2021 Toyota Sienna LE AWD Real Owner Review and Issues. Toyota Sienna Hybrid
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2021
- This is a 2021 Toyota Sienna Review and Issues
This Toyota Sienna might be for sale soon.
It is a Toyota Minivan AWD LED
Thule Force XT XL Mounted On 2021 Toyota Sienna
Taking a look at all new 2021 Toyota Sienna LE Hybrid AWD
Comparing 2021 Sienna LE vs XLE: - Авто та транспорт
Finally, a review showing real issues, instead of telling how many cup holders there are. Thanks!
Thank you for a real owner review. I have a 2010 and 2013 Odyssey and love them both but was interested in the new Sienna. You have shown me that I need to hold onto my Honda's. Clearly much better build quality vs new Sienna but that can be said regarding most new cars these days.
I own an LE version and in my opinion this is the best car in that range considering maintenance,resale,Fuel efficiency and what not.Few things Toyota could have done better like Daniel mentioned but it is still the best car in this segment.Go for it.I also didn’t spend too much money going with high variant of this model since it is still a van.
I admire your enthusiasm. But objectively looking, Odyssey or Pacifica are better made cars. It is surprising that Toyota decreases the quality of its models year after year, and not the cheapest ones. Compact class cars in Europe are definitely better made, I know what I'm saying, I'm a Toyota employee...
@@sebastianwitkowski1706what’s the point of “better made” if your Honda or Pacifica aren’t as reliable as Toyota? Hands down Toyota is the best even Honda still have a bunch of report for transmission failures. If you are going to keep a car for a few years, yes get a Honda but if you want to keep for 10yrs plus Toyota no doubt
Thank you so much for the clip. It was very informative and I cannot appreciate you enough.
OMG. lucky i came across this video. I was looking at the 2022 model which is the same as this. Big thank you for this video. now i have to rethink my choices. This is the kind of review i'm looking for. 🙏🙏
Wow thank you so much for making this video and sharing this information. I was really considering a Toyota sienna but you did a real practical review and I really don’t like the fact that the trunk is not perfectly flat and that the seats do not lock into place when they’re folded down. And I really don’t like how the backseat third row passengers have no way of getting out by themselves. Thank you thank you thank you
Thanks Daniel, there are many great points to consider. Hopefully Xle is better. Great video 👍
Who mess with pulling carpet on regular basis? Not a reason to whine
carpet is horrible quality. On the order with Tesla's crappy carpet in a $100,000 car. Only half as much but must have the same supplier.
If you pay for it, you can pull and mess with it. Whine, cry, or laugh about it. I know the design and QC department is upset with this video. I know High School kids who would never design this Lego car and sell it.
It is a reason. It's very cheap and flexes all over the place when you enter and exit the vehicle. No other manufacturer has this quality issue or the cheap snap on plastics. It's a Toyota issue they all do it
Toyota is basically the AK47 family of cars. Not refined, often cludged together, but very reliable. It's a trade-off for sure.
AK47 family of cars... 😆 🤣 😂 , it just works 💪.
When you absolutely need to transport everyone in the room, accept no substitutes.
As a 2021 XLE AWD owner, I agree with some of your points like the fittings and quality are not good, however, these vehicles are built in the US, I know as a fact that Toyota and Lexus' products tend to have much better build quality if they were built in Japan, not to diss made in America, it is just the sad fact.
For the sliding door cable, I got your point but I don't know why one will step on the cable except that is the intention. The cable is far away enough from the space that people will step in and out, even my 3-year-old is not bothered by the cable. As I said, you will not step on it unless you really want to step on it, then you are looking for trouble on yourself.
The 3rd row does not stay flat once fold down but mine doesn't spring back up when breaking either, not sure if yours has some spring problem or not. Another thought of this is why you want to fold it down if you are not carrying anything on the back, and if you do put things on the seat, it will stay there fine.
My XLE AWD is 7 seater and there is a strap you can pull, then the 2nd-row seat will fold and can slide to the frontmost position. It is unfair that you compare a lower-trim 8 seater Sienna to a higher-trim 7 seater Odyssey just for the easiness to get out from the 3rd-row.
