Wish I could've been there participating with you both using my deep feral build. But with not hearing about the tourney until 2 days in I had to still deal with full shifts at work and with the lack of sleep, I died at 52 and then 59 right before qualifying time. 😅 My first memory of Peaceblade was one night on the Skyfury server not many people were online and we were just RP walking around in Dalaran in our classic marshal PvP gear. Didn't know he was a streamer at the time though. Was awesome to see you play so well on a hunter knowing you were a Pally main. @PeaceBladeTV
Hitting ignore on that idiot's spam whispers while dueling a top end rogue and friend that knows how you duel is absolutely priceless. My money is on you winning it all.
lmao that was hilarious Ziqo fast ignored someone after the poly, he was actually noticing the whisper contents! I wouldn't even notice these while pvp
I know this a joke but for anyone confused, he isn't the real Kargoz. He has same name as a troll kargoz imposter that tried to grief people on live unofficial servers. He would kite anvilrage overseers to streamers and starting zones. Tl:Dr not real kargoz
@@seniorjrr remember biblebilly and sharpish? Biblebilly was an infernal griefer and sharpish would flag and invis on flight masters in booty bay xD I'm glad the age of griefing and trolling is over with official servers, but those guys will certainly live on in infamy!
@@DivineBanana i remember it too well, but it was sharpish who was the infernal griefer. He got me in menethil harbor. Some griefers are objectively funny - but sharpish was just depressive as f man. His whole persona was just super sad.
@@seniorjrr I think he had alt rogues. He killed me in booty bay, might have been SharpishX or something like that but I still have my appeal up in the discord xD and yea I agree it was so pointless because anyone could appeal them with just combat log, they were so infamous by name mods would understand (my death was appealed by combat log because of course it was the one time I wasn't recording)
This is the same guy that perma griefed on Bloodsail Buccaneers prior to official Hardcore, so he's literally been doing this kind of stuff for years. Sad existence
Rogue v Mage is sadly always like this. Mage pretty much has to make a blunder for the rogue to have a chance. Otherwise the rotation of CDs always favors the mage. Ziqqo is just too good to make those mistakes.
@@DivineBanana I would say Ziqo is more used to latency in classic compare to Pshero but details, having latency as a mage is not as bad as latency as a rogue, since if your muscle memory make you fail to vanish a sheep because of Latency its over, a single mistake and you are done as a rogue Vs a good mage, the mage can fuck up few times and not feel it.
Ziqo, I've got a question, mate. Why don't you cast max rank fireball into r1 frostbolt on a full sheep instead of opening with just max fb? I've never seen mages do it nowadays and it's really strange because I used to use it always when I believed the rogue had vanish. Fireball dmg is as good as frostbolt's as a frost mage, and the 1 sec delay in slow application is worth it if your fireball dot breaks vanish. For example, if you opened fireball at 4:00 you wouldn't have had to rely on r1 bliz hitting the target. On 1:17 a fireball opener would have stopped the crippling poison application. It's weird to me because iirc it was a very standard thing to do back in original vanilla, and I still don't see a downside unless people have calculated that there is a significant disadvantage to that 1 sec delay for the slow - I can see one in cases where for example a fap can be used when a fireball is coming to completely negate the root, and that might be significant, but I do think that this can also be counted in the calculation (so use fireball when vanish not on CD but fap on cd for example). Aside from that, great duels, man, you're my favourite player in this tournament and I hope you win this!
The rules state that he has to re open within one min even if he gets the vanish off. In the open world a rogue can afk in stealth forever so it’s more important. The duel is about surviving the CDs, if you’re full HP and the rogue gets restealth it’s in the Mages favour. Getting a clean rocket helm (for a full reset) is much more important than preventing vanish with fireball. You saw Pshero VS Mes? He couldn’t blind/dust/helm because he used rupture and he ended up dying. Need to be very careful with dots when those consumes are allowed, they win you the duel when used right. And as someone else mentioned: greater fire prot pot, requires a lot of mana to break both shields.
