Low Versus High Carb Diets | Dr Christopher Gardner | The Proof Podcast Bonus EP
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- In Episode 145 I sit down with Professor Christopher Gardner from Stanford University to chat about his research looking at low versus high carb diets for weight loss.
If you’re confused about carbohydrates, fat and how to manage your body weight then I am certain you will enjoy this episode. Dr Gardner is one of the most respected nutrition scientists in the world.
Specifically we cover:
0:00 Intro
3:48 Christopher’s Story
10:14 The A-Z Study
19:40 The DIETFITS Study
51:40 Personalized Nutrition & the Microbiome
59:34 What We Know Today
1:06:08 Outro
Resources:
Dr Gardner on Twitter: / gardnerphd
A to Z study: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17341...
DIETFITS study: jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...
Nutrition Studies at Stanford University: online.stanford.edu/courses/s...
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I find it very sad that this channel is so much less popular than some of the channels that feature proponents of specific diets who are, to put it politely, a little loose and relaxed with facts and science. This channel should be number one on UA-cam. Thank you for all the wonderful, well balanced content.
Dr. Christopher Gardner is an excellent communicator who clearly loves what he does. I really enjoyed this interview.
*Finally!* 👍🏼💯
💚 blood type A do well on high carb, vegan, vegetarian
💙 blood type O do well on carnivore
💜 Blood type B and AB do well on Mediterranean diets.
I loved this interview with Prof. Christopher Gardener. He comes across as such a wonderful human being. His enthusiasm is infectious. My mission to is listen to all of his other interviews on UA-cam to expand my knowledge of the gut microbiome and follow his advice about enjoying a predominantly plant based, whole food diet that it satiating.
phytochemicals are a poison found of most plants.
You make him sound like a con man.. Who does studies of his making and size and the turn perfectly in one way or another? Sounds like Mary Poppins stuff here. IF IT IS this easy, we all would have success AND there would be ~zero diabetics and fat butts in the world today.
Excellent guest, thank God there are a few intelligent doctors telling the truth about diet and nutrition. Keep up the good work Doctor Gardner.
Been on a very low carb diet for 6 months. Feel fantastic lost 3 stone, reversed diabetes and blood pressure normal.
No cravings....
I echo your experience
Low carb, one Mediterranean style meal today, in the morning, show a 22 :2 intermittent fasting
I am satiated, No cravings, no hunger, amazing
BP dropped from 160 to 120
Great job with this interview, Simon! You always ask the best questions; love that Dr. Gardner obviously enjoyed being able to answer intelligent questions with fascinating insights👏🏼. Thank you for bringing this kind of inclusive, helpful and actionable information to the public.
I've watched a boatload of food/diet/health/locarb/lofat/carnivore/keto/WFPB videos this year and Dr. Gardner is the least alarmist, most sensible voice I've heard. Thank you for this podcast.
This takes me back to the way we ate when I was growing up. We ate nothing processed, other than a few things that my mother canned, nothing added. We basically had a meat, potatoes, vegetable for dinner but not always potato, sometimes another vegetable instead. None of us were overweight and my parents were fairly slim and active their entire lives.
Similar to what my older family members had. Oatmeal for breakfast, potato, chicken, beans or something like that, and usually a sandwich or something for lunch if they ate a lunch.
Thanks for sharing this interesting conversation!
New to your channel Simon - this was an excellent conversation - I’m a 62 year old post menopausal T2D who set out on a reset of my mental and physical health last September - i gave up work to focus on turning my health around - I’ve lost 25 kilos and have another 20-25 kilos to lose to reach an acceptable body weight. In the past months I’ve lowered my AIC from 6.9 to 5.8 and inflammatory levels from 26.5 to 5.1. I’ve removed processed carbs and sugar certainly not keto as I enjoy bread and noodles but focus on protein good fats and salads vegetables - I try to eat within a 8-10 hour window. I’m not a good sleeper and was diagnosed with vestibular migraines a few months ago - I’m currently suffering with them daily so I’m waiting to see a neurologist soon - fascinating to hear the various components that contribute to weight loss - 25 years ago I lost 15 kilos in 3 months on a WW low fat high fibre diet - not sure I’d ever be able to repeat that weight loss on same regime - I’m wondering if any of the study participants ate within a time restricted period - eating within an individual’s circadian cycle interests me - can you please interview Dr Ben Bikman or someone else who specialises in optimum metabolic health aligned with the circadian rhythm - I love how you finished the conversation - let’s focus on the big ticket items - less refined sugar carbs and grains and focus on quality foods including protein good fats low GI fruit salad vegetables
Simon, thank you for this interview.
