1100hp GT-R v 911 Turbo S v Rallycross: DRAG RACE

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
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    Thanks to JM Imports for lending us their GT-R: @jmimports
    How's THIS for a line-up?!
    Mat's rolled up in a tuned GT-R, and he's facing off against the all-conquering Porsche 911 Turbo S and an absolutely rapid electric rallycross car!
    So let's take a closer look at the stats. Starting with the GT-R, it's equipped with a 3.8-litre twin-turbo V6, coupled with a whole lot of other upgrades, and as a result, can put down an eye-watering 1100hp & 1270Nm of torque! It weighs in at 1,720kg, and when you add the cost of the work done to it with the original price of the car, it'll set you back around £120,000.
    Of course, the Porsche is more expensive, coming in at £169,000. And as we all know by now, it's powered by a mighty 3.8-litre twin-turbo flat-six that's good for 650hp & 800Nm. It's also lighter than the GT-R, tipping the scales at 1,640kg.
    And finally, we have the rallycross car. It's housing a total of FOUR electric motors, which combine to produce 820hp and 900Nm! What's more, despite being an electric car, it's the lightest car in this line-up, coming in at 1,600kg! Oh, and it's easily the most expensive, costing around £550,000!!
    So what do you think - will the electric power of the rallycross car propel it to victory? There's only one way to find out - LET'S RACE!
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  Рік тому +984

    Which car do you think will win?! VOTE BELOW!

  • @amirnaim3675
    @amirnaim3675 Рік тому +10495

    The fact that the stock 911 Turbo S could keep up with a built GTR and a rallycross car is really impressive

    • @mattmasi303
      @mattmasi303 Рік тому +302

      Yea also 1100hp is hard to put town on a normal surface with normal tires

    • @tahaak
      @tahaak Рік тому +637

      Imagine what would happen if you tune that 911

    • @tyablo
      @tyablo Рік тому +314

      @@mattmasi303 have you ever seen 1100 hp ES 911s f*ck everything that moves? you need to see ;)

    • @peperoninja387
      @peperoninja387 Рік тому +20

      @@tyablo is it the current model 911? Or the older ones?

    • @Youcallthesebagels_
      @Youcallthesebagels_ Рік тому +31

      @@tyablo nope watch some auto glory, they dont fuck everything that moves. a fbo b58 can gap one

  • @user-ko1uk9un4m
    @user-ko1uk9un4m Рік тому +2604

    That Porsche 911 Turbo S is a piece of art.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Рік тому +62

      And sounds lame..
      Meh, also when we talk about pieces of art we usually talk about exotic looking vehicles or more beautifully esigned cars. The turbo S looks good but the styling is quite basic and full of plastic, work of art? Porsches have never been the best looking supercars, and never will be, that's why their shape resembles that more of a VW beetle.

    • @Mvrk63
      @Mvrk63 Рік тому +29

      Art? There's nothing art about a turbo s.

    • @currycel470
      @currycel470 Рік тому +98

      @@roboticvenom1935 really? have you ever seen 918?

    • @idroveslow
      @idroveslow Рік тому +120

      @@roboticvenom1935 you got golf gti in ur pfp and talking about how bad porsche design is?

    • @Deniz69567
      @Deniz69567 Рік тому +13

      @@roboticvenom1935 VW owns porsche duh 🤡

  • @flipflapflopontherocks1085
    @flipflapflopontherocks1085 Рік тому +572

    Do you realize that you need a 1100hp car to beat a stock 911? This car is simply incredible

    • @peterhammer4644
      @peterhammer4644 Рік тому +24

      no you dont. Much less is enough as proven many times in Carwow.

    • @ZeerXX
      @ZeerXX Рік тому +22

      GTR issue is the traction. Its just too much power for the overall design.

    • @gahagahabahaga1289
      @gahagahabahaga1289 Рік тому +33

      @@peterhammer4644 911 turbo s basically shat on every car and supercar so far

    • @peterhammer4644
      @peterhammer4644 Рік тому

      @@gahagahabahaga1289 yes in sound especially 😂😂😂😂

    • @artgreen6915
      @artgreen6915 Рік тому +6

      @@gahagahabahaga1289 no. I seem to remember with a Ferrari SF90 recently, albeit much more expensive, it was the other way around.

  • @soyanchd5439
    @soyanchd5439 Рік тому +191

    The Turbo S is really something else, all you needed to beat it is about twice the horsepower and an half a million dollar purposed built electric rally car

    • @c9o8l7i6n5
      @c9o8l7i6n5 7 місяців тому

      all you need is a tesla plaid 40.000 cheaper

  • @johncarlofernandez2698
    @johncarlofernandez2698 Рік тому +1424

    Just another episode of Porsche 992 Turbo S being an engineering masterpiece

    • @user-bf8yi3ky5v
      @user-bf8yi3ky5v Рік тому

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    • @CS-op6zp
      @CS-op6zp Рік тому +66

      And not even a lightweight. They're batshit fast for something with a warranty and insane comfort.

    • @blurckbud
      @blurckbud Рік тому +11

      Felt like another 911 ad tbh

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 Рік тому +1

      Yup looses every test yet still gets it’s balls sucked by the usual fan boys! 😒

    • @memyself2458
      @memyself2458 Рік тому +1

      ,,,ya when is new just don't service it :)

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +1552

    That Porsche 911 Turbo S never fails to make us say wow!

    • @Sviming1ne
      @Sviming1ne Рік тому +29

      Loooove the Porsche. Insane performance straight out of the box with no extra tuning/mapping.

    • @MrWalkeR3084
      @MrWalkeR3084 Рік тому

      Indeed!

    • @garethpendlebury7996
      @garethpendlebury7996 Рік тому +12

      @@Sviming1ne and I'm sure it's done that quarter in 10.1

    • @lyubohar
      @lyubohar Рік тому +1

      Word. Amazing vehicle, this. Gives some crazily modified cars a run for their money.