Glad to find your channel via this tournament. I don't play anymore but all this vanilla content makes me think about the good times with my friends so many years ago.
This was one of the hypest days for world of warcraft fucking ever. Of course being a priest I was full on cheering for hydra, but I was legit bouncing between like 5 peoples streams that day. This was so fun to watch. Ready for today.
2 titans at it again! Great duel! BUT on this day. THE BLACK LIZARD rules with a 5-0 day! POGGERS IN THE LAIR! Tomorrow, is D Day! Let's go take this title down!
thats why its stupid..if you arent a streamer and people dont help you all the time you cant do shit in this..with all these buffs and pots and gold..and normal people cant play 14+h per day so you cant farm all day..
@@Diac13 dude that's because they were hella carried to get all that gear. Pshero is way too undergeared compared to these guys and he's playing rogue on high latency.
It's the polymorph into drinking/eating that wins the game for mages, something which I would have fixed right away as a developer and game designer. Polymorph shouldn't take you out of combat, that's failed design.
I was bouncing between OTK stream, Pshero, and yours. After Pshero first duel he was praying he wouldn't get matched with you 😂 you've already won this bro. They all scared
@@Diac13 He is not faultless, no. But, what he is... Is one of the best players of all time, playing as arguably the best dueling class that he is the best at out of perhaps all players, with the best gear and best tools 🤣 He'll probably win
I used to be one of these pvp leaders. og. Dark spear pvp server. Epic .. the pvp groups and working way through 2 and 3s arena and recognizing top players realizing your in the glory age of wow PvP 20 years later
I'm so confused... how is this Mak'Gora on a HC server but no one is dying 🤔🤔 Someone explain? Also where is this area that's so flat and devoid of any features (hills/flaura/etc ?)
This was qualify day, they had 5 duels to see who made the cut for Mak'Gora tomorrow. As for terrain, they are probably under Stormwind or some other out of bounds location to prevent griefing.
Feels like Rogues are less dominant in this format than in other Classic dueling scenarios. The full consumable stacks really spike durability and make it easier to bleed their timers without getting exploded.
GG! on the duel. took me 3 mins to realise the spam in the chat ... people are so into prooving life isnt always an evolution. They love to proove that sometimes degeneration happens.
Ziqo my friend you should know ur place 🤓 The bulgarian sniper is in a league of his own , and he got your number . Just like some athletes got other athletes number .
Ziqo literally explained how the vanish wouldn’t have ended the duel 😂 this duel had full consumables ziqo was not dying to one stun lock, all rogues struggled in this tourney because people were too tanky etc
If two players duel and are playing different classes, given that their skill is more or less equal it is often decided who will win beforehand. Not always though, you might get lucky with crits and resists. My guess is that in the end duels there will only be warlocks, priests, and mages left.
That guy spamming in Ziqos chat lmaaaao Also, how come you don't utilize rank 1 auto cast blizzard more? Wouldn't it be easier to predict when he comes out of poly and either vanishes or restealths? Edit: Actually nvm, rank 1 auto-cast Blizzard prediction won him the duel.
Was dope playing with you during the tournament Ziqo. You’re a chill dude, made a fan out of me!
GGs peace was fun gearing together bro
Ayo the SOM homie. Big Z is the goat, welcome to the lair ❤
PEACEBLADE. God damnit dude I was trying to remember your name from the original classic duel tournaments and kept thinking Peacebloom. Ur a monster
Haha, cheers man. competed in this one as well but did not do as hot! Appreciate the kind words!@@rumham7631
Wish I could've been there participating with you both using my deep feral build. But with not hearing about the tourney until 2 days in I had to still deal with full shifts at work and with the lack of sleep, I died at 52 and then 59 right before qualifying time. 😅
My first memory of Peaceblade was one night on the Skyfury server not many people were online and we were just RP walking around in Dalaran in our classic marshal PvP gear. Didn't know he was a streamer at the time though. Was awesome to see you play so well on a hunter knowing you were a Pally main. @PeaceBladeTV
I love the friendship you and Pshero have, so funny man 😂❤
Hitting ignore on that idiot's spam whispers while dueling a top end rogue and friend that knows how you duel is absolutely priceless. My money is on you winning it all.
lmao that was hilarious Ziqo fast ignored someone after the poly, he was actually noticing the whisper contents! I wouldn't even notice these while pvp
@@tl1539i didnt even notice this happening at all lmao
top end rogue xDDDDDD ps hero is dogshit
pay up
Beating a sl lock? Doubtful. Sl lock will win it all mark my words.
