Chevy Equinox Oil Burning Fix Will it Work?
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I recently acquired a 2012 Chevy Equinox. It has a 2.4 liter engine which is notorious for its oil burning problems. This one has been going through about a quart every couple of hundred miles. This is caused by the low-tension piston rings that are used in these engines. The rings get gummed up very easily and allow oil past the piston and into the combustion chamber to be burned and go out the exhaust. They also don't have a PCV valve, but a metered hole that provides vacuum for the crankcase.
This is of course cheaper for manufacturing but causes problems when the hole plugs.
In this video, I will attempt to use Seafoam to clean up the pistons and rings and hopefully reduce the oil-burning problems. I will then try the method of drilling a hole in the intake for access to the PCV hole so I can clean it out. It was plugged, so it needed to be cleaned.
This car was owned by the same woman who owned Buster, the van I made into a camper years ago. She sadly passed away recently and left me her car.
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Good to see you posting again Luke! It's always sad to lose a good friend or family member. Although none of us will make it out alive, it's still sad. Knowing someone like that makes life better, because they will always be a part of your good memories.
As to the car burning oil, I hope the Seafoam works for you. I've always had to replace the rings to solve that kind of problem. I was glad to see the larger tires solved the bottoming out problem on the Buick.
Yes, there are very many great memories of her. She raised my wife and was an adopted mother to her. Her, and her friend would always make dinners any time one of us had a birthday, or for Christmas. I'm going to really miss that.
As far as the seafoam, I think it has helped. We drove about 130 miles yesterday with the seafoam in the crank case, and then I changed the oil. It had used a half quart in that time which is an improvement. I'll do an update after a thousand miles or so.
195,000 miles on my 13 terrain. I use bardahl no smoke with stop leak. Reduces the oil consumption to about 1/10 a quart every thousand miles. Every 1000 miles as well remove the intake and clean the oil that collects inside the manifold. Car runs beautifully with a lil tlc.
Great to see you back here. Nice to hear Buster is still going strong. Interesting fixes for these engine problems. 👍
So far seems to have worked. Oil hasn't moved from full in about 200 miles so far. Fingers crossed 🤞.
Well, back in the day when we had this problem. We would put a quart of automatic transmission fluid in the oil And run it till the next oil change Usually would take care of it
I'll keep that in mind. I may have to try that, if this doesn't work.
I'm sorry that you got this because you lost a treasured person in your life. I'll watch the video you linked about her now.
I hope this worked ... sounds risky to me, but that engine is pretty far gone, so worth the try. Glad to hear that Buster's still going strong.
That's a beautiful tribute you created for your friend. She looks to have been an exceptionally deep down beautiful person.
Yes, I have struggled with her loss, and miss her a lot. She raised my wife from a child, and was basically like my mother in law. She did some great work in her life and was cherished by many people.
I think the Seafoam may have done something. We drove about 130 miles yesterday to let it work in the crankcase. It had used a half-quart so it has improved. I changed oil and filter in it, and am going to keep an eye on it.
I'm so sorry for your loss. You and your wife and family must really be hurting. My heart is with you all.
@@dsteele27 thank you.
Thanks for your videos. Just bought my 16 year old daughter a 2012 equinox with 118,000. Got a good deal and now I know why. It just had a fresh oil change when we bought it and after the first full tank of gas, it used almost a quart of oil. Also the blow by was strong from the oil cap like yours was. I changed to the pressure relief oil cap to prevent any main seals blowing. I also added 1/2 can of seafoam to the fuel. I plan on doing seafoam in the oil before the next oil change. I did the test of plugging pcv hose to hear the whistle and I did not get one so I’m guessing I need to drill a hole and clean the orifice. Is the drill hole precise or just pretty close to where you did? It’s hard to see from the video of exact location of drilling. Also… would you suggest adding a pcv valve in original oil cap or just staying with the new cap with the pressure relief built in and clean orifice every 5-10,000 miles?
So far this has been a very dependable car, and with the oil burning problem solved, it should last for a long time.
I think I would recommend the PCV in the cap. I think that pretty much makes the hole I drilled useless. I haven't worried about the hole since I did that and in a way wish I hadn't drilled the hole in the intake. If you do still want to clean out the hole, The hole I drilled was pretty much in the center of the space. If it is off a little it won't matter that much as you can feel around with the wire to find the hole.
