WOAH, Stavn and jabbi ACTUALLY going to Astralis??
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the truth always prevails. there's still more to know, lets see what happens. also the deal is not done, but looks like "close to" fwiw - Ігри
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hope you or ceadral winning this (i give you the vote ofc, but think ceadral wiith 150k vierwers on a co - stream, might be the favorite)
esports awards are so dumb lol. i heard on talking counter just then that everyone invited has to pay for everything INCLUDING a seat at a table in the event. and the fact xtqzzz was nominated says how much they know about esports. (hes a great coach but done nothing in the past year)
@@liam3104 truly what can you realistically expect from any sort of "academy award show" at this point lol
If stabbi were having nervous difficulties with cadian who stacked 2 roles and actively pointed most/all criticism towards himself I don't see how they're expecting better results under blameF and Astralis (both haven't won an actual event in 3 years). Just on the fact they gave up their foothold in Heroic to join experimental Astralis that can drop them just as fast as they joined is wild to me.
I wonder if they are in a black list for orgs because of their contracts shenanigans
Gotta remember astralis's name and also the salaries that players get. At heroic you make what is a pretty high end job, but in astralis you make 3x that
While true, as Richard Lewis stated the motive for the move could've been because it is just Astralis. In Denmark, that org is so wildly popular and they will be thrust into local stardom, thus becoming a celebrity. So, a clout move if you will
device and blameF are both better than any player in Heroic ever was
@@Askemanden Ok are they playing the in Royal Arena? Sit down
Ngl if Buzz gets cut I feel bad man.
pun intended?
*Staehr
Wish stabbi nothing but bad luck for the future
back stabbi, surprise surprise
Cadian cuck 😂
Bro I'm gonna be calling him stabbi from now on
Gotta love the world we live in. What’s the saying? The truth always prevails.
Bro Jabbi is 20 years old. He is very young and new to the scene. It is true that this move was somewhat scummy (although we don’t now the entirety of the story and it seems like the other members of heroic were in favor of kicking Cadian aswell) you should not blame it all onto Jabbi (when a multitude of other people were involved). We do not even know if they did it because they wanted to harm heroic or if Astralis gave them an offer which they just couldn‘t resist.
Despise Stavn and Jabbi. Cadian BUILT their careers. Think about this insane stat, there's only ONE player with consistent top 20 hltv ratings in hltv (to my knowledge) theres NO star awper in the team and thru SHEER team work alone heroic became a powerhouse. They seriously think they will get any of that in astralis with blamef as igl? I think astralis will have a even BIGGER downfall than they are already in. Of course theres different sides to a story but the fact stavn and jabbi after 1 month has released no official statement kind of tells me they are guilty. If they are Innocent they should've released a statement ASAP or even just hint at one but complete silence.
i think blameF still has a LOT of potential as an IGL, what he did with complexity was very impressive. He hasnt had a consisent roster with players that blend well with his style since, and losing Konfig was one of the worst blows. I think with younger talents like jabbi on his roster blameF will have a proper chance to prove himself this time.
You seem like you have not seen Astralis play with BlameF as IGL? Man is on a 1.30 rating and actually calling amazing T-sides in almost any game. This team is instantly more talented than Heroic ever was.
astralis havent won anything besides cct with blame, thats quite a statement
@@mortennielsen519 0 grand finals, 0 semi finals, 0 trophies tier 1 or online. not even in the list of opening kills in 2023 with a 1.30 rating (figure that one out yourself plenty of MM mates doing that with 30+ kills 0 impact Somehow hooxi karrigan and snappi is on the list but he isnt). 0 igling style, seriously tell me what kind of style does blamef igl in? Is he agressive like snappi with spawn based calls? Or more methodical letting players work the map like karrigan? He easily is the BIGGEST baiter in cs right now, if you just look at his rating 2.0 number, hes successfully fooled you. An igl having a 1.30 rating is a MASSIVE red flag because if hes fragging out and his team is not, then hes calling for himself not his team. And cs is a team based game, and thats why the igl is not the best player in the team hes the worst, but he provides an integral part which other players cant
@@Alex-wn8qh Col was 3 years ago. Blamef is an igl with a 1.30 rating. Thats a huge red flag. why is he fragging out like this while his team is not even close? Check the opening kills stats, Lots of players are there, hooxi snappi karrigan, BUT blamef isnt. He should be in the top 5 with ratings like that. Why isnt he in there? Ropz is there, hell even Perfecto is on the list and hes a support player. It means blamef is impactless, he saves his kd, baits his team gets free 0 impact frags, and inflates his stats and its been fooling people for so long. but results don't lie and astralis hasn't reached a grand final, a semi final , or won a trophy at all in 23 tier 1 or online.