I love the “married couple arguments” ya both have towards each other, but it’s love at the end of the day.
Awesome work brother!
props to kargozlol for spreading his message of love for our viewing pleasure
I know this a joke but for anyone confused, he isn't the real Kargoz. He has same name as a troll kargoz imposter that tried to grief people on live unofficial servers. He would kite anvilrage overseers to streamers and starting zones.
Tl:Dr not real kargoz
@@DivineBananaAnvilrage overseer **drags cigarette** it's been a long time since I've heard that name
@@seniorjrr remember biblebilly and sharpish? Biblebilly was an infernal griefer and sharpish would flag and invis on flight masters in booty bay xD I'm glad the age of griefing and trolling is over with official servers, but those guys will certainly live on in infamy!
@@DivineBanana i remember it too well, but it was sharpish who was the infernal griefer. He got me in menethil harbor. Some griefers are objectively funny - but sharpish was just depressive as f man. His whole persona was just super sad.
@@seniorjrr I think he had alt rogues. He killed me in booty bay, might have been SharpishX or something like that but I still have my appeal up in the discord xD and yea I agree it was so pointless because anyone could appeal them with just combat log, they were so infamous by name mods would understand (my death was appealed by combat log because of course it was the one time I wasn't recording)
Alright that blizzard had me in awe. I’m like wtf are you doing throwing it in that direction? *opponent was stealth walking exactly to that spot*😂
What a big accomplishmen for that guy spamming in char.A round of applause 👏
U mean the fucking wispers? man how can ppl behave like that wtf...
@@bartoplaysgames6402 Because, unfortunately, most people are complete retards. Worldwide average IQ is around 80, so yeah fucking retards everywhere.
Indeed 😂 imagine having such little enjoyable moments in life you have to become so toxic to spamm this on stream 😅 its actually really sad
@@bartoplaysgames6402 Easy, it's funny. Get over yourself.
This is the same guy that perma griefed on Bloodsail Buccaneers prior to official Hardcore, so he's literally been doing this kind of stuff for years. Sad existence
That mid-duel ignore was the biggest flex 😂GG!
Was great to see you two duel, even though it was kinda decided at the start who would win. You both are amazing to watch
regarding these two, it was kinda decided because of the class each one is playing, not skill
Also Ps has 165_170 ms and that is a lot for competitive rogue duels
@@ManoManovso did ziqo. He was also at 170-180
Rogue v Mage is sadly always like this. Mage pretty much has to make a blunder for the rogue to have a chance. Otherwise the rotation of CDs always favors the mage. Ziqqo is just too good to make those mistakes.
@@DivineBanana I would say Ziqo is more used to latency in classic compare to Pshero but details, having latency as a mage is not as bad as latency as a rogue, since if your muscle memory make you fail to vanish a sheep because of Latency its over, a single mistake and you are done as a rogue Vs a good mage, the mage can fuck up few times and not feel it.
The clutch ‘ignore’ on the hate speech mid duel. Love your work Ziqo.
@@MC-nt7jzLiterally what it is
@@MC-nt7jzthat's literally what it is, I'm sorry for you if you agree with that deranged dude
@@MC-nt7jz
Found the inçel
@@MC-nt7jzdrop dead
clutch ignore on the troll misspelling two mean words
yo arent they suppose to die when duelled? I didnt follow the tournament much but I remember reading the rules when it was annouced
Ziqo, I've got a question, mate.
Why don't you cast max rank fireball into r1 frostbolt on a full sheep instead of opening with just max fb?
