Your drilling skills are superb. 0:44 I used a milling machine to drill holes one day just to be lazy, but all the holes were misaligned, and the offset and direction were inconsistent. After many tests I found out that my feed rate was incorrect and that there was still a chance to correct the bit before the taper angle was fully in the surface of the object.
OMG I am so making one of these. Thank you for showing how you did it. Great work even while improvising when needed. Congrats on the new tools. New tools are always so exciting. 😀 I ❤new tools. (and old tools, LOL)
Agree about the cutter mount grub screw, potential weak point if screw overtightened, however, a beautifully finished and very useful machine tool. Both the tool and the video presentation are a credit to the presenter.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Thank you for your reply. As an old school retired engineer, with a lifelong passion for all things mechanical I greatly appreciate the fact there are others such as yourself who can make, repair and invent things and share by video with other like minded folk, hopefully to inspire a younger generation to carry on traditional skills in this "Snowflake" age. Regards R.
Wow that works great ! With the addition of some sort of indexing fixture on the lathe spindle you could use this tool to cut the lines on dials as well .
Great build and fun to watch. Been a machinist for over 25 years and have done this numerous times. Can be very tiring on the lathe for sure. Only thing I would recommend if anything would be slowing your reamers down quite a bit. Would give a lot better finish and last a lot longer. I know your machine aren't the type with lots of bottom end torque, but about 50% of drill speed is rule of thumb. Anyhow, great tool and great videos. Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant job, if I was to make one I'd silver solder a cap threaded to clamp slotting tool. And turn bar around 180 degrees so I could see when Ive got to starting depth then dial in to complete depth.
Hi and thank you very much for your comment! You have some good ideas. The clamping thing I didn't get I guess. How would you do it? Turning the tool by 180 degrees is a really good idea. Thanks :)
@@WeCanDoThatBetter , where you have your clamping screw for cutting tool. Silver solder on a some round bar same size of tool bar with a tapped hole for clamping screw (grub screw). What you have will spread (deform) slot.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter You're welcome; our members love your work. Let me know if you want a free premium forum membership, and you can post your videos on the forum whenever you want. We have many YTers on board.
Yes, this is a weak point. Perhaps I make a new clamping in the future without slotting the entire thing and making just a pocket for the cutting tool so that the grub screw has proper support. Thanks for the hint and comment!
Great video, I like how you make every part with accuracy. It would help a little if you put a gear motor with speed regulator instead of a handle. Thanks for sharing
Such a great idea, it beats my way by using a chuck in the tail stock and using a boring bar with cutter and sliding the tail stock back and forth, I have started to make a cam style key cutting tool that works with via an electric drill that mounts on to the tool post. Maybe an idea for a future project.
Thanks for your comment! Yes, a kind of motorized attachment would be great but I think more complicated and probably much bigger, so I decided to go the "analog" way first :)
Um instrumento para fazer rasgo para chavetas. Bem complexa a sua execução, mas com um acabamento primoroso e uma criatividade invejável. Não é para qualquer um. Parabéns!
Bravo. Wie immer eine perfekte Arbeit. Super wenn man die Werkzeuge selbst machen kann, nach eigenen Angaben. Mann kann ja manches bestellen, nur das muss man alles verbessern. Zur Zeit ist es so, egal was kommt, das kommt aus China und das musst du immer nachbessern. Manchmal sogar Kleinteile ersetzen. So versuche ich auch vieles selbst zu machen. Du hast super Ideen. Ich freue mich jedes Mal auf neue Videos von dir. Wenn ich ein paar Fragen habe, meinst du das vielleicht beantworten kannst? Ich meine falls du Zeit hast. Okay, ich wünsche dir alles gute und bleib gesund. Dennis.
Your new Proxxon mill is fantastic, these are quite expensive in Australia, you are very lucky to have it given to you 👍. One thing I have noticed is that your lathe and mill are not bolted down to anything sturdy? They seem to move around a bit? If they are bolted to a strong , heavy bench , the machine surfaces will be better 👍
I'd say that works really well! My only concern with one sided cutting tools on a lathe, especially a small one (similarly with the push style knurling wheels) is the high side load on spindle bearings. I was also unsure on the grub screw, I'm pretty sure a smaller grub on the side of the shank should hold well enough if you can find a way to register the tool on the rear of your slot, shouldn't be difficult with a tapered tool. Why does technical speak always sound so smutty!