Good luck and hope your daughter enjoys the car for a long time.
Excess pressure in the crank case. Drill a hole in the oil filler cap and install a PVC valve. This excess pressure also contributes to premature failure of the rear main seal
That's what I ended up doing. It is working very well so far.
These cars burn soooo much freaking oil! I have a 2017 and my wife started using it for door dash and this car goes though 5QTs a month. The oil consumption issue with this 2.4 eco-tech engine is a huge problem. I have to check the oil once a week and usually had 1/2 to 1 quart.
Yes they will burn oil. The Seafoam cleaning and adding in a pcv valve seems to have almost stopped the oil usage. I still check it every second time I drive it but it only uses half a quart between oil changes now.
My 2010 Malibu 2.4L Ecotec has an oil consumption problem, I use *Yamalube Ring Free Plus* in the gasoline and 5 fluid ounces of *Seafoam* in the oil crankcase. Just did my second Seafoam treatment last week, will have to see how much oil is used in the next 2000 miles, so far I have noticed much better power and fuel economy has improved.
Yamalube Ring Free Plus has a shock treatment of 2 fluid ounces per gallon of gasoline and then change your oil after using up that tank of fuel.
If it starts using oil again I'll try the Yamalube. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have a 2012 GMC Terrain with with the same issue. I mean had. There was a issue with the rings and pistons. Went through the process the dealer needed to prove it used oil. It did . In short the engine was rebuilt under factory . And now it uses no oil.
That's great! I think this one is past time for that. It is good now, hardly any oil at all.
I am having the same problem with my chevy equinox 2014. What is the process you had to get it rebuilt
I found another way to fix it... Trade it in on another car! That actually fixed all the problems and I don't have to give it a 2nd thought.. :)
That would be a sure fix.
It might be easier to add the seafoam to the gas when it is at about 1/4 a tank of gas. That is 16 oz per 4 gallons. I did that and used CRC GDI valve cleaner. I think it gets through and cleans the rings as well. Now to see how fast it goes through oil.
So far it is still doing great. I've already drove it enough for another oil change. It just uses about a quart in an oil change now. That's good enough for me.
My 2012 has 240k on it. I keep up on the oil and check it often. Yes I have noticed it uses oil. My gf has a 2017 and hers uses oil too but she doesn't check it much. I've told her she needs to keep up on it
Good to hear yours has lasted that many miles. So far it has been a very dependable vehicle for me. Yeah checking and changing oil is very important.
@lukeFugate I am thinking of taking it to the shop to have the PCV mod done though.
I put seafoam In the oil and now it diesels when I shut it off.
@ericzerkle8486 it might stop doing that when you change the oil. Not sure what would cause that, usually a fuel issue I think
@ericzerkle8486 actually after I looked it up carbon deposits can cause dieseling. The carbon holds heat and acts like a glow plug. The seafoam probably knocked some of it loose and it's letting it diesel. I think it was carboned up pretty bad and might need another treatment through the vacuum line.
My 2011 had the same issue. Turns out chevy had recalled it for oil consumption problems. They ended up replacing my engine at 100k miles. Im now at 220k miles and it started again.
They probably still use the low tension rings. This treatment has worked so far. I don't use any oil between changes now.
Excellent video and I love the "Jeff the Custodian" music!!
Thank you!
I did the sea foam and let it sit over night. Gave it the beans the next day and it looked like a Stage 2 tune 24V. Felt bad for the car behind us
So did you drill that through the outside and plug it? To avoid removing the entire intake?
Yes. Thinking back, that probably wasn’t necessary as the PCV in the cap should be sufficient.
I'm getting Cataclean tomorrow mine failed emissions said i have a bad cat but it's probably just clogged.I've heard great things about Cataclean!Has anyone tried it if they failed emissions?
Does anyone know how to tell if your welding wire is actually going into the pcv valve.. like how far in is the wire supposed to go. I drilled the hole in the same spot he did but I just want to make sure the wire is going in to the pcv valve.
Sorry for the late reply. I just kept poking around until it went deeper. You should be able to feel it go into the hole. There may be a small amount of resistance felt as it pushes debris out of the hole.
Im gonna try some of suggestions with the seafoam (even though idk how to in crankcase part) Is there a place i can purchase a cap made like yours that will help?
I used the original cap and just drilled a hole in it. They do sell a replacement cap which has a vent on it. It may help with letting the pressure escape, but I could see that plugging up as well.