I've never seen mages do it nowadays and it's really strange because I used to use it always when I believed the rogue had vanish.
Fireball dmg is as good as frostbolt's as a frost mage, and the 1 sec delay in slow application is worth it if your fireball dot breaks vanish.
For example, if you opened fireball at 4:00 you wouldn't have had to rely on r1 bliz hitting the target. On 1:17 a fireball opener would have stopped the crippling poison application.
It's weird to me because iirc it was a very standard thing to do back in original vanilla, and I still don't see a downside unless people have calculated that there is a significant disadvantage to that 1 sec delay for the slow - I can see one in cases where for example a fap can be used when a fireball is coming to completely negate the root, and that might be significant, but I do think that this can also be counted in the calculation (so use fireball when vanish not on CD but fap on cd for example).
Aside from that, great duels, man, you're my favourite player in this tournament and I hope you win this!
the only thing i can think of is if the opponent has both fire and frost prot pots, gotta focus one element
@@dridda9117 Ah, right, that's also a thing. I'm not used to considering consumables for pvp as they weren't a thing back then on a regular basis...
Im also wondering why they r not using firebolt
The rules state that he has to re open within one min even if he gets the vanish off. In the open world a rogue can afk in stealth forever so it’s more important.
The duel is about surviving the CDs, if you’re full HP and the rogue gets restealth it’s in the Mages favour.
Getting a clean rocket helm (for a full reset) is much more important than preventing vanish with fireball. You saw Pshero VS Mes? He couldn’t blind/dust/helm because he used rupture and he ended up dying. Need to be very careful with dots when those consumes are allowed, they win you the duel when used right. And as someone else mentioned: greater fire prot pot, requires a lot of mana to break both shields.
Where do they duel? I don't know about such a plain area in EPL!
Glad to find your channel via this tournament. I don't play anymore but all this vanilla content makes me think about the good times with my friends so many years ago.
This was one of the hypest days for world of warcraft fucking ever. Of course being a priest I was full on cheering for hydra, but I was legit bouncing between like 5 peoples streams that day. This was so fun to watch. Ready for today.
That level one that thinks he's the main character standing in the middle of the duel PISSES ME OFF
Wanna be referee lookin ahh
It's the cameraman/admin
Can anybody tell me what AddOn is showing Ziqos enemy's cooldowns like that? Also what addon is he using to swap gear/trinkets too? >:(
Which addon is this which shows the damage icebarrier will absorb?
Is firestar gonna join the makgora tournament?
Ziqo are u in the finals and streaming??
Whats the shield health addon?
Did you make a pact with pshero to split the winnings if either if you wins? Thats what i would do
pshero didnt stand a chance tbh so it would be a bad bet
Can anyone tell me what the loading bar UI thing is indicating?
2:00 what a gamer
Why? What he do?
What's that bar in the centre supposed to mean, I really can't tell?
How much absorb is left on the shields
@@Ziqoftw Ahh, thank you.
where are the brackets? 100 k prize pool should have a website or smth to see participants, wins/losses, this looks so obscure
Anyone know what that addon to the right of Ziqo's character is?
was pshero not qualfied for the finals?
2 titans at it again! Great duel! BUT on this day. THE BLACK LIZARD rules with a 5-0 day! POGGERS IN THE LAIR! Tomorrow, is D Day! Let's go take this title down!
Your ability to perform under pressure is unmatched
i've never been so in between as who to root for love both of you guys
My ❤ was racing watching this live, looking forward to the final today!!
Hey, when will the finals start?
How was pshero's gear? I do know ziqo was kinda no lifing so im sure he had the best possible gear.
Pshero gear is good but not best.
Pshero made it alone without groupies to carry so yes his is definitly low gear
thats why its stupid..if you arent a streamer and people dont help you all the time you cant do shit in this..with all these buffs and pots and gold..and normal people cant play 14+h per day so you cant farm all day..
