@@ejjohnson7061 it’s crazy nobody gives KD smoke for losing a 3-1 lead… also no one give curry and klay smoke. But bring up Lebron and they will bring up 2011 🤧🤣
2016 was my first time watching basketball for real and i will be forever grateful that i was lucky enough to see that Cavs miracle happen in front of my eyes
One of my closest friends and I live in Cleveland..we had been watching the Cavs since Bron got drafted....I was downtown the night the Cavs won game 7....2016 was a special year and a sad one....my best friend and I were texting about the championship and then July 17th he was tragically killed in a crossfire....that year will always be a meaningful year to me 🏆
Most people never were even mad at KD for leaving OKC it was the choice to go to the Warriors dude could’ve went ANYWHERE ELSE and nobody would’ve said a word but he literally ruined the whole Cavs vs Warriors rivalry
He wanted to play with Steph and bron did too and in 2016 the league got on some bs and Steph and the boys went and got kd and then told the league your move hate or love it series in chips is 3 to 1 golden state.
Definitely not the greatest win…that was the same exact warriors team that Lebron had down 2-0 by himself…everyone said “if bron had kyrie and love he would’ve won”…so he got them and won…he shouldn’t have been down 3-1 because he had the better team they only one because Curry was hobbled from spraining his mcl and bogut got hurt…the warriors wasn’t no all star team they were regular guys with two snipers that played well together…it wasn’t like Wade, bron and bosh which were all ALL STARS by themselves…we seen draymond by himself vs Kevin love…and we know who bron is and kyrie…they jus pump that up to fuel lebrons legacy
@@MrSPIDEY21 🤦🏾♂️ sounds like you’re discrediting the western teams & Curry. Look you win if you just gonna look away at them being the winningest team.
@@venosaveillard4632 I’m not discrediting the warriors I’m giving them credit…people are trying to say they were an unfair team when they weren’t…they were great together. Bron actually had the unfair team…people just pump up shit to boost Lebron…there’s no way the block was more important than than kyries shot…there’s no way iggy should’ve won fmvp over Steph but “he was guarding bron”. And people will say “bron still averaged 30-8-8” and it’s misleading because he didn’t do all that on iggy…it’s all stupid…there’s no way that warriors team is better than the bulls with Jordan or lakers with kobe and Shaq purely on matchups but they pumped them up to pump Lebron up…that’s what I’m saying…
@@MrSPIDEY21 u sound dumb being that curry is the greatest shooter of all time and being that they won 73 games in a season? How was bron not supposed to be down 3-1 to a team that did that ? And the block was more impactful because if they down two right there they probably don’t even go for a 3 being kyries shot
@@thetruth1753 absolutely agree 100% all that matters they came back to win the championship that was the Greatest come back in NBA history against that team
not really, the facts is bogut was injured he is one of the high iq and great shot blocker in gs, and green suspend in 1 game. if they said that well thats the facts that youre talkin about
@@azbro2831 kyrie and love are valuable in offensive end. Bogut and d.green are valuable in defensive end. So comparing them, they are all both valuable in their team.
That host was like a straight clown a$$ hater and Iman never bought his bait. Respect for that man for having such an honesty and unbiased mind like that.
I remember like a year or so before he broke out. I read a quote of him saying he was better than Lebron. I was like who is this lil dude? As a Cavs fan, I surely found out who he was after that.
But what’s the relevance. It has no valid point as to who he actually was at that time. Lmao of course they said he would be out the league he was always hurt. Notice he never mentioned anything about them saying he was going to be out the league because he couldn’t play. Terrible point
@@GRANxNATIxJEFExTV i think the reason he brought it up was to show how people's perception of Steph changed over time, even tho Steph was putting up solid numbers then, he was still not considered the future of basketball. The whole point him bringing it up was basically to say, this dude could still play, and they wanted him out of the league anyway... I think the relevance of the point is a little lost here because it's not the full interview but it's likely that they were just talking about how Steph changed the game and this portion came after that, so in this small clip form, there is a lack of context.
D Green missed game 5 Lebron dropped a 41 bomb He came back in game 6 well rested Lebron scored another 41 points He also played game 7 and LeBron had a 29 points triple double Draymond is one of the greatest Defenders ever but stop making look like the Cavs would never win if he played in game 5
I's highly likely that that game 5 shifted the momentum of the series and gave the Cavs new life. It would have been extremely hard for the Warriors to lose 3 in a row.
It’s so funny to watch these guys ballin and then hearing them speak. I’d probably love every one of them if we sat down and had a conversation. There’s a reason why they all made the league. The skill didn’t come from nothing.
2:55 Iman was making an entirely different point than what this interviewer interrupted him with. Did that so many times in this clip and interview period. Actually pay attention and listen to your guests. Instead of changing the topic, would've loved to hear Iman go on about Cleveland having to figure out Draymond's importance to GS in some other fashion.
I can never ever emphesis how great and essential Dreymond was and still is to the success of G.S.W and Steph curry. He never had the stats to show for it but if y'all watched G.S.W games and not highlights, he is like that beaitiful V8 engine in a Shelby.