    • @rdmz135
      @rdmz135 Рік тому

      @@garethpendlebury7996 it has but you cant compare times on different days. surface conditions and tyre temps vary too much. on the day it did a 10.1, the other 2 wouldve done 10s or less

  • @sdoubleu210
    @sdoubleu210 Рік тому +224

    The amount that it takes to beat a stock Turbo S is just insane...Also, think that GTR could use some increased rear LS compression damping lol that squat is insane

    • @stijnvanhees5281
      @stijnvanhees5281 Рік тому +6

      Hate to break it to you. But almost every other supercar brand has made a new car that beats it in the 1/4 mile… mclaren 765lt destroys it. 720s could beat it in good conditions. Ferrari sf90 destroys it. So it doesnt take a lot. And dont come with the excuse that they have more hp. Cuz that defenetly isnt everything in a dragrace.

    • @ilmiosmani3689
      @ilmiosmani3689 Рік тому +27

      @@stijnvanhees5281 720 and 765 are more expensive ,sf90 is a hypercar 500000+ 911turbo s is the king

    • @sdoubleu210
      @sdoubleu210 Рік тому +41

      @@stijnvanhees5281 thanks for taking the time to inadvertently prove my point...it takes 3-4x more money for another manufacturer to beat it...cheers

    • @stijnvanhees5281
      @stijnvanhees5281 Рік тому

      @@sdoubleu210 that doesnt have to do anything with performance. Just the manufacturers choice. A 765lt or a sf90 are way rarer than a turbo s.

    • @sdoubleu210
      @sdoubleu210 Рік тому +25

      @@stijnvanhees5281 so youre telling me the SF90 and 765LT could be engineered, produced, and sold for a profit at the same price as a Turbo S? lololol. Speaking of things that have nothing to do with performance, why is rarity even being mentioned? I think youre trying to troll me, but youre effectively trolling yourself.

  • @worgle123
    @worgle123 Рік тому +4

    Hey Mat! I was intrigued when I saw the final race. The time extracted from the Turbo S surprises me. I have seen you run 10.1's with this car on this channel many times before. Who was driving it?
    Thanks for another wonderful video as always!

  • @florianhaffner3910
    @florianhaffner3910 Рік тому +1431

    It always feels like 1 Porsche PS is like 1.5 real hp. Absolute engineering masterpiece

    • @chainsaw_2622
      @chainsaw_2622 Рік тому

      Porsche has 658 hp ua-cam.com/video/_b9IYQdwExY/v-deo.html dyno at 34:28

    • @Tom-js3iz
      @Tom-js3iz Рік тому +13

      Aerodynamics

    • @Mvrk63
      @Mvrk63 Рік тому +26

      So why does the turbo s loses most of the rolling races to its rivals like F8, 720S?

    • @fragu123
      @fragu123 Рік тому +52

      @@Tom-js3iz … nope. Aerodynamic kick in slightly at 100mph onwards. The big advantage of Porsche one sees is actually at the start and first half, based on engineering traction, gearbox - engine - launch electronics efficiency etc.. and usually they come from factory with more HP than claimed! When I was last time visiting the factory and joining dynoing, not one car missed the target…

    • @hungvu6705
      @hungvu6705 Рік тому +38

      @@Mvrk63 It uses flat 6 and still beats the sh** out of 720s which uses V8 0-60? Why? Obviously it will lose rolling because of McLaren V8 mate

  • @DrPult
    @DrPult Рік тому +1306

    I used to hate 911 turbo S when Carwow started drag racing it because it would beat every single supercar. But now I can only appreciate how impressive it is. Just wow!

    • @StephenDeTomasi
      @StephenDeTomasi Рік тому +22

      I guess it's called Carwow for a reason

    • @ronaldgunthrop7449
      @ronaldgunthrop7449 Рік тому +39

      I pray for those who hate on things that are great and positive. Unnecessary negativity towards positivity. Unhealthy mentality

    • @bullracing1
      @bullracing1 Рік тому +3

      I have this JDM car elitist thingy going on kinda but I do love to drive 911. Atleast on Assetto corsa, huge fun.

    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +9

      The modern 911 platforms have crazy potential even the 997 cars can withstand over 1000hp on a completely stock engine

    • @jayflorida
      @jayflorida Рік тому +3

      Same. My thoughts on Porsche has drastically changed.

  • @lions000
    @lions000 Рік тому +1

    Man, that must be so much fun. Love your vids dude

  • @sebaxpromx
    @sebaxpromx Рік тому +1

    Bro, what a race, thanks carwow, we love you guys

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 Рік тому +1313

    No matter what the outcome... A standard 911 keeping close to all of the specialist cars! Impressive!! Imagine a modified 911 Turbo S...

    • @MrEndeavour7
      @MrEndeavour7 Рік тому +76

      It would be awful. Don't touch something that is proven to work very well. German engineers know what they are doing obviously.

    • @Bertha076
      @Bertha076 Рік тому

      @@MrEndeavour7 Brabus version of the car is not aweful. You just full of shit

    • @jazk3409
      @jazk3409 Рік тому +79

      @@MrEndeavour7 no bro they have had a modified 911 992 turbo on the officially gassed channel. 0-60 in 2.2sec. Nothing beats it.

    • @Omie01
      @Omie01 Рік тому +13

      @@MrEndeavour7 Lol you're speaking out your arse.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@Omie01 😂😂😂 that makes sense.

  • @alinnistor7871
    @alinnistor7871 Рік тому +823

    Another reason why 911 Turbo S is my all time dream car. It`s crazy how good it is compared with higher tiers. On it`s own tier, reigns supreme. Great race!

    • @VantaBlackSheep
      @VantaBlackSheep Рік тому +6

      Had it for 3 months in 2015 then crashed it 😢 but another one will come I pray

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 Рік тому +6

      Honestly I'd very much rather sacrifice that straight line speed I'm never gonna use on a road, for sound. Give me a GT3 Touring any day.