Kinda sad Pshero has high ping. Good duel nontheless
You guys should fly everyone to blizzards headquarters in Anaheim then use their computers and do the tournament, no lag no excuses 😂
Pshero will still always be my favorite rogue player. You two have been the most entertaining to watch in tourney
Watch the Savix vs Ziqo duel, even more entertaining.
@@Diac13THAT was freaking CRAZY bro… Yeah, I have to agree! I still love the friendship these guys have.
Savix and Ziqo both were carried, Pshero wasn't. @@Diac13
@@-Scotty bro you cant imagine how many people in chat were saying pshero was carried. Liars EVERYWHERE
@@Diac13 dude that's because they were hella carried to get all that gear. Pshero is way too undergeared compared to these guys and he's playing rogue on high latency.
It's the polymorph into drinking/eating that wins the game for mages, something which I would have fixed right away as a developer and game designer.
Polymorph shouldn't take you out of combat, that's failed design.
I love watching both pshero and ziqo. Big gz!
Guy in the whispers is the french guy who tried to do ziqo dirty lol
You win this bro 💪🏼 I'm rooting for you !
why in this duel and last ziqo looks like he purposely lets him go stealth several times?
Bro, this was a bit emotional to watch live! Love you both and how you handled it! Keep it up Lord Z
Z Z Ziqo Powaa Z Z Z
Esp watching pshero POV he was SALTY about the lag lol. Understandabley so, EU players were at a big disadvantage here
@@DivineBanana I’m also from EU and I had even higher MS. Probably still worse for a melee though. Nothing but love and respect for Pshero
@@Ziqoftw love and respect to the both of ya, it was tough for you EU players.
both are top smart players in this tournament, good luck guys
Oh look, ziqo is dueling another sheep
Wow both playing is incredible. Breaking pshero stealth with blizzard and him ready with rocket boots was insane.
I was bouncing between OTK stream, Pshero, and yours. After Pshero first duel he was praying he wouldn't get matched with you 😂 you've already won this bro. They all scared
If Sonii beats Snutz today, Ziqo will win the tournament
@@benofjarmin2833 Not so sure my friend. Ziqo will not be faultless forever. Savix and Pshero can easily take a win from him if anything goes wrong.
@@Diac13 He is not faultless, no. But, what he is... Is one of the best players of all time, playing as arguably the best dueling class that he is the best at out of perhaps all players, with the best gear and best tools 🤣 He'll probably win
Stomped by lock
I used to be one of these pvp leaders. og. Dark spear pvp server. Epic .. the pvp groups and working way through 2 and 3s arena and recognizing top players realizing your in the glory age of wow PvP 20 years later
I really hope to see you two at the end! Love you both
lol remember the mak'gora, sit down and we are doing my strat lol
I'm so confused... how is this Mak'Gora on a HC server but no one is dying 🤔🤔 Someone explain? Also where is this area that's so flat and devoid of any features (hills/flaura/etc ?)
This was qualify day, they had 5 duels to see who made the cut for Mak'Gora tomorrow.
As for terrain, they are probably under Stormwind or some other out of bounds location to prevent griefing.
@@soulcatchOk thank you, but my question is, how are they not perma dying after the duels? Sorry if I'm missing the obvious
@@Airbag888 there is 2 type of duel on HC server, normal duel that stop at 1 hp, and mak gora, duel to death, you can choose
@@clmtncd8750That's what I was missing :D I had the impression all duels were to the death on HC 😅 Thank you!
That subtle roast towards the end 😂
Love you Ziqo you'll win it brother, damn Kargoz with the spam in chat.
Fake kargoz imposter
"If my vanish goes off on that sheep, you're dead"
Ziqo: "uhhhhh heheheh GG BRO"
Feels like Rogues are less dominant in this format than in other Classic dueling scenarios. The full consumable stacks really spike durability and make it easier to bleed their timers without getting exploded.
*for a Frost Mage, that is, since forever kiting isn't an option for every class/spec. Imagine being stuck in melee with anything? Hard life.
Idk the normal rules but seems just as hard for mages when anyone can bring like 5k frost absorb with potions and trinkets, on top of flat MR buffs.