Thank you for your concluding advise, Prof. Eliminate the root cause of modern metabolic chronic diseases, which we all know what that is now. However the Low Carb Therapeutic Diet is the most successful in reversing Type 2 Diabetes and reducing insulin by half in Type 1 while eliminating the highs and lows, the greatest challenge in Type 1. Also doing cross-over studies on Ketogenic like Diets are potentially flawed because it takes 4 to 6 weeks to get fully Keto Adapted and the metabolic effects may last months compromising the crossover integrity of the study. Those already on low fat may also take longer to become fat adapted confounding the study further. There are now several studies proving the therapeutic benefits of proven versions of a low carb diet.
Loved this interview!!
Love the podcast ! Great job Simon!
This reminds me a bit of the blood type diets I think that started in the mid 1990s. I don't know how scientific they are, but very much speaks to the variability of diets that work for different people.
Having read both A to Z and DIETFITS, it's fascinating to hear the evolution of the thought process and how one study's limitations and insights led to the latter study's design and hypothesis. I love the emerging view in nutrition that there is no one best diet for everyone. We all need to find the one that's right for us while sticking to a generally applicable rule to prioritize food quality.
Dr. Gil after looking at several studies in meta-analyzes came the same point
I guess assuming the quality of the food was high
To dominating, overwhelming, deciding factor was caloric restriction, NOT type of diet
That raises the question if you're losing weight on either type of diet, low carb or low fat, then on average you must be in ketosis to be burning fat
Brilliant interview. It makes SO much sense that we can't lose the joy and pleasure of food because then any diet will fail.
Finally, a channel focused on finding facts, no matter what the hypothesis or stuff you want to promote (sell).
Totally agree Fundamental of more non-root veg, less refined wheat, no sugars or ultra processed food is what we all need to have
Thank you very much for this interview, professor Gardener is so knowledgeable and so easy to listen to. Thoroughly enjoyed your conversation. I am a WfPB and recently focusing more on beans and legumes and increased my nuts and seeds and avocados and feel more satiated than having grains !
Very interesting interview Simon. Thank you. Do you have an update on the results of the introduction of probiotic foods and increasing the fibre to 40gm in Christopher's study yet?
A conversation about food preferences and food addiction would have been interesting. I think this plays a big part in compliance with diets. Great discussion overall, loved all of it
I loved this Simon and Dr Chris Gardiner. I think this might be the first time I've had a chance to comment on your show Simon, despite loving it.
People are so different in the way they respond to food. I was a medical doctor so I love lapping up the evidence behind the physiology, metabolism and nutrition guidance by the different professionals you interview.
I'm currently doing ZOE testing because since I've been menopausal my blood sugar crashes when I do high endurance exercise, (mountain biking) and I now have to drink dextrose on my bike and have some high sugar food before I start. My metabolism can go up for a couple of days. Yet day to day my metabolism is slow and I wouldn't eat high fat, high sugar foods ultra processed and highly refined foods.I have to have a high protein diet, complex carbohydrate and lots of veg diet . I do eat meat and,I do eat yoghurt and keffir but my diet is generally high in legumes, nuts and seeds.
So, it's pretty good.
I'm 5 days into my ZOE testing and it is shocking to see my blood glucose spike to 8-10mmol/l after white basmati rice with wild rice or wholemeal pasta with a veg rich meat sauce. Equally I can see my blood sugar teetering along between 5-7mmol/l while I bike and then going right down afterwards. I just have to keep eating.
Interesting seeing what's happening in my body. Some of it I could have anticipated and some not!!
Your episodes with Dr Stacy Sims were the best podcasts I've seen with her.
I'm wondering whether Chris has specifically looked at metabolism and diet in peri and post menopausal women or their nutrition needs in excercise.
It would be interesting to see Dr Stacy Sims and Chris together. It would be interesting to see you interview Professor Tim Spector. I really respect the ZOE approach to looking at personalises nutrition. But I don't think they've got it right for people who do high endurance exercise. They can't all manage with normal food . I'm sure they will get there from what they find out from peoples measures but I'm sure they will be telling me to stop drinking dextrose and having high sugar snacks on my bike. But I felt ill before, even though I consumed a vast amount of carbohydrate rich food on my bike. Luckily I saw an endocrinologist who is an endurance athlete who recommended the dextrose drinks ( and gels or sweets if nedded), at the same time as I was looking into fuelling for high endurance exercise. And I feel much better and stand up whilst riding for the first time in 5 years.