    • @sambuckland9349
      @sambuckland9349 Рік тому

      Dead dream car

    • @rapsheets4993
      @rapsheets4993 Рік тому +1

      Gets dumpstered by the new zr1

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 Рік тому

      @@rapsheets4993 so you can see into the future?

  • @joemaiden666
    @joemaiden666 Рік тому +61

    That electric rallycross car sounds absolutely bananas 🤣

    • @Viper3048
      @Viper3048 Рік тому +7

      It's actually pretty cool 😎

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Рік тому +1

      Sounded like my old Tamiya Paris-Dakar 959 RC car... no bad thing! Jesus, I wish I still had that 959.

    • @z1kk
      @z1kk Рік тому

      sounded like this lol ua-cam.com/video/PomZJao7Raw/v-deo.html

    • @Lucas_sGarage
      @Lucas_sGarage 3 місяці тому

      This is how any ev should sound

  • @fredericcalve3506
    @fredericcalve3506 Рік тому

    Hey, Mat! would it be possible to see a brake test/second brake test but at a slower speed. Like 50-70km/h. I would LOVEE to see how quick a Porshe would brake in a more everyday life senario. Love the vids

  • @gtbr24
    @gtbr24 Рік тому +765

    As always, these drag races just reiterate how amazing the Turbo S is 😁

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Рік тому +8

      It's clearly not making full 1100HP, or it'd be faster. 1100HP GTR's run way faster in the quarter mile buddy

    • @currycel470
      @currycel470 Рік тому +24

      @@roboticvenom1935 maybe it was not on drag strip bud?

    • @Deniz69567
      @Deniz69567 Рік тому +12

      @@roboticvenom1935 those insane hp count could only belong to drag strips

    • @gtbr24
      @gtbr24 Рік тому +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 yeah probably true, the GTR is also much more entertaining to watch. The versatility of the 911 and where it can be driven fast is what sets it apart though.

    • @Boeing-ER-jy9vq
      @Boeing-ER-jy9vq Рік тому +16

      @@roboticvenom1935 jdm kids amirite

  • @kazthedon
    @kazthedon Рік тому +490

    Love how the 911 Turbo S has become the SI unit of stock ICE drag cars.

    • @harrysingh199
      @harrysingh199 Рік тому +11

      i know right. Earlier it used to be the GTR in the previous decade

    • @justinl2009
      @justinl2009 Рік тому +1

      @@harrysingh199 A passing of the torch, if you will.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Рік тому

      @@harrysingh199 GTR and Porsche both underrated.

    • @faaizx
      @faaizx Рік тому +4

      @@damarfadlan9251 they r most definitely not "underrated"

    • @MyRealName
      @MyRealName Рік тому

      you can just use the word benchmark and avoid sounding silly :)

  • @mattgreen9507
    @mattgreen9507 Рік тому

    Curious to know why you stopped at the half mile, you used to do the full mile too. I'm also curious to know why you think tuning the engine would effect the stopping power, I don't think it's effected the weight so the stopping distance would be the same.. wouldn't it?

  • @peaceful4you408
    @peaceful4you408 Рік тому +3

    Any Turbo S is a beast. You literally don’t have to do anything to them. They already come super fast from the factory.

  • @vm53506
    @vm53506 Рік тому +1850

    I just cannot get over how well engineered the 911 is. It seems as though no matter what you throw at it, a bone stock 911 will always fair well.

    • @inguspodnieks5040
      @inguspodnieks5040 Рік тому +37

      Yup , if i ever see stock cars and one of them is 911 my money is on it, if its racing cars vs 1200hp and it has 800-900 id still bet my money on the porsche

    • @MrJrolon1975
      @MrJrolon1975 Рік тому +33

      You imagine the 911 with a simple tune? It would obliterate those other cars.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Рік тому +14

      @@MrJrolon1975
      Agreed. And I'm willing to bet only a mild tune would be needed to allow it to do so. Porsche, just incredible cars.

    • @djbis
      @djbis Рік тому +8

      throw a real race track in the mix with proper turns, etc and the Porsche really has no contest.

    • @inguspodnieks5040
      @inguspodnieks5040 Рік тому +4

      @@djbis oh yea how about , racing porsches? Aint porsche the most successful racing car of all time 😂?

  • @stanleysimmonsreactions9056
    @stanleysimmonsreactions9056 Рік тому +791

    I am actually more impressed with the 911 more than anything! Has almost half the hp as the GTR and was holding its own on the drag race, Not to mention it stopped almost as the same distance as a race car!

    • @theweeknd2725
      @theweeknd2725 Рік тому +12

      That GTR is making so much black smoke, it'll make someone sick god sake lol
      I prefer standard cars

    • @coreylucas6273
      @coreylucas6273 Рік тому +4

      @@theweeknd2725 In this day and age that gtr is a standard car unless you mean stock?

    • @pollumG
      @pollumG Рік тому +4

      @@coreylucas6273 stock lol...Americanisms

    • @quicksilverst2506
      @quicksilverst2506 Рік тому +5

      Ya i agree, if the Porsche has even close the HP and NM as the GTR..o boy it will be destroyed.

    • @Miv51miv51
      @Miv51miv51 Рік тому +11

      And it has run 10.1's on carwow in the past. Just as the rallycar does here. If memory serves. It's just all about that traction with this amount of power.

  • @roilev
    @roilev Рік тому

    Never seen closer drag races! From so different cars

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers Рік тому +4

    Standard 911 Turbo S is an amazing car.
    The fact it only just get beat by a 1100bhp tuned supercar, and a dedicated, lightweight, rallycross machine is just unreal.
    911 what a car !!!

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +575

    The way how that Porsche 911 Turbo S launch is absolutely insane!

    • @andyhulme2274
      @andyhulme2274 Рік тому +8

      It's 4 wheel drive and it's engine is over the back wheels which equals traction off the line

    • @Ren_1106
      @Ren_1106 Рік тому +5

      4 wheel drive + engine at the back.
      Launching the car is nothing to be excited about.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Рік тому +1

      @@Ren_1106 yep. Its just a straight up drag race.