Sure hope it's Staher and Borup leaving, not because I dislike them but look at buzz man he's so cool
Buzz has that coolness
RIP
Buzz is shit. Staehr at least has some potential. Buzz had a good round on Ancient, and everyone blew it up. Good that Buzz and baiter-Borup are being replaced haha
richard lewis heard another side to the story, basicially what stavn and jabbi said to heroic management was "we cant win with cadian", nothing about kicking him or they would leave etc and nothing about renewing contracts. then heroic kicks cadian and is like you are gonna re sign the contracts now right???
ah was that in his rostermania video i missed it
@@laundersYe he implied that maybe Stabbi thought Heroic would keep Cadian and kick the 2 of them so they could easily sign with Astralis
"Astralis is your really racist grandma who cooks good food" Perfect analogy lol
After this move I can't imagine many people cheering on this Astralis roster for anything other than Device, and i cant imagine he feels good about this either. What an unprofessional, unethical, unsportsmanlike move from Stavn and jabbi.
They will still have the Danish fans, because it's Astralis
Knowing how Astralis management and ownership acts I'm 90% sure that they masterminded this and Stavn and Jabbi, whilst not innocent, are far less to blame than what they will receive from the community.
Astralis is the epitome of those thing 😅
@@amypond5726 Eh, less to blame when they have full consent? I think they share completely equal blame. They might not be masterminds, but they're collaborators. Equal fault.
@@Scyborg832 What I mean is that the general community opinion going forward will likely be almost entirely focused on them and ignore the shady and scummy practices that Astralis always employ.
the grandma analogy was perfect, im happy for dev1ce at least. imagine they keep borup tho and the old heroic boys take over astralis
the amount of times astralis has screwed over heroic is honestly crazy.
I don't think it will work out for astral is in the long run tho. They were already pretty unliked everywhere except Denmark, and now they will be hated
I hope the socks are included in the awards ceremony fit
launders threatening to pull up to the function dressed like count dracula lmfao
Astralis straight up becoming villains again, this time not because they will be a four time major winning team but because the way the org operates
thoorin and kassad made a great point on their show. this is a 'superstar' lineup which is going to work horribly as they always do. look at cloud 9. you need a sjush who embraces bitch roles and has the years of experience to understand whats happening mid round with limited info. if 4-5 top fraggers was the meta then norbert wouldnt have won a major. these 4 superstars are NOT going to want to share the good roles and it will create chaos.
FAZE RAIN,ROPZ,BROKY,TWISTZZ MOUZ JIMP,FROZEN,XERTION,TORZI G2 NIKO,HUNTER,MONESY,JKS XD
They could have just said that they want to leave and have astralis but them out. Didn't have to do my boy cadian like that :(
"Astralis is your really racist grandma"
Lmfao!!
I find it odd that nobody is really comparing this to the Hunden situation. Like I guess it's just standard operating procedure now for Astralis to poach from Heroic under... questionable conditions?
3:28 Please say Buzz.... "in my opinion, they keep Buzz" yes Astralis era incoming
03:53 "taking a cs-ta"
0:40 me showing up to the release of a new launders vid.
Going by Denmark's support for Astralis, I think every Danish player wants to play for Astralis no matter how poor the team performs. IMO that's why stabbi are moving to Astralis.
I'll be honest, Im not gonna take moral advice from Mr. steal your girl staun. Regardless of what he wanted to insinuate with that tweet, there is no "prevailing truth" that paints him in a good way. I'm supposed to believe that the entire Heroic org publicly lied, Astralis had no rebuttal to that , Cadian didnt say a thing, stabbi either, all to make them two look bad? Why not tell the truth then and there instead of tweeting a nothing burger and going silent for almost a month?
By all means go get the bag in Astralis or whatever team you wanna play, but dont play pretend on social media for cookie points AND go for the bag. Heroic is the only reason these two are relevant, and Cadian supported both of them both inside and out of the server. I didnt have any respect to lose for him but the reddit "lost all respect" special feels fitting here
Astralis looks real good in theory. What even is Heroic after this? You try to extend out dupreeh's contract and maybe pick up Chr1zN and/or sirah since they performed decently on the online tourneys and then some random free agent? Like damn what a fall.