Sehr schöne Arbeit. Bei dem Werkzeugaufnahmekopf hätte ich persönlich aber Bedenken. Ich hätte eine Tauchfräsung gemacht und die Verrundung vierkantig gefeilt, zumindest die Seite gegen die die Stossnadel läuft. Für mehr Stabilität in dem Kopf. Ansonsten Top.
Danke Dir. Ja, das wäre tatsächlich die bessere Vorgehensweise gewesen. Danke für die Anregung. So weit hab ich nicht gedacht :) Werde bei Zeiten einen neuen Halter machen. Dass man die Ecken ja auch mit der Feile rechtwinklig machen kann, hab ich irgendwie nicht auf dem Schirm gehabt :)
Nice work at the keyway tool, but the grub screw to hold the cutting insert look like a weak a point. Drill a hole and use pin mill to make slot in the cutting tool holder to insert the cutting tool and the grub screw has the whole around to hold the cutting tool firmly secured without expanding the cutting tool holder.
Hi and thanks for your comment! Yes, that is definitely the weak spot. For other keyway cutters I have to make a few more holders in the future. I will try to make them different so that the grub screw can not bend the part.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter You can use HSS round solid shaft instead HSS square or rectangel bar and drill hole to example 5 mm hole for 5 mm HSS round solid shaft instead make slotted hole and screw firmly with grub screw. Select the diameter as you desire and grind to the desired width adapted for the keyway. It take less work to make new tool with hole instead slotted hole. There are many diameters to choose from in both millimeters and inches when buying HSS round solid shaft.
The job you made is good one, I enjoyed the making of this video both parts.. But It could be more far better if some jobs had been done by highteck cnc machine.... As the Ellen screw on the top to fix the tool is the weakest part, I hate weak parts while tooling... The slotting done, If I've done that job i had did it in my style, I like the strongest made items, It's my way of thinking.... Grab Love from Agra India Suneel Kanda
wahnsinn , wunderschöne Arbeit was du da mit den maschinen lieferst! das ist grenzwertige spitzenklasse! viele würden sagen ohne top maschinen ist so etwas nicht möglich ! darf ich fragen was du machst ( beruflich , wo ist dein background )
Vielen Dank für dein Lob! Das freut mich, wenn meine Arbeit gefällt. Beruflich komme ich nicht aus der Ecke. Habe aber schon etliches an Erfahrung in diesem Bereich in unterschiedlichen Stationen sammeln können.
Thank you! I machined the bore in the position the tool is mounted later for operation. Thus it is automatically on centerheigth if mounted with a 2mm shim as during machining.
For keyways in shafts you most probably need a milling machine or kind of. This tool needs a free entrance and outlet for the chips of the tool. This is given when cutting keyways in holes such as pulleys, gears etc.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Is it possible that you could cut a keyway only on the part of the shaft needed by first using the parting tool to put a groove before and after the target keyway location? Just a thought for something to try so that a milling machine can be eliminated from this process.
Very impressive to see a button insert cutting smoothly in a mini lathe. Can I ask what brand of taps you use ? They seem to cut very well is all materials & produce great results.
Why bore backwards, with the work on the tool post and the tool on the spindle?? I imagine there’s a reason I’d never seen that technique on a lathe before.
Hi. That bore in the brass bushing had to be very accurate. With the cutting tool spinning in the lathes spindle I ensured, that the bore has the exact same diameter throughout the whole length and is parallel to the aluminium body and also on exact centerheight when I later use the keyway cutting tool. If I had done it the traditional way with boring bar in the toolpost and part in the lathe chuck, the bore might have turned out slightly conical and less accurate cause small misalignments in the lathes ways or spindlestock will get relevant. Hope, that is somehow understandable:)
I don't understand why the oil groove for the brass bushing is on the outside and not the inside, that oil filling port means you will be using a paste lubricant, right? Does the lubricant run off easily?