There's not much out there re the nutrition needs of mountain biking which is a demanding sport when you're climbing up gnarly terrain. Lots on road biking, triathlon and running.
I'd love someone to study me and just menopausal athletes in general!
I was on a high carb vegan diet for 8 years doing relatively well. then I transitioned to a low carb keto diet based on meat eggs and dairy. I felt terrible, smelled bad, and had much lower energy. I have now switched back to high carb vegan and am feeling much much better. for me high carb is so much better. other people criticize high carb, but my experience doesn't match up with their criticisms.
High carb is the road to diabetes, plaqueing and alzheimers, imo.
Probably you were not able to switch over to fat burning from glucose burning.
Could be the cause of the terrible feeling for the switching from the carbs.
Diets have a very different offect on individuals. I am more like you but some people do better on lower carb diets
N=1.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 "imo"...says it all...
I can imagine that people who don't fare well on a low-carb diet may be too addicted to carbs. And I can imagine that people who thrive on a low-fat diet are metabolically very strong. That completely explains the outcome of the research as well. There is an optimal diet for deer, for wolves, apes, dolphins, and there is probably an optimal diet for humans too.
Seems like the more we learn, the more questions surface. I am beginning to think we don't know what we know.
Maybe the body adjust 🤔 i could eat whatever i want and i maintein My weight without excercise Even. But the problem is i can't be normal weight or have some muscle. I think i'm going to die very soon 😅😢
It is always great to listen to Prof. Christopher Gardener. As a scientist in another area I know how important it is to work with this really great attitude and open attention that he has. Concerning "Behaviour" and "general use" I would really appreciate to hear more from him. Concerning "adherence" I am missing always a good overview and analysis of the major "adherence factors". Something like:
- Food/behaviour for a better control of ghrelin/leptin. E.g. how certain fatty fish, some molecules, some activities or nipping lemon water with acv the whole day stop hunger and cravings. Is there more? what is best?
- Addiction and nucleus acumbens mechanisms: Some foods are really drugs, like alcohol. Means - how to help drug addicted? Is "just a little bit of the drug" really a good advice (most nutritians talk like that)? Would we do that with an teetotal alcoholic? What is the better approach? Of course "whole grain" is better than white toast - but does it trigger the nucleaus accumbens to get "the next more intense drug"? Like a gateway drug?
- Where to start to change behaviour: We know the list of good things that people should do. Good sleep, excercise, vegtables, legumes, a bit of fish, fun and less stress, family and friends, challenges...ok great. But obviously people have problems to change to this living style, sometimes even just a little bit. There is a "dark gravity" into another direction. Something destructive in humans is stronger. What is it, and how trick it out? Is the "what" really still the main question to discuss, or isn't it more the "how"? I cannot find many researchers working on the "how", but perhaps Prof. Gardener knows more? Many people are simply not able to do the best for themselve, and this is often not a problem of not knowing it.
I'm a high fibre and carb vegan. 5 years in, never going back ❤
... and just to reinforce Dr Gardner's point, I'm doing great on a low carb/high fat diet ! Diversity makes the world go 'round
Professor Gardner is such a relatable guy despite his extreme knowledge; I really love his approach to nutrition. For a vegan to say ok, a small amount of chicken or eggs or fish is probably ok so long as you have tons of fruit and veg is the message that needs to get out there. I'm plant based, but can appreciate his sentiment - a tiny bit of animal protein is better than gorging on burgers,pizza and fried breakfasts day in day out
Less is more.
I did terrible on the green jellybean diet, but thrived on the purple M&M diet. :-) (Dr Greger reference).
Calorie deficit, adherence and satiety so important, thanks for asking. The microbiome piece will be important too. Would love to hear about your microbiome results in a future episode. The final statement about joy in food incredible.
Wonderful interview. Always enjoy listening to Dr G and as he said, you ask great questions Simon. You have terrific guests and the journey you go on with them is always interesting and useful. I have a question regarding my female, 68 year old self. Is it possible to find someone who is across a decent amount of info on the way us very post menopausal women can eat nutritionally well and maintain optimal weight? I find the only women I know who stay slim in my cohort are hardly eating anything in a day and are often exhausted and unwell due to lack of good nutrition - but they look great! I struggle constantly. I eat really well and exercise a lot and I'm very healthy, except for being 12 kg overweight - which is not a healthy thing to be. Thank you, Liz :)
this was so awesome a really really great listen i loved this!!