Gla1ve prob
@@jamieeddolls5605 that would be a good pick up! Feel like the negotiations would be a little awkward, "aye yo. You poached stabbi and stavn from us and all...but can we have Gla1ve from your bench?" lol
They will always be remembered as backstabbers
You're the best commentator. Period.
Wow thanks 🥲
I don't think i could ever understand why Jabbi and Stavn would do this if true, like it sounds like something they just wouldn't do.
At the end of the day I of course don't know them but wow this situation is crazy.
Really feel bad for Heroic because they're the ones losing 3 players.
I see Buzz staying, and if it is true that device picked him out... he will likely be the one to stay. Staehr and b0RUP have their moments, but they're not as nice as Buzz.
There is no way Heroic would sell to Astralis unless Nikolaj Nyholm sent some mafia goons to Heroic hq.
As an Astralis fan who has been following them since I started watching cs (2017) I may come off as a bad fan but it feels like Astralis constantly shoot themself in the foot with these pre-disclosed roster moves. Astralis will never reach it's peak again when it is in constant turmoil like this and not focused on winning above ruining other teams / changing rosters.
I have also been a fan since 2017 and i 100% agree with you. It's depressing to see Astralis dig themselves deeper and deeper.
Congrats stabn and stabbi
I only care about Heroic because of Xizt so I’m just sad that he has to deal with all this immature drama
If I was any org, after the shit they pulled on Heroic, I'm surprised anyone would pick them up.
Thank you Indian keemstar ❤
Astralis just got a whole lot worse with stabbi 🔥🔥
the hate is real. Jabbi and Stavn were backpacking Heroic for months
rate buzz highly but for the team structure i think staerh needs to be in the team. the xyp9x, the role filler, the rifle dropper etc etc. i always like to look at these roster changes and think about who is going to anchor B site mirage?? with buzz i don't know who does that, whereas i would trust staerh to do a solid job at it.
edit: vs mouz in CAC they use a mix of deve awping staerh and borup on b / short but it does seem to mostly be staerh.
True haven’t payed close enough attention I was thinking buzz got some good spots back after gla1ve left but maybe he’d go back to anchoring
Buzz take the Xyp role, BlameF takes Glaves device is device and Stavn and Jabbi have Dupreeh/Magisk roles
@dakota8381 out of buzz (for example purposes) stavn and jabbi plays ramp on nuke, inferno pit, mirage B and so on.
I'm sure buzz can do it but that feels like a waste on CT sides.
that's a clean suit
insane hat
wheres can i buy the hat
help
3:52 Taking a siesta? Or a CS-ta?
Australis is the new villain team
another day, another CS2 DRAMA ALERT
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Guys hold on we don't know the truth yet we gotta trust Stavn on this
gave it a like for the suit
Id vote for you but i already voted for my rat king caedrel but gl though lau. I enjoy your content very much also.
:( he seems great, thanks anyway though :D
got myself the shirt, cant wait 👏
u'll LOVE it, promise :)
👴this launders fella is my favorite colored commentator 👴
RIP b0reup and Staehr
Perfect! Karma....
Huge Heroic drama is crazy
- Moist critical, probably
Feels bad for heroic and cadian
Astralis now is the "guy who you really hate makes a good point".
The brownest and the best 💪💪💪
Stabbi ?
Does anyone know what cadian is up to with all this bs going on? I just want to see him awp again
Most likely joining liquid
hoping for stabbi and jaun to fail 🙏
The best for both teams would be to include Staehr in the trade for Stavn and Jabbi.
well whatever respect I had left for Astralis is gone, garbage, here's to bad luck to both backstabbin and jabbage
...and then Dupreeh resigns with Astralis. Device, BlameF, Jabbi, Stavn and Dupreeh. Yeah that's a potent lineup.
dupreeh would never
@@Spetsnazty I don’t see why he wouldn’t though.
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Big eth
Astralis use to my favorite team, not so sure anymore. I mean I guess theres still device and blamef
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@@launders No, I'm just super hyped for this new Astralis roster, but I'm only a bit sorry for b0RUP and Staehr, because they'll probably be terrible at BLAST knowing they're out.
@@stamend28 true that is tough
Biggest mistake from Astralis was to not get sjuush
I still eant Staehr to stay 😢 he has the most unlocked potential.