Hi and thanks for your comment. I will use oil for lubrication not grease. There are oilpumps for the fitting I used here. I didn't make it that clear in the video: The oilgroove is on the outside of the brass bushing so that the oil filled in can flow on the outside of the bushing around and enter on two points through little holes into the bushing and lubricate the plunger. I made these two holes off camera. But oilgrooves inside the bushings were also good, I will add them.
Ottimo lavoro ma, ritengo che la vite di tenuta del tagliente, non sia sufficientemente fissa; non so se con lavori sull'acciaio possa rimanere stabile.
You would be much better off using DIN7991 inbus screws rather than DIN912 ones for the toolpostclampingthingypart (or a handle as you have very well put it in English).
I don't have a native Deutsche Sprache either, as you could have already noticed in my accent. Thus, we're even! But that doesn't stop me from making fun at germanwordmakingapproach - so neither you should hesitate to speak English. Just get it check with a dictionary - or better yet, vocabulary - more often than not.
Broaches are very expensive and you need a set for every size you have to make. This tool is much more versatile as you can easily made new cutting bits in the desired size.
I'd say that works really well! My only concern with one sided cutting tools on a lathe, especially a small one (similarly with the push style knurling wheels) is the high side load on spindle bearings. I was also unsure on the grub screw, I'm pretty sure a smaller grub on the side of the shank should hold well enough if you can find a way to register the tool on the rear of your slot, shouldn't be difficult with a tapered tool. Why does technical speak always sound so smutty!
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The build was great…BEST PART IS THAT RED KNOB! A Chef’s Kiss!
*Talent, Fähigkeiten, Hingabe* - alles an einem Ort
Herzlichen Dank für das tolle Lob!! :) Freut mich, wenn es gefällt.
Your drilling skills are superb. 0:44
I used a milling machine to drill holes one day just to be lazy, but all the holes were misaligned, and the offset and direction were inconsistent.
After many tests I found out that my feed rate was incorrect and that there was still a chance to correct the bit before the taper angle was fully in the surface of the object.
You've totally earned the name, "We can do it" !!!!
Great job!
I love it! :)
Thank you very much! :) I really do appreciate that!
may be top 5 mini’s channel on yt. And low budget too. Great channel.
Thank you very much!
OMG I am so making one of these. Thank you for showing how you did it. Great work even while improvising when needed. Congrats on the new tools. New tools are always so exciting. 😀 I ❤new tools. (and old tools, LOL)
Thanks for your comment!
A very nice job. You should be proud of that!
Thank you so much!
Excellent tool and excellent project.Thank you.
Thank you very much!
Agree about the cutter mount grub screw, potential weak point if screw overtightened, however, a beautifully finished and very useful machine tool. Both the tool and the video presentation are a credit to the presenter.
Thank you so much for your kind feedback! I really do appreciate that!
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Thank you for your reply. As an old school retired engineer, with a lifelong passion for all things mechanical I greatly appreciate the fact there are others such as yourself who can make, repair and invent things and share by video with other like minded folk, hopefully to inspire a younger generation to carry on traditional skills in this "Snowflake" age. Regards R.
@@robhillman5957 Well said. Thanks a lot!
Wow that works great !
With the addition of some sort of indexing fixture on the lathe spindle you could use this tool to cut the lines on dials as well .
Great idea, is faster than moving saddle👍
Yes, that might work. Thanks!
Great build and fun to watch. Been a machinist for over 25 years and have done this numerous times. Can be very tiring on the lathe for sure. Only thing I would recommend if anything would be slowing your reamers down quite a bit. Would give a lot better finish and last a lot longer. I know your machine aren't the type with lots of bottom end torque, but about 50% of drill speed is rule of thumb. Anyhow, great tool and great videos. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent idea and another fine piece made with precision.
Thanks!
When using a reamer, try to turn it at half the speed of your similar size drill
Good quality of work you do. Big thumbs up
Steve.
Thanks a lot!
I like your videos. No chitty y hat just the processes.
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I really do appreciate your feedback!
Beautiful work, congratulations and thanks for posting.
I have watched a few of your vids already, but this is the one that made me hit the subscribe button.
Thank you so much! I really do appreciate your support!
Really amazed the finishes and tolerance you get on mini lathe. Regret selling my lathe but can see mini lathe in my future.
You can absolutely do some good work with it.