    • @broaction5343
      @broaction5343 Рік тому +3

      Why? You already know what time it can do, why it’s still surprising?

    • @Markcain268
      @Markcain268 Рік тому

      It's a fast motor, though my licence wouldn't last long if I had one lol

  • @rinkashi101
    @rinkashi101 Рік тому +575

    Level of fine tuning for grip, torque and power distribution on 911 is insane. Takes off like a rocket

    • @krombopulosmichael6162
      @krombopulosmichael6162 Рік тому

      ….still looses to a 4 door Tesla 😂

    • @rinkashi101
      @rinkashi101 Рік тому +5

      @@krombopulosmichael6162 looses what?

    • @krombopulosmichael6162
      @krombopulosmichael6162 Рік тому

      @@rinkashi101 a drag race.

    • @Randommmmm204
      @Randommmmm204 Рік тому +20

      @@krombopulosmichael6162 1100hp 4 door Tesla. That's a supercar mate.

    • @rinkashi101
      @rinkashi101 Рік тому +39

      @@krombopulosmichael6162 I'm talking about proper piece of machinery, not some battery charged boring car. What are you talking about?
      Name one idiot who would choose tesla over 911 lol

  • @rangelfakov1699
    @rangelfakov1699 Рік тому +6

    This test shows again how brutal this Porsche is!

  • @fireoil
    @fireoil Рік тому

    I wonder why some porsche have discontinued rear light bar where some have

  • @sompisiphinda1417
    @sompisiphinda1417 Рік тому +390

    So the 911 Turbo S has almost 50% less power than the GTR but could keep up like that. That's an amazing performance there by Porsche.

    • @spongy179
      @spongy179 Рік тому +7

      Hp doesnt matter, but still the Porsche is a machine

    • @jody024
      @jody024 Рік тому +13

      GT-Rs are so shitty, lol.

    • @spongy179
      @spongy179 Рік тому +29

      @@jody024 thats why they do 2.9 0-100 with 600 hp

    • @spork8721
      @spork8721 Рік тому +10

      @@jody024 better than whatever shitbox you drive thats for sure

    • @joaquingomez780
      @joaquingomez780 Рік тому +2

      @@jody024 it:s and old car and still has juice

  • @ryandunigan5766
    @ryandunigan5766 Рік тому +298

    That 911 turbo is absolutely insane! So impressive for a stock car to keep up with a race car and a gtr with 1100 hp!!

    • @akinciyildiz8405
      @akinciyildiz8405 Рік тому

      1100 bg değildir Gtr muhtemelen kısıtlanmıştır yüksek barda çok fark atar Gtr 😁

    • @danielstuurman2770
      @danielstuurman2770 Рік тому +7

      The Porsche is so effortless and comfortable, it really is the ultimate daily sports car

    • @drrightwing4435
      @drrightwing4435 Рік тому +10

      That’s because the gtr doesn’t have a 1000hp

    • @vr6one
      @vr6one Рік тому +5

      @@drrightwing4435 no it has 1100hp

    • @habbas5833
      @habbas5833 Рік тому +7

      The Porsche costs 50 grand more than the modded GTR, so it's not very impressive at all.

  • @mihaipletea2145
    @mihaipletea2145 Рік тому

    Second round, Mat check and frustrated : "That Porsche's ahead!!!" Amazing! :))

  • @JesseTheFoote
    @JesseTheFoote Рік тому +6

    That turbo s is ever impressive. As a stock vehicle to be keeping up with the other vehicles is insane.

  • @egodewav7810
    @egodewav7810 Рік тому +184

    That 911 must be performance car of the year. Ever since it came out its been incredibly difficult to beat and noticeably a jump in car engineering

  • @naturalgainzzz7005
    @naturalgainzzz7005 Рік тому +365

    It's impressive how that rally car was holding charge every race and not losing a ton of power..GTR ofcourse had the top end speed advantage with all that HP and that 911 turbo s for stock is madness I mean what if it just had a down pipe and tune would it have possibly won ya know?

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    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +23

      You have to respect the gtr though, it's now a 15yr old car which means it was probably designed 20yrs ago (technology, materials ect) and with a few mods it can still beat the best

    • @radoslavborisov2469
      @radoslavborisov2469 Рік тому +10

      the best time carwow have done in the 911 is 10.0 so if mat launched it it was going to win you know

    • @realjoshuaW
      @realjoshuaW Рік тому +9

      @@stktriz it’s the latest gtr though 2018 model much better and way different than the original 2007/2008 model

    • @splenced7091
      @splenced7091 Рік тому +12

      @@stktriz “15 yr old car” “a few mods” you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about

  • @54spatula
    @54spatula Рік тому +7

    That 911 turbo S is a landmark piece of engineering. The last hurrah before the sad death of the internal combustion engine!

  • @iNastyyyHD
    @iNastyyyHD Рік тому +1

    Those drag races show how awesome is the 911 Turbo S. Can wait to get mine 2023

  • @tkmwong020480
    @tkmwong020480 Рік тому +719

    I remember Matt doing Drag race multiple times in the 992 Turbo S and managed to cross the line in 10.1 seconds, so 10.4 wasn't the greatest it could do.

    • @wmarsh32
      @wmarsh32 Рік тому +16

      I remember aswell. Bet you didn't win a prize

    • @patriksakic5583
      @patriksakic5583 Рік тому +44

      It actually did 10 dead once. Impressive car indeed

    • @tkmwong020480
      @tkmwong020480 Рік тому +6

      @@wmarsh32 It's a SCAM mate.

    • @41Mike
      @41Mike Рік тому +5

      @@tkmwong020480 Other Driver, Full tank or higher temperatures can increase the Time. Maybe this time it was not a perfect run. 0,3s is nothing, it could be everything.