Any advice for protein levels/sources with Advanced Cancer with cachexia????? Great interview!! Lots great information!!
Speak with your oncologist, an endocrinologist/rheumatologist , and get "second" opinions from others in these fields. You have not provided much information about your diagnosis, and honestly these things are way more complex than one could imagine, and as such a comment section on youtube is only going to get you snared up with scammers and chancers looking to separate vulnerable people from their cash/possessions. Good luck all the same.
Fantastic interview! 👏 thank you both very much, I thoroughly enjoyed that.
I'm currently Keto. 20yrs ago I was vegetarian. Both times a healthy weight. The things we all agree on, such as eating whole foods and cutting out refined and processed foods. Incorporating fermented foods too... that's what matters. Our bodies do need fats. Our microbiome is important, pasture raised animals have higher omega 3, factory grain fed animals are more inflammatory because the omega 3:6 ratios are out of whack. Animal welfare is important, eating foods you enjoy is important, what a great way to close!I recently read that blood types have an influence in what we may each thrive on for our optimum health, as we are predisposed to different health issues, and have evolved differently. This is not something I've heard verified by any studies. I've done well on both diets.
I was never vegan though. Doing carnivore for 3 weeks as an elimination diet was highly enlightening as I felt awesome! Dreadful to cut out all the polyphenols in fruit n veg long term, but surprising hoe adaptive my own system can be.
I'm thrilled he got the grant to do thatbstudy and the results are invaluable. Thanks for the excellent questions and findings.
My two favorite minds meet again! THANK YOU!!!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill I'm in school to be an RD and your work never fails to inspire me :) I so appreciate you, Simon!
Great Interview. In the end you talked about that the microbium is different between people and that this may be an indicator for personal nutrition advise. We know that the microbium changes when a diet changes long term. So that raises the question if it is smart to give nutritional advise looking at the microbium when the current diet is not healthy and the microbium just adapted as good as possible to the diet. Is there anything like a "healthy microbium" where people should aim for?
@@TheProofWithSimonHill I might have. Which number? I will rehear it then.
Just listened to it. Seems to be a difficult question to answer what a healthy microbium looks like..
where can i find the microbiome paper from the study of the immune study ?
Dr David Sinclair (longevity expert) said that there's a huge new study from Europe that tested several different types of diets on 10,000 mice, and the only group that did amazing was those who ate whatever they wanted, as much as they wanted, but only ate for i believe it was within a 2 hour window daily. They lived way longer than the other groups.
😅that makes me remember when i was back from work i would eat a bag of chips 600 gr, .and had in My freezer 1 kg of cold m&m. I eat first lays anda when i was i dont know maybe tired of eating lays i start with m&m 😅. I feel great, then maybe a monster ando icecream after dinner. Weir of all this i was always skinny, i did test For parasites, and things related and nothing, just had acne.
Rafael De Cabo is the scientist but u r not a mouse and u don’t live in a cage without germs. Ketosis is not a miracle state. if u have 700 million like David does u can afford to not eat and be lethargic all day long in order to live long!
And he will tell you as well that mice studies hardly ever translate to human biology.
Thanks
I could not help thinking similarities between The China Study(T. Colin Campbel) findings and Dr Christopfer Gardner research. One thing for sure, eating whole foods is mandatory if you're seeking to have a better health.
Great episode. I still miss the Plant Proof theme music.
How about the increasing cases of hypothyroidism and Hashimoto’s. Looking at treating the root cause of the hypothyroid which is the antibodies attacking the thyroid. Looking at healing/remission of Hashimoto’s through diet so the thyroid can begin to heal. I am a true believer in the body’s ability to heal itself.
I eat wfpb and the nutrients I have to watch are b12, of course, but also calcium (to reach 525 mg). Kale, black beans and oranges get me up to the necessary calcium. After adding chia seeds 1/2 oz, it's a done deal: simple.
I find carrots are less tasty. It's a slight chore to eat so some days I get less than 100% RDA of Vitamin A. It only takes 2 ounces of carrot.
Kale solves vitamin C without the need for citrus, for me. Oranges are very tasty though. I eat sometimes.
Whole wheat pasta gets me the B vitamins easily but if I replace 1/2 of it with oats then I have to watch niacin, which will be close but not quite. Nutritional yeast added gets enough.