Sehr cool. Der kleine Flycutter hat etwas beruhigendes - mach doch mal Proxxon drauf aufmerksam - die finden den bestimmt auch klasse!
Haste recht....is´n goldich Teil. Aber bloss net Proxxon......dann kostet der Cutter 300 Euronen. :-)
nicely done , A good addition to your tools
Thank you very much!
Brilliant job, if I was to make one I'd silver solder a cap threaded to clamp slotting tool. And turn bar around 180 degrees so I could see when Ive got to starting depth then dial in to complete depth.
Hi and thank you very much for your comment! You have some good ideas. The clamping thing I didn't get I guess. How would you do it? Turning the tool by 180 degrees is a really good idea. Thanks :)
@@WeCanDoThatBetter , where you have your clamping screw for cutting tool. Silver solder on a some round bar same size of tool bar with a tapped hole for clamping screw (grub screw). What you have will spread (deform) slot.
Fabuloso dispositivo maestro muchas gracias por brindarnos sus conocimientos 👍
Bravo ! - Fantastic work ! - Well done 👍 👌
Great work as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Thank you very much for sharing my work! I really do appreciate that!
@@WeCanDoThatBetter You're welcome; our members love your work. Let me know if you want a free premium forum membership, and you can post your videos on the forum whenever you want. We have many YTers on board.
grub screw to hold the cutting insert look like a weak a point....other then that .. a very nice build....👍
I agree but from the results all I can say Is good job.
Probably still more sturdy than the actual Chinese lathe. Lol. Hopefully your endeavours pay off and all the best for the future
Thanks:)
Yes, this is a weak point. Perhaps I make a new clamping in the future without slotting the entire thing and making just a pocket for the cutting tool so that the grub screw has proper support. Thanks for the hint and comment!
Yes I think that should have been a hole then broached square or filed square to take the cutter.
What a great tool. Well done!
Thanks!
Great video, I like how you make every part with accuracy.
It would help a little if you put a gear motor with speed regulator instead of a handle.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your comment!
That worked out really well! Really clever how you use your lathe, and make tools to make new tools. As always: great video!
Thanks!
You certainly are doing better 🤘🏻
Such a great idea, it beats my way by using a chuck in the tail stock and using a boring bar with cutter and sliding the tail stock back and forth,
I have started to make a cam style key cutting tool that works with via an electric drill that mounts on to the tool post.
Maybe an idea for a future project.
Thanks for your comment! Yes, a kind of motorized attachment would be great but I think more complicated and probably much bigger, so I decided to go the "analog" way first :)
Beautiful tool!
Fein gemacht. Sehr schön geworden :)
Dankeschön! :)
Great tool bro! I like your works 👍💫👍
Thank you very much!
Um instrumento para fazer rasgo para chavetas. Bem complexa a sua execução, mas com um acabamento primoroso e uma criatividade invejável. Não é para qualquer um. Parabéns!
Muito muito obrigado!!
Great build! Nice parts fit.
Thanks for sharing,
Cheers
Thank my friend!
Bravo. Wie immer eine perfekte Arbeit. Super wenn man die Werkzeuge selbst machen kann, nach eigenen Angaben. Mann kann ja manches bestellen, nur das muss man alles verbessern. Zur Zeit ist es so, egal was kommt, das kommt aus China und das musst du immer nachbessern. Manchmal sogar Kleinteile ersetzen. So versuche ich auch vieles selbst zu machen.
Du hast super Ideen. Ich freue mich jedes Mal auf neue Videos von dir. Wenn ich ein paar Fragen habe, meinst du das vielleicht beantworten kannst? Ich meine falls du Zeit hast.
Okay, ich wünsche dir alles gute und bleib gesund.
Dennis.
Vielen Dank für die netten Worte! Das freut mich, wenn es gefällt :) Auch alles Gute
I enjoyed this video.
Thank you very much!
Your new Proxxon mill is fantastic, these are quite expensive in Australia, you are very lucky to have it given to you 👍. One thing I have noticed is that your lathe and mill are not bolted down to anything sturdy? They seem to move around a bit?
If they are bolted to a strong , heavy bench , the machine surfaces will be better 👍
Thanks for your comment! Yes both machines aren't bolted to the bench. That would be probably better yes.