Yes, the new Sienna has lots of plastic parts, flimsy here and there, however, Honda Odyssey's transmissions are not as good as the Sienna's, especially the old generation Honda. If you want a gas saver AWD minivan, then the new Sienna is your only choice. My close body bought a new 2021 Odyssey as he can't find any dealer who has the Sienna nearby, and he doesn't want to wait. However, only several months later, he trade in his almost new Odyssey for a 2022 Sienna just for the fuel economy. If you want better quality Japanese cars, don't go with Toyota, choose Lexus, and if you want an overall good minivan that saves you money on gas and has AWD capability, get a Sienna when the market calms down.
Japanese manufacturing have way more strict QC before it hits the road. In US, as long it drives its fine.
The problem with the new Sienna is the basic design and materials. Even it it was assembled in Japan, it still would be same shitty design and cheap materials.
LE or XLE, don't matter. The pull strap or latch should be standard on all trim. People who can't afford a higher trim don't deserve to be trapped on the third row. What a deal breaker.
First, Toyota does not make vehicles with the same quality they did 20 years ago across the board. It doesn't matter which model, or whether they are built in Japan or somewhere else. Second, it is clear that Toyota DID NOT design the new Sienna to be a true multi-purpose vehicle, which is the ONLY reason to buy a minivan! The non-removable second row seats, and non flat loading surface are a deal killer for many people. Why bother buying one of these when you can't easily use it as a van to carry oversize items? The Sienna is the perfect example of the stupid "group think" that seems to control all of Toyota's recent designs.
Not the only reason. Some people have 6 kids and just want the best people hauler, and we have an old pickup truck for carrying large items
A great review. Thank you for an honest review.
Great review Dan
Thank you
Are u able to review 2020 Toy Sienna
If possible.
Ur getting great gas mileage.
So u got a nice vehicle....
Ty for this review, you showed perfectly things that usually bothers me. I was looking to buy one this week. You saved me a lot of time, money and probably a bad experience with all these issues. 🙏🏻
Are you guys kidding me
Your pointing out petty little things! Your only there to birch like a little spoiled girl would cry about!
They made those mistakes so they could fix them in later years
Your a petty little baby
@@-Just-incredible- there were no mistakes they did not know about, it was on purpouse. Plastic, and cheap finishes, bc they wanted to make this hybrid affordable. It is made in china on the end. Don't expect quallity. On the end you have choice to buy it or not.
I wanted to buy a Toyota Sienna, but after your video, I don’t want to buy this car anymore
Could have done better?!? 4cyl 240hp hybrid 35+MPG Not to mention AWD option sign me up
that's very useful review. and I reli care the part of problems u mentioned about. thanks. support!
Thanks for that honest review. How is your ownership .. Would you still go for the sienna?
I have a 2002 Sienna. Fit and finish was never very good. But the engine is just amazing. 230.000 miles and still goes strong.
2022 Sienna gets debris/dust/mud in the interior of the rear bumper and causes the "Toyota Safety Sense" to fail. No fix yet from Toyota. If you live in a dry area you may not experience the failure quickly, but debris/mud will eventually disable the RCTA and BSM sensors. I live in Helena, Montana, and can't get my sensors to last more than three weeks.
It's not made in Japan, please people don't be surprised....but I really appreciated sharing ...
My mother’s 22 sienna LE doesn’t have any of those problems. I guess they fixed them for the new model year
Very true review, especially on that mid row seats, thanks! I don't like the placement of the power buttons by the coffee holders and hand rests. Me and my wife accidently tried to press the parking button already while driving :( , and coffee and bread crumbs always trying to get there. Speaking of parking brake actuation while slow driving and opening your door: I don't need that help in stopping the van for me. They need to let me use their EV mode at the grocery store lot when it is right off the HWY exit, but it always keeps it on low (3rd battery bar) and beeps saying "you can't use the EV because battery level too low :(. Also I'd turn the engine off sooner, while at the stop light. Again on EV use while after 25mph (not like in Prius) its practically impossible because you'll be slowing traffic down behind you while trying keeping acceleration in that dark green range of power meter.
At 13:38, you claim you cannot get out. Wrong! At 10:05, if you look at the straps on the bottom, that's where you pull to move the seats forward.
Daniel Dican didn't know what was the Strap Behind the second row seat for...😀
Very helpful, thank you for the video
Toyota could have done better with Sienna hybrid’s taillights illumination.
Maybe the new Sienna is still in prototype stage 😂.
My current Sienna is 2005 3.3L V6 that is still running flawlessly like new with 311K miles without having to replace or rebuild any major component. Engine, transmission, AC, suspension m m, paint are in great shape.