I agree staehr can make nasty plays
Is cs Esports ever going to get to a place where the line up wil be 7 people, or just more than 5 instead of 5 people. Where each team will permanently have more then 1 sub, like you get in other sports to use to replace a tired player, or something like that.
Stabbi
What if Cadian had asked to replace either Stavn or Jabbi but they stuck together and forced Heroic to let go of Cadian. Heroic too long to pick a side and the rest.
I prefer staehr over buzz, but we'll see. I'm gonna be very happy for dev1ce
A duo called stabbi lol.
Astralis are BACK
device
Stavn
Jabbi
b0rup
Blame
Stabbi in Astralis 😂
The time has come for the Indian Keemstar to bootstrap a real Indian CS team, bring the region to the world stage and remove the stains of past accusations.
It wasn't an accusation, he got caught his hand in the bag, but yeah Indian cs took a hit that day
He’s not Indian man
@@DetectiveMikeHunt. Indian descent*
Astralis is so smart with this. A dedicated AWPer in a meta that has very little awping, no igl in a meta dominated by strong igls, and signing two people who conspired to break up their previous, much more successful team. Meanwhile CadiaN could probably pick five random danish players and build a top 10 team in a year.
Really? y'all be dick sucking so hard. It took Cadian YEARS to find this team you think hes just gonna up and find players to replace Stavn and Jabbi
No igl ??
I hope heroic will keep stabbi on bench so they will miss Copenhagen major
don't see this team working out tbh, device and jabbi will probably continue being very good but other than that its not looking too hot so im not excited
Wouldn't it make more sense, rolewise and talentwise, for Astralis to target stavn and sjuush, rather than jabbi?
To me sjuush is one of the best in the world in his role, while jabbi is decent is his role, but not near the best in the world.
I think they keep staehr because he is better
I genuinely want to know whats behind this, but if its astralis being a rat they are with things they been doing. I genuinely hope they dont win anything
Tbh im kinda impressed by their move more than anything. Cold calculated business and setting yourself up for a competitive advantage before they even become competitors.
Not without its MASSIVE consequence. They have effectively destroyed their reputation. Outside of astralis reaching their 2018 levels again, stavn and jabbi have turned into litteral villians of cs. They will probably get blacklisted from cs if they wanna switch teams. I mean which org especially a tier 1 org would be dumb enough to get two slightly above average players in risk of them quitting anytime they feel like? Also Astralis itself is a crap org with a crap team (minus device). Theres no igl, no proper support player, no identity in that team, only baitf and his non ability to igl.
@@Frogesh time will tell. Right now those are only if but and maybes.
man, just when i was finally enjoying this astralis lineup this shit happens lol. good riddance stabbinho and stabn lol
Astralis are going to be hated now even though they have dev1ce
what happens when you have immature people in CS, definition of clowns
wrong 2 players imo, teses and sjuush would have been perfect. this roster will be a waste of time just like the g2 super team, but even that team was top5 in the world and had a high peak, i don't expect the same from astralis
Wow Lau you're brown? Never noticed
I nearly ended racism but I spilled the beans
L for Astralis
The stabbi duo stabbing their way to astralis. Also gl my boy, borup 😢
First :o
They wont achieve anything anyway with player like BlameF who make whole team very easy to read.
One theory is that Stabbi wanted Cadian gone hoping that Heroic would say no you two can leave & then Cadian went fuck this i am off & Stabbi were like oh fuck we didn't think this was going to happen & now shit has hit the fan because they did not think Heroic were going to let Cadian go!
That's stupid
Really no one can cheer for the rats in Astralis now, org has always been like this regarding new players. Prob only salty silver danes that likes that org nowadays.
I really fucking hope that Device leaves this shit org, because no one can dislike that guy after what his been through.
Jabbi and Stavn are getting too much hate. We have no idea what their side of the story is. There is literally 0 information to go off of so I don’t think it’s fair to call them snakes
Spanish people arent "coloured" bro. NA moment
No one says “coloured” since 1960. I was debating if he was middle eastern or not and maybe spanished
3:31 device himself said buzz and blamef are like family to him so theres no way they arent keeping buzz
and about buzz being "straight from faceit" he has played under masonic according to hltv so he does have some previous pro match history
and mad-lions for a bit but realistically he was still basically straight from faceit because all his hltv stuff is nth-tier cs and for barely a year