Andrew Bogut missing the finals getting injured and Andre Iggy pulling groin changed the finals. Not Draymond missing game….ALTHOUGH it was a huge turning point for momentum
Warriors lost their interior defense which is how Kyrie and LeBron had easy lanes to the basket when Bogut went down. That was the difference. But I think the warriors broke down as the series went on because they got tired. The cavs cruised their way to those finals. The warriors were in a dog fight with the Thunder going 7 games. And that was a hard seven games. They just got fatigue. And remember before the playoffs they were in very close games trying to break the record.
This is most idiotic statement I’ve read today 😭 This man was literally in the games talking to the players and you’re gonna sit here and proclaim that he is wrong 😭😭😭 Can’t make this stuff ip
@@MikeBNumba6 the warriors went all out in the last games of the season to chase the 73 wins. because they lost some dumb games to the T wolves earlier they went all out at the end and were banged up in the playoffs
@@JR-wu8gf go watch the tape. Go see how dominant number 1 overall pick Andrew Bogut was on defense. I think dude averaged 3 blocks that finals. Lebron and Kevin n even Kyrie couldn’t go to the paint. Lebron was even scared from looks of it.
Respect to Shumpert for being 💯. He just gave his personal account, analogy and commentation about how detrimental Draymond's absence was to victory and most yall in the comment still hating. 🤷🏽♂️
Draymond missed game 5 Lebron scared 41 points He came game 6 well rested Lebron scored another 41 points He also played game 7 and LeBron had a 29 points triple double Draymond is one of the greatest Defenders ever but stop making look like the Cavs would never win if he played in game 5
This man Shumpert literally telling yall what it is bruh. Nobody ever said Lebron isn't that 1. Nooobody stops Lebron. But Yall Bron Nut riders are worse than the beehive cult. 🤣🤣🤣
Coz Kyrie hits the clutch shots both game 6&7. And scores 40+pts too. Most people forget about kyrie did. And he's doing great defensively against Curry or Klay the whole series.
Green was out game 5. Bogut broke his leg game 5 and was out games 6 and 7. Both were key to the Warriors defense. I believe if both teams were healthy both years, both still would’ve had a championship, but Cleveland would’ve won in 2014-2015 and Golden State in 2015-2016.
Bogut only averaged 12 minutes a game in the 2016 finals. They went with their death lineup remember? Also, Love left game 2 with a concussion then missed game 3 and the Cavs still won by 30. People seem to forget a lot of the details when debating. They let their personal biases take over. There were factors on both sides. The main factor is this, the Warriors had 3 tries to win one game and they failed. It’s that simple.
Coming from a Lebron fan: 1. The hardest ring was Houston in 94. They were a 6th seed. 2. Most impressive run was the Mavs in 2011. 3. Best Finals: 2016 Cleveland vs GSW
As a Cavs fan who is born, raise, and still living in Cleveland....Iman has a special spot in my heart. He was awesome. 2016 was amazing. Glad he's chilling and happy.
This was a great series! Cavs at that time were not a superteam....at all! They gelled together and balled hard. Warriors gave them a tough challenge. I will take this Cavs team over the Lakers we see now any day!
Exactly. The fix was already in. Game 7 was June 19, 2016. Take a wild guess when the biblical King James was born. 450 years earlier (June 19, 1566). Great storyline all the way around.
Lol Draymond don’t do what he did he don’t get suspended. Why does no one ever hold that dude accountable 😅. He had a history of low blows all playoffs. Why do that??? He lucky he wasn’t suspended earlier to be honest when they was playing the Thunder and he kicked Adams.
Iman is my guy! I loved him the most when he played for my NY Knicks! But he's buggin!! CAVS wer down 3-1. Where was Draymond game 4, 6, 7.. draymond hit 30+ points in game 7, how come they still ain't win?!?! You gotta love draymond for his great leadship.. he doesn't score 20, 30 points every night, but he is extremely effective in that organization.. but stop it!!! He wasn't stopping No KING JAMES!
Iggy and Bogut were injured. Harrison Barnes was virtually non existent on the court. Steph was coming off injury and finally I must admit. He shrunk in the the big moments. Careless turnovers and couldn’t hit a shot. There’s a real explanation for the L. Nonetheless Cavs took care of they business
I remember that series vividly.. the pick n roll he and Lee or bogut was doing was killing us . He starts the offense leads the defense and handle the half court pg responsibility.... I think y'all need to understand real basketball..
@@zone_luck5242 without half of the frontcourt in Draymond and Bogut. Hell, even what Wade did being down 0-2 to the Mavs was more to me. Detroit beat the most crewed up Lakers squad and almost took the Spurs out
Ppl don’t understand that rivalry was never gonna be bron vs Steph, if the warriors would’ve won in 16 then K was going to Cleveland no doubt, all the news articles and media around the league knew it
Seeee!!! Thats what Im trying to say. Steph klay and dray become an all star or maybe an all time great after beating teams and winning the championship. Only KD was the legit all star player that joined that team (exclude DmC because he aint battling the ball. Its his injury). You can clearly see how fans favored someones team or player and diminished somebody's achievement because of this and that. This is the very 1st time I hear that not biased to GsW "big all star" team. Im not even a fan of them. Anyways, Letzooooo bulllllllsss!!
Draymond Green is a three-time all star and he’s a three-time all star because he played on the Warriors. People need to learn how to use proper context. Bill Russell had a lot of teammates who were all stars because they played with Bill Russell.
1:42 you guys get your facts wrong-surprising from Cavs/Bron fans who think that one ring in 2016 makes up for losing 3 out of 4 (maybe that's not what these people in the video think but many fans seem to). It was Game 5 in Oakland that Draymond had to sit out. A crucial game-but I think the Cavs won this Finals because Lebron and Kyrie played some of the best ball they ever played from Game 5 on. In the end-it was great for Cleveland and great for the league because it matched some of the intensity of the best of the Lakers/Celtics era in terms of narrative and fandom. Injuries are part of the game-it takes a bit of luck to win a chip. Being healthy is rare at the end of the season. The whole Draymond Green ejection sure had signs of a narrative wanting Cleveland to have some advantage-but Draymond should have known that he would be baited. No excuse for some of the coaching decisions by Steve Kerr at the end of the series-going with Varejao and Ezeli and some of the rotational decisions were wack. As a GSW fan-I'm sure that there was a bit of being too confident that led into what happened-and injuries started early in that playoff run. Going for 73 wins was a risky move that in the end didn't pay off. Us Dubs fans always separate how fun that regular season was from the playoffs; it's a season with ultimately a sour feeling because of that greatness with how badly it ended.
If you say they won partly cause dray was out you have to say the year before the only reason warriors won was cause kyrie and love were out and Bron still took tbe warriors to 6 that series
I don’t get this “if draymond played they would have won” he came back the next game and had the best game of his career and still lost. Think he got 35-8-7 or something. Still took the L. So you can’t act like it’s an automatic dub for them.
@@freshmoney6597 you assume I'm a Bron fan because I have a take about a team he was on? Warriors were defending champs. Warriors were up 3-1. in 2011 Miami was in its first year, Bron still hadn't won a chip. a 3-1 lead comeback finals by itself is enough. let alone against that Warriors team. stop the cap.
@@wellDamnJamz You know nothing about basketball. U let the media control your opinions. The Cavs were better than the Warriors. I don't give a damn about their REGULAR SEASON record. If Kyrie and Love don't get injured the Cavs would've beat the Warriors twice. Bron, Kyrie, and Love is better than Steph, Klay, and Draymond. The Warriors knew that. That's why they got KD. I was not surprised the Warriors lost.. Especially after Draymond's suspension. We were all surprised the Big 3 lost to the Mavs. That was the biggest finals upset ever. Sorry! 🤷🏾♂️
@@freshmoney6597 bruh. its not worth it going back and forth with you cuz its not a good faith conversation when you just jumping to insults and conclusions like a loser. if the convo was best championship run, then I would give it to the Mavs, because obviously somebody as pompous as you knows who the Mavs beat to get to the Finals that year. but because I have a difference in opinion about the Finals themselves I'm on some sheep shit? don't be typical.
Its pretty obvious KD ruined his legacy by joining the GSW. Shumperts joking at the end, is how him and most the nba and nba fans feel for real. Cupcake soft asf
Green played in game 6 and Bron dropped another 41 on his head 🤣🤣🤣. The Larriors had 3 games to win a championship but they could not. It's their fault that their weak ass team could not beat Bron's team. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Idk who this podcast man is, but damn, he interrupt Shump nonstop in every episode. Let Shump talk!! Always seem to go into good stories and you have to butt in with totally different stuff. We watching this Cus of Shump man, no you!!
The Warriors weren't officially "The Warriors" we know now in that 14-15 Finals. Bron had those boys where he wanted them but fumbled the bag. Regardless of no Kyrie or Love, they should've beaten the Warriors the first go around as well.
Bruh if u watched that shit u can tell the energy evaporate game 4 and 5. Bron did what he could but its impossible when u have no other cat who can take at least some pressure. Cavs were really beat up Delly was in the IV dude. Bron had a back injury, mosgov was getting benched after he had a great game 3. David blatt was braindead. The Cavs stood no chance. But it kinda showed me that Bron with jus Kyrie or Love not even both woulda ended them.
He not cappin at the end, KD would've joined the cavs. I still feel like KD and bron teaming up to beat steph klay and Draymond would've been a sight to see. After the thunder lost in 2016 of course. He still would've gotten killed in the media but not as bad cause they blew the 3-1 lead before GS so it wouldve made more sense personally.. KD, Lebron, kyrie and Kevin love vs steph klay Draymond and igoudoula.. ultimate revenge matchup in the 2017 finals had kd joined the cavs.
what if cleveland was healthy in 2015? okay then lol the warriors wouldve lost but theres no asterisk on rings lol history just shows who won and thats it. gotta go to war with the army you have, shorthanded or not
The hardest ring ever seen? Andrew Bogut with broken knee, Andre Iguodala injured, Draymond Green suspended in Game 5, Steph Curry injured with MCL tear had 30 points fouled out early in Game 6 and had only 1 free throw in Games 6 and 7. 2016 and 2020 Championships were the easiest pathways to win in the history of the NBA. Anyone who praises a fake achievement is an ignorant. The hardest Championships were 1998, 2010, 2011 and 2022.
I think you forget that mavs team dog walked the west that year in path to the heat They weren’t scrubs History gonna remember them as such cause Bron had a bad series
@@loveeveryanime it’s not an undervalue. I’m just pointing out the fact that his squad is not valued as high as the Heat. That’s why everyone in Vegas never gave Dallas a snow balls chance in hell to win.
@@drivenrc I somewhat agree, but I am of the mindset that there are a few that were more impressive to me in terms of difficulty. The Cavs comeback vs the War is an example.
Coming out the Western Conference in 2016 was brutal:
Warriors: 73 - 9
Spurs: 67- 15
Thunder: 55 - 27
Clippers: 53 - 29
What if Okc would’ve beat Golden State and went to the Finals… they were up 3-1 do you KD would’ve left ?
@@ejjohnson7061 I think so because he said he liked the brand of basketball the Warriors played. I don't think he was happy with Russ
just like how it was when kobe and jordan played
@@ejjohnson7061 it’s crazy nobody gives KD smoke for losing a 3-1 lead… also no one give curry and klay smoke. But bring up Lebron and they will bring up 2011 🤧🤣
@@yuckieyuckie4772 facts
2016 was my first time watching basketball for real and i will be forever grateful that i was lucky enough to see that Cavs miracle happen in front of my eyes
Same and I became a basketball fan after that
same bro what a time to be alive
Nice
One of my closest friends and I live in Cleveland..we had been watching the Cavs since Bron got drafted....I was downtown the night the Cavs won game 7....2016 was a special year and a sad one....my best friend and I were texting about the championship and then July 17th he was tragically killed in a crossfire....that year will always be a meaningful year to me 🏆
Most people never were even mad at KD for leaving OKC it was the choice to go to the Warriors dude could’ve went ANYWHERE ELSE and nobody would’ve said a word but he literally ruined the whole Cavs vs Warriors rivalry
He wanted to play with Steph and bron did too and in 2016 the league got on some bs and Steph and the boys went and got kd and then told the league your move hate or love it series in chips is 3 to 1 golden state.
He just ruined the cavs fuck the rivalry we taking this oh yeah thanks
That rivalry was so good, as soon as kd joined they go 16-1 in the playoffs
@@sdfishinn let’s be fair it was kd, steph, draymond, and klay against Kylie and Lebron,, k love turned into a glorified role player on that team
Kyrie ** lol
It was the greatest win because of it being the first 3 to 1 comeback against the WINNINGEST team in nba HISTORY…still to this day.
Definitely not the greatest win…that was the same exact warriors team that Lebron had down 2-0 by himself…everyone said “if bron had kyrie and love he would’ve won”…so he got them and won…he shouldn’t have been down 3-1 because he had the better team they only one because Curry was hobbled from spraining his mcl and bogut got hurt…the warriors wasn’t no all star team they were regular guys with two snipers that played well together…it wasn’t like Wade, bron and bosh which were all ALL STARS by themselves…we seen draymond by himself vs Kevin love…and we know who bron is and kyrie…they jus pump that up to fuel lebrons legacy
@@MrSPIDEY21 🤦🏾♂️ sounds like you’re discrediting the western teams & Curry. Look you win if you just gonna look away at them being the winningest team.
@@venosaveillard4632 I’m not discrediting the warriors I’m giving them credit…people are trying to say they were an unfair team when they weren’t…they were great together. Bron actually had the unfair team…people just pump up shit to boost Lebron…there’s no way the block was more important than than kyries shot…there’s no way iggy should’ve won fmvp over Steph but “he was guarding bron”. And people will say “bron still averaged 30-8-8” and it’s misleading because he didn’t do all that on iggy…it’s all stupid…there’s no way that warriors team is better than the bulls with Jordan or lakers with kobe and Shaq purely on matchups but they pumped them up to pump Lebron up…that’s what I’m saying…
@@MrSPIDEY21 u sound dumb being that curry is the greatest shooter of all time and being that they won 73 games in a season? How was bron not supposed to be down 3-1 to a team that did that ? And the block was more impactful because if they down two right there they probably don’t even go for a 3 being kyries shot
@@thetruth1753 absolutely agree 100% all that matters they came back to win the championship that was the Greatest come back in NBA history against that team
Friendly fire to KD at the end 😂
Calm burn 😂
Lmao! He ain't wrong though. He the first NBA player I've heard come out and say it ruined basketball 😂
LOL
Truth Spoken
He not lying tho 😂😂😂
Kd iknow you see this win a real ring
This man spitting straight facts ......
not really, the facts is bogut was injured he is one of the high iq and great shot blocker in gs, and green suspend in 1 game. if they said that well thats the facts that youre talkin about
@@jceldartist3996 2014-2015 finals kyrie kevin love hurt
@@azbro2831 i know, and 2016 bogut and d.green was out of the game
@@jceldartist3996 but u cant compare draymond and bogut to kyrie and love
@@azbro2831 kyrie and love are valuable in offensive end. Bogut and d.green are valuable in defensive end. So comparing them, they are all both valuable in their team.
I love how iman just speaks from the perspective of a basketball player vs the host sounding like a Twitter casual from 2017.
facts
Truth
That host was like a straight clown a$$ hater and Iman never bought his bait. Respect for that man for having such an honesty and unbiased mind like that.
I’m glad shump said that Curry was about to be out the league people forget that …once he set it off in MSG for 54 that when all eyes became on Curry
I remember like a year or so before he broke out. I read a quote of him saying he was better than Lebron. I was like who is this lil dude? As a Cavs fan, I surely found out who he was after that.
False.
But what’s the relevance. It has no valid point as to who he actually was at that time. Lmao of course they said he would be out the league he was always hurt. Notice he never mentioned anything about them saying he was going to be out the league because he couldn’t play. Terrible point
Out the league is a stretch he was averaging like 24 and 8
@@GRANxNATIxJEFExTV i think the reason he brought it up was to show how people's perception of Steph changed over time, even tho Steph was putting up solid numbers then, he was still not considered the future of basketball. The whole point him bringing it up was basically to say, this dude could still play, and they wanted him out of the league anyway... I think the relevance of the point is a little lost here because it's not the full interview but it's likely that they were just talking about how Steph changed the game and this portion came after that, so in this small clip form, there is a lack of context.
Draymond Green is as important to the Warriors as Curry is in some way, Curry is definitely the offensive system but Green IS the defensive pillar
Hey draymond is a playmaker as well, he’s a reason why steph and klay can play off ball lol
Dray is the vocal leader. In some ways hes more important than Steph
Respect to Iman
D Green missed game 5
Lebron dropped a 41 bomb
He came back in game 6 well rested
Lebron scored another 41 points
He also played game 7 and LeBron had a 29 points triple double
Draymond is one of the greatest Defenders ever but stop making look like the Cavs would never win if he played in game 5
Facts 💯
I's highly likely that that game 5 shifted the momentum of the series and gave the Cavs new life. It would have been extremely hard for the Warriors to lose 3 in a row.
You must not know drey has a huge impact on the warriors offense
@@tlucas9075 but still a bum and cant score in consistent basis
@@shatoshi331 facts mr single double 😂
Gotta love the respect for Steph, Klay and especially Green💯✊
Iman needs his own podcast I can listen bro all day talk
Love the "we beat y'all ass coz your big bro not here" analogy. Perfect way to picture it. haha
It’s so funny to watch these guys ballin and then hearing them speak. I’d probably love every one of them if we sat down and had a conversation. There’s a reason why they all made the league. The skill didn’t come from nothing.
2:55 Iman was making an entirely different point than what this interviewer interrupted him with. Did that so many times in this clip and interview period. Actually pay attention and listen to your guests. Instead of changing the topic, would've loved to hear Iman go on about Cleveland having to figure out Draymond's importance to GS in some other fashion.
I wanted to hear where he was going with his point
He has so much hate for the warriors dude is almost foaming at the mouth…couldn’t even let the man speak
You can see the salt coming out his mouth 🤡
I can never ever emphesis how great and essential Dreymond was and still is to the success of G.S.W and Steph curry. He never had the stats to show for it but if y'all watched G.S.W games and not highlights, he is like that beaitiful V8 engine in a Shelby.
His stats definitely show it. He can get a triple double any night.
@@izang5800 triple single
Now I feel draymond ain't all that important, but that V8 in a Shelby tho ..
Iman save all this stuff for the 2016 cavs documentary
Draymond Green didn’t play in Game 5 of the 2016 Finals. He played in Game 6.
And 7
No game 5 was the game he could of only made a impact in 😂…I don’t know why people even bring that up
and bogut did not came back
He played game 6 and 7
LeBron put the same numbers up
i find this guy so funny. those expressions get that man to Hollywood
he on the chi now lol
Andrew Bogut missing the finals getting injured and Andre Iggy pulling groin changed the finals. Not Draymond missing game….ALTHOUGH it was a huge turning point for momentum
Warriors lost their interior defense which is how Kyrie and LeBron had easy lanes to the basket when Bogut went down.
That was the difference. But I think the warriors broke down as the series went on because they got tired. The cavs cruised their way to those finals.
The warriors were in a dog fight with the Thunder going 7 games. And that was a hard seven games.
They just got fatigue. And remember before the playoffs they were in very close games trying to break the record.
Man the warriors shouldn't even been in the finals that year. If Chris Paul was healthy and played game 7 the rockets would've been there
This is most idiotic statement I’ve read today 😭
This man was literally in the games talking to the players and you’re gonna sit here and proclaim that he is wrong 😭😭😭
Can’t make this stuff ip
@@MikeBNumba6 the warriors went all out in the last games of the season to chase the 73 wins. because they lost some dumb games to the T wolves earlier they went all out at the end and were banged up in the playoffs
@@JR-wu8gf go watch the tape. Go see how dominant number 1 overall pick Andrew Bogut was on defense. I think dude averaged 3 blocks that finals. Lebron and Kevin n even Kyrie couldn’t go to the paint. Lebron was even scared from looks of it.
"And then KD would've came to the cavs." Lmao Shumpert is hell for that one!
*1995 Rockets has entered the chat*
*2011 Mavericks has entered the chat*
People sleep on the 1995 Rockets. A 6 seed won an nba championship. That's very rare
Iman so Chicago it’s hilarious 😂😂
This is great! Love this podcast. Great job Iman 💪
Respect to Shumpert for being 💯. He just gave his personal account, analogy and commentation about how detrimental Draymond's absence was to victory and most yall in the comment still hating. 🤷🏽♂️
He was there the whole next series in 2017 and kyrie and lebron played better then they did 16 💀💀 that boy not a factor to bron and ky
Draymond missed game 5
Lebron scared 41 points
He came game 6 well rested
Lebron scored another 41 points
He also played game 7 and LeBron had a 29 points triple double
Draymond is one of the greatest Defenders ever but stop making look like the Cavs would never win if he played in game 5
This man Shumpert literally telling yall what it is bruh. Nobody ever said Lebron isn't that 1. Nooobody stops Lebron. But Yall Bron Nut riders are worse than the beehive cult. 🤣🤣🤣
@@theVOICE0f1 lol bruh they obviously better with a dpoy I’m just saying that they winning wether he there or not 💀💀 we got plenty of data for that.
@@julian2238numbers dont lie but they sure dont tell the while truth. Shumpert's personal account conveys a different perspective.
Coz Kyrie hits the clutch shots both game 6&7. And scores 40+pts too. Most people forget about kyrie did. And he's doing great defensively against Curry or Klay the whole series.
Kyrie did it on an injured foot too.
🤣 that last joke on KD was super underrated
Shump be high af in these interviews 😂
Green was out game 5. Bogut broke his leg game 5 and was out games 6 and 7. Both were key to the Warriors defense. I believe if both teams were healthy both years, both still would’ve had a championship, but Cleveland would’ve won in 2014-2015 and Golden State in 2015-2016.
Choke
The league mvp was on the floor. No excuses
@@dparks2856 then in that case, Lebron was on the floor 2014-2015. No excuses right? Or we can be real that it's still a team game.
Bogut only averaged 12 minutes a game in the 2016 finals. They went with their death lineup remember? Also, Love left game 2 with a concussion then missed game 3 and the Cavs still won by 30. People seem to forget a lot of the details when debating. They let their personal biases take over. There were factors on both sides. The main factor is this, the Warriors had 3 tries to win one game and they failed. It’s that simple.
Alright Steven a smith lol
I'm from Cleveland. yall know how we feel about 2016. un fuckin believable
I was lucky enough to be at the Spurs/Warriors game that the spurs won. I was always into playing ball, but that season got me into watching it.
04 Pistons and 11 Mavs are bigger upsets
People forget those same Warriors just went to OKC and did a 3-1 comeback that season.
i dunno if some of yall can tell but this dude Iman is Chicago asf when he talks and i love it 😂
2011 mavericks was a harder championship to me but I enjoy the storytelling
Coming from a Lebron fan:
1. The hardest ring was Houston in 94. They were a 6th seed.
2. Most impressive run was the Mavs in 2011.
3. Best Finals: 2016 Cleveland vs GSW
love the honesty from Iman
Dirk Nowitzki ring was the hardest ring ever won. Period
Nah
@@shatoshi331 Why not?
“ then kd would’ve came to the cavs” LMFAOOO
Draymond didn't play game 5. He played game 6 and 7 and still lost. Bron jus became goated
As a Cavs fan who is born, raise, and still living in Cleveland....Iman has a special spot in my heart. He was awesome. 2016 was amazing. Glad he's chilling and happy.
This was a great series! Cavs at that time were not a superteam....at all! They gelled together and balled hard. Warriors gave them a tough challenge. I will take this Cavs team over the Lakers we see now any day!
Thanks for keeping it real about the splash brothers and Draymond
Lmao Iman lowkey like damn it was rigged but fck it we riding thru it 🤣
Highkey rigged* fans just hate to acknowledge it because they love Bron so much
Exactly. The fix was already in. Game 7 was June 19, 2016. Take a wild guess when the biblical King James was born. 450 years earlier (June 19, 1566). Great storyline all the way around.
@@arthurbarnes6368 Nigga don’t bring the Bible in this nigga
@@arthurbarnes6368 don’t ever compare something True to a Fake world
Lol Draymond don’t do what he did he don’t get suspended. Why does no one ever hold that dude accountable 😅. He had a history of low blows all playoffs. Why do that??? He lucky he wasn’t suspended earlier to be honest when they was playing the Thunder and he kicked Adams.
Iman is my guy! I loved him the most when he played for my NY Knicks! But he's buggin!! CAVS wer down 3-1. Where was Draymond game 4, 6, 7.. draymond hit 30+ points in game 7, how come they still ain't win?!?!
You gotta love draymond for his great leadship.. he doesn't score 20, 30 points every night, but he is extremely effective in that organization.. but stop it!!! He wasn't stopping No KING JAMES!
Curry was having injury problems too, y’all should stop all this talk. The GSW weren’t healthy
Iggy and Bogut were injured. Harrison Barnes was virtually non existent on the court. Steph was coming off injury and finally I must admit. He shrunk in the the big moments. Careless turnovers and couldn’t hit a shot. There’s a real explanation for the L. Nonetheless Cavs took care of they business
I remember that series vividly.. the pick n roll he and Lee or bogut was doing was killing us . He starts the offense leads the defense and handle the half court pg responsibility.... I think y'all need to understand real basketball..
Stop making excuse Lebron didn’t have Kyrie or Love the 1st time see how y’all spin shit for who y’all like
They gifted them that ring
The Lakers vs Celtics were the most gritty finals since Detroit vs Lakers and Detroit vs Spurs. Cleveland had a decent chance with Lebron and Kyrie.
with 3-1? yeah ok..
@@zone_luck5242 without half of the frontcourt in Draymond and Bogut. Hell, even what Wade did being down 0-2 to the Mavs was more to me. Detroit beat the most crewed up Lakers squad and almost took the Spurs out
Love the honesty of this dude. Everybody that say draymond ain’t shit. Their war enemy says the opposite. I’ll take his pov over any armchair opinion
Ppl don’t understand that rivalry was never gonna be bron vs Steph, if the warriors would’ve won in 16 then K was going to Cleveland no doubt, all the news articles and media around the league knew it
Had the Cavs beat a KD warriors team, that would have been the toughest win ever.
I can't even tell if he played for Cleveland or Golden State after hearing this
Don’t forget bogut was out that whole 16’ finals series - that definitely would’ve had an effect on the outcome
Seeee!!! Thats what Im trying to say. Steph klay and dray become an all star or maybe an all time great after beating teams and winning the championship. Only KD was the legit all star player that joined that team (exclude DmC because he aint battling the ball. Its his injury). You can clearly see how fans favored someones team or player and diminished somebody's achievement because of this and that. This is the very 1st time I hear that not biased to GsW "big all star" team. Im not even a fan of them. Anyways, Letzooooo bulllllllsss!!
Like I don’t even know who Bootleg Kev is and I can already tell why he ain’t shit in interviewing lol You just kill the momentum
Iman is just 🔥
Draymond Green is a three-time all star and he’s a three-time all star because he played on the Warriors. People need to learn how to use proper context. Bill Russell had a lot of teammates who were all stars because they played with Bill Russell.
1:42 you guys get your facts wrong-surprising from Cavs/Bron fans who think that one ring in 2016 makes up for losing 3 out of 4 (maybe that's not what these people in the video think but many fans seem to). It was Game 5 in Oakland that Draymond had to sit out. A crucial game-but I think the Cavs won this Finals because Lebron and Kyrie played some of the best ball they ever played from Game 5 on. In the end-it was great for Cleveland and great for the league because it matched some of the intensity of the best of the Lakers/Celtics era in terms of narrative and fandom. Injuries are part of the game-it takes a bit of luck to win a chip. Being healthy is rare at the end of the season. The whole Draymond Green ejection sure had signs of a narrative wanting Cleveland to have some advantage-but Draymond should have known that he would be baited. No excuse for some of the coaching decisions by Steve Kerr at the end of the series-going with Varejao and Ezeli and some of the rotational decisions were wack. As a GSW fan-I'm sure that there was a bit of being too confident that led into what happened-and injuries started early in that playoff run. Going for 73 wins was a risky move that in the end didn't pay off. Us Dubs fans always separate how fun that regular season was from the playoffs; it's a season with ultimately a sour feeling because of that greatness with how badly it ended.
You had 3 chances and blew it. Thanks for the greatest ring in history‼️
If you say they won partly cause dray was out you have to say the year before the only reason warriors won was cause kyrie and love were out and Bron still took tbe warriors to 6 that series
I would’ve loved to see Cavs take it in 2015. Then GS comeback in 2016 73-9 with a ring. That would’ve been amazing 🔥
Dawg I miss him in the league
I don’t get this “if draymond played they would have won” he came back the next game and had the best game of his career and still lost. Think he got 35-8-7 or something. Still took the L. So you can’t act like it’s an automatic dub for them.
See even if he admitted draymond means a lot to the warriors.
This will forever be why LBJ is the goat
Stop
This series is legendary because of the context. But in actuality it wasn't that exciting of a series. All the games were blowouts except game 7.
Agreed
Dirk had the best finals win ever. It's not even close. 🤷🏾♂️
Bruh. The Cavs beat the winningest team ever. With the first 3-1 comeback in Finals history.
@@wellDamnJamz So what! Regular Season wins has nothing to do with the playoffs. Dirk took out Your Goat Wade, and Bosh without a superteam. 😂
@@freshmoney6597 you assume I'm a Bron fan because I have a take about a team he was on? Warriors were defending champs. Warriors were up 3-1. in 2011 Miami was in its first year, Bron still hadn't won a chip. a 3-1 lead comeback finals by itself is enough. let alone against that Warriors team. stop the cap.
@@wellDamnJamz You know nothing about basketball. U let the media control your opinions. The Cavs were better than the Warriors. I don't give a damn about their REGULAR SEASON record. If Kyrie and Love don't get injured the Cavs would've beat the Warriors twice. Bron, Kyrie, and Love is better than Steph, Klay, and Draymond. The Warriors knew that. That's why they got KD. I was not surprised the Warriors lost.. Especially after Draymond's suspension. We were all surprised the Big 3 lost to the Mavs. That was the biggest finals upset ever. Sorry! 🤷🏾♂️
@@freshmoney6597 bruh. its not worth it going back and forth with you cuz its not a good faith conversation when you just jumping to insults and conclusions like a loser. if the convo was best championship run, then I would give it to the Mavs, because obviously somebody as pompous as you knows who the Mavs beat to get to the Finals that year. but because I have a difference in opinion about the Finals themselves I'm on some sheep shit? don't be typical.
🤔 Draymond played Game 7 tho
Its pretty obvious KD ruined his legacy by joining the GSW. Shumperts joking at the end, is how him and most the nba and nba fans feel for real. Cupcake soft asf
tell that to lebron in hi whole career
@@jceldartist3996 i feel ya, him too
He probably found an easysniper tweet right after that like you over starting trouble 😂😂😂Shump
It wasn’t an underdog situation in 2016 it was even the cavs were better in my opinion
Hey Iman, what's your take on JR and his blunder??