Part number
FC 219. You can purchase it at GM dealership parts dept or online. I think I paid under 20 bucks. In cold weather we put it on to keep the main seal from blowing out when the pvc port freezes up.
145,000 miles on my 2015- never had a problem other than a water pump at 112,000 miles!
Good to know these can last a while.
The issue is with 2010 to 2013 models mainly
Did you change the timing chain as well?
Looking forward to the next video. In a different video they took the spark plugs out and poured the seafoam in the holes and let it sit for 24 hours.
Oil is the least of the problems with the equinox. The timing belt issue will destroy the engine soon.
I think the oil being low is the cause of the premature timing chain failure. Of course, with all the "bells and whistles" on this car, I don't expect it to last long anyway. Too much to go wrong.
What timing belt?...
@loveracing1988 you are correct. These have a chain, not a belt. I think that was what he meant, though.
Chain is correct.
You got it backwards. Unlike standard fuel injection, this 2.4 engine uses “direct injection”, which contaminates oil with fuel starting the day of the oil change. Fuel dilution limits the lifespan of oil. Failure to change the oil at 5k leads to a breakdown in the oils ability to lubricate and clean. Which wears down the links in the chain, lengthening it. So.. the chain is a symptom of the problem. The problem is the owner not performing the maintenance.
How your cabin you built I have not seen a video of it in a long time I say you had did some changes on it.
It still looks the same, My son moved back into the trailer for more room. He has some cats in it right now to get rid of mice. They were starting to eat holes in the walls. I think they have ran them out now though. Actually, he was redoing the kitchen when he moved out, so it still needs finished. For a cabin built from recycled materials, its holding up good.
Need to make a work cabin out of it or a football cabin.
Hey cuz do you think the seafoam thing will work for valve stem seals?
Probably not. It’s worth a try, but I don’t think it will work because if the valve stem seals are worn they will have to be fixed. Sea foam pretty much just cleans.
@@lukeFugate thanks cuz.....guess I'll fix them .....hey it was worth a shot.
Or... You can remove the intake manifold and drill from the blowback hole itself on the opposite side. But not to big of a hole. Make sure to angle your drill bit some to not drill into the MAP sensor.
I wish I wouldn't have wasted the time cleaning out that hole at all now. The PCV valve in the oil cap mod is the way to go. No problems at all now.
So did this work? Is it still burning oil? Do you still have high levels of blow by into crankcase?
It has worked to an acceptable amount. My oil usage is pretty good now, less than a quart per oil change. Here is my last update, it has gotten better since then. ua-cam.com/video/7w4zcGdB0Hw/v-deo.html
Hey Luke great to see you doing a video again. Not that I haven't watch the others I just don't understand a lot about the alternate fuel thing.
This interest me because I have a little bit of a different problem and wondered if you've come across this and what solution you might have to try outside of surgery! Lol
My 4-cylinder 1997 Suzuki sidekick has a bit of a different problem. It was running rich and had a misfire we've gotten that taken care of but apparently fuel is somehow getting past whatever and dumping into my oil a lot. So when I do an oil change the oil appears very thin and smells a lot of gas. When I start it up after the engine is totally cool down or upon first start up in the morning there will be some smoke. I have been using Lucas high mileage oil treatment oil change trying to add thickness to the oil and more lubricating properties. But I worry about it and I've spent a ton of money recently on repairs and don't really have money to spend yet I don't want to have to replace an engine either!
Any ideas for additives or things that I could do that might help? I have to change my oil every 45 days because I drive 3000 Miles and that. Of time. I've always been religious about changing the oil.
Good to hear from you again.
Sounds like it could be either stuck rings, or just plain worn out rings.
The problem with running really rich is washing oil off the cylinder walls causing loss of lubrication. It could have worn the rings, or scratched up the cylinder walls. I'm not sure if that engine has a mechanical fuel pump, probably not being a 1997. I have seen the diaphragm go bad in a mechanical fuel pump and dump fuel into the crank case.
If it is still getting fuel past the rings, it may still be running rich or the oil rings are gone.
I would suggest getting ahold of a borescope to look inside the cylinders. It would show up right away if they were scarred up.
I have used some stuff called Restore it comes in a silver can and I think Wal Mart has it. Heres a link to see what it looks like.