Oh, for sure, it doesn't help Mages either. No idea what anyone does against a geared SL Lock in this format.
@@nim998lose 😂
this was like Yugi vs Joey in the big tourna 😭
casting frostbolt and ignoring a hater and win the duel
"On EU u die here" LMAO
The edit where you trash him while being interviewed by OTK is golden! PS was expecting this when you were live... Nice duel guys!
GG! on the duel.
took me 3 mins to realise the spam in the chat ... people are so into prooving life isnt always an evolution. They love to proove that sometimes degeneration happens.
Awesome match! Good luck tomorrow
vs who?
why dont they mc to get kings if buffs are allowed
Only mage with 5/5, you were from start of my favorite, i hope you Rock this shit today 😊
Ziqo came to win, he's going home with 1st!
Are you peering over at his stream? xD
I was there!!!! 2023 history was made!
This is the combo ive been waiting to see
Pshero applying crippling poison mid duel in qualifiers against ziqo 😂 😂😂
What a duel, hope you will win the tourny ! Keep it real!
Crazy duels yesterday ziqo very impressive
Music too loud Ziqo 😞
looking comfy ziqo
Most entertaining part of this was the whispers haha, based.
I don't see how he can lose the tournament, honestly!
God mage. Reason I still play mage one day I’ll be a fraction as good as him. lol.
I've always dreamed of being as good as you 2. Great content!
Was rooting for both of u, get it
If SL warlock didn't exist I would say Ziqo is a Shoe in for the Winner.
Ziqo my friend you should know ur place 🤓 The bulgarian sniper is in a league of his own , and he got your number . Just like some athletes got other athletes number .
I hope you reported that guy spamming profanity in your DMs during the fight
so hard to watch sometimes. I can feel the frustration from pshero just trying to waddle towards a frost mage the whole duel lol
So much fun! And the big 5-0 :)
imagine if this was EU server, that vanish would of been the end of the duel, pshero would be playing on 150-200 latency
Ziqo literally explained how the vanish wouldn’t have ended the duel 😂 this duel had full consumables ziqo was not dying to one stun lock, all rogues struggled in this tourney because people were too tanky etc
That hatter in chat made me laugh he knew ziqo was busy dueling
If two players duel and are playing different classes, given that their skill is more or less equal it is often decided who will win beforehand. Not always though, you might get lucky with crits and resists. My guess is that in the end duels there will only be warlocks, priests, and mages left.
Bro this is classic, you underestimate the power of rng
Ziqo had much better gear for its level though, he is way more prepared for this tournament than Pshero is and ziqo knows this
"prepared" by hundreds of dick suckers
@@derel5880
the casters were all getting shit on during quali though? warriors were just walking all over people
wonder if pshero will blame lag , buffs or game this time
“GG brother” “On EU you lose there” 😂😂😂
Man, Kargoz has changed.
Was that for real lol?
Kargo needs to consult with a mental institution
dude is probably playing from inside one 😂
you made fan out of me but that vanish was rly bs :D
The guy spamming the chat was so cringe. Glad you were able to ignore him mid duel, haha! GG!
That guy spamming in Ziqos chat lmaaaao
Also, how come you don't utilize rank 1 auto cast blizzard more? Wouldn't it be easier to predict when he comes out of poly and either vanishes or restealths? Edit: Actually nvm, rank 1 auto-cast Blizzard prediction won him the duel.
No. Tenía el duelo ganado, solo estaba abusando y. Lo sabía.
damn you cut out the part where u dumped all over him in voice comms
idk I think all Ziqo's duels leading up to the final were more exciting than the actual final
The two of you are my favourite wowlords, hope y'all keep at it til old and grey and you remind him always until then Ziqo.
Lets goooooo!!!
Melee gets way more punished for lag. Im with pshero in this one
Big Z, it would be crazy if Ps kill you in the Mak'Gora, then I can't imagine how much he will spam you.
Make love not Warcraft! :D GG
i bet you miss amsterdam all that silver haze (: