The Two Second Club -- Bugatti, Nissan and Porsche | Road and Track
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Breaking the production car 3 second barrier in 0-60 acceleration. Where many have failed, these specimens prevail; one from Japan, one from Germany and a third from France. Read the road test here: bit.ly/neCOmu
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Holy hell... 0-160 in 12.2 seconds? That's simply incredible.
The new 2015 Corvette Z06 can now join this club. Equipped with the 8spd automatic transmission, the new Z06 managed to hit 0-60 mph in 2.95 seconds and cleared the 1/4 mile in 10.95 seconds....Amazing!
Gotta love the "show-off launch control" of the Veyron. Not the fastest way to start of the line, but burns rubber to entertain the crowd. Very nice to finally see it in action! Of course, the best launch is obtained with less tire slip using the "normal" launch conrol. Nice to see Bugatti offer two launch control options.
Why all the hate for the veyron ? It's almost like the vauxhall corsa owners club have made it the car of choice to hate.
It's not a sports car it's a very very very fast luxury gt that's all and as a feat of engineering it has no peer group
Wow! Somebody talking sense! You are indeed rare.
tykiedog ill introduce you to my missus she thinks I am only capable of talking nonsense lol
Something else we've got in common! Hahahaha!!!!
Its hyper
I don't really hate the Veyron.....I don't really like it either. It's undeniably impressive and is dominate at what it does. For me, however, I'd prefer something like a Venom GT, Ford GT (2005-2006), or a Noble M600. Why? Because they're more of a driver's car. I prefer the slower, yet more fun manual transmission. Those cars aren't fancy; they're built for one thing: fun factor. The Veyron is amazing and they should keep doing what they're doing. But if, and that's a big if, I could afford it there's no way I'd buy one. There's not really anything I like about the car but I do respect it and if anyone who doesn't like the Veyron doesn't at least respect it, then they're not true gearheads. TBH, my dream car is a Boss 302 LS, the beauty about cars is that there are so many different cars with different characteristics and people like different things. It comes down to preference.
160mph in 12 seconds. Fucking brilliant!
It's soooo much faster than most sports cars, and does it in a completely low-key and accessible way. It's ten years old now, and so just about being caught for straight line performance by the new supercar bunch, but it's some machine.
The Buggati will always have a place in my Heart
Good job on presenting the data in a nice table.
Bugatti is a beast 12 seconds to 160
Beast? A topfuel funny car would get to 160mph in a little over 2 seconds...
Mega King Grass road car
I know, I was just joking with you. It's true though...
Mega King Grass dragster is super fast. If they used the same fuel type with this car man it will be a bullet
I don't know how that guy didn't have a smile on his face while driving those cars to over 100MPH. I know if I were testing those cars, I'd be smiling the whole timing and shaking. I'd be full of adrenaline.
All of these cars wont get you any sensation of speed. They all are quiet. They pull, but without any drama.
Speed is all that is need to get your adrenaline pumping, of course hard shifts and a loud exhaust can help amongst other things.
The thing is, the GT-R costs less then the Porsche or Bugatti, is a 4 passenger coupe, has a V6 that gets 30mpg on the highway, drives like a luxury sedan, and can be used perfectly fine as an everyday car.
If you don`t mind an uncomfortable 2 seater with occasional back seats that is expensive to run, tyres etc cost plenty.
Can't possibly be as expensive to run and maintain as having an expensive sedan as a daily driver plus a hypercar for the weekends.
Brian Nguyen Horan But more expensive than having a very comfortable saloon and a fast good handling sports car for the weekends, in fact since the Nissan is basically a 2 seater, why not a sports car for everyday use and weekends.
For some people 2 seater just isn't practical. That's why the GT-R is nice cause its a fancy yet fast sports car that can still do productive things.
Brian Nguyen Horan The GTR is not a sports car. it is a 2 seater with 2 occasional back seats which have little purpose and it can do productive things?. Sports cars look good and can also do some very productive things, most of all they are fun
9ff / 918 Spyder would be nice for such a test
+LuaniFFM I agree with the 918 Spyder, but not with the 9ff. I personally dont like tuned cars as much as the originals.
+JETGUYSLPS yes, me too. But I kind of look at the own car models of 9ff as original cars, because only the body is still porsche.
Why does the Buggati get a lot of hate? Is it because you can't afford it?
Texas City ikr
U hit it right on the nose.Same reason the GTR is hated its a hell of a car.
Houston Spartan Cuz its Kiddish car!😂
Fast car... Fast car everywhere... And here I am stuck of Honda civic.. Can't even get 100mph in 15sec
TheKkd123 well keep fighting no matter what my friend to get the car that we want
TheKkd123 honda civic 03 here, it hits 100 fairly fast. It's stock. But i'm getting my 370 this weekend :3 what year was your civic?
Strip the interior, install lighter seats, install a turbo or something? :) If you dont like the stripped look you could always replace the interior panels with like homemade plywood panels covered in black cloth or carbon fiber vinyl wrap or something :) Can look really sweet if done right!
ZotogariGaming or Just get a nice perfect streamlined german car :)
Von Chan Got my 370z a few months before you did. Still in love with it.
That last table shows how insane the Veyron accelerates. 4.9 would be a pretty good time to 60. Doing that to 100 is ridiculous.
great video , loved it
honesty the gtr would be the best buy out of the 3. It's the cheapest and you could throw more $$$ into it to make it faster.
+DriftTek except its a Nissan, so yeah...no
the best steal the camaro z28😎
+DriftTek I like ur thinking is not about brand sometimes is about what u get with ur money, if ur running a company i am positive ur make 30% profit every year
But it's an automatic tho
+DriftTek Except the ride quality, interior, and weight are all shit. Throw on a warranty that is complete bullshit, and a car that is well over 100 grand now.
Imagine a modified w16.
My point exactly if you were to tune a W16 engine it could make more than 2000hp i think
Easily!
Out of the 3, the Porsche will still run after the same number of launches and track day visits. Porsche out ranked even Lexus and Toyota for the #1 spot on ConsumerReports reliability list for a few years since 2010, constantly ranking top 10
exactly, my uncle has had a carrera 4s for 10 years now and faced no problem with the car, porsche is the best engineered german car, even above mercedes
+Timon Cucak Yea but the Mercedes reliability is an issue so the "great engineering" kinda goes or the window with it
Wooooowwww!!! These machines are not simply cars... They are all rockets!!!
By the way, the GT-R does not hide its original NISSAN identity behind INFINITI badges, and for this reason I like this car even more: the NISSAN badges make this car even more radical!!!
Joan (John in Catalan). Barcelona.
PD. I love the INFINITIS, too...
The mere fact the GT-R is next to a $200,000 Porsche and a $2 Million Dollar Veyron tells you that:
#1 the future of high performance cars HAS NO MANUALS IN IT.
#2 is ALL WHEEL DRIVE
#3 Won't be terribly expensive.
too bad the c7 corvette beat the 2014 GTR track edition with 100 hp less, rwd and only 60k
jeremiah donovan
I'd buy a GT-R before a Corvette.
AWD and it's more spacious.
as soon as the car is moving the AWD does nothing but weigh the car down, thats extra weight in turns that isnt helping you, if you want space get a minivan thats not what the cars are made for.
The AWD makes the car STABLE. Whilst accelerating through computerized torque vectoring.
All new supercars have AWD with an automatic. RWD cars aren't as stable with that much power.
My car has 500HP.
My Jeep SRT is way more stable.
Actually take back the comment on the la ferrari its not awd its another hyper car capable of over 250 mph and rwd
100,000 dollar car vs 2 million dollar car
It's called the two second club. These cars are not racing against one another. At this time these was the only 3 production cars stock that could do 0 to 60 before 3 seconds. Now there is 3 other cars that has joined the club. Laferrari P1 and 918. Since this video the Turbo S and GTR has gotten faster. But stock vs stock there is no GTR that can beat a Turbo S. It's a very close race but the Turbo S gets off the line and pulls harder than the nismo GTR. Around a track the GTR nismo has it no discussion.
Well said. I completely agree with you dude.
Fuck all this stupid bantering on who's better.. I'd take all three of them if I could... I don't see the point behind getting all worked up on defending "your" favorite car. No matter what you tell to anyone, each person will have their own opinion and likes on any particular car. Hell many will love the GT-R over the Veyron, and many will do the same for the Porsche over the other two... in the end, the three of these would look nice in a three car garage... of course since the Veyron in this bunch, it would probably be some 16 plus car garage next to some multi-million dollar estate....
no tie, only best
Veyrons only got double the bhp...the porsh and Nissan are obviously the better ones considering theyre almost as fast with half the power
Almost as fast? Whats almost as fast can these cars do at least 250mph? Do these cars weigh 4100lbs like the bugatti?
great video
Great vid! There all amazing cars
agera r?
Yes and you can buy like 20 GTRs for the price of one Bugatti.....that means something to most people.
wrong the gtr costs 67000 pounds. Which is more than 45 gtrs for the price of one bugatti.
yeah and you STILL have a POS nissan that nobody wants and the resale is for shit.
+THE BOSS 09 gtr price is still the same price in 2017.
wow, awesome work bringing these three cars together and testing them so unbiasedly =D The GTR is such a bang for buck vehicle isnt it ?! Whilst heavier and much less torque:weight ratio the Veyron just oozes power you cannot deny =) I cannot help but feel Porsche 'made sure' their car was going to beat GTR this year..not that there is anything wrong with that.
This black bugatti with chrome line is so beautiful!
Where's the Prius it goes from 0 to slowest car in 0.1 seconds
lol All the try hards here digging on the Veyron.
Running the GTR that hard, you'll have a busted transmission within the first 10k. Impressive numbers, still a $50,000 Nissan tho.
The Porsche 911 is better engineered, but also costs a lot more. Still doesn't change the fact that you can't run it THAT hard and not expect something expensive to break.
The Veyron is on a different level. It was designed to achieve acceleration and a top speed of 260mph+ day in and day out. The only wear item you'd have to be worried about is tires, and maybe a tank of gas.
The Veyron is priced for the resources it needs to do what it does. It's heavy because its made of custom parts that are designed for the performance its meant to do. Much of the Nissan GTR is derived from parts from either an existing platform or parts made to a budget. It's a nice car... I'd take one in a heartbeat if someone gave me the keys.
The Porsche, again, has parts from other production cars and is produced to a budget. IMO, it's probably the best 500hp car you can buy with a production budget that suits the performance its designed for - still will not be as reliable or as solid of a platform than the Veyron.
Okay then, what about the porsche 918 spyder, doesn't spend much gas since it's a hybrid, 0-60 in a mere 2.2 seconds, top speed of 210 mph which is still to high to ever reach even on a track, very reliable since it has german engineering, one of, if not the best one on the world, has all the luxury a high end car has (compare the veyron interior to that of the 918 spyder and all the little gadgets and luxurious you get along with technology and electronics) a nice design and a car that is also very good in all other aspects of performance like for instance taking a turn, somehting so basic yet forgotten by many because of the extreme concentration on just top speed and acceleration, this is proven since the 918 did the nurburging in 6:57, i think it's the second or third fastest road legal vehicle around, the old veyron did it on 7:40, the new one? there isn't a lap time but even a massive improvement of say 20 seconds would still be far off, one thing is for sure though, it's not breaking the 7 minute mark. so as you can see the porsche 918 spyder is way superior in every way to the bugatti except for top speed, and how much will it set you back? 845k, that is exactly 1,581,904 dollars less than the bugatti, and im sure that if porsche wanted to make a 260mph+ car they could very well do and make it just as good if not better than bugatti and still cost WAAAAY less, but since they are a smart company who makes the best cars for the best price they don't, because it's utterly useless, trust me, the veyron is (for it's price) a bad car, it's the best way to dump 2.4 million dollars just to show you're rich and have a useless top speed, don't get me wrong I respect bugatti and it's engineers for making a car that goes that speed and still remains stable, it's still amazing engineering, but it's extremely overpriced and useless to buy one, bugatti can shove their resources and custom parts up their ass, they are just trying to make good money from supercars, im sure it doesn't cost half as much to actualy produce the bugatti and if it does then I don't really know where all the money is going because what you get compared to what you pay is ridicoulous, the veyron isn't on any level and it's not a solid platform since it doen't gove you the whole package like the porsche does, hell, it doesn't even give you 1/6 of the package
***** First of all theres no real reason to put 918 against veyron manufacturer wise since both are owned by VAG. They are both german engineering and reliable and in case of veyron we know it since it has so many cars built (over 400) and sold - some have over 100k miles on them which is insane for a supercar. Second thing is that 918 is supercar on steroids while veyron is a more of a GT car on steroids. GT cars have always been more luxury oriented, heavy, lots of comforts, high end stereo, lots of soundproofing, more of a of low end torque pulling beast than high revving screamer, reasonable ground clearence, smooth in slow city traffic unlike most of the supercars etc. Theres just so much more things in cars than just some dry 0-60 or track lap time numbers. Finally, the 918 is a top notch new hypercar while veyron is 10 year old.
Also the veyron has never done an official lap on ring - that 7:40 was done by journalists, with loaned car, with hired driver and in traffic with overtakings. Thats the shitty things about ring, everyone look at the times but don't take into account how it was done. Some tests are done by magazines where hired driver gets to do like 4-5 laps in traffic and thats it, weather might not be perfect etc. while in some other car's case manufacturer has rented box at the ring, their test driver has done over 1500 laps (like corvette for example) taking telemetry, adjusting, doing some more laps, picking perfect weather with perfect air humidity, track temperature, air tremperature etc.
Aur0n Well if the Veyron is so luxury oriented then how come the 918 spyder actually has more than 3 times more luxuries inside? Compare both interiors and you can quickly see the veyron almost looks stripped out, barely has air con and a radio, and if it's so GT how come it drinks gasoline like nothing, the 918 is infinetely more fuel efficient and just as comfy, it seems as if you didn't read my comment, it's pretty clear the 918 is more road focused than anything, everything you said about GT cars applies to the 918, and doesn't really to the veyron, seriously read my previous comment again, it answers to you perfectly well, which i rather ironic, but it does. The veyron is a physics experiment, it isn't GT by any means, it's simply built to achieve a high top speed easily.
***** you ever heard that less is more? You define luxury by how much visible buttons there are visible at first glance? Look at RR's or even new S class - theres not many buttons and knobs. Veyron's stereo may look simple but in reality its vwry expensive and custom built specifically for veyron so it plays disxs without a problem even at over 400km/h. Veyron isn't as advanced as P1 or 918 in the sense of being a modern hybrid hypercar but it surely still passes when it comes to materials being used and the engineering precision. Yes it is a guzzler but its 10 yeaes old, the engine is bulletproof and has lots of low end torque. I mean veyron's redline is what - 6500rpm but under heavy acceleration shifts at 5500 which is really low for a such huge horsepower engine.
Aur0n no i've never heard of such incoherent shit as less is more, im not talking about all the knobs you can visibly see, im talking about all the actual gadgets and luxuries you find in the 918 and not in the veyron, it's a high end stereo, big deal, it's a 2.4 million dollar car, it better be a bloody good stereo, the 918 also has a good stereo, but other than a stereo and air con, it doesn't have much more, if anything really, so I find it rather stupid to pay 1.8 million dollars more than for a 918 and all you get is an uglier looking car with a top speed you will never reach, slower around a track (a.k.a worst handling), slower acceleration and way fewer luxuries, less fuel efficient as well. so whats the point?
The last time this feat was achieved was 10 years ago by Nismo Skyline GT-R racing under the same number 23. Despite the weight handicap, it did in fact become the champion in this 2008 season through the Xanavi Nismo GT-R driven by Satoshi Motoyama and Benoit Treluyer, as well as winning 8 out of 9 races driven by 4 different teams using GT-Rs.
The GT500 version scored 4 victories in the 2009 Japanese SUPER GT Series GT 500 class.
Great video. Now we need the 2013 update for the 2014 model cars.
Why won't they put the 918 vs the Bugatti? Bugatti mist be paying them to look the Best?
this video 3 year old my friend
Bugatti is a Luxury car and the 918 is a race/sports car. They are not really comparable to be honest but it would still be fun to look at.
I think there is a video on Youbube of a 918, Maclaren p1 and a Bugatti doing a drag race.
J.R. Elgran Bugatti and Porsche are both part of the same company - the Volkswagen group.
bighands69 yeah ive seen it its a m5board video or moscow500 unlimited i think, that massive runway an same dutch or german guy filming in car the ginger hair guy thats always telling people go faster an get the right gear ready lol lot of rich talent less drivers in his vids it seems
+J.R. Elgran Difficult to race a car that doesn't exist.
I was driving a red Porsche Turbo S when my mom woke me up.
+royalfinest shitingcar
Don't forget it takes a lot of hard work to get to the point of owning cars like these! Start saving your pennies...I like to keep in mind that while many people are dreaming, watching youtube vids of cars like these, the people that actually own vehicles like this are prolly busting ass, wheeling and dealing at work. Use it for motivation!
It also is the 2011 and 2012 Champion. Team Mola GT-R with drivers Ronnie Quintarelli and Masataka Yanagida got back to back championships in both Team and Driver in the Super GT500
2 Dubs vs a Nissan....Any questions?
lmfao! Yep...
0-160 in 12 secs.... id lose my license in a week
that was great dude
And here we are 8 years later, with the base Corvette running 2.8s 0-60... What a world
Say it with me America. Niss-an. Not Nee-sawn. Niss-an
It's definitely not Niss-an. Americans pronounce Nissan very similarly to the Japanese, which is the correct way. I'm guessing you're British.
MegaDannypoo No. Irish. Well the Australians say Nissen. But at least they don't add extra letters to the pronunciation. Nee-sawn off shotgun.
+Dean Murphy Correct pronunciation is NEE-SAN, not NISS-AN. It's a Japanese brand.
sodazman That still isn't as bad as the American pronunciation where it takes them a while to say it.
Jee Tea Aaaahr ...YOSHHHHH!!!
You seriously have to give it up to the GTR for holding its own. If you equipped the GTR with additional upgrades spending the same exact money the 911 cost. The GTR would make the 911 its bitch. And upgrading both the GTR, and 911 to what is spent on the Bugatti. Enough said-GTR wins, and its a 4 seater, come on! GTR though not the prettiest-fawking rock!
David Justice The GTR is quick no doubt. However, it is uninspiring to drive and generic looking. It has to punch a giant hole in the air, thus giving it a very higher drag coefficient compared to the rest and has no soul. Definitely not a "drivers" car. Sorry.
Never apologize for speaking/typing your mind Rene. Your right, the GTR isn't the best looking at all, but remember it is a 4 seater. And yes, granted you'll probably only be able to fit midgets in the back but still worth noting. I think had it not been a 4 seater, it would have been designed to be a better looking vehicle. It has a soul, just not a pretty one. :D
Rene M look up the race between the ninja motorcycle and the GTR.And tell me then about air dynamics.And until u see that video Im not listening shit you comment on becouse you are unqualified.
Shawn Andrew Wow, another genius...lol. you are right I cannot tell you or anyone
anything about "air dynamics" as you said. I was talking about the aerodynamics of
the gtr which you have so eloquently stated you are unfamiliar with. I
was specifically comparing the turbo s, bugatti, and the gtr; the ones
in the video. If you really want to discuss the "air dynamics" in regards to the gtr and a ninja then go to that video and leave all the comments you want. Have fun!
Wow another genius?One Question have u seen the vid or no?The bugatti is in the video also nimrod thats why I told you to check it out.So the genius comment u can keep.And if you cant offer other opinions based on other outlets of info mabey you should leave comments somewhere else.And no shit you where talking about the airdynamics of the gtr.Its not rocket science guy.
Porsche turbo is up to 0-60 2.5 seconds!! (EVO magazine/European Car magazine/Road and track 2.6 sec)
One problem with that reasoning, SSC Aero is not approved as production car because it never went to the mandatory emission standard or test so it registered as kit-car. That particular model used for the record (invalided for a long time) ran on racing fuel. The rest will never fully replicate that performance
With the price of the Porsche I would buy a Nissan GT-R AMS Alpha 9, that is as fast as the Bugatti.
Yeah only to 150 kph
Sean Quinn ok... and what about an AMS Alpha12 ?!
Alexandre Fernandes and as for AMS Alpha Omega?(:
Maksim Maiorov No Nissan is fast as Bugatti... Only Agera R is good Competition...
MrAce2333 AMS is not 100% Nissan if is what you are meaning?!
Otherwise see dragtimes page one youtube!
I will take the gtr any day. over a 2.2 million dollars car plus the 911 turbo. Japanese engineering is the best.
+Vladimir Yemelyanov
Don't even bother, these GTR fanboys are obsessed with power for the $.
They could care less wether their car is made of plastic or titanium.
No taste at all.
slow cars? are u really that delusional
There are three new cars on this club!
-Ferrari Laferrari
-McLaren P1
-Porsche 918 Spyder
Guess who's the KING on this context!?
Porsche!!!! :) 0-62 mph time of 2.8 seconds, a 0-125 mph time of 7.9 seconds, a 0-188 mph time of 23 seconds
Porsche 918 Spyder to 60 in 2.4 and 10 flat at 145 mp/h in the quarter, insaneee!!!
Ray G Laferrari is 0-186mph in 15 seconds, so of the three the LaFerrari would win. And the P1 would be second which has 0-186mph in 16.5 seconds.
So if there was a race between them, Porsche wins start, and after 100mph the LaFerrari will surge past, and the P1 behind it.
The king is the Fiat Abarth
not even close the smart for two will rip that thing up!! LOL :}
That Veyron is sweet! It's almost as quick as a stock Ford Mustang Cobrajet!
AKA the 1.6 second club!!
who would prefer a fucking nissan over a porsche or bugatti
Me
I'm part of the two second club too, just sat my girlfriend.
The test here was awesome.
Some of the test......just like ...maybe childrens" game!
Way to post those numbers. Yea!
Cheetah still accels faster than these
jajajaja bullshit. ok now put GTR ALPA12 and what car you want koenigsegg, bugatti th what you want, lets see the results ;)
Well, what if you tune the Porsche too? Porsche > Nissan
Mad Mark Porsche < Bugatti < GTR Alpha 12
Nice, you tune a porsche OK now i tune again a GTR look that first the talk.
/watch?v=YwYAITo93pA
Noone drives these car on the road they are pure drag race monsters not road car have you seen them on trucks coming to drag times? i have so yeah not a road car at all
thecar1888 Nismo can BEAT Bugatti, Alpha 12 can KILL Bugatti, Alpha 16 can DESTROY Bugatti and Bugatti fanboys
Just for fun, and to keep up with the latest from Bugatti, read the specs on the new "Super Veyron" that they are currently working on. It has been upgraded to 1,600 hp, turns 0-60 in 1.8 seconds, and has a top speed of 288 mph. Those speed numbers put it in a category just behind some top fuel machines. Their main impediment at this time is, as always with any super fast car, finding tires that will safely match the performance of what the pros are calling: "The ultimate pavement ripper."
I agree!
Too bad for you Bugatti lovers... The new 2014 Nissan GTR Nismo does 0-60 in 2secs flat! & doesn't cost almost 3million dollars! Lmao (2.8Mill is absurd for a car! Buy a house, invest, donate to charity, something anything else!)
Clearly you don't understand cars like the Bugatti. Try doing 260+ in a GTR. Also, after 60, the Veyron will fucking destroy the GTR, don't kid yourself. The Koenigsegg Agera R is the only thing that will take down the Veyron.
sherman3211 Actually the Bugatti is equally matched to the Agera R.The original top speed of Bugatti was 276 mph and was forced to reduce the top speed 252 due to United State laws.While the Agera R topped in on 276 as well but wasn't forced to bring it down but Koenigsegg decided to bring the speed down to 260 anyways. Koenigsegg brought down the speed very recently so not many people know about this. And since people were racing them unevenly the Agera R was considered the fastest road legal car in the world.
MegaMacStudios Yeah just because of friggin Laws...
Isaiah R Also Nismo... 2 Sec? No way... Bugatti 0.60 in 2.58 and i think thats fastest... Not sure about Agera through.... You cant go from 0-60 in 2 sec because you loose like 1 second on start... So you're left on like 0.7-1 second to get to 60mph... No car can do that as far as I know...
AAAAND
Whats GTR Nismo's Top Speed? Bugatti will just leave it in smoke cause 252 mph cant be compared with nismo's top speed... Only Agera can beat 252... Cause its going 260mph
Isaiah R The Nismo won't do 0-60 in 2 seconds flat, more like 2.5. But what about after 60? The Veyron will do 0-186 mph in 14.6 seconds, no stock GTR can touch that.
MegaMacStudios
I was speaking only in terms of acceleration. The races posted recently on youtube between the Agera R and Veyron Super Sport show that the Koenigsegg accelerates quite a bit faster. Can't comment on top speed until I see two production versions go back to back and try it.
3 different cars = 3 different budgets.
Veyron for people out of this world
Porsche for people who donesn't know what to do with money
GTR is an "affordable" supercar
GTR + Alpha beats them all!
The Alphas are custom cars. GTR better be careful. Because one day Bugatti is like a sleeping giant and will one day come out with a 2500HP beast and start crushing GTR skulls.
The Veyron never was built for 0-60 or even 1/4 races. It was built to be the most stable and fastest production car. Take it to a two mile strip. The reason there aren't custom jobs for the Veyron is because it's so bad ass right off the showroom floor. No need to customize it. The GTR, not so much.
And the Veyron is so expensive, only the most rich can afford one.
EeeScape Phoenix Tunned GTR (AMS, Switzer etc...) is much better (faster in drag race, faster on track and much, much cheaper) than Veyron, Deal with it!!!
You can take this GTR and race it whatever Veyron you want, whatever distance you want and GTR will beat it in every parameter.
Again: DEAL WITH IT!!!!
dato666 Unfortunately, the GT-R modded just becomes tons more unreliable. As it is, the GT-R is just a heavily modified, turboed datsun(not saying it is bad).
The Veyron is also huge and is solely aimed at going in a straight line with no driving feel.
The Agera R beats them all
We can argue about reliability for a very long time, but if we talk about facts here is one of them (Agera R is a fantastic car, but it already comes out of the factory when fully utilizing all of it's potential):
www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/Switzer-GT-R-hits-250mph-2013-10-22
dato666 Wow. I just read your comment and didn't have time to read it all until now. First of all, you can't say, "faster" when the custom GTRs are NOT faster. They beat the Veyron on the quarter mile (so do WRX and Evos and drag Mustangs for less money than the custom GTRs, so what?). Some other races were done on the 1 mile strip, but even in these cases they aren't pushing the cars to their top speed limits like the Veyron has done.
"whatever distance you want and GTR will beat it in every parameter"
Bullshit!
The Switzer reached 249MPH. That's not faster than the original Veyron@ 253.81 mph. The Super Sport Veyron reached 267.856 mph and is the new top speed for the Veyron class. You'll even see a story in the link you provided for the Ford GT's world record at 283.232mph. These super street cars are specifically built for top speed. As in FASTEST, not quickest in quarter mile or one mile tracks. So it is you that needs to "DEAL WITH IT."
The GTRs base price starts at 100k so of course you'll have more room for the tuners to use it as a base platform and it's much easier than having a few million dollars to "tune." The Veyron and Ford GT, not so much. Those cars are pushing the limits of aerodynamics and are very expensive because of this. These are different type of cars designed for different performance purposes.
Indeed, there are some tires that are designed to handle high velocities on certain types of vehicles, such as dragsters, funny cars, and aircraft. But in the case of high speed runs lasting more than a 1/4 mile or so the materials in the tire builds up tremendous heat and will only retain their integrity for a short period of time. With the Bugatti, that time period exceeds the tolerance of many performance tires. Therefore the engineers must choose wisely.
Kit car does not necessarily need own assembling, here it means any car have not passed the mandated standard test to qualify as production car. Venom GT on its own is not a production car because Hennessey registered it as the already approved Lotus Exige to avoid registration as kit car.
Porsche is porsche !!! 409 kmh !! ;) nissan shit funs ))
Porshe OVERPRICED BullSHIT!
welmar falame
Stop bitching. You cant even afford one.
The 2014 model GTR will crush the porsche now! Not to mention the GTR Nismo
Hell Yeah!
LOL, how cute gtr fan boys. Keep forgetting that porsche updates its 911 turbo S too. When the drag race takes places then only should one talk. On paper the gtr has the faster 0-60 time but from all the 911 turbo S video I have seen, it beats the gtr. Bring on the GTR NISMO and lets see what the 911 GT2/ GT2 RS can do in comparison. See what I did there? I did not assume that either car will win. What you did was making an assumption based on number Nissan gave out and without even seeing the car in any video yet. :)
Kumar5155 Not a fan boy sorry, i just like the GTR because its competitive. The new porshe turbo S might edge the regular GTR 35, but there is no way in hell that Porsche beating the GTR Nismo!
No way! Even 2015 GTR can destroy any GT class Porsches and Nismo....I believe it may create the quickest non stock or tuned 0-60 time
ROCKETGUNS BOOMBS Most definitely, I know it would be a close race tho... but this fool Kumar5155 is dreaming if he thinks the new porsche is seeing the GTR Nismo. It would hardly be a race...
handling, braking, ability to keep speed through corners, grip
Yeah you're right. I think the Adventador also has a significant aerodynamic advantage on the GTR.
i would love the 911, it would eat the bugatti at a track
pff lmao
COFF COFF koeniggsegg one COFF COFF
#clear throat# Agera R #clear throat#
Mazwi Zwane XD but the One:1 will be much faster....sheer data tell this
Giuliano Napolitano Just Checked it out. shitttttttttt! what a car :)
Koenigsegg would got beaten badly by veyron (4.9 seconds vs 6-7 seconds 0-200) but after that , kornigsegg would accelerate insanely fast.
Totally agree cough*
I agree, and don't get me wrong I love bikes, but in this scenario sports bikes especially liter bikes have way better power to weight ratio, so they have that performance.
the bugatti is only straight line speed. the porsche and gtr are way better
The bugatti isnt even the fastest production car.
exactly and it looks like a squirrel
when we see each other on the street and I smoke your two cars with my Veyron, will you cry and ask to go to the race track? lmfao
+DrFameGaming well technically and officially its is
I am sorry GTR fans,you can even make a micra do 0-60 in 3 secs by tweaking the engine and put on new suspension,gearbox,differentials..........but there is something about cars like ferrari,porsche and bugatti,that makes them special.A grace,which the GTR will never have no matter how much fast it can go.Oh,and by the way,this car will never be as awesome as the old skyline..........
Ajay Janardhan your argument is retarded
With the money you save, you can buy a Ferrari or Porsche.
And you must be uninformed because the GTR is respected in the car community, just like the Supra and NSX.
Olengher you have no idea what you are talking about.
The car went on to win the opening race of the 2008 Super GT season at Suzuka scoring a one-two finish for Nissan. The dominant performances in the opening race has led to all GT-Rs being applied a 50 kg weight penalty. In race two, the GT-R repeated their 1-2 result in Suzuka despite the race winning car of team Nismo carrying a 100 kg weight penalty making it only the 3rd team in JGTC/Super GT history to do so.
uhmm. i really liked the last car, is it good in mileage? i want one !
If you're in the club of people buying this kind of cars, you don't have to think about the mileage
saksi kasi
you are my hero!