How is CVT transmission compare to automatic transmission? and can you please share some information about the hybrid battery (life + replacement cost)? if possible.
Thanks for the video. Very important information. Thank you for taking the time to share everything. All I can say is the Toyota have been the same. They will never change. I don’t expect the best from Toyota. I preferred to pay more money in quality or gas instead buying Toyota vehicles. I felt the pain after you bought Toyota. I hope that is comfortable at least while you drive it.
Why would you want to put a sheet of plywood in a minivan anyway? That's what trucks are for! As a fellow owner of a Sienna, I feel like a lot of these issues could be corrected with a warranty claim. Aside from a few fit and finish items, this video's complaints seem quite exaggerated. For the third row issue, there's also a strap you can pull from behind the 2nd row to move the seats forward. BOOM, now you can exit the 3rd row safely!
why would one put sheets of plywood in a minivan? life? truck cost money? owning 2 vehicles to hedge all situations in life ain't really practical for most Americans amid ongoing things call inflation and shortage?
@@johnny5896 a persons life today is comprised of past decisions. If a person can't afford something, they didn't set themselves up for it and they didnt want it bad enough. I don't agree with your take, but hey we're entitled to our opinions.
@@jcavidz bro, i want to retire early, that the thing i want really badly, so you suggesting to have 2 depreciating assets instead of just 1 .....will help setting myself up for early retirement?.............anyway no offense but, you sound like a multilevel marketer. I believe its more accurate to describe "life as results of past decisions AND circumstances".
@@johnny5896 I'm not suggesting to anyone to buy what they can't afford. Also, please don't even try to assume what I do for a living. I do run my own business and my vehicles serve as tax writeoffs. But that's far from the point I'm trying to make.
All I was saying is that there are better solutions that can fill the need of putting a sheet of plywood in a van. Like having a truck. Now its not the only way, but you can rent a trailer, which is also more practical than sliding it in your van. If you can't find a solution, sucks for you.
Trust me dude, my discretionary spending takes a back seat to how I set myself up towards early retirement, i.e. investing. You need to stop putting words in people's mouths. Nowhere did I say for anyone to buy depreciating assets that they can't afford in order to advance in early retirement. That's just ridiculous. You play the hands you're dealt and it's your choice to sink or swim. Good luck with your journey.
I'm in line to get a Sienna in spite of the trade-off noted in this video - mostly because of the great gas mileage. One thing I will occasionally miss about my 2009 Odyssey's is its capacity to haul plywood and other building supplies up to work at our summer camp and also to keep the stuff under cover once we get there. Fortunately, those projects are mostly done, and I can swap vans for our daughter's family Pacifica if necessary. BTW, even most of today's humongous fill-size pickups have only a 6-foot bed, so you have to lay the tailgate down to carry plywood, and hope that you can keep it dry with a tarp. cover.
That is sad i was just about to get this one this week same trim but that QC sucks for the low trim level. I guess i will go for honda.
Proudly assembled in Indiana.
By employees pushing for equity .
I feel your pain... Over one year wait now for anyone who wants a new one
Good video except I don't want to have to speed up my video to keep myself from falling asleep
What a great review! So much better than the big auto sites where they only seem to care about the size of the screen or 1/4 mile times.
I'm a Toyota fan, but the things you pointed out are very disappointing. Somebody at Toyota HQ needs to see this video.
The quality of auto carpet across all manufacturers has nosedived for decades now. It used to seem like plush home carpet but now mostly it's just thin mouse fur.
I could have lived with the fact the second row seats don't come out, but as you pointed out, there's really no flat surface behind them. Sliding in a large, heavy box is going to tear it all up, and if you wanted to camp in the back of the van, you'd be very uncomfortable in your sleeping bags.
Toyota is about quality and minivans are about utility, but it seems the new Sienna misses on both counts.
Those 2nd row rails sound like a good idea but how easy is it to clean? A day at the beach with 3 kids. I imagine there’s grease on the rails, so how would the sand effect it? The 3rd row down and it not being flat like my 2012 Odessy is very disappointing. Was it just me or did anyone notice how wobbly the seats were when stowing away the 3rd row seats? Overall pretty disappointing.
Overall it’s still better quality than my model x.
I was on board until you mentioned how the middle row moves and Honda doesn’t. Honda’s are the only minivans that have near full center row seats, AND you can move them forward, AND in and out. Literally you can make a left sided “bench”, right sided “bench”, pull on all the way forward in the middle and sit one back. Besides the newer Kia that allows you to go nearly back to the 3rd row, you might wanna actually look into the other models.
The rear window wiper… if you ever had to change out the rear wiper arm (not wiper blade) you would understand why they changed it. I have a 2011… not a fun thing to fix.
Also the level surface in back you complained about… on the 2011 there is a pad attached to the top that folds up and over the headrest to protect it… pretty sure that looks the same. You might want to fold it over then see if it’s more level. Probably is.
You got a solid point
Thank you saved my money
Yah seems like a list to fix and that cord in the door? Hope its fixed. I have my 2015 v6, and love it. Still waiting for the vacuum, love the 3rd gen tail lights. You can't see the rear lights that much at night. please go back and fix the wiper back to the top!
Definitely agree with the wiper back to the top!
Honda must have changed between 2006-2008. I had a 2006 Odyssey and there was a 5” drop from the tailgate to behind the front seats. Was NOT a level floor.
The vent under the seats are vents for the battery and you don't wanna cover them up. I think I'm gonna wait for the 2023 model before I buy one now.
We need an updated review..!!! Any mechanical issues?
People being willing to overpay for Toyota has made them arrogant. You get far less tech at the price point.
Good review. Hump on floor is annoying.
The carpet. Could be better but made for easier access for repairs. The. Egress issue should be addressed for emergencies. On a brite note,I don't recall any of the Siennas ever experiencing self opening sliding doors or rear hatch as what happened on the same generation of Oddysey as this guys' or even one of the newer ones and also on the new Kia Carnival. I listen to 680 news all the time and pay very close attention to veh. Recalls
We test drove one and thought it was very noisy inside. Some rattles, wind and road noise and it felt cheep overall.
Thank You for your honesty. What tick me off about Toyota Sienna is that they don't offer AWD+8passengers+leather combination. What's so hard for Toyota to understand that Minivan mean family car and 8 passengers is what minivan is built for. I went with Honda Odyssey instead, I at least get 8passengers+leather but missed out on AWD, but it's cheaper.
Also whoever been designing middle seat on second row for the Sienna need to be fired long time ago. Sienna middle seat is an after thought compare to other minivan out there.
1x(11/19/22)….1…done thank you excellent. There is a trifold OEM mat that folds down and protects the back seats backing
That vent under the front seats are to allow air to flow to the battery to keep it cool. Never block them and after a while you need to clean them out which is easy.
But you forgot to mention the rest of the material is sh/t.
@@Faisal-sf1gh looks fine to me. I do wish the floor was completely flat.
@@buickguy1 agree
can’t agree more. good review.
Thank you for sharing this!! These dealers want an extra $5k to $10k for their pockets. The manufacture doesn’t car wha the dealers do. So go right ahead and expose them. They need to give you $4k back for poor quality or failed quality control.
can you live in it working the ac overnight with the hybrid?? tnx
If I found you a couple days ago, I have stopped buying the platinum one. Too late. I found the quality of this vehicle is subpar (even the platinum). Anyway, my family needs the hauler.
2:50 Clip your floor mats in so they don’t accidentally trap your accelerator.
i’m surprised how many areas the sienna is lacking in compared to the old honda
Whats the purpose of pulling the carpet up?
Very helpful
Interesting review. Toyota charges a significant premium price over competitors. That being said, the quality should be much higher. We owned a 2008 sienna for 11 years and it was very solid. This new model is not. We bought a 2020 Odyssey mainly bc the 2nd row seats in the new sienna are not removable. Good luck hauling a sofa in a sienna. The Odyssey was also $8k less (exl model). I admit the Odyssey is not great and has some disappointments, but I am still glad we have it.
The second row is removable
@@Hernsama the 2nd row seat aren’t removable on the new 2021-2023 Sienna because the airbag are mounted on the shoulder of the seat like right on the seat basically so if you tried to take them out you gonna have to unscrew and cut wires
Send this to Toyota. Show them this is the American build quality!
If you don’t mind how much did you pay for it ?
This is a first model year so expect these issues. They should fix them for 2022. Plus you got the BASE model!
I have a 2022 platinum and can attest that the same issues he highlights are the same in the highest level trim in the newer one. Don't expect them to change in the middle of the build years after retooling for the next gen. Only Tesla does that.
They just crank them out. Especially when they cannot build them fast enough due to the supply chain issues.
Am surprised!! Will someone sit at the third row when second row is empty??
Yes,my kids do that all the time!
I got XSE all wheel drive. Its quality is appropriate and it's not high end luxury vehicle. You cannot compare with Odyssey as this is hybrid and meant for family hauling with maximum fuel efficiency with modern safety features. In Canadaian model only deficiency is lack of parking sensors in XSE. Amazing fuel average for such big vehicle can cover many things. Its no way underpowered for normal van driving.
so do you see the same issues that he mentioned with fit and finish?
@@CanadaSocial not really. I feel it appropriate for the price tag and category of vehicle. I m satisfied with fit and finish.
@@asimateeq635 Thanks Asim, I am hearing that there is some creaking sounds coming from these XSE versions under normal driving.. what are your thoughts
Mine is still quite and behaving the way it should.
the main selling point is just the 35/36 mpg. other than that, they could've done so much better.
What are you getting for mileage? I’m more interested in highway mpg. How is wind / road noise?
2022 platinum gets 33mpg with under 1500 miles on it so far. Ride is quiet as a church on a weekday.
my Sienna has a 3" lift kit and cargo box on the roof. Still averaging 32.8 combined
Wow! Too much whining for my taste. Desperate to make content much?
Great video from an actual owner! I will stick with Honda!
And having to replace a timing belt every 60000 or so miles
Never buy the first year of a new model, learned that the hard way with our ‘17 Pacifica…
I think the real lesson you learned was to never buy a Chrysler vehicle of any year.
The 2013 toyota sienna is better than the latest sienna le in terms of space and build quality. The 2013 may have a lot of cheap plastic but it was quite stable. The third row in the 2013 had more space than the 2021 third row.
What about the pros ??? Will it because it’s the lowest model u got a lemon maybe thank you for sharing
very objective !!!
Hi. Very useful video. I also chose for a long time between 2021 sienna and 2021 honda. Toyota has overdone the Sienna, this is my personal opinion, I do not like the Sienna 2021. Therefore I ordered the Sienna 2020 awd limited.
Can you order it new or is it used?
@@nartron3000
Of course used, 34K km
i wonder if quality is the same on higher trims
It’s better in the upper trims
Not one mention of the engine did you make this video.for soccer moms
Quality of the inside look very cheap and flimsy but functional
We have an old Honda van and we were planning to get an Sienna. I guess it is a NO for us now. Thank you.
I own a 2022 xle and I have no problem with any thing at all dude if you don't like all that stuff get a different van omg my Toyota sienna is awesome better then a chrysler pacifica or Honda odyssey or any other mini van seats are awesome
3rd gen sienna I felt had more plastic inside and looked cheap over the 4th gen, the higher trim like platinum has less plastic or better material than the base model, most base model cars look cheap, you pay for what you get for a entry level, the Honda Odyssey compared 2008 is not a base model. Btw the sienna is manufactured in US, so this may have build quality issue…
I have a 2022 platinum and I can tell you that the issues he complains about are in the Platinum too. In addition, unusable front phone charger on a ledge under a dash overhang hidden by the shifter, phone slots that don't fit iPhones so must use an on-dash phone holder, too-tiny cup holders for anything other than small cups, lane tracking that doesn't and alarms on itself for not keeping in the lane, bad user interface and worthless navigation search programming (still better to use phone app). Otherwise, love the ride, quiet, seat comfort, styling. Have owned Toyota minivans since 1990 previa came out. Keep getting better but 2 steps forward and 1 step back with them. Had to get the platinum just to get the heated steering wheel option,lol
@@paincare6577 I too have a platinum, I can’t speak on the Navi, the Toyota/Lexus Navi tend to behind in technology, personally haven’t used the Navi in the 4th gen, and just use apple play Waze or Map. No issues with the iPhone holder in the slots with cup holder, don’t have the max iPhone, fits regular size no problem, there are 4 cup holders, the two side front are bigger cups, the closest to the rear are for reg size cup holder.LTA has setting your alarm or vibrate to help move van back in lane. I find the dash has better material than the 3rd gen the looks cheap in 3rd gen.
