I bought mine from a guy that took care of the maintenance. Did not abuse the truck, and he wanted to upgrade to a 4 door. As his wife was pregnant. It had 195k when I bought it. Now at 335k with routine maintenance. Did a brake job last week. The DPF delete has been done. I will do the EGR delete next month when I am going to flush the radiator anyway.
Thanks so much for your videos, Bill. I love my 526,000-mile '95 F-350 and plan on getting another 500K out of it. It's using very little oil and still getting 19-20 mpg.
Bill I think I watched all your videos I'm a gas mechanic and I really appreciate your passion about ford diesel Your videos are nothing less then priceless pieces of great diesel knowledge. Thanks so much for sharing and your passion
+dogbyte555 I've never heard of anything as crazy as the failures these fords have, I'll keep my 5.9 as long as I can, then I'll get another! 330k now and strong
A big thank you for us 6.4 owners who have followed your gospel and never had a single issue with our trucks! When I sell my 2008, I will bill the loss to you! NEVER, EVER had an issue with my 6.4!!!!!
bought my 6.4 used and love it. I did my research and I looked at it with a fine tooth comb. bought and paid for great truck never had any issues I change the oil every 5-8k I know its early but its what I do. MAP sensor kills gas milage I change that out when the soot clogs it, add sea foam to the tank every once and a while, made a couple upgrades, change my filters every time. she's been a solid investment.
2:16 imagine jumping in your truck in the morning and it makes a sound like that.. I'd turn it off, crawl back into bed, then beg god for some mercy on the repair bill
I replaced the ficm power board in my 6.0, and drove it about 5 miles ...then it suddenly did exactly what that 6.4 did.. ..rolling fuel smoke, missing, and then found cyl 5 to be dead. This on a cherry 06 with 125k.....
you prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an instagram account? I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!
Love your videos, Bill. I have never owned, don't own, and will never own a Ford, yet I've watched them all. Thanks for your honesty and not to mention, for reminding me why I love my 6.7 straight six.
"My advise is don't buy a used 6.4." "Yes I have a 6.4. It make 1000 Pounds of torque! I don't need any more than that. It's fast as hell!" Make up my mind already!
damn it. I was so confident in thinking about getting either an 08 f250, but after watching your videos you've stressed me out with all the fixes ill have to do to a truck i don't own. These video are really great. You've saved me from buying a 15'000 dollar truck and spending another 10'000 fixing it.
Thanks for the information Bill. I'm a Lube Tech at the moment and just saw a 2002 F350 7.3L with about 200k plus miles on it. It was beat to shit; the air filter housing was busted, it was leaking oil from the engine, transmission and front axle. And it was consuming coolant. Sad when people just drive their stuff and don't maintain it.
I love 6.4's; I'm buying them dirt cheap at auctions. I was doing the same thing with 6.0's for several years when people hated them while the bugs were being worked out. Now that the 6 liters problems can be fixed much cheaper nowadays, their value has appreciated. I'll buy 6.4's all day long and many times it doesn't take much investment on my end to make them reliable and functional again.
After all the problems my brother had with his new 6.4 back in '08, both of us and one of our friends switched to gassers. And, all three of us have no regrets by doing so.
I have an 08 6.4 that has 400K on it. I've replaced injectors and the turbos. Everything else is original..even the transmission. Maintenance is key with these trucks.
thanks that helped me make up my mind to buy an 06 f-350 dually with 138,000 miles. needs new drive tires but that's it drives and runs great. thanks again.
Bought a 6.4 in March, been in 3 different shops since June. It's at a dealership now and supposed to be ready next week. No doubt they are expensive to go behind someone and clean up neglect issues.
Great video. I'm running 5.7 GM Diesels in my old cars, but I want to grab a Diesel Truck. Thanks for posting all these videos and free educational opportunities for us. Thanks for helping the Veterans also.
505,000 miles on my trusty old 2001 7.3. I love this truck it is very reliable and has plenty of power. I also have a 06 powerstroke and 2015 6.7 ram. I love the 7.3 and the 6.7 ram. I have not owned the 6.0 powerstroke long enough to make a judgement call. But I will say you can not go wrong if you can find a good rust free 7.3 powerstroke.
I own a 6.0 excursion, I bought it with 68k miles on it a few years ago. I know you said in one of your vids "dont buy an aftermarket warranty ", but I asked the dealer for one that specifically covers the egr components (2200$) and sure enough, 6 months later the egr valve failed (3800$). plus a few other repairs along the way. total around 6000$. which is what i paid for my v10 excursion and it never skipped a beat. lol! all of your videos are very informative and I enjoy watching them!
In the beginning of the video you said you may be costing yourself customers. I dont think so. People appreciate your honesty because it saves them money. Another excellent video, excellent information. Keep up the great work.
My dad had a 08 f450 has 181,000 miles when he got rid of it...it had 5 motors in it under warranty....ford gave him an extra 100,000 mile warranty once he hit his 2 motor ...truck never seen a easy day but shouldn’t have been as bad as it was..he has a 2015 6.7 with 160,000 and it’s flawless.
Totally agree with the concept of maintenances that’s the key of long lasting engine,but at same time 6.4 are a migraine been their done that. The owner wasn’t too happy went i quoted his truck 😂
BTW I bought my truck after it was used under severe conditions by an oil company as a field vehicle and on a ranch. It still had the original factory emissions equipment on it and about 120k miles. I immediately deleted the emissions (except EGR which was deleted later on) and had to replace the oil cooler and torque converter within 800 miles of driving it off the lot. Since then I've done a little more work on it like correcting things previous "mechanics" have broken electrically and the usual tie rod ends and u-joints that wear out every 100k or so. I've had the H&S tuner on it since pretty much day one and I've towed some pretty large loads with it up hills. Large enough that the hose blew off the intercooler one time. Next I'm going to be replacing the up pipes and exhaust manifolds. I just had to replace the engine radiator with a Mishimoto radiator. I guess I should just go ahead and save up for a head rebuild since I can't find a tuner that won't damage them. I am considering a SCT with a custom tune.
I just finished a Cummins swap in an F350 for a customer who traded the truck with a powerstroke in it for 2 used transmissions. The Fords are ok for a guy who knows how to fix them but if you have to pay someone, it just doesn't make any sense. Worst resale of any truck. I know of 3 fleets now that have gone back to gas because the diesels just don't pay for themselves like they used to.
I guess it's safe to conclude the 6.4 is now officially obsolete. 150K for a 6.4 is bad, and poor resale value???? Sounds exactly like Hyundai cars, when they get near or past that mileage, according to my mechanic. He advised me to steer clear of 2000-04 Hyundia Accents and that an 05 or newer model around 100K is better.......... Maybe people considering a used 6.4 should also google the Maxxforce 7 (exactly the same thing), then find all the horror stories which led to its discontinuation. Hpefully that'll get thru to them.
Love your videos! I have a 6.4 that runs perfectly because it is well maintained. I have a mild tune not RACE with DPF deleted. I use synthetics and Archoil. Fuel filters are replaced every oil change (6K for me). Expensive? yes, but worth it. truck runs strong and pulls like a beast. Truck has 130K and get 17 MPG all day long, as much as 22 MPG on the way to Florida.
+orion marmion You make me feel good about my 2010 6.4 purchase. Good to hear someone else who hasn't had problems. I do everything you did...though I change my fuel filters every other oil change. I change oil/filter every 5k. I run the Torque Technologies T1 tuner with the "Mild" tune "Level 2" which gives 80hp.
+Nater389 You should be fine with fuel filters every 10k miles. Make sure you use only Motorcraft (Racor) filters though because the other ones don't fit right. I know there are plenty of us with over 200k miles on our tuned, deleted trucks without issue. Just don't beat on it and you're fine. The biggest problem I see with tuners is that the 6.4 responds so well to them that people bump the power up and then treat it like a race car.
Doss Agreed. If you beat the piss out of the truck it will die premature. I change my fuel filters more often due to a rusting fuel tank (common on early 6.4).
I just purchased a 2008 f-550 6.4 90k miles for $1500 great interior! Great body. I will go thru it in a few days. I’ll rebuild it if it’s too bad 🤷🏽♂️ Best of luck guys
I bought a 6.4 2 months ago which had 79,000 miles on it. Here I am with my truck in the shop. It was under warranty for 160 more miles from the dealership... Engine blew up. Pistons 2 and 8 shot. It would have cost me $22,000 to get this fixed. The good news is I am getting a brand new engine from Ford slapped in there.
Hi bill you should consider a way to do engine conversions with a different engine like a cummins or a older 7.3 that would be cool if there was a turn key engine from Ford to swap any 6.0 litre or a 7.3 litre I personally would install any cummins for the ease on installation I would go for a 12 V or a 24V with 7100 P pump .simple and reliable.
Strange to see this. Everyone I have met with a 6.4 said that they have never had a single issue with their truck. All of the trucks had over 150k miles on them. On the otherhand, I am happy with my 6.0 with 240k who runs like a top
my 6.4 is on the original engine and has 180k miles. I think it lasted so long because I don't peel out and the dpf has been deleted. I think most of the blown up 6.4's are from teenagers running 1000HP tunes and trying to drag race Civics and Minivans. Bill what software are you running to diagnose the 6.4s?
That's good news and wonderful. Those other folks who won't risk the DPF delete will never get to 180,000 miles. Don't forget the coolant tank cap is defective from the factory and needs replaced with the newer larger diameter spring to contain normal pressure. Those who require the power of diesel engines are stuck...those who want them just to have them need to reassess their reasoning to have one. Gasoline is the best option for now until DPF and EGR systems are either eliminated and replaced with better technology or revised so they do not cut engine life and fuel mileage by 50% not to mention all of the added maintenance costs.
Bill, you saved my ass. I was all set to buy a '08 6.4 F250 with 147k on it last fall. The video on buying a Powerstroke made me decide not to. Ended up with a 6.2 gas F250. Still like the videos.
sure wish I seen this video before I bought my 6.4. it's nice to know that I have a $40,000 ticking time-bomb it seems to run really good right now it's got the worse fuel mileage I've ever seen tho 113,000 miles.thanks for all your good info.
+BigEnisBurdet stay on your maintenance and delete your truck and it'll probably last a long time. A deleted truck gets better fuel economy and lessens the risk of emissions equipment-related engine disaster. My truck gets about 12-15 MPG city and 16-23 MPG highway. I hand calculate the MPG and don't depend on the lie-o-meter in the truck (which almost always tells me I am getting really good MPG).
I worked at Ford when the 6.4s came out. Ford said this was caused by air bubbles and pointed at the thermostats being stuck open as the root cause if I'm not mistaken. Theres probably still a TSB out there if you dont believe me.
I work for guy that bought a new 08 with the 6.4. By 30,000 it was leaking oil always in limp mode and now at 99,000 it had metal shavings and one larger rolled up piece of metal on the oil pan plug magnet.
I am buying a used 6.4, has 43K miles. But the reason i am moving forward is the dealer has a solid lifetime powertrain warrantee. So hoping if i do have an issue with cylinders or heads, its covered.
FYI a Regen works by post injecting fuel on all cylinders, the fuel lights off on the diesel oxidation catalyst creating heat in the exhaust starting a exothermic reaction burn in the dpf. EGR is shut off during the Regen process.
Thanks Bill, you may have helped me dodge a bullet, I know nothing about diesels but I recently put $1,000 down on a 2010 6.4 F350 Lariat with 187K miles and watched your video before completing the transaction. The dealership was very understanding of my concerns on the 6.4 but the only alternative they have for my needs is a 2013 6.6 3500HD with 461K on the clock. I'm not the type to reneg on an agreement so I'm going to decide between the 6.4 and 6.6 duramax today because I need something to pull a fifth wheel I'm buying. I'm going to test drive both vehicles again today and check for blowby and make a decision and trade in my very well maintained 2010 Harley Edition F150 with 71K on the clock because my needs have changed. I'm not averse to putting money into whatever I buy to make sure it's reliable and ready to go and your input on the cost of parts on the 6.4 has me leaning toward the 6.6 Duramax even with the high mileage and a little higher cost. I'm going to miss my F150 and all it's creature features but the truck was not designed for towing. Thanks again for your video. There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with diesels in general but buying new is out of the question for my budget and buying used is always a roll of the dice. Both vehicles have clean Carfax and seem to have been well maintained but also used as trucks.
I glad I own a 2003 7.3 it's got 210k still going on the same injectors zero smoke. I have a huge stack of receipts from high quality oil changes, fuel filters, oil filters etc.. I do all maintaince every 5k miles. Only if IH would bring back the trusty 7.3.
i got a great 6.4, earlier maintenance, built it up, and its very very dependable. With that being said, I will sell it one day, and the reason will be to buy a 6.7, not because my 6.4 is bad. I love my truck.
After hearing how fantastic diesels are, I was considering getting a Ford diesel because my F150 5.4 gas engine has done so well. At over 260,000 miles it runs like a new truck and uses no oil at all. Now I think I will stick with it.
If the DPF is deleted, and the EGR disabled, and you don't add more than about 80 HP, the 6.4 can be a very reliable motor. Just make sure to add a coolant filter, and change your fuel filters every year and it will run like a champ.
My buddy went this route, and spent 12k fixing it lol. They are horribly designed motors. The 6.0 is better bulletproofed, then this. There is not much worse.
I bought my F450 with 81k mi on it and now I have 91k. I bought the warranty with it, so we will see what I bring it in for before it comes up. She is mine and I take care of her. My biggest issue so far is my front brakes and steering. Thank you for the video Bill.
Bought a 6.4 early 08 build lariat beautiful truck 260k miles been deleted since 180k from previous owner stock tune just deleted no check engine lights only problems I’ve had is a sensor that melted slowly overtime from who ever did the delete they put the ebp sensor too close to the turbo I bought the truck for a cheap price with the plan on 12 valve swapping later got the parts truck and everything I need ready to swap but not going to swap until the 6.4 dies but so far it’s been running strong for a couple years for me now not a professional just giving my opinion as an owner I know the reputation I wasn’t expecting this one I got to last this long but it has maybe I got a good one out of a bunch of crap who knows but I can’t say anything negative about this one
My dad has an 2008 f450. Has 269,000 runs good. He wants to trade in on same year with 80,000. I keep telling him yours is fine don't take the chance with one you don't know will run good.
Yes, I heard you Bill, "Walk away from a used 6.4." Would you walk away from a used 6.4 that was meticulously maintained to YOUR standards? You know the owner personally, know they have practically babied the girl, and meticulously maintained the the truck. Just curious on what your thought would be on a truck like this. Thanks for the videos. Very informational.
bills truck burnt to the ground do to an electrical failure... so his advice would probably still be to walk away. and if anyone has a truck like that, they wont let it go for cheap. the parts on a 6.4 are just poorly designed and expensive. no amount of maintenance is gonna save your rocker arms, crank, connecting rods, or fuel system. they will fail you eventually. this video is directed at you lol. hes trying to tell you that no matter how good it sounds, it will come back to bite you. why spend all that money on a 6.4 only to have to drop 6k on the fuel system when it fails. you can literally stud a 6.0 for less than that
I had a 2008 6.4 with 450,000 ran perfect till my ex wife rolled it. Bone stock. Now I have another 2008 with 277,000 with the delete done, runs strong.
The Arizona Homestead Project - how is the blow by? I get enough to tilt the cap but not blow it off. Sitting on 199k runs strong though and sounds great.
Haha no mention of a low mileage 7.3 PSD as an alternative? Granted, may not be anywhere near as quick as a 6.0 or 6.7, but I sure do love my 03 7.3 to death. Picked it up in the lower region of that $15-20k range with insanely low mileage and couldn't be happier with it. Pulls like a train and does everything I need a Powerstroke diesel to do. When I was in the market for a truck I was looking for a 6.4L, glad I didn't go with one. This video just reassured my recent decision haha. Thank you. Good video!
Hey thanks! Currently looking to upgrade to a power stroke after having a 2014 ecoboost. Didn’t mind an older truck 2008-2010 that had the power I was looking for. After watching this I’m going to hold off until the 2011’s get a little cheaper instead of finding a “good deal” 6.4 like you said. Never owned a diesel before and didn’t know so much extra maintenance could play a role. My 2014 gets reg. Oil changes: coolant flush and honestly that’s about it. Never had a single issue. I only drive it approx 200 miles a month, but do tow a 8.5k trailer every so often. Do 6.7’s need a lot of attention?
I just traded my 2009 F250 in on a new F150 Platinum. I don't tow anymore and I knew that 6.4 would cost me some big bucks one day. I was going to do a delete and had it all purchased and in fact gave it away with the truck still all in the boxes. I took excellent care of mine, but still didn't trust it. I think my diesel days are over. Enjoy the videos !
I have a 2008 6.4 with 367,500 miles and I was wondering how I find out if it's the original engine. Only issue I've ever had was the dpf clogged at 355,000 but has ran great ever since. Love my truck and would love to keep it on the road as long as possible. Thanks!
I got 2010 6.4 f250 running strong??? 178k miles dpf delete egr delete h&s mini afe intake and fass fuel system 150 gph running the hotdamn tune 300 got her deleted at 165k got it from a dealer.. all I got wrong with it is oil cooler going bad oil gets to temp 215 -220
I have a 96 e-350 7.3.180kmiles runs great.new idm,icp,ipr,batteries,valve cover harnesses,starter,owned since 10-12,reciepts.rusty.white cargo windowless.2500.00.connecticut delivery possible.
I drive a '12 450 for a municipality water distribution department. Thing never sees above 45 mph and is always in regen mode. Never tows either. Just has a flatbed with 3 toolboxes. I'm always wondering when its going to give up on me.
+Cruiseomatic Are you turning it off when it's in regen mode? If you are, it will go right back into it next trip. You have to let it complete the regen mode before shutting the truck off. Regen mode is the reason I deleted my 6.4. Been happy with the truck ever since.