How do you put a nissan with two unbelievable, exotics like this? It dont belong and it pisses me off! I can put 1000 hp in a mustang still doesnt deserve to be sitting next to these beauties!!!!!!!!!!! I hate that nissan again nissan not porsche, bmw, bugatti, maybach, lamborghini,mercedes, ferrari!!!!!!! Infinity glorified nissan! lexus glorified toyota! There is a difference here believe me a volkswagon is built better than that nissan!..........................All day!
It's called the 2 second club. At the time of the video. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Corvettes or any other production car can't get a sub 3 second 0 to 60 time. That's why it belongs. Even your hypothetical mustang with 1000 hp probably wouldn't get a sub 3 second 0 to 60 time. It would just sit there and spin it's tires. I bet you've never even driven a GTR.
Gtr is still a piece of shit NISSAN! I dont care if it goes 0-60 in 1 sec. And a 1000 horse mustang with the wright suspention and tires would wheelie like a mans car not spin the tires!!!!! Besides porsche bmw is were its at anyway! I like lambo's and ferraris very fast and unbelievable put together well, But that gtr is over priced piece of shit!
Thank you!
take the money spent on the buggati .. buy a gtr . modificate it turbo and stuff it will be best car ever .. cheap simple and fast
Also, it matters by the driver. Which car he wanted to win. GT-R is 0-60 2.6 secs. not 2.9.
I like the idea of 0-60 in less than 3. I just wish we had a street tire and stock trans that would allow a rwd car to do it efficiently. I like awd in certain conditions, but not a track car.
Crying GTR fanboys everywhere :DDD
why would they cry? lol... theyre in a fking club with a bugatti and a porsche.
each 0.1 second below 3 is a huge difference, once it's getting to the extremes, it's hard to cut time off.
I am sorry , what is the 0-60 for the Hennessey Venom and SRT Demon , I forgot ?
yes it is it outperforms many other super cars
It's not a 350, the Venom GT has a Twin Turbo LS7 427 sitting in there that makes 1244bhp and 1155lb-tq. But it does hold the Guinness World Record of 0-300kmph @ 13.63 sec and the Hypercar World Record of 0-200mph @ 14.51 sec.
Of those three, GT-R has the best look by far. It's also the least expensive.
But hell, it would be nice to be able to reply to the usual "how big an engine does your car have" with "1200. Horsepower.".
I see your point, but according to you, if it sounds good and looks cool its a super car. The very article you mentioned said that the title super car is "in the eyes of the beholder", and in the third paragraph down says "Yes, Nissan, with its GT-R, is a full fledged member of the supercar club". Don't be calling me the noob.
Well Said!
I wonder if the gtr was a (530) or 550 bhp version, makes a difference on the 0-60 times plus look at the $£€ difference!
With all of these new hybrid and electric systems coming out and rumors that the new GTR will have a hybrid system..how much faster are these cars going to get? It's going to be funny one day having a drag race with no engine noise and with 0-60 times in 1 second or less.
Was proper equipment used for these measurements? And is it considered that 60 mph is not 100 kph?
Funny, it's most likely these 3 cars are still factory tuned. The Bugatti will win hands down on its factory tune. If you tuned all of the 3 cars to there maximum potential then the outcome will be unknown.
not at all trolling here jeremy, but i have to agree with you 100%...can't do better for the money then a GTR..and when you're a stoplight, you're not thinking about a nice interior...lolol...GTR's rock and looking forward to the new nismo.
o yea! my best 0-60 in my car was 5.6 with bad tires tho. That veyron kick ass
Bringing the Veyron to a 500-bhp shootout is like bringing a howitzer to a spot a few miles from a gunfight and firing off a few rounds... :) a good thing now there's far more capable opponents in similar class to all of the contestants in here.
The veyron looks good tom me on the track. Top Gear test times.
1:13.8 - Pagani Huayra
1:14.3 - BAC Mono
1:15.1 - Ariel Atom 500 V8
1:16.2 - McLaren MP4-12C
1:16.5 - Lamborghini Aventador
1:16.8 - Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo S
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Nissan GT-R (2012)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold)
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4
they are doing this on el touro
The awd system isn't the only reason the R35 is so quick. The awd plus aero plus the amazingly designed and tuned engine is why. The corvette and viper still wont beat a R35.
(Correction) with small tuning along the those stock cars.
Mad props to Porsche and Nissan. Pretty sure if either wanted to they could make something like the Bugatti if they also doubled up on cylinders.
that 997 was way more powerful than 530hp. did they roll them on a dyno before the test? 0-170 in 18sec translates in over 650hp