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It has worked for me to free up rings and increase compression. It doesn't always work though.
I think the engine is getting worn and will probably need to have the rings replaced at some point. The running rich is probably what accelerated the wear.
@@lukeFugate thanks Luke! I don't get a code anymore for running rich but it's had a generic PO400 code 4 years. After a lot of money being spent and a bunch of baloney I finally got it running right again but one mechanic said something about valve guide SEALS or something to that effect
Find and change your broken fuel injector
@@lukeFugate bad injector
I have a question about these engines and one of the fixes I've seen. Some people put a hole in the oil fill cap and run a line around to the back of the back of the air box. Am I wrong in thinking that would just increase the oil consumption?
I don’t think the air box would have sufficient vacuum to properly work like a PCV system. It could actually use more oil in that case.
Im not an expert in any regaurd, but i do have some experience working on my own cars under my belt. Putting a hole in the oil cap wouldnt do much other than let excess air build-up out. A stock intake shouldnt be able to provide enough suction to suck oil through the oil cap. Especially if you put a pcv valve in said hole.
@@FluffyMI6 I ended up using a pcv in the oil cap connected to the brake booster line. It has worked very well and with the cleaning with seafoam every oil change the oil use is negligible now.
Nice video thanks for help with equinox
No problem 👍
Can you spray throttle body cleaner in the hole to help clean it more?
Yes that would work. Good idea.
COULD IT BE THE PCV VALVE? AFTER I CHANGED IT ON 2008 CORROLLA I CAN SEE THE POWER INCREASED NO MORE LAG LIKE BEFORE.
These do not have a PCV valve. The closest there is to PCV is the tiny hole in the intake manifold. I did add a PCV valve to the oil cap, this and the cleaning seems to have fixed it.
I thought this video said it would be straight to the point! Had to listen to a LONG history prelude first. I think this method loses a lot of viewers. (Especially those with ADD.)
Guess you missed the link to the shortened video. I told at the beginning that if you just wanted the to the point version it was linked.
Every four cylinder I’ve owned has had air blowing when oil cap is removed
Let's stay focuse
I had a quicker version I told about at the beginning. It was linked in a card but the direct link is ua-cam.com/video/-1xb9_mHM48/v-deo.html
The longer version was for people who were interested in the story of the car. By the way the process has worked great, it barely uses any oil at all now.
Iv done a new timing chain new could new sensors ECT still ha ing rouf idle and stalling and little oil usage any idea
is there a check engine light? It could be a fueling issue.
Would this help a 2015 equinox?
It's worth a try. Mine seems to be holding up well. It still has oil consumption but not nearly as bad, about a quart every thousand miles which is acceptable to me. I have already put 3000 miles on it and have done the Seafoam in the crankcase a second time. I then changed the oil again. This time after about 500 miles the oil hasn't dropped at all. I am hopeful this has freed up the rings.
I had a 2006 ctv that went thru a quart every 200+ miles----- turned out it was only the Pcv valve
I added in a PCV valve yesterday, so it might help. I put one in the oil cap and T'd into the brake booster line. I was hoping when I cleaned out the PCV hole, it would help the blow-by some, but it didn't. we drove it about 130 miles yesterday with the seafoam in the oil, and then I changed the oil. It had only used less than a half quart which was an improvement.
Is yhis video about a car burning oil or about peiple?
It's both. I put a link to the shortened version and told that in the video. I guess you skipped it.
Don't feel bad, my equinox was using 5 quart in about 300 miles at 40000 miles
Wow! Thats pretty bad!
Thanks for your insight. i have a 2011.
How come the damn light doesn't come on when it's over a qt low is beyond my comprehension. Shame on Chevrolet.
Shouldn't have to watch it like a 2 yr old child.
Yeah, they should have a gauge. Can't understand why they don't. Or like you said at least a light. In my case, I am used to checking oil every time I get gas, just a habit as it just takes a few seconds to check.
With the mods I have done to this it doesn't use enough oil between changes to add any.
I am going to add a gauge soon. I'll make a video of it when I do.
Are you saying oil or all ?
Oil lol.
The MAIN thing to prolong engine from destruction is CHANGING OIL REGULARLY- even synthetic oil..
Very true. I do 3000 mile oil changes on everything I own. I don’t care what the manufacturer recommends, oil collects some moisture and dust gets by the air filter.