Nothing else is remotely close to short including protein and all amino acids.
❤ 💯
I've been doing what Dr Gardner summed up in the end, whole grain, (way way way) less refined sugar, lots of vegetables although for me starchy is fine, I (try to) stay away from all processed nothing good comes from eating processed foods. Mostly plant based diet with the occasional usually lean meats and broths also. Virtually no oils or butter. Do drink some milk. Plenty of fruit when I can get it. And intermittent fasting. I eat in a 6 hour window and fast the rest of the time. My bmi ranges from 21.8 to 23.4. Pretty much maintained this range, 130 to 145lbs 5'6" for the last half a decade or more. Because of my CFS I am involuntarily sedentary. I don't eat gluten because of my CFS which adds a level of difficulty to the diet but at the same time was a lot of the motivation. Restricting food seems to help with my CFS symptoms specifically the food reactivity. People seem to be looking for a get rich quick type of solution to their weight problems. Doesn't happen that way, it takes time, dedication and sacrifice. I don't pay any attention to carbs or fat or protein intake other than I try to limit excess fat and carb. For all intents and purposes take no supplements. I have one a days and some ocular ones for my macular degeneration (I am 65) but rarely take them. Going without food for 18 hours kind of sucks, not eating junk food kind of sucks, but the benefit's far outweigh the sacrifice. You can get acclimated to it though. At my worst I think I weighed close to 175lbs. I do have the added benefit that I can spend the 1.5 to 2 hours a day it takes preparing my own meals and cleaning up afterwards. Not everyone has that luxury. Another thing I find extremely helpful not just with diet but insomnia at night and difficulty staying awake during the day is timing my meals at specific times every day and the get up and go to bed times as well. Like most other organisms we have a circadian clock eating and sleeping at different times screws that up.
Conclusive remarks about a foundational diet: 1000%!!!! When I tell people I eat predominantly whole plant foods I always add that the "whole" part is as important to me as the plant part. For me, plan A is wfpb, but plan b (when choices are limited) is modified paleo, like salmon and vegetables, not ultra processed or high glycemic vegan food. I understand and respect that a vegan would make a different choice, but I imagine that would be largely an ethical one.
I’d like to see what a high fiber (50 to 75 grams a day, maybe?), WFPB vegan diet would do against a traditional HFLC diet. If it already exist, please point me towards it because I’ve never seen one
Imo fiber is the key to weight loss. It’s automatic calorie restriction… I lost 105 pound over 25 years ago eating mostly vegetables and fruits, and have never regained it. I’m either a unicorn, or it’s the fiber
Everyone thinks some specific food-or lack of it- was essential to weight loss whereas Gardner and others have very clearly shown that weight loss happens with widely varying foods. You have no proof that you wouldn't have had similar results on an iso caloric diet THAT YOU FOUND SATISFYING. Whether it would have had other health marker results is another issue, yet there is plenty of evidence that blood markers improvements are due more to weight loss itself rather than the foods used. Sorry I know I am being a troll, but I came here only because I am intrigued by Gardner, not looking for reinforcement for vegan diets. I myself lost 40 lbs over 11 years ago and another 7-10 in the last six years of that time with a variety of macronutrient and fiber combinations. Honestly, it makes no sense to me that diet should be any different from religion. The odds that any one explanation, esp one that excludes so many viable alternatives in human experience, is going to be the right one is very small, no matter how comforting it is. I for one will NOT be looking for results comparing the two limited diets proposed. No matter how smart either one of them proves to be, only a small subset of those willing to challenge the natural propensity of the body to defend weight gain- so essential in our ancestors' survival- is going to live out the rest of their lives with such limitations, especially in a food-rich modern environment. The closer I came to either extreme, the more opposite food cravings and dissatisfaction I experienced. In this case, I will posit that my experience is more representative. The middle ground is much more fertile.
Honestly? It’s the calories. No one gets fat eating vegetables and fruit.
@@judyculang3766 Very few people will be willing to live eating mostly vegetables and fruit whether it keeps them thin or not. We don’t have a lack of ways for people not to get fat. We have a lack of effective ways to combat the consistent exposure to excessive calories. I’m not saying that it hasn’t been possible for some people, including me, but honestly what it took to get me to the point where I was willing to make the changes I needed to, and the process of figuring out how to do that in a sustainable way was tricky. I in so many situations online that I go to, I hear people clinging to habits that are definitely in the way, but it can take a lot of failure before excepting that.