I have a 6.0 that is bulletproofed can a 6.4 body and cab be installed on a 6.0 or is it easier to put the 6.0 engine and tranny in the 6.4 my 6.0 is a northern truck calcium chloride has eaten body and cab away ie holes in cab and bed 130,000 miles on the 6.0 just changed ficm power supply first problem I’ve ever had
a nice clean 6 litre bulletproofed is definitely what I'd rather have than one of those. I saw some o E get there paint burned at a red-light cuz the 6.4 next to them had a stuck Injector
Tip number 1 don't buy a used 6.4L or 6.7L plain and simple. While I'm on the topic don't buy a new powerstroke plain and simple. I love fords but I will never trust either a 6.4L and or a 6.7L. Very good and informative video!
+kirk henike ive seen so many of them either blown up or just blowing a shit load of white smoke. They still arent there yet and its sad to say... i wish they were better trucks. ill stick with my 7.3L powerstroke, duramax and soon to be cummins swapped chevy.
Vincent Gambini yes but a factor for lots of people is that every 2 years they cant afford a 60k truck. and to have to get a new truck every two years sucks ass because they are that shitty.
Vincent Gambini i see your point. up here in alaska weather beats the shit out of vehicles you cant trust a new ford anymore. like heres something interesting. my 2012 denali hd duramax cost 67k new US dollars. i got them down to 57k because of my job. this truck has never and i mean never given me one issue. I also have a 95 powerstroke, it just blew the tranny knew it was coming but oh well. I went to a tranny shop and he said he sees new fords and dodges on a daily basis. he said he maybe rebuilds or installs a allison once a year. so there is one down fall ofr everyone else. the only reason im saying this is because most people in the lower 48 just drive there diesels we use them for work so the fact that you 60-80k truck is dropping a tranny too is bad. i love cummins, id love to own one as well, but for ford ill wait for a new motor new look of the truck and damn a new interior design. I can buy a good truck up here but i know it will have worked and i know ill have to upgrade and maintain until its on the right track. Like this, there are plenty of ford 6.0L powerstrokes blown head gaskets, full leather power everything f 250 short bed for 3k yes 3k, that costs nothing. at that point take your bullet proofing how ever far you want to go spend 7k on it or 10k your still under $15,000 and you have a great truck, then if you want a new look get a update kit for it a thrown on the current gens bed and front clip and mirrors and it looks like a new truck and your still under $20,000 for a fantastic truck. thats where i stand on this.
Vincent Gambini ive never heard of day one but ive heard lots of these trucks with this issue. its just a matter of time before that crank bearing or what every it is loosens and and comes out eating the motor while it runs.
I watch these videos and it breaks my heart and I get more scared with every upload. My wifes father passed away and he had a work truck that is a 2008 6.4 with 113,000 miles. He was a supervisor so the truck didnt tow anything and he kept very good care of it. More or less it was sentimental and we ended up picking it up for CHEAP from the company. It runs beautifully right now and is the full lariat package. I watch these videos and make little subtle hints to my wife about "trading" her dads truck in....which is NOT going to happen. I guess my question is WHAT would it cost me to have you guys do a full DPF delete, EGR delete, 5" exhaust and just the basic tune to make the truck dependable.
I love the fact that I watched all his other videos about 6.4s and saying get rid of emissions and your golden. 6 months after I buy one he recommends anything but. luckily I found one wth emissions gone within 30k and all service records and I've had zero issues with it and I put a lot of miles on it.
My lady has a 6.4 which she’s giving to me so she can get a Jeep.. It has 68000 miles. No changes to anything other then the tires I upgraded.. Any tips to what you would do to this truck... It seems to get horrible fuel mileage and I am thinking air upgrade etc.. any help would be greatly appreciated..
“I hope to see 200k miles before I see anything major with the truck”
*burns down three years later
I bought mine from a guy that took care of the maintenance. Did not abuse the truck, and he wanted to upgrade to a 4 door. As his wife was pregnant. It had 195k when I bought it. Now at 335k with routine maintenance. Did a brake job last week. The DPF delete has been done. I will do the EGR delete next month when I am going to flush the radiator anyway.
Love your videos Bill, keep up the great work!
Iloveyou.
Thanks so much for your videos, Bill. I love my 526,000-mile '95 F-350 and plan on getting another 500K out of it. It's using very little oil and still getting 19-20 mpg.
Bill I think I watched all your videos I'm a gas mechanic and I really appreciate your passion about ford diesel Your videos are nothing less then priceless pieces of great diesel knowledge. Thanks so much for sharing and your passion
You do quality work, and solve a lot of problems, but your channel is the perfect advertisement for a Cummins.
+99KOOLAIDMAN yet you don't see a cummins help channel talking about all the problems lol.
Exactly.
+dogbyte555 I've never heard of anything as crazy as the failures these fords have, I'll keep my 5.9 as long as I can, then I'll get another! 330k now and strong
+Murph_Derf cummins are so expensive to work on you don't even know.
+built_7.3TurboIDI Nothing like a newer powerstroke man they dont even have half the crap to break
A big thank you for us 6.4 owners who have followed your gospel and never had a single issue with our trucks! When I sell my 2008, I will bill the loss to you! NEVER, EVER had an issue with my 6.4!!!!!
I’ve had two still have one and I’ve had zero issues. They’re not that bad or he wouldn’t have one.
Chris Stewart yea his no joke lit on fire by itself I’m not lying go look for the video
bought my 6.4 used and love it. I did my research and I looked at it with a fine tooth comb. bought and paid for great truck never had any issues I change the oil every 5-8k I know its early but its what I do. MAP sensor kills gas milage I change that out when the soot clogs it, add sea foam to the tank every once and a while, made a couple upgrades, change my filters every time. she's been a solid investment.
JOHN DIAZ DE ARCE what filters?
2:16 imagine jumping in your truck in the morning and it makes a sound like that..
I'd turn it off, crawl back into bed, then beg god for some mercy on the repair bill
Dee Jay hahaha
DJ 😁😁😁
Lmao I thought the exact same thing
I replaced the ficm power board in my 6.0, and drove it about 5 miles ...then it suddenly did exactly what that 6.4 did.. ..rolling fuel smoke, missing, and then found cyl 5 to be dead. This on a cherry 06 with 125k.....
you prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an instagram account?
I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!
Wow! I am looking at buying a 6.4 with almost 200,000 miles..... Not anymore! Great info and easy to understand. Thanks for the video!
Love your videos, Bill. I have never owned, don't own, and will never own a Ford, yet I've watched them all. Thanks for your honesty and not to mention, for reminding me why I love my 6.7 straight six.
Thank you for all your time you take to inform us. I really appreciate everyone of your diesel videos
What is a shame, is that some people are going to see this video, and still end up buying a 6.4 truck.
Ford has the best marketing around. I wish some of that budget would go to designing something reliable.
+DEBOSS GARAGE Damn, truer words have never been spoken.
Mikey it just socks because those twin turbos sound so so nice.. my favorite sounding diesel engine
"My advise is don't buy a used 6.4."
"Yes I have a 6.4. It make 1000 Pounds of torque! I don't need any more than that. It's fast as hell!"
Make up my mind already!
Or what about those times you buy something THEN research it :)
I get so pumped when I see Bill upload a New Video
it's like Christmas to me lol
damn it. I was so confident in thinking about getting either an 08 f250, but after watching your videos you've stressed me out with all the fixes ill have to do to a truck i don't own. These video are really great. You've saved me from buying a 15'000 dollar truck and spending another 10'000 fixing it.
Thanks for the information Bill.
I'm a Lube Tech at the moment and just saw a 2002 F350 7.3L with about 200k plus miles on it. It was beat to shit; the air filter housing was busted, it was leaking oil from the engine, transmission and front axle. And it was consuming coolant. Sad when people just drive their stuff and don't maintain it.
I love 6.4's; I'm buying them dirt cheap at auctions. I was doing the same thing with 6.0's for several years when people hated them while the bugs were being worked out. Now that the 6 liters problems can be fixed much cheaper nowadays, their value has appreciated. I'll buy 6.4's all day long and many times it doesn't take much investment on my end to make them reliable and functional again.
How’s that working out for you now
@Davie_Jay
He's bankrupt. Currently on his way to the rope and rickety stool store
Dude, I love your brutal honesty! Please keep making videos!
After all the problems my brother had with his new 6.4 back in '08, both of us and one of our friends switched to gassers. And, all three of us have no regrets by doing so.
I have an 08 6.4 that has 400K on it. I've replaced injectors and the turbos. Everything else is original..even the transmission. Maintenance is key with these trucks.
Do you still have it? If so how’s it holding up?
@@stucklikechucklookinlikewh9501 he seems too still have it as the profile photo is a 2008 F250 ❤️ I'm getting one too and hoping for 500k miles
@@beautifulvibedynamic6155 oh yea when u see a profile pic that’s fact lol lol
@@beautifulvibedynamic6155
Also bro
U ignore his advice straight up.
Wtf
thanks that helped me make up my mind to buy an 06 f-350 dually with 138,000 miles. needs new drive tires but that's it drives and runs great. thanks again.
Bought a 6.4 in March, been in 3 different shops since June. It's at a dealership now and supposed to be ready next week. No doubt they are expensive to go behind someone and clean up neglect issues.
Great video. I'm running 5.7 GM Diesels in my old cars, but I want to grab a Diesel Truck. Thanks for posting all these videos and free educational opportunities for us. Thanks for helping the Veterans also.
505,000 miles on my trusty old 2001 7.3. I love this truck it is very reliable and has plenty of power. I also have a 06 powerstroke and 2015 6.7 ram. I love the 7.3 and the 6.7 ram. I have not owned the 6.0 powerstroke long enough to make a judgement call. But I will say you can not go wrong if you can find a good rust free 7.3 powerstroke.
I speak frankly....that was an understatement. Good video!
I own a 6.0 excursion, I bought it with 68k miles on it a few years ago. I know you said in one of your vids "dont buy an aftermarket warranty ", but I asked the dealer for one that specifically covers the egr components (2200$) and sure enough, 6 months later the egr valve failed (3800$). plus a few other repairs along the way. total around 6000$. which is what i paid for my v10 excursion and it never skipped a beat. lol! all of your videos are very informative and I enjoy watching them!
In the beginning of the video you said you may be costing yourself customers. I dont think so. People appreciate your honesty because it saves them money. Another excellent video, excellent information. Keep up the great work.
My dad had a 08 f450 has 181,000 miles when he got rid of it...it had 5 motors in it under warranty....ford gave him an extra 100,000 mile warranty once he hit his 2 motor ...truck never seen a easy day but shouldn’t have been as bad as it was..he has a 2015 6.7 with 160,000 and it’s flawless.
I bought a used 6.4. 210k on it now. Never had a problem. I think it is the owner and how you take care of your truck
Same here, 250k. Deleted at 100k when I got it. Nothing done besides filters and tires
Totally agree with the concept of maintenances that’s the key of long lasting engine,but at same time 6.4 are a migraine been their done that. The owner wasn’t too happy went i quoted his truck 😂
Tips for buying a 6.4L? Don't.
Man! Your info is so helpful bill 👍🏾😀 I’ve been following you for years..
BTW I bought my truck after it was used under severe conditions by an oil company as a field vehicle and on a ranch. It still had the original factory emissions equipment on it and about 120k miles. I immediately deleted the emissions (except EGR which was deleted later on) and had to replace the oil cooler and torque converter within 800 miles of driving it off the lot. Since then I've done a little more work on it like correcting things previous "mechanics" have broken electrically and the usual tie rod ends and u-joints that wear out every 100k or so. I've had the H&S tuner on it since pretty much day one and I've towed some pretty large loads with it up hills. Large enough that the hose blew off the intercooler one time. Next I'm going to be replacing the up pipes and exhaust manifolds. I just had to replace the engine radiator with a Mishimoto radiator. I guess I should just go ahead and save up for a head rebuild since I can't find a tuner that won't damage them. I am considering a SCT with a custom tune.
I'd like an '08-'09 with the trusty 7.3
6.4 resale values just took a hit.
+ICU2 what resale value lol they never had any to begin with.
I just finished a Cummins swap in an F350 for a customer who traded the truck with a powerstroke in it for 2 used transmissions. The Fords are ok for a guy who knows how to fix them but if you have to pay someone, it just doesn't make any sense. Worst resale of any truck. I know of 3 fleets now that have gone back to gas because the diesels just don't pay for themselves like they used to.
I guess it's safe to conclude the 6.4 is now officially obsolete. 150K for a 6.4 is bad, and poor resale value???? Sounds exactly like Hyundai cars, when they get near or past that mileage, according to my mechanic. He advised me to steer clear of 2000-04 Hyundia Accents and that an 05 or newer model around 100K is better.......... Maybe people considering a used 6.4 should also google the Maxxforce 7 (exactly the same thing), then find all the horror stories which led to its discontinuation. Hpefully that'll get thru to them.
+DEBOSS GARAGE Rich!
I bought a 6.4 five years ago. The engine weakness was already priced into it, $12 lower price than a gym or dodge. It’s been great.
15k to fix an engine? Could find a Damn nice older cummins or 7.3 for that!
Love your videos! I have a 6.4 that runs perfectly because it is well maintained. I have a mild tune not RACE with DPF deleted. I use synthetics and Archoil. Fuel filters are replaced every oil change (6K for me). Expensive? yes, but worth it. truck runs strong and pulls like a beast. Truck has 130K and get 17 MPG all day long, as much as 22 MPG on the way to Florida.
+orion marmion You make me feel good about my 2010 6.4 purchase. Good to hear someone else who hasn't had problems. I do everything you did...though I change my fuel filters every other oil change. I change oil/filter every 5k. I run the Torque Technologies T1 tuner with the "Mild" tune "Level 2" which gives 80hp.
+Nater389 You should be fine with fuel filters every 10k miles. Make sure you use only Motorcraft (Racor) filters though because the other ones don't fit right.
I know there are plenty of us with over 200k miles on our tuned, deleted trucks without issue. Just don't beat on it and you're fine.
The biggest problem I see with tuners is that the 6.4 responds so well to them that people bump the power up and then treat it like a race car.
Doss Agreed. If you beat the piss out of the truck it will die premature. I change my fuel filters more often due to a rusting fuel tank (common on early 6.4).
Just wait for it and save for it
What all mods do you have to get 22 mpg? Also do you still have the truck and how is it running
I just purchased a 2008 f-550 6.4 90k miles for $1500 great interior! Great body. I will go thru it in a few days. I’ll rebuild it if it’s too bad 🤷🏽♂️
Best of luck guys
sooooooooo glad you made this ... I've been thinking about buying a 6.4 from a dealer ..
High mileage 6.4s are far riskier than other options. A thorough inspection in a must.
Every video you make,makes me soooo glad I didn’t upgrade from my 7.3
I will stay with my 1999 7.3 till they have a new upgrade, she is old & slow but will get me home every time
Love your advice Bill,keep making those enlightening videos 😊
I bought a 6.4 2 months ago which had 79,000 miles on it. Here I am with my truck in the shop. It was under warranty for 160 more miles from the dealership... Engine blew up. Pistons 2 and 8 shot. It would have cost me $22,000 to get this fixed. The good news is I am getting a brand new engine from Ford slapped in there.
I think this video just saved me a lot of trouble so thanks for that!
Thanks bill for this video. great advice and info. for people i was actually thinking about buying a 6.4 but now i am not going to. thanks again.
Ford should hire you Bill. Im good with my big, loud noisy, stinky, 7.3 with arch in it.
+MoDogg2000 I imagine they probably hate his guts! LOL Just kidding, Bill! :)
Thank you for such good advice about avoiding 6.4 trucks. I have a 92 460 and have looked at ford diesels. Thanks again.
Hi bill you should consider a way to do engine conversions with a different engine like a cummins or a older 7.3 that would be cool if there was a turn key engine from Ford to swap any 6.0 litre or a 7.3 litre I personally would install any cummins for the ease on installation I would go for a 12 V or a 24V with 7100 P pump .simple and reliable.
I got a 6.4 with a dpf delete and a small program. it runs great but like he said keep up on the maintenance.
Strange to see this. Everyone I have met with a 6.4 said that they have never had a single issue with their truck. All of the trucks had over 150k miles on them. On the otherhand, I am happy with my 6.0 with 240k who runs like a top
WHAT A GOLD MINE VIDEO!!!!!!! awesomeness!!!! Thank you for the info sir. You are the man👍
my 6.4 is on the original engine and has 180k miles. I think it lasted so long because I don't peel out and the dpf has been deleted. I think most of the blown up 6.4's are from teenagers running 1000HP tunes and trying to drag race Civics and Minivans. Bill what software are you running to diagnose the 6.4s?
That's good news and wonderful. Those other folks who won't risk the DPF delete will never get to 180,000 miles. Don't forget the coolant tank cap is defective from the factory and needs replaced with the newer larger diameter spring to contain normal pressure. Those who require the power of diesel engines are stuck...those who want them just to have them need to reassess their reasoning to have one. Gasoline is the best option for now until DPF and EGR systems are either eliminated and replaced with better technology or revised so they do not cut engine life and fuel mileage by 50% not to mention all of the added maintenance costs.
Was going to buy a 6.4 today thanks to you I reconsidered
Bill, you saved my ass. I was all set to buy a '08 6.4 F250 with 147k on it last fall. The video on buying a Powerstroke made me decide not to. Ended up with a 6.2 gas F250. Still like the videos.
sure wish I seen this video before I bought my 6.4. it's nice to know that I have a $40,000 ticking time-bomb it seems to run really good right now it's got the worse fuel mileage I've ever seen tho 113,000 miles.thanks for all your good info.
I know a lot of people with 6.4 that love then with way more miles mine has 150k on it and I'm not scared of it blowing up
+BigEnisBurdet stay on your maintenance and delete your truck and it'll probably last a long time. A deleted truck gets better fuel economy and lessens the risk of emissions equipment-related engine disaster.
My truck gets about 12-15 MPG city and 16-23 MPG highway. I hand calculate the MPG and don't depend on the lie-o-meter in the truck (which almost always tells me I am getting really good MPG).
I worked at Ford when the 6.4s came out. Ford said this was caused by air bubbles and pointed at the thermostats being stuck open as the root cause if I'm not mistaken. Theres probably still a TSB out there if you dont believe me.
Great video, thank you and for helping us vets.
I work for guy that bought a new 08 with the 6.4. By 30,000 it was leaking oil always in limp mode and now at 99,000 it had metal shavings and one larger rolled up piece of metal on the oil pan plug magnet.
I am buying a used 6.4, has 43K miles. But the reason i am moving forward is the dealer has a solid lifetime powertrain warrantee. So hoping if i do have an issue with cylinders or heads, its covered.
FYI a Regen works by post injecting fuel on all cylinders, the fuel lights off on the diesel oxidation catalyst creating heat in the exhaust starting a exothermic reaction burn in the dpf. EGR is shut off during the Regen process.
Thanks Bill, you may have helped me dodge a bullet, I know nothing about diesels but I recently put $1,000 down on a 2010 6.4 F350 Lariat with 187K miles and watched your video before completing the transaction. The dealership was very understanding of my concerns on the 6.4 but the only alternative they have for my needs is a 2013 6.6 3500HD with 461K on the clock. I'm not the type to reneg on an agreement so I'm going to decide between the 6.4 and 6.6 duramax today because I need something to pull a fifth wheel I'm buying. I'm going to test drive both vehicles again today and check for blowby and make a decision and trade in my very well maintained 2010 Harley Edition F150 with 71K on the clock because my needs have changed. I'm not averse to putting money into whatever I buy to make sure it's reliable and ready to go and your input on the cost of parts on the 6.4 has me leaning toward the 6.6 Duramax even with the high mileage and a little higher cost. I'm going to miss my F150 and all it's creature features but the truck was not designed for towing. Thanks again for your video. There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with diesels in general but buying new is out of the question for my budget and buying used is always a roll of the dice. Both vehicles have clean Carfax and seem to have been well maintained but also used as trucks.
I glad I own a 2003 7.3 it's got 210k still going on the same injectors zero smoke. I have a huge stack of receipts from high quality oil changes, fuel filters, oil filters etc.. I do all maintaince every 5k miles. Only if IH would bring back the trusty 7.3.
210k? your halfway there. don't sell that truck.
Half way there? Psh 1/4 way there the way this thing runs and drives. Oh and I'll never sale it
Andrew Stevens same here i do the maintenence every 5k on my 7.3 and has 450k and still runs strong
I have 3 7.3s a 2000 a 02 an a 03 never had a issue ever just had to fix my first trans love them
Dude I love my 6.4. 2010...last year you could get the ZF6! If my shit ever blows up I'll bring it by your shop Bill.
Still running good?
i got a great 6.4, earlier maintenance, built it up, and its very very dependable. With that being said, I will sell it one day, and the reason will be to buy a 6.7, not because my 6.4 is bad. I love my truck.
What did you do to your 6.4?
After hearing how fantastic diesels are, I was considering getting a Ford diesel because my F150 5.4 gas engine has done so well. At over 260,000 miles it runs like a new truck and uses no oil at all. Now I think I will stick with it.
I’ve found another tech whom feels the same way about the aftermarket myths. Good job man !
glad there is honest people out there
so, buying an used 6.4L is like marriage 😂😂😂😂
it's gonna go to hell.
5 - 10% does make it to "lived happily together ever after"
Agustin Cesar if you put money in her she's happy :)
hahah so true @Don Olypopper
Worse 😂
If the DPF is deleted, and the EGR disabled, and you don't add more than about 80 HP, the 6.4 can be a very reliable motor. Just make sure to add a coolant filter, and change your fuel filters every year and it will run like a champ.
No
Every year?
My buddy went this route, and spent 12k fixing it lol. They are horribly designed motors. The 6.0 is better bulletproofed, then this. There is not much worse.
Not to mention the front end of the 6.4s look like they were designed by Hellen Keller.
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Thats fucked up😂😂😂
OrygunChainsawMassacre that's pretty funny I'm not gonna lie
I've always though that with the hood popped a 08-010 truck looked like it had Hitler's mustache.
OrygunChainsawMassacre they are definitely great looking trucks your insane.
Thank you for the honest info and suggestions!
Things fast as hell. That was badass.
I bought my F450 with 81k mi on it and now I have 91k. I bought the warranty with it, so we will see what I bring it in for before it comes up. She is mine and I take care of her. My biggest issue so far is my front brakes and steering. Thank you for the video Bill.
Bought a 6.4 early 08 build lariat beautiful truck 260k miles been deleted since 180k from previous owner stock tune just deleted no check engine lights only problems I’ve had is a sensor that melted slowly overtime from who ever did the delete they put the ebp sensor too close to the turbo I bought the truck for a cheap price with the plan on 12 valve swapping later got the parts truck and everything I need ready to swap but not going to swap until the 6.4 dies but so far it’s been running strong for a couple years for me now not a professional just giving my opinion as an owner I know the reputation I wasn’t expecting this one I got to last this long but it has maybe I got a good one out of a bunch of crap who knows but I can’t say anything negative about this one
My dad has an 2008 f450. Has 269,000 runs good. He wants to trade in on same year with 80,000. I keep telling him yours is fine don't take the chance with one you don't know will run good.
Yes, I heard you Bill, "Walk away from a used 6.4." Would you walk away from a used 6.4 that was meticulously maintained to YOUR standards? You know the owner personally, know they have practically babied the girl, and meticulously maintained the the truck. Just curious on what your thought would be on a truck like this. Thanks for the videos. Very informational.
bills truck burnt to the ground do to an electrical failure... so his advice would probably still be to walk away. and if anyone has a truck like that, they wont let it go for cheap. the parts on a 6.4 are just poorly designed and expensive. no amount of maintenance is gonna save your rocker arms, crank, connecting rods, or fuel system. they will fail you eventually. this video is directed at you lol. hes trying to tell you that no matter how good it sounds, it will come back to bite you. why spend all that money on a 6.4 only to have to drop 6k on the fuel system when it fails. you can literally stud a 6.0 for less than that
I had a 2008 6.4 with 450,000 ran perfect till my ex wife rolled it. Bone stock. Now I have another 2008 with 277,000 with the delete done, runs strong.