Nice work. Well done.
Thank you very much!
aaah what a beautiful project! Viele Grüße ;)
Dankeschön :)
I'd say that works really well! My only concern with one sided cutting tools on a lathe, especially a small one (similarly with the push style knurling wheels) is the high side load on spindle bearings. I was also unsure on the grub screw, I'm pretty sure a smaller grub on the side of the shank should hold well enough if you can find a way to register the tool on the rear of your slot, shouldn't be difficult with a tapered tool.
Why does technical speak always sound so smutty!
Sehr schöne Arbeit. Bei dem Werkzeugaufnahmekopf hätte ich persönlich aber Bedenken.
Ich hätte eine Tauchfräsung gemacht und die Verrundung vierkantig gefeilt, zumindest die Seite gegen die die Stossnadel läuft. Für mehr Stabilität in dem Kopf. Ansonsten Top.
Danke Dir. Ja, das wäre tatsächlich die bessere Vorgehensweise gewesen. Danke für die Anregung. So weit hab ich nicht gedacht :) Werde bei Zeiten einen neuen Halter machen. Dass man die Ecken ja auch mit der Feile rechtwinklig machen kann, hab ich irgendwie nicht auf dem Schirm gehabt :)
Nice work at the keyway tool, but the grub screw to hold the cutting insert look like a weak a point. Drill a hole and use pin mill to make slot in the cutting tool holder to insert the cutting tool and the grub screw has the whole around to hold the cutting tool firmly secured without expanding the cutting tool holder.
Hi and thanks for your comment! Yes, that is definitely the weak spot. For other keyway cutters I have to make a few more holders in the future. I will try to make them different so that the grub screw can not bend the part.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter You can use HSS round solid shaft instead HSS square or rectangel bar and drill hole to example 5 mm hole for 5 mm HSS round solid shaft instead make slotted hole and screw firmly with grub screw. Select the diameter as you desire and grind to the desired width adapted for the keyway. It take less work to make new tool with hole instead slotted hole. There are many diameters to choose from in both millimeters and inches when buying HSS round solid shaft.
Excellent ! Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing 👍
The job you made is good one, I enjoyed the making of this video both parts..
But
It could be more far better if some jobs had been done by highteck cnc machine....
As the Ellen screw on the top to fix the tool is the weakest part, I hate weak parts while tooling...
The slotting done, If I've done that job i had did it in my style,
I like the strongest made items,
It's my way of thinking....
Grab Love from Agra India
Suneel Kanda
Holy Moly ! Wow 🤩
wahnsinn , wunderschöne Arbeit was du da mit den maschinen lieferst! das ist grenzwertige spitzenklasse! viele würden sagen ohne top maschinen ist so etwas nicht möglich ! darf ich fragen was du machst ( beruflich , wo ist dein background )
Vielen Dank für dein Lob! Das freut mich, wenn meine Arbeit gefällt. Beruflich komme ich nicht aus der Ecke. Habe aber schon etliches an Erfahrung in diesem Bereich in unterschiedlichen Stationen sammeln können.
Good work
Thank you and congratulations for this achievement. Could you give me the references of the three products you use for cold bluying?
Thanks for your comment! The coldbluing is a set from Ballistol. A little plastic case with could bluing solution, degreaser spray and oil spray.
That is slick….
Ferramenta amigo muito boa hein grande abraço fique com Deus👌👊💞
Grazie per il bel commento!
crazy! o.O
finde ich echt gut!
Vielen Dank!
Very good video, how do you know it's central when you set it up?
Thank you! I machined the bore in the position the tool is mounted later for operation. Thus it is automatically on centerheigth if mounted with a 2mm shim as during machining.
Very nice tool🦾
If insert screw being lose, or bending try to make small titanium ring and put on tip of the rod
Great Tool !! Thanks for showing us the process and take better care of your knucles darling, there is blood around.
I would really like to see if this tool could be used to put a keyway into a shaft
For keyways in shafts you most probably need a milling machine or kind of. This tool needs a free entrance and outlet for the chips of the tool. This is given when cutting keyways in holes such as pulleys, gears etc.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Is it possible that you could cut a keyway only on the part of the shaft needed by first using the parting tool to put a groove before and after the target keyway location? Just a thought for something to try so that a milling machine can be eliminated from this process.