Omfg thank you Shumpert if you going to mention the 2016 championship you cant leave out Draymond’s suspension
Green played in game 6 and Bron dropped another 41 on his head 🤣🤣🤣. The Larriors had 3 games to win a championship but they could not. It's their fault that their weak ass team could not beat Bron's team. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love iman he’s cool as hell 😂
K love Kyrie and Lebron plus a bunch of good vets is probably just as if not more stacked than the Warriors.
Idk who this podcast man is, but damn, he interrupt Shump nonstop in every episode. Let Shump talk!! Always seem to go into good stories and you have to butt in with totally different stuff. We watching this Cus of Shump man, no you!!
I just peeped that my name was on the poster in the background
The Warriors weren't officially "The Warriors" we know now in that 14-15 Finals. Bron had those boys where he wanted them but fumbled the bag. Regardless of no Kyrie or Love, they should've beaten the Warriors the first go around as well.
Bruh if u watched that shit u can tell the energy evaporate game 4 and 5. Bron did what he could but its impossible when u have no other cat who can take at least some pressure. Cavs were really beat up Delly was in the IV dude. Bron had a back injury, mosgov was getting benched after he had a great game 3. David blatt was braindead.
The Cavs stood no chance. But it kinda showed me that Bron with jus Kyrie or Love not even both woulda ended them.
Iman is literally admitting that the warriors lost that year because of draymond absence and people had the nerve to deny that
Homie wearing a Sox hat and blowing lebron... c'mon man
This guy keeps it real
Good analogy Iman, 😎
People forget that Bogut was out, Iggy was having back spasms..Steph was 70%.. but hey the Cavs were hurt the prior year...so it all balances out
Bogut wasnt even a starter
@@Vs-hg6xi why he want. Another casual
@@Aboog11 tf is that supposed to mean
@@Vs-hg6xi I see why you said what you did. Comprehension is hard for you. He started
@@Aboog11 he averaged 12 mins yk?
My Dub Nation fans where yous at
Then the big brother called his dad 😂😂
“Toughest Ring he’s ever won?” Doesn’t he have just one ring😂
More than most ppl though 🤷🏽♂️
People forget to mention the injuries and suspensions. That was not the same 73-9 team.
The Warriors are like the Lakers, in that you either REALLY like them, or you REALLY hate them.
He not cappin at the end, KD would've joined the cavs. I still feel like KD and bron teaming up to beat steph klay and Draymond would've been a sight to see. After the thunder lost in 2016 of course. He still would've gotten killed in the media but not as bad cause they blew the 3-1 lead before GS so it wouldve made more sense personally.. KD, Lebron, kyrie and Kevin love vs steph klay Draymond and igoudoula.. ultimate revenge matchup in the 2017 finals had kd joined the cavs.
If KD joined Cavs, Kevin Love probably would have been traded.
Lebron dropped 40 when Draymond wasn't there game 5 and also dropped 40 when dray came back game 6
“Lebron better than kd by a landslide” don’t forget that part lmao
Didn't Dray play in game 6 and 7?
Draymond played 6&7
Dirk, the 7th seed Rockets, and the 2010 Lakers playing 3 straight 50+ win teams before playing the big 3 Celtics must be a joke.
what if? what if gs in 2016 bogut was not injured and d.green was not suspended? i think you'all gonna cry
what if cleveland was healthy in 2015? okay then lol the warriors wouldve lost but theres no asterisk on rings lol history just shows who won and thats it. gotta go to war with the army you have, shorthanded or not
@@treyvonnerobinson yeah and what if 2016 warriors was healthy?
Imagine kd and bron on the cavs 😬😬
Imagine Kd now on a super team. Oh wait he was in okc and lost and left to go join a team that beat them. What a great guy
Lebron would love any free ride like that he could get. Surprised it didnt happen. Neither wants to really compete.
@@buckydoedowner7598 shut up bruh lol you sound ridiculous.
Did Iman win the DWS?I loved his change move wise
BRON is the GOAt
The hardest ring ever seen? Andrew Bogut with broken knee, Andre Iguodala injured, Draymond Green suspended in Game 5, Steph Curry injured with MCL tear had 30 points fouled out early in Game 6 and had only 1 free throw in Games 6 and 7. 2016 and 2020 Championships were the easiest pathways to win in the history of the NBA.
Anyone who praises a fake achievement is an ignorant.
The hardest Championships were 1998, 2010, 2011 and 2022.
why this foo be so high lol
73-9 only matters when ppl try to shame KD
could you imagine..Durant and LBJ?
The toughest championship ever was when Dirk single handed took down the Miami Heat who had prime Lebron, D Wade, Chris Bosh
You are grossly undervaluing Dirks teammates. You cannot win a chip by yourself.
Single handed? Are you drunk ?
I think you forget that mavs team dog walked the west that year in path to the heat
They weren’t scrubs
History gonna remember them as such cause Bron had a bad series
@@loveeveryanime it’s not an undervalue. I’m just pointing out the fact that his squad is not valued as high as the Heat. That’s why everyone in Vegas never gave Dallas a snow balls chance in hell to win.
@@drivenrc I somewhat agree, but I am of the mindset that there are a few that were more impressive to me in terms of difficulty. The Cavs comeback vs the War is an example.
This nigga averaged 3 ppg that finals.
what is he talking about.