I know what you mean. Cars built after year 2000 tend to be like that . They are not designed to last so consumers will get new one sooner than the old days. As each year .. price increase because give your more stuff in the car as std equipment. And car price can’t increase that much . So. That’s why the quality cut on others things
Built during peak pandemic, hold on to your existing vehicles
I got 22 sienna limited.
that short opening of the slide door is ki lling me.......kinda defeated half the purpose of having a slide door. Shoulda slide more back
You sound like Father Guido Sarduccci. Eetza verri, verri gooda van! Yes indeedy, thanks for your frank words. Without brutally honest assessments such as yours, all I have to go on is BS from the dealer. The Odyssey still has a timing belt AND solid lifters that require periodic adjustments. Your Honda dealer will not mention those maintenance burdens.
5th gen odyssey ex-L and up for the win!...but really..good review...the 2008 odyssey looked like it surpasses in engineering .lol
Can't get odessy in awd
@@paincare6577 LMAO
I was thinking of buying this toyota sienna that is very reliable but shitty finishing but I'll get the honda or order brands with very good finish and high maintenance.
Thanks for showing these issues. There is a big difference between American and Japanese built Toyotas......standards of quality between American designed and built Toyotas is not the same as Japanese.
You should have gotten an Odyssey instead since you seem unhappy with the sienna. Until Honda comes out with a hybrid Odyssey I'll definitely go with the Sienna. I've test driven the new Sienna and the are sweet. For me, hybrid is the way to go instead of electric.
Y is hybrid beter than electric? Thx
The other thing that shows Toyota builds a great car but a sucky electronics interface is the bonging alarm anytime the outside air temp gets to 37 degrees warning to watch for icy conditions. Repeatedly. Can't be shut off. Bitched about in the Sienna forum by everyone. Doesn't matter that it is clear with no moisture. That's just one of many irritations.
The cab looks so cheap just like my 2011 Sienna . Cheap plastic parts that break . All my window trim has disintegrated too .
Did you notice there is no rear bumper ? Someone gets hit from behind and they are going to have a big repair bill .
If you like take ax and hack it down or use screw driver to loosen things, truth is it is great the best mini van.
I might get an odyssey instead.
Some of the quality issues are pretty minor. The plastic clips can be easily replaced under warranty. The cabling to the door is nit picking. I have yet to see anyone step so far back as to impact the cabling. With that said, that system seems to use a cheaper gauge cable protector. What you are really paying for is the powertrain. I have owned my 2004 Sienna since June 2003. First year model… Had AC issue fixed after two services and letter with legal action. Other than that.. tires, starter, two brake calipers, one oxygen sensor. Radio became erratic so it was replaced with Kenwood unit. Ours was an LE and is the most reliable vehicle I ever owned. We just ordered LE, AWD with sunroof package. It will most likely have some faults, but I would not even venture into GM, Nissan, Chrysler territory. Honda starts at 41k.. .and no AWD. I love the fact you can lift the carpet… over time you can replace with new. BTW… the days of quality carpet are gone…. Those left us in the 2000’s, unless you venture into 60k or better. I think some of criticisms are on the mark but he had every right to inspect the vehicle on dealers lot before he drove it home. I did notice one thing that he did not: a open exposed cable that runs under back window for the sliding doors. That cable was concealed before. That cable should be at least one gauge thicker and hidden.
Read Consumer Reports about Sienna vs Odyssey, then buy the Sienna.
What I don't understand is that everything you pointed out is not hidden. It's all clearly part of the van's design yet you still bought one? 😂
And with that everyone will shift to the Odyssey...so when is the re-designed Odyssey coming out? Great review, thanks.
Toyota vehicles can be very reliable, however I've always found their fit and finish always to be bad.
I drive Uber in NYC and I've driven Toyota , Nissan, Hyundai and my current Kia Optima Hybrid with 100,000 miles. My Kia so far has hold up the best.
The previous Toyota hybrid still ran without issues but felt like cr@p. Everything from squeeks to suspension noise to the battery not holding much charge.
Drove 2 Nisan Altima which actually felt good and smooth but on both, yes on both, the transmission died shortly after the warranty ended at 60000 miles.
The Hyundai Elantra was just ok. It was a cheap Elantra thought, not in the same league as the other ones.
the toyota's built in japan have excellent fit and finish. our 2020 highlander hybrid was built in japan. was perfect. my 21 sienna was obviously built in the USA, and its fit and finish left a lot to be desired.
gotta admit this build quality issue is getting worse every year ... it's like all manufactures took a massive nose dive in quality control just to pinch a penny 😮💨
I rented a brand new Sienna a couple of years ago. A lot of broken parts in the car. The quality of this car is not that great for a 60.000 dollar car.