Very impressive to see a button insert cutting smoothly in a mini lathe.
Can I ask what brand of taps you use ? They seem to cut very well is all materials & produce great results.
The taps are Ruko M3-M12 set.
Nice video👍 the next job is the drillpres table it moving a lot when you dril 😒
Impressive
Bravissimooo
لكم الأحترام والشكر
Awesome job! What kind of depth of cut were you using per stroke?
Thank you. It was between 0,025 and 0,05mm per stroke I guess.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter thanks!
Wow. Brilliant. Do any drawings exist for this build please?
Thank you very much. Not yet, but I consider that.
Yes sir. 👍🏻
Absolutely amazing
Unnamed part I would name as pivot arm or pivot member.
Thanks for your help! :)
this is a movie , not a video.
super
this machine is an little proxxon mill? I see that it cutting good the little ships nice video
Yes it is a proxxon milling machine.
Why bore backwards, with the work on the tool post and the tool on the spindle?? I imagine there’s a reason I’d never seen that technique on a lathe before.
Hi. That bore in the brass bushing had to be very accurate. With the cutting tool spinning in the lathes spindle I ensured, that the bore has the exact same diameter throughout the whole length and is parallel to the aluminium body and also on exact centerheight when I later use the keyway cutting tool. If I had done it the traditional way with boring bar in the toolpost and part in the lathe chuck, the bore might have turned out slightly conical and less accurate cause small misalignments in the lathes ways or spindlestock will get relevant. Hope, that is somehow understandable:)
How well does it work with a drill chuck?
I don't understand why the oil groove for the brass bushing is on the outside and not the inside, that oil filling port means you will be using a paste lubricant, right? Does the lubricant run off easily?
Hi and thanks for your comment. I will use oil for lubrication not grease. There are oilpumps for the fitting I used here. I didn't make it that clear in the video: The oilgroove is on the outside of the brass bushing so that the oil filled in can flow on the outside of the bushing around and enter on two points through little holes into the bushing and lubricate the plunger. I made these two holes off camera. But oilgrooves inside the bushings were also good, I will add them.
Did you learn to use the lathe and the mill alone??
我在中国深圳做车铣CNC加工的，请问怎么找欧美机械加工订单？
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👍👍👍😀😀😀
Ottimo lavoro ma, ritengo che la vite di tenuta del tagliente, non sia sufficientemente fissa; non so se con lavori sull'acciaio possa rimanere stabile.
Thanks for the comment! Yes I have some doubts too about the screw. Perhaps I have to make a new one with a better more stable clamping.
You would be much better off using DIN7991 inbus screws rather than DIN912 ones for the toolpostclampingthingypart (or a handle as you have very well put it in English).
Thanks for the feedback. I consider that. As I'm no native english speaker, I hesitate to speak ;)
I don't have a native Deutsche Sprache either, as you could have already noticed in my accent. Thus, we're even!
But that doesn't stop me from making fun at germanwordmakingapproach - so neither you should hesitate to speak English. Just get it check with a dictionary - or better yet, vocabulary - more often than not.
💪💪💪👍👍👍
I suddenly had an overwhelming desire for a cigarette.......😅
Призмы станины не предназначены для такого вида инструмента и работ
Dónde lo compro
👍👍👍 ❣❣❣
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Why wouldn't you just use broaches ??
Broaches are very expensive and you need a set for every size you have to make. This tool is much more versatile as you can easily made new cutting bits in the desired size.
Those magnetized steel slivers on the mill are SOOO ANNOYING, happens all the time with my mill.
Oh yes, that's really annoying :)
be better if you narrated it instead of captions
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Can we use it on women too?
Please talk so we can understand what's going on
hm, I consider it. But as I'm no native english speaker I hesitate to do narrations.
Ms cutting
I'd say that works really well! My only concern with one sided cutting tools on a lathe, especially a small one (similarly with the push style knurling wheels) is the high side load on spindle bearings. I was also unsure on the grub screw, I'm pretty sure a smaller grub on the side of the shank should hold well enough if you can find a way to register the tool on the rear of your slot, shouldn't be difficult with a tapered tool.
Why does technical speak always sound so smutty!