What have "calories", a measurement of heat, got to do with anything?
@@oolala53 So, you say they have "clearly shown", but they have not clearly shown this. If they had clearly shown that, then the likes of Dr. Robert Lustig and the other scientists in this field would be on board with them. By his own admission, Dr. Gardener's methods are not exact, for example the sampling of only 3 days nutritional parameters from the trial participants per month/3 month window. That is not "clearly showing" anything. Dr. Gardener even extols Lustig's ability to identify significant information where he himself was unable to because Lustig's methodologies are scientifically more rigorous, or controlled.
Diet (or nutrition science) vs religious belief - well that would be down to proof would not it?
Good luck with that middle ground, but in the interim I support any scientific endeavor that allows for greater insight into human physiology, and how it pertains to best dietary practices, on a causative basis, rather than what feels good, or blind faith. On that basis, studies which have tightly controlled methodologies, such as Lustig's, rather than the loose approach of Gardener's studies are more valuable in that laudable end, in my opinion. All the best.
I just got a blood a bunch of blood work done at the hospital and I got copies of it all what type of thing should I be looking for? Anyone can answer
What would be the first step for taking test ,just got massive info from the gi doc i went to please someone help me
Love this guy! So clear and intelligent ♥️ I’m 59 female post menopause! Plant based and struggling! Help! Need to lose about 30 lbs to my sweet spot weight!
We’ve got to lower our insulin in menopause. You can be keto plant based. I can eat two potatoes a day, and not drop one pound. I definitely believe that some folks in the world have adopted to the modern agricultural food, and some of our genetics have not adapted fully yet. I get rashes, gain weight, my mood lowers, anxiety on plant-based high carb. Keto makes me full of energy, lose weight have clear mid and elevated mood. I fully believe that my middle eastern in-laws thrive on a well done and supplemented vegetarian diet.
Hi Simon, I recently found your podcast and listening through all the episodes. Absolutely loving it, I am inhaling them, thank you. I know you and Dr B touched on eating disorders in episode 70, and my brain can possibly not retain all the knowledge I am trying to digest, but i would love an in-depth one on the path of recovery. What actually happens to the body when you have an eating disorder for lets say 10 years and then start to heal. Are there studies on this? Can the body fully heal, what happens in the gut after bulimia and or starving yourself? The best to do besides whole plant food diet and exercise, are there specific things to look out for, or specific supplements that would benefit such a person on such a journey? Maybe if this is not a science enough field to do a podcast on do you know of someone who does talk about this more in-depth. There is also so much psychology linked to this and brain chemistry stuff, so definitely a layered topic. (English is not my first language, excuse the normal talking style) Thank youuuuu x
Any chance of a podcast with Cyrus Khambatta PHD & Robby Barbaro MPH? They authored the book Mastering Diabetes.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Thank you. I found one where only they spoke. Will search out the other podcasts. Love your interviews😊👍
Keto is the greatest thing I have ever discovered. I have never been happier and healthier.
Good luck😬😬😬💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Maybe your blood type determines what is best for your health and weight lost? Dr D’Adamo wrote several books on blood type A- vegetarian B- low fat some chicken O- carnivore meat eaters
so what I took from this is eat a whole foods diet it does not need to be low fat or low carb ?? even with insulin resistance?
Looks like it, if it has enough fiber.
What do you think about plant-based low-carb diets. Would there be an issue with eating a lot of nuts and seeds for unsaturated fat?
Seeking fibre is meaningless. It does nothing beneficial.
Why do carnivores so so well without it?
I’m curious about the low fat science. What about the low fat diet makes it help people eat less calories?
I’m pro low carb / Keto because it helped me eat less calories while not being hungry during the day. For me, that is the most difficult part of dieting is being hungry. It’s not going to be sustainable longer term. Who wants to spend a life constantly being hungry?
From what I understand, they did a study of people fasting, finding that around 2-3 day into the fast, subjects reported a decrease in appetite. This was attributed to their bodies going into Ketosis. Then later discovered the same level of Ketosis could be achieved by eating a very low carbohydrate diet.
What would be the factors that prevent hunger on a low fat diet?
I would have to agree with you - I eat two substantial meals with a 6-10 hour time period - when I lower my processed carbs and sugar I feel less hungry - the past few weeks I’ve started eating things like oats for breakfast and I’m hungry just a couple of hours later - I’ll be going back to protein fats for my first meal
How about the old saw that muscle at rest burns more calories than fat at rest? I don’t hear it factored into any of of the diet studies. I don’t hear it mentioned at all. Is it debunked? I’m also wondering if muscle% vs. fat% has anything to do with insulin resistance.
