracted to the blond fireball/blue saint?
Nice so everybody did King Kai training to prepare for Frieza and his Forces. I mean it makes sense that Vegeta does dies here Tien and Piccolo wouldn't care about Vegeta and won't sparing him. Oh boy I just realized Dr. Gero knows SSJ this could be big problem here. 😬 Hm? 🤔 My guess is Raditz meets Launch on his travels. Finally still personally hoping for Gohan to be involved in Android Saga especially if Future Gohan shows up to deliver the warning about the Androids. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part.
Keep this going champ 🏆
Part 3 plz asap
I absolutely don't get why Krillin and yamcha didn't get Kaioken, they definitely should have, and they would be powerful enough to handle it.
Hahaha I am a Vegeta fan but I see why you killed him off the way you did. Can't wait for the picolo saga maybe he uses Dr gero for his own gains to combat super sayian. Also I think it would be cool to work their tails back into the story but that just me haha
I Iove your what ifs
What if goku was born with hakaishin energy?
I'm enjoying this story. I kinda like how we're essentially skipping the Namek arc entirely and that our favorite Z-fighters are getting some love. I have one question though, and I don't think I'm the only one, why don't the Z-fighters know Kaioken? They all trained with King Kai, so it doesn't make sense why they don't know it. If anything, since they can't use the spirit bomb, they should be able to use it at a higher multiplication, although that's probably wishful thinking on my part.
This is your story though, so the final decision is yours, but I think it will make the story better if our favorite humans learn the kaioken. That said, I still enjoy this series and I'm interested to see where you will go with it.
Because they didn’t learn kaioken in canon even though tien and chatzu were on king Kai’s planet for 8 months and never once used it Yamcha was there for 4 months and never used it.
@@MangaAdventures Well, you can make them learn it in your story. You don't need to follow everything in the canon. It just makes the most logical sense for the Z-warriors to learn the kaioken. I mean if Raditz is taking the time to learn it along with Goku, why wouldn't the humans?
Ultimately, this is your story and that choice is yours. I still enjoy your stories and will respect your writing choices.
I love the vids man. I honestly don't care for veget. I'm loving that raditz has a role because he was wasted potential. If you ever do a new series. Can you make what if goku was smart or what if goku wishes for his family like gine, bardock, and maybe raditz?
long shot but I think raditz either met bulma sister or eighter and suno
What if every Dragon Ball movie with Cannon that a challenge
raditz meet a certain red head named suno