    • @riptiide9285
      @riptiide9285 Рік тому +4

      yep, but whatever factors that worked against the porsche this race also work against the other cars too. I'm sure the rally car could've hit 9's

  • @tornado1598
    @tornado1598 Рік тому +200

    That 911 turbo has done the quarter mile in 10.1sec also. For a standard car with the least amount of power and to come that close i would pick the porsche any day of the week.... if I could afford it that is😊

    • @Uncrowned_King_Benz
      @Uncrowned_King_Benz Рік тому +2

      For a cheaper price than the 911 turbo S with better times, why not a Tesla S Plaid?

    • @tornado1598
      @tornado1598 Рік тому +31

      @@Uncrowned_King_Benz because its electric

    • @london651
      @london651 Рік тому +5

      Meanwhile I'm like....you know you could tune that porsche too right? 😂

    • @radoslavborisov2469
      @radoslavborisov2469 Рік тому +18

      @@Uncrowned_King_Benz lots of reasons . the tesla is electric, less fun,worse build quality than the 911.The intresting thing is the 911 isnt build for straight unlike the tesla and a lot of other cars

    • @m3e92ismydreamcar
      @m3e92ismydreamcar Рік тому +3

      @@tornado1598 Based

  • @luccadornellas5042
    @luccadornellas5042 Рік тому +1

    Those Nitro RX and GT-R *ARE AWESOME BEASTS!*

  • @xserttv
    @xserttv Рік тому

    you guys should get a drone in the air next to the finish line so when races are super close like some that were in this video, we would be able to have a birds-eye view of the finish and action replay.

  • @ab_carz
    @ab_carz Рік тому +272

    That 992 turbo S never fails to amaze me! The fact that the best time done in the drag race by a rallycross racing EV matches the best time done by a stock 911 Turbo S with such a deficit in power is just amazing.. and it can keep on launching perfectly over and over and over 😀

    • @magbarkinkho3282
      @magbarkinkho3282 Рік тому

      we are waiting for the hybrid, considering how it rides in the sport mode 918 9.4c which was not made for racing, it rides so fast, but how the 911 will go, which has been being worked on for 50 years, I saw a chela who wrote that a new gtr will come out that will be faster than 911 like last time, but this one since they won’t succeed in my opinion, even considering that there is the fastest train on the Porsche side, that is, Rimac, I’m afraid to imagine how he will go if one person said that millions were invested in 911 to reduce power, what will they succeed this time😨😅

    • @Insignia-pp1eh
      @Insignia-pp1eh Рік тому +5

      The 911 is supposed to do 10.1 and it did 10.4 WTF

    • @xoledas8909
      @xoledas8909 Рік тому +1

      the 911 did 10.1s in the video against mclaren 720 so reaction time

    • @garrylong2993
      @garrylong2993 Рік тому +6

      @@Insignia-pp1eh depends on conditions, probably more dust or grip.

    • @radoslavborisov2469
      @radoslavborisov2469 Рік тому +1

      @@Insignia-pp1eh it once did 10.0 on carwow its just the driver

  • @labibmanzar8559
    @labibmanzar8559 Рік тому +274

    Wow... I didnt know 650 hp can keep up with 1100hp. Well done porsche

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Рік тому +51

      It's clearly not making full 1100HP, or it'd be faster. 1100HP GTR's run way faster in the quarter mile buddy

    • @julienmartin286
      @julienmartin286 Рік тому +37

      @@roboticvenom1935 and the turbo s is capable of 10.2 on their airway

    • @DS-vx3wf
      @DS-vx3wf Рік тому +51

      ​@@roboticvenom1935 copy pasting the same comment who praise Porsches...smh..

    • @Boeing-ER-jy9vq
      @Boeing-ER-jy9vq Рік тому +36

      @@roboticvenom1935 stop commenting on every comment jdm kid

    • @Grindjuls
      @Grindjuls Рік тому +18

      @@julienmartin286 I believe it even did a 10.1 there

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork Рік тому

    Great drag race in a while now to be fair…… really 😂 that Mat ended up in the next field with his brake test 😜

  • @Pedro5antos_
    @Pedro5antos_ Рік тому

    This was really interesting! Awesome

  • @eEnzo0
    @eEnzo0 Рік тому +103

    You only need 150+ hp extra for electric to beat a stock Turbo S and over 400hp to a GTR.
    That Turbo S is an engineering masterpiece

    • @derekpaisley620
      @derekpaisley620 Рік тому +1

      Very good race, but i am bias as i have a 800whp gtr. The JM signature build that is on the gtr on pump fuel takes the win. Launching is always an issue, the 911 is epic at Launch, hence its great times. 1100 is normally the race fuel map. So if on 99 will be 1000. Most gtrs are set up on syvecs and will be set for soft Launch as it's hard to get good traction on this surface. I have fully built box and sending it quite hard nets me a 10.2 ( a 9 soon on same type if surface). The point is great upgrade for 45k

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +2

      More like u need Stage 4 turbo upgrade to stand a chance against a Porsche.

    • @PowerToMinds
      @PowerToMinds Рік тому

      But the Porsche is overpriced obv your gonna get something out of it 💀

    • @fairuzraz2468
      @fairuzraz2468 Рік тому

      Well, the cost for the GTR in the end is still way cheaper than Turbo S after all that tuning, so....

    • @eEnzo0
      @eEnzo0 Рік тому +3

      @@fairuzraz2468, that's the first tuned reliable GTR that managed to race till the end. That Turbo S will drive daily and you can launch it over and over without breaking. The low mileage on the GTR should tell you many things. You drive it, you break it. Ez
      LE: I'd take the Porsche any day, any season, even if it's for city, track or Autobahn. The ride quality, the performance, reliability, it's 10 fold over any GTR

  • @clownworld-honk410
    @clownworld-honk410 Рік тому +405

    Just shows how good Porsches are without any tuning requirements

    • @ejudeeus
      @ejudeeus Рік тому +1

      Cant wait for Porsche in F1

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@ejudeeus hopefully Porsche enters F1 as a full fledge manufacturer in 2024.

    • @vwjetta4138
      @vwjetta4138 Рік тому

      @@purwantiallan5089 they said in 2026 they will

    • @Heellp
      @Heellp Рік тому

      @@ejudeeus what engine they're going to use in F1 ?

    • @currycel470
      @currycel470 Рік тому +1

      @@Heellp V6 hybrid?

  • @davidgriffin7521
    @davidgriffin7521 Рік тому

    I don't think this is possible but if you get somehow get a Lykan Hypersport and drag race it that would be insane since there is no footage on UA-cam of one being raced.

  • @abbosjonolimov9888
    @abbosjonolimov9888 7 місяців тому

    GTR:waits...
    Mat:come on GTR!
    GTR:gets ahead of every car

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 Рік тому +81

    Despite having the least power the Porsche managed to keep up - again Porsche performance is extremely impressive.

    • @TopGear21
      @TopGear21 Рік тому

      And it was rather slow. It has achieved a 10.1s time for 1/4 mile.

    • @nicomeier8098
      @nicomeier8098 Рік тому +1

      @@TopGear21 It has been times with a faster time, indeed.

  • @atom608
    @atom608 Рік тому +68

    bogles my mind how that stock porche kept up with a 1100HP. honestly makes me think the GTR was running at like 800 or something

    • @andyhulme2274
      @andyhulme2274 Рік тому +2

      It has a shorter gear ratio and a bigger turbo and it's engine is over the back wheels which give's good traction

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 Рік тому +6

      I think it does make 1000 hp,but if you look at it,it look like a body kit+ wheels from AliExpress,im sure the suspension is gargabe as well....It's a bad tunning overall

    • @bsantos791
      @bsantos791 Рік тому +1

      I think is more plausible that the Porsche it doesn’t have just 650hp from factory like Porsche say. I bet that if you put a Porsche on a dyno it will come back with something between 700/800 hp

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@robb5828 nope. Its an epic.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@bsantos791 as they say....

  • @papawoody9597
    @papawoody9597 Рік тому +11

    When you look at the fact that the Rallycross car is a purpose built, race only vehicle, and the GT-R has had work done to it totaling over half its MSRP, while the 911 is out of the box and has a warranty, Porsche has built an astonishing car, and the GT-R is a crazy bargain.

  • @ruud24k
    @ruud24k Рік тому +2

    I felt like that rallycross EV was quite slow on the start (in comparison to a petrol rallycross). But that rolling start made all the difference and the EV suddenly made sense ;-)

  • @sphinxpk9923
    @sphinxpk9923 Рік тому +120

    Its insane how the factory porsche has managed to keep up with these two cars. Just being placed in the same bracket as these two is a win for it

  • @VrokenPlayzYTMinecraft
    @VrokenPlayzYTMinecraft Рік тому +48

    Imagine that porshe with 1000HP 💀

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Рік тому +6

      It's clearly not making full 1100HP, or it'd be faster. 1100HP GTR's run way faster in the quarter mile buddy
      And a Porsche with 1k HP would cost WAY more then this GTR lol

    • @napalmhotdog4365
      @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому +19

      @@roboticvenom1935 not necessarily, might be the traction control preventing it from working properly

    • @7enty7en83
      @7enty7en83 Рік тому +1

      Im waiting for someone to do something crazy, maybe i would in 10 years

    • @Alan-ww8vi
      @Alan-ww8vi Рік тому

      @@roboticvenom1935 Lol it costs WAY more because it's WAY better it other areas. Oh wait you're one of those 12 year old JDM kids that argue on the internet over 1/4 mile times. LOL imagine being so one dimensional. Just imagine.

    • @Vincent_Stevens
      @Vincent_Stevens Рік тому +4

      @@roboticvenom1935 It won't take that much tuning. Stage 2 Turbos must add an extra 300 HP. There u go. Just like the Evolve M5, The tuning should cost like 20k or something.
      The only tuning that the 911 Turbo S Needs is ECU, Bigger Turbos and tires. So stop fanboying lol.

  • @hafix7561
    @hafix7561 Рік тому +2

    3:17 best car noise ive ever heard

  • @Ceris_1
    @Ceris_1 Рік тому +7

    The porsche's launch is just mental!! 🔥

  • @RM-ub1xd
    @RM-ub1xd Рік тому +38

    I'll take a 650hp turbo s anyday over a 2000hp gtr.

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +73

    Thank you so much JM Imports for giving your insane 1100hp Nissan GT-R Nismo to Mat for this insane drag race!

    • @Sviming1ne
      @Sviming1ne Рік тому +4

      It did a 10.1 with Mat behind the wheel, but the Porsche has done the same time earlier, and that makes the car from Stuttgart the daddy in my book :)

    • @swift2117
      @swift2117 Рік тому +2

      Is it really 1100bhp though

    • @kells77
      @kells77 Рік тому +3

      @@swift2117 no way it’s disappointing AF

    • @gamezahoy712
      @gamezahoy712 Рік тому +3

      @@swift2117 it's prob 800-900 at 1100 hp it would easily gap both of those cars. Considering a m5 comp with 1000 hp does a 9.8 a 1100 hp lighter gtr is 100% going to be faster. On top of that the car did not have much pull on the 1/2 mile which tells me it's def not 1100 hp

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +2

      @@kells77 more like 615bhp.

  • @trenchxrbour2634
    @trenchxrbour2634 Рік тому

    The most epic Carwow dragrace ever!!

  • @gonzaloveloso8391
    @gonzaloveloso8391 Рік тому

    Emocionante carrera!!!

  • @leevardy852
    @leevardy852 Рік тому +84

    Genuinely impressed with the 911, Porsche HP’s I swear are worth 1.5HP really impressive

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    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +3

      Your 100% correct the way the porsche makes the most out of ever HP with is super efficient gearbox and turbos makes it impossible to beat with less than 1000hp

    • @SacrificeBreedsSuccess
      @SacrificeBreedsSuccess Рік тому

      Simple explanation, Porsche makes more horsepower than claimed

    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +1

      @@SacrificeBreedsSuccess that PDK gearbox is worth 200hp over manual it basically gets rid of the turbo lag and keep the engine on full boost all the time and the fancy anti-rollbar and suspension help it launch like a rocket

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +131

    That Porsche 911 Turbo S is a insane masterpiece! It's one of the best sports car ever! It's a legend in the automobile industry! I love the Porsche 911 Turbo S!

    • @colingregson8653
      @colingregson8653 Рік тому

      To think that the father of the Porsche designed tanks in WW2 and contributed to the Dogglebug !. What an Engineer thankfully eventually designing something for fun which made his name . I like the 911 but prefer my TVR. Just love living with my Bear !!. One day I'll have a 911 along side my Trevor. Chalk and Cheese but an awesome combination !.

  • @mrgautrey1683
    @mrgautrey1683 Рік тому

    Didn't your previous time for the Porsche come in at 10.1?

  • @edutiburon
    @edutiburon Рік тому +341

    Turbo S performance is always impressive, incredible car.
    That being said…
    -Turbo S seems closer to 700hp than 650.
    -That GTR seems closer to 900hp than 1100.

    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +23

      What makes the difference is the porsche uses far more advanced software and hardward so it can get the power down allot faster and change gear quicker and cleaner

    • @omarlondon
      @omarlondon Рік тому +15

      no a stock turbo s 992 does 1/4 mile in 10.1/10.2 so this is stock 100%

    • @edutiburon
      @edutiburon Рік тому +24

      @@omarlondon of course is stock. Im saying that stock they underestimate the hp in papers, like many brands do already.

    • @edutiburon
      @edutiburon Рік тому +5

      @@stktriz true, but anyways i highly doubt it has 650. Manufacturers underestimate power these days.

    • @omarlondon
      @omarlondon Рік тому +6

      @@edutiburon im not sure if they underestimate the hp or not but it could be to do with how well the porsche puts the power down because the engine at the back gives more traction.

  • @emanuelechiocchio2184
    @emanuelechiocchio2184 Рік тому +83

    The more I see the 911, the more I think that at its price point it's quite a bargain. It can be comfortable and silent, a day to day car without any compromise or a serious weapon in the right hands. And I'm referring to the more "normal" 911.2 basic edition. A 4S or a 4 GTS are -my opinion- perfect cars.

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    • @robertreynolds930
      @robertreynolds930 Рік тому

      if you want a bargain get a c8

  • @mubashirtk3174
    @mubashirtk3174 8 місяців тому

    The GTR in the second rolling race looked like it's about to takeoff 🛫 from the runway 😂

  • @G82Jesse
    @G82Jesse Рік тому +3

    992 Turbo S punches SO far above its weight class lmao. God I love that car...

  • @anthonykenny5250
    @anthonykenny5250 Рік тому +45

    That Porsche is a beast of a car, another 70-100bhp and it does the '1100bhp GTR' over the 1/4 without a fuss. A proper masterclass of engineering from Porsche.

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    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому +3

      The gtr has been around for 15years and was built to beat the 997, the fact the platform can still compete with the fastest cars still shows how far ahead Nissan was

    • @Charlie589
      @Charlie589 Рік тому +1

      1100 hp GTR if you don't have the proper tires, you can't get the power to the ground. Surely the GTR did not have the proper tires, if it did, it'll demolish the Porshe and the Eletric car by Semi Truck lengths. Comon sense there Anthony.

    • @stktriz
      @stktriz Рік тому

      @@Charlie589 I think it was more because of the tune on the car, ever time he tried to launch it bogged out instead of launching on boost

    • @vladiordache9701
      @vladiordache9701 Рік тому

      That was exactly what I thought

  • @Lord--Penguin
    @Lord--Penguin Рік тому

    I was laughing and thought Oliver was being overdramatic when making his "rev" noise... 4:46 I see that not only was he NOT exaggerating, the noises he makes doesn't even do it justice lmao

  • @HussainAlBalushi
    @HussainAlBalushi Рік тому +13

    Matt, for future drag races please include trap speed. It would interesting to see how these cars compare when crossing the finish line and hitting the half mile mark.

  • @gooo1762
    @gooo1762 Рік тому +13

    That porsche is such a beast. Its stock and kept up so so well! Thanks for the video!

  • @Mrreal1871
    @Mrreal1871 Рік тому +3

    This video should be an advert for the turbo s. It’s an amazing car and definitely the car to buy out of all the new super cars. It literally beats everything but the hypers.

  • @chriss2122
    @chriss2122 Рік тому

    Cruise control button is often used for map-switching, so must have a crackle tune in there.

  • @yassinerahmani7763
    @yassinerahmani7763 Рік тому +26

    Impressive how that stock 911 kept up with it's highly modified competitors

    • @cjohnson9211
      @cjohnson9211 Рік тому

      For 169,000 pounds, it better be able to!

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +99

    The best car made by Porsche is the legendary Porsche 911 Turbo S! The Porsche 911 Turbo S have a cool looking design and insane performance!

    • @adam.a
      @adam.a Рік тому +7

      Shush man

    • @reyy1k
      @reyy1k Рік тому

      @@adam.a?

    • @adam.a
      @adam.a Рік тому +2

      @@reyy1k the guys begging it posts like 20 comments on every video

    • @reyy1k
      @reyy1k Рік тому

      @@adam.a oh lmao

  • @nelucalcai4966
    @nelucalcai4966 Рік тому

    Omg the GTR looks like a straight bullet, what a win for Mat on the second Drag Race 1/2 🥶😈

  • @mcalitube7420
    @mcalitube7420 Рік тому

    Wow what a race!

  • @TechTrader108
    @TechTrader108 Рік тому +11

    If I remember well....in an earlier video the 911 did a quarter mile in 10.1 secs....it keeps up with these tubes machine....what a gem of a supercar.....also wud like to see the GTR and the Rally Cross car cream a Ferrari....