I honestly don't think it burns oil. See, the front crank shaft seal needs to be replaced roughly every 30k-40k miles.
It starts out leaking about a quart every 100 miles or so. Whats happening is the timing wheel/harmonic wheel is spraying the oil downwards to the ground. If you look behind the passenger side tire on the engine you will see oil all over. This is after a long period of time without fixing it. If you don't replace it the car will start to buck a bit as your driving and can also buck real bad at stop lights. Im gonna make a video tomorrow.
Unfortunately this car is our family vehicle so it must always work🙏
I will NEVER buy a G.M. product made after 1999 ever again...I have a 88 one ton G.M.C.and it is truly like a rock💪💪💪🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪💪🏆🏆🏆
Yeah, the older GMs were great. This treatment seems to have fixed my Equinox though. It only uses about a quart per oil change now.
Hey, im late to the post but when u say dont replace soon. Are you talking about the car or something on the car. My car def rocks back and forth when at ted light. I have to put it in neutral.
Did it work
Yes still doing great. Only a half quart between changes.
@lukeFugate have u ever had a p0300 code? Mine runs great besides seems to have a misfire when i put it into drive or reverse. Rpm gauge fluctuates. Put it back in park or neutral and it idles normal.
@aarondefenbaugh3157 never had that code yet on the Equinox. Could be an issue with timing, or possibly fuel delivery. Could change the fuel filter and see if thar helps.
@@aarondefenbaugh3157 Sounds like timing issue. You have troubles my friend. My grand daughter's equinox did the same thing. Timing chain, tensioner, guides, sprockets, all shot. I replaced all. Pretty big job.
Well Chevy " use " to make pretty good vehicles.. But yeah, it's past tense now!!
You got that right! I have one Chevy with 360,000 miles on it and another with almost 600,000 miles. I think if I get 150,000 out of this one it will be surprising.
Just fixed it. Traded it in for a Dodge.
Probably a good move.
See the Liquid piston engine , It will be the next engine
Cat is clogged that’s why you didn’t see the smoke
It let it out after we got on the main road. Looked like a smoke screen, I couldn't see anything behind me. It could have been clogged and the Seafoam cleared it out.
He needs Cataclean I've heard good things tying it tomorrow
To much talkn just fix it already
I guess you skipped through lol. I said at the start that I put up a version that was straight to the point in the description. The longer version was for my regular subscribers.
Piss poor engineering by the geniuses at GM
My man not only had to become a mechanic in order to own a 2.4 but also had to become an engineer and inventor. Kinda makes you wonder why smart people like this buy these turds in the first place.
I wonder this about myself. But my 2017 terrain will be paid off soon( owe $2,500) at 90k miles and burns 1.5 qts in between 4,000 mi oil changes . It will be sold/traded in for what ever I can get and I’m washing my hands with GM. And even American made vehicles from now on. The quality is trash.
Sadly enough, if a man wants a reliable vehicle now days he’s gotta buy a foreign.
Well in this case, I didn't buy it. It was inherited. It's sad to see that in 2017 they still hadn't fixed the issue. I probably would never buy anything this new, just not my style. After seeing how much stuff there is to go wrong in newer cars, screens, and buttons everywhere, even on the steering wheel. The computer controls everything, including all the lights and plastic covering the entire engine compartment. I looked at my brother-in-law's 2020 Camry, it's the same way all bells and whistles and fancy stuff that will break and just become a nuisance.
I'll stick to my older stuff with actual style and easy to work on. My wife loves it though so I guess I gotta keep it on the road. That being said after doing these mods I have to admit it doesn't use any oil between changes now, and starts up every time without fail. It is still a slow and badly balanced car though.
Get Lucas oil stop leak you won't burn that much oil
This Seafoam cleaning and the PCV mod have completely stopped the oil usage in this car. I don't have to add any between changes.
Nice video good ideas too bad the nice lady didn't buy a Toyota Highlander or RAV4 well of course then you wouldn't be able to make this video
true.
Dude
engine made in china
Yes, I would say so, just like almost everything nowadays.
I'm getting Cataclean tomorrow mine failed emissions said i have a bad cat but it's probably just clogged.I've heard great things about Cataclean!Has anyone tried it if they failed emissions?
I'm getting Cataclean tomorrow mine failed emissions said i have a bad cat but it's probably just clogged.I've heard great things about Cataclean!Has anyone tried it if they failed emissions?