Also there is more than one kind of these tissues. Eg Brown Fat seems to have it main function as that of generating heat, and thus is very high rate in terms of calorie consumption, thus folks with higher proportion of Brown Fat burn through more calories, and thus have a natural tendency to be more lean. I am not an expert, but it is an interesting area. Good luck.
I have to wonder if processed foods are the only way to feed an overpopulated planet.
You know what bothers me about all these different experts, is that the one answer I am looking for I cannot find anywhere. which is Vegan or Keto versus Carnivore diet and which is actually the best for our body. I have yet to find one video from anyone on a carnivore diet that says they haven't improved they're health, especially in terms of auto-immune diseases substantially and if anything, cured. Each camp vehemently talks about what they believe, but I have yet to see a debate or an serious discussion on the data out there.
Simon believes keto or omnivore or vegan can all work, but he is against carnivore long term. I agree with you about too little discussion amongst nutrition influencers with different opinions.
I have been on carnivore for 4 months. Health has improved however I'm still not adapted. So soon I will very likely start adding carbs as it is negstively affecting me - brain fog, fatigue, tired, moody etc. My body loves carnivore but I'm significantly less energized without carbs..really sucks as I'm doing it for mental health reasons and so I havwnt got the great mood or concentration at all. However I am much more healthy if that makes sense. that may relate to this video in that perhaps only certain people can do carnviore sustainably
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Maybe try going whole foods plant dominant. I feel better this way after years of keto stuff
The biggest takeaway seems to be that people are awful at following dietary advice.
Big-food has and is working tirelessly to improve and enhance their efforts in this regard. P.S. I liked the "Biggest Takeaway" pun... very good very good. :)
Keto / carnivore for me is the best diet. High fat all animal based. Never been better.
Regarding glucose disgusting taste, I remember drinking a liter of almost 1/2kg of diluted glucose powder at 18 years old, thinking that I could avoid the argentinian military service, faking a diabetic situation, when the got my blood sample that early morning in 1978, under the military dictatorship. Man, it was soo disgusting! And i felt like crap and I was really uneasy until i puke it out in the middle of the waiting line .
(I finally succeded in avoiding draft, but only from a family friend doctor's reccomendation).
When I got plant based I also start drink one liter of orange juice and cured my diabetes in a matter of weeks
28:09 So this must explain why 23andMe said I could lose weight on either low fat or low carb diets.
Atkins diet didn't work for me neither did Longevity diet. The only diet that worked for me was Rosemary Conley GI HIP AND THIGH diet. You do 2 weeks of 1200 calories plus daily exercise. Called fat attack fortnight. After the two weeks you calculate your weight to how many cals you need. It does work. I started at 154lbs and dropped to 8st 10lbs. It took 15 months to lose it. For 2 years I stayed at 9st 8. Then went stupid and ate what I wanted. Now am 11st. So back where i started. My only complaint about her diet is it's void of fats inc avocados 😢 omg and no olive oil. Also you need to exercise most days or walk and if you're a lazy git like me then it's hard to stay motivated to do it.
While some proponents claim various health benefits, it is important to consider the potential risks and limitations associated with such a restrictive dietary approach.
Here are some points to consider:
Lack of essential nutrients: By excluding plant-based foods, a carnivore diet can potentially lead to deficiencies in essential nutrients such as fiber, certain vitamins (like vitamin C), minerals (like potassium), and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. These nutrients play crucial roles in maintaining overall health and reducing the risk of chronic diseases.
High saturated fat and cholesterol intake: A carnivore diet is typically high in saturated fats and cholesterol, which are primarily found in animal products. A diet high in saturated fat and cholesterol has been associated with an increased risk of heart disease and other cardiovascular issues.
Limited fiber intake: Plant-based foods are the primary source of dietary fiber, which is important for maintaining digestive health, regulating blood sugar levels, and supporting heart health. A carnivore diet can lack adequate fiber intake, potentially leading to constipation and other digestive problems.
Potential nutrient imbalances: Relying solely on animal products can disrupt the balance of macronutrients in the diet, particularly with regard to carbohydrates. This can potentially affect energy levels and overall metabolic health.
Long-term sustainability: The sustainability of a carnivore diet is questionable due to its heavy reliance on animal products. From an environmental perspective, a plant-based or plant-forward diet is generally considered more sustainable and eco-friendly.