    • @kaptnbalu2916
      @kaptnbalu2916 Рік тому

      You are right! 10.1 secs

    • @madsciencebuilds
      @madsciencebuilds Рік тому

      Correct,exactly what was going through my head,it does 10.1 in other races.

    • @VMKAROUND365
      @VMKAROUND365 Рік тому

      Because mat jumps the starts

  • @crazyfroggie6546
    @crazyfroggie6546 Рік тому +52

    Amazing, so close between the 3 of them. Think it just proves how good the 911 actually is

    • @992turbos
      @992turbos Рік тому +2

      Its still quicker 0-60 than both of them.

  • @CAakshatbhargava
    @CAakshatbhargava 9 місяців тому

    That Godzilla was brutal ❤

  • @JeffNoel
    @JeffNoel Рік тому

    Never thought I'd be Rick Rolled during a CarWow video. Not disappointed.

  • @nathanb2100
    @nathanb2100 Рік тому +51

    Woah I wasn't expecting to see that electric rallycross car from Goodwood in this drag race 😲😃. I hope we get a drag race with that McMurty rocketship 😅👌

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      McMutry Rocket?

    • @nathanb2100
      @nathanb2100 Рік тому +1

      @@purwantiallan5089Oh I meant the Mcmurtry Spérling my bad 😅. I was saying it's pretty much a rocketship because of how fast it is :)

  • @sp15419
    @sp15419 Рік тому +81

    That's it... I'm getting a Turbo S... I mean if I lost against tuned & electric rally cars in a drag race, I will still be proud with how the car performs... Such an insane machine...

    • @harrysingh199
      @harrysingh199 Рік тому +9

      plus that interior

    • @andrejcajic5721
      @andrejcajic5721 Рік тому +13

      Mat and Yianni did 10.2 sec in Turbo S on 1/4 mile and fastest Turbo S time on 1/4 mile is 10.1 sec. Porsche did great job with this 992 generation of 911

    • @akhilpillay4262
      @akhilpillay4262 Рік тому

      Dew it

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@harrysingh199 the interior is king.

    • @hasangenc2922
      @hasangenc2922 Рік тому

      @@harrysingh199 exterior, handling capabilities.....911 Turbo can do it all

  • @Scwdetail
    @Scwdetail Рік тому

    Plz keep pumping out these videos that show how crazy awesome a stock 911 S is- those porsche engineers must have a serious god complex everytime they watch one of these videos 😂😂

  • @lacossanostra
    @lacossanostra Рік тому

    what happend with that gtr rear bumper/defuser at 7:33min ??

  • @pauldyer4643
    @pauldyer4643 Рік тому +8

    It's very strange how these Gtr times vary. My Gtr is running 1012 hp on Litchfields dyno and it's done a proven 9.86 quarter mile. Some Jm imports have posted 9.6 with 1100 hp and that's a world of difference to 10.2!! Begs the question did that car really have 1100hp and what tyres was it running with spinning its wheels ???

    • @Art-Stream
      @Art-Stream Рік тому +1

      I doubt Matt has had much experience in the car to get the feel for everything, so that could add a few tenths maybe.

    • @pauldyer4643
      @pauldyer4643 Рік тому

      @@Art-Stream With decent tyres it should spin the wheels like that. Mine with cup 2s just grips. Also tyres make a huge difference when stopping and that didnt stop. First thing I did was put decent brakes on and decent tyres

  • @theindianpistonhead7459
    @theindianpistonhead7459 Рік тому +25

    We live in a mad mad world now where it takes an 1100hp fully built GT-R to beat the 640hp Porsche, that to just on the line 😆. Crazy.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      Absolutely amazing.

    • @conradsealy9603
      @conradsealy9603 Рік тому +1

      A fully built GTR? You guys have such slow GTRs. There are street driven 2000+hp GTRs. Even up to 2500hp. At that point no modded or built porsche can keep up. Lol.

    • @Charlie589
      @Charlie589 Рік тому

      Have you seen the AMS GTR and ETS GTRs? Give them Porshes them smokes all day, and to shame. And the GTR did not have the proper tires. Common sense guy.

  • @lukespatola1184
    @lukespatola1184 9 місяців тому

    the fact that a stock turbo s can hang with cars with nearly double its horsepower is insane

  • @aryanchoudhary2057
    @aryanchoudhary2057 Рік тому +3

    04:44 i thought the ev rallycross car gonna transform. lol.

  • @mawellpruett6026
    @mawellpruett6026 Рік тому +3

    I absolutely ❤️ love this channel. Showing everything we need to know on cars and tuners.

  • @manuelgomessamuel
    @manuelgomessamuel Рік тому +33

    This makes it all more clear the level of refinement and brilliance of Zuffenhausen's engineering. Kudos 992 Turbo S!

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      @user-bf8yi3ky5v Рік тому

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  • @paulstevens9409
    @paulstevens9409 Рік тому +1

    That electric car is seriously impressive, a lot less over all power than the Nissan but stayed in front a long time until silly speeds.
    Would be good to have a cockpit video of it to hear the noises and gear changes

  • @fjstange.
    @fjstange. Рік тому

    Are you using Invisalign?

  • @ahmadmaher4587
    @ahmadmaher4587 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the great content as always!.
    one comment tho, if it’s possible to show us the results of each race that would be great and we will have better understanding of the cars performances. Just a thought!

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  • @jafferm1938
    @jafferm1938 Рік тому

    Y’all should see if you can find a built Buick grand National somewhere over in the UK. that’d be a fun car

  • @toniozz2126
    @toniozz2126 Рік тому +1

    This 991 Turbo S is quite amazing, in every carwow videos!

  • @Fahadfk8
    @Fahadfk8 Рік тому +4

    That GTR is totally insane, it never drops the front end during the whole run when in Boost.

  • @proalexking
    @proalexking Рік тому +39

    I love how the rally cross sounds like a massive radio controlled car 😍

  • @diobrando6680
    @diobrando6680 Рік тому +5

    That's the slowest 1000+hp gtr I have ever seen