Individual variations: It's important to acknowledge that individual responses to different dietary approaches can vary. Some individuals may report short-term improvements in certain health markers or conditions while following a carnivore diet. However, long-term effects and potential risks should be carefully considered.
Why are you trying to hypnotize me with your eyes?
Simon I lost 27 pounds about 2 years ago. The one thing that I noticed was at about the 20 pounds mark my metabolism fought me and I had to use intermittent fasting to get past that point.
I called this challenge a weight loss set point. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this effect?
This stabilization / weight loss plateau is also happening to me. I'm age 67, went from a 22 BMI to a 27 BMI throughout the Covid 19 pandemic. For the past 6 weeks I've followed the Bright Line Eating Plan which is all about zero added sugar, zero flour, zero snacks, 3 weighed and measured meals a day 4 hours and 5 hrs apart. In the first 14 days I dropped 7 pounds. And now for the past 2 weeks my total weight drop has stalled at a stubborn 11.6 pounds and I'd love to get to 12 pounds.
@@zeldasheldon1You have to add in exercise. You won't get there with diet alone.
What type of B12 did you put into the Essential 8 ? Methylcobalamine I hope, because cyanocobalamin is very difficult for many people to convert into the usable form of B12, Methylcobalamine specifically.
Cyanocobalamin actually blocks the receptor sites, and prevents the usable form of B-12 from getting in.
Could you please tell us what macros were used for your High carb studies ? 80 10 10 ? more ? less ?
Many studies have been made using 60 20 20 and are described as “high carb” by researchers … and their results are, of course, very different compared to a TRUE high carb 80 10 10 results
There MUST BE different results on insulin when we go true high carb.
Naw they wont do that... You will have to bu the book for that ;)
I think it’s wild that every time I see him he’s got a different hairstyle or glasses or something. I hope he’s not on the run.🤣🤣🤣💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Was on keto for 3 years. Ate lots of meat and my B12 level is low. What gives?
Ironically, omnivores are only half as likely to be B12 deficient than vegans. One fifth of people are b12 deficient and should be taking b12.
Just download your book. The Proof in the Plants and subscried to you
Captain Jack with a baseball cap
Fan boy'n hard
Your guests spent the whole interview basically extolling the Mediterranean diet, and yet he himself eats vegan. I wish you would have spent more time discussing why he eats vegan, leaving out the religious aspect of animal rights, and enlightening us all on that.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Which one is that?
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I didnt hear anything new. Sadly, I do see how our govt wastes money on grants.
All information is available for years but many dont want to eat healthy.
People who criticise carbs are metabolically broken from ulta processed foods. It has nothing to do witu the carbs are innocent 😅
A pretty solid criticism is that most people get the bulk of their carbs from bread. Humans have only eaten grains for not even 1% of their existence. Even whole grain bread spikes the blood sugar of even the most metabolically healthy people. Bread is the proto-ultra processed food we developed. Not healthy for anybody but some can get away with it much longer, some their whole life.
This guy makes some good points but towards the end he says we would all eat out and let the restaurant do our cooking? lol ... Most of us can't afford this ... IF HIS WOrDS are true, let ronald mcdonald cook for us with this great tasting food and we can all eat out there... lol...
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Reality is always in the way of actual human life. So do your own thinking across the board of life or you are just being lead around by your nose...
@@TheProofWithSimonHill At about the 1:04:00 mark, he says to bring chefs on board... He even used the term Moroccan species for cooking with.
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Hate to say this but meats, low-carb real foods taste AOK so I do no actually need ~buzz words to make my foods edible..
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Deleted my comment? U are a phony also..
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Really too bad so many of you experts are BS people
I do better with low fat. @Peter Rogers MD - he's also v low fat
Not generalisable as it is anecdotal in numbers.
Autoimmune diseases disagree with u 😅
Anytime a doctor recommends a meal strategy that is clearly the opposite of what our anthropogenic evolution suggests (carnivore) then clearly his recommendations are not based in science they are based on being captured by the food industry.
Suggesting we are carnivores is unscientific. We likely ate lean meats, nuts, seeds, some greens, fibrous starchy roots, and the like.
Native Americans had literal wars over acorn tree lands for its plentiful starchy calorie source..
Lets ask a dr who is sponsored by beyound meat what he thinks about nutrition. This is why i nake videos on this BS
Just one nonsense BS doc