The Arizona Homestead Project - how is the blow by? I get enough to tilt the cap but not blow it off. Sitting on 199k runs strong though and sounds great.
I love my 6.4 never lets me down
Kenny V one day it will, or it already had
Haha no mention of a low mileage 7.3 PSD as an alternative? Granted, may not be anywhere near as quick as a 6.0 or 6.7, but I sure do love my 03 7.3 to death. Picked it up in the lower region of that $15-20k range with insanely low mileage and couldn't be happier with it. Pulls like a train and does everything I need a Powerstroke diesel to do.
When I was in the market for a truck I was looking for a 6.4L, glad I didn't go with one. This video just reassured my recent decision haha. Thank you. Good video!
I looked at KEM and they don't carry a tuner for a deleted 2008 6.4l. Is there a company who does that doesn't eat the heads?
Hey thanks! Currently looking to upgrade to a power stroke after having a 2014 ecoboost. Didn’t mind an older truck 2008-2010 that had the power I was looking for. After watching this I’m going to hold off until the 2011’s get a little cheaper instead of finding a “good deal” 6.4 like you said. Never owned a diesel before and didn’t know so much extra maintenance could play a role. My 2014 gets reg. Oil changes: coolant flush and honestly that’s about it. Never had a single issue. I only drive it approx 200 miles a month, but do tow a 8.5k trailer every so often. Do 6.7’s need a lot of attention?
I just traded my 2009 F250 in on a new F150 Platinum. I don't tow anymore and I knew that 6.4 would cost me some big bucks one day. I was going to do a delete and had it all purchased and in fact gave it away with the truck still all in the boxes. I took excellent care of mine, but still didn't trust it. I think my diesel days are over. Enjoy the videos !
I have a 2008 6.4 with 367,500 miles and I was wondering how I find out if it's the original engine. Only issue I've ever had was the dpf clogged at 355,000 but has ran great ever since. Love my truck and would love to keep it on the road as long as possible. Thanks!
6.4 still going lol?
@@joshv3068 especially with the DPF?
I got 2010 6.4 f250 running strong??? 178k miles dpf delete egr delete h&s mini afe intake and fass fuel system 150 gph running the hotdamn tune 300 got her deleted at 165k got it from a dealer.. all I got wrong with it is oil cooler going bad oil gets to temp 215 -220
KEM tuned my 6.4 charles did a great job
I like the flat tire in the back round
I don't even own a diesel, but I just like listening to this guy....
What if you got better injectors and got rid of the bpf thing would that help it be more reliable
I have a 96 e-350 7.3.180kmiles runs great.new idm,icp,ipr,batteries,valve cover harnesses,starter,owned since 10-12,reciepts.rusty.white cargo windowless.2500.00.connecticut delivery possible.
I drive a '12 450 for a municipality water distribution department. Thing never sees above 45 mph and is always in regen mode. Never tows either. Just has a flatbed with 3 toolboxes. I'm always wondering when its going to give up on me.
+Cruiseomatic Are you turning it off when it's in regen mode? If you are, it will go right back into it next trip. You have to let it complete the regen mode before shutting the truck off.
Regen mode is the reason I deleted my 6.4. Been happy with the truck ever since.
I have a 6.0 that is bulletproofed can a 6.4 body and cab be installed on a 6.0 or is it easier to put the 6.0 engine and tranny in the 6.4 my 6.0 is a northern truck calcium chloride has eaten body and cab away ie holes in cab and bed 130,000 miles on the 6.0 just changed ficm power supply first problem I’ve ever had
a nice clean 6 litre bulletproofed is definitely what I'd rather have than one of those. I saw some o E get there paint burned at a red-light cuz the 6.4 next to them had a stuck Injector
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Tip number 1 don't buy a used 6.4L or 6.7L plain and simple. While I'm on the topic don't buy a new powerstroke plain and simple. I love fords but I will never trust either a 6.4L and or a 6.7L. Very good and informative video!
+Sackmatters Why a 6.7 L too?
+kirk henike ive seen so many of them either blown up or just blowing a shit load of white smoke. They still arent there yet and its sad to say... i wish they were better trucks. ill stick with my 7.3L powerstroke, duramax and soon to be cummins swapped chevy.
Vincent Gambini yes but a factor for lots of people is that every 2 years they cant afford a 60k truck. and to have to get a new truck every two years sucks ass because they are that shitty.
Vincent Gambini i see your point. up here in alaska weather beats the shit out of vehicles you cant trust a new ford anymore. like heres something interesting. my 2012 denali hd duramax cost 67k new US dollars. i got them down to 57k because of my job. this truck has never and i mean never given me one issue. I also have a 95 powerstroke, it just blew the tranny knew it was coming but oh well. I went to a tranny shop and he said he sees new fords and dodges on a daily basis. he said he maybe rebuilds or installs a allison once a year. so there is one down fall ofr everyone else. the only reason im saying this is because most people in the lower 48 just drive there diesels we use them for work so the fact that you 60-80k truck is dropping a tranny too is bad. i love cummins, id love to own one as well, but for ford ill wait for a new motor new look of the truck and damn a new interior design. I can buy a good truck up here but i know it will have worked and i know ill have to upgrade and maintain until its on the right track. Like this, there are plenty of ford 6.0L powerstrokes blown head gaskets, full leather power everything f 250 short bed for 3k yes 3k, that costs nothing. at that point take your bullet proofing how ever far you want to go spend 7k on it or 10k your still under $15,000 and you have a great truck, then if you want a new look get a update kit for it a thrown on the current gens bed and front clip and mirrors and it looks like a new truck and your still under $20,000 for a fantastic truck. thats where i stand on this.
Vincent Gambini ive never heard of day one but ive heard lots of these trucks with this issue. its just a matter of time before that crank bearing or what every it is loosens and and comes out eating the motor while it runs.
I hot 94 with 7.3 it has 290420 miles still trucking savage motor
I like the 6.4 truck, maybe one day ill buy one and just completely rebuild it
@powerstrokehelp i love them too, unlike a 7.3 or 6.0 you can't beat that idle sound a 6.4 makes .
I watch these videos and it breaks my heart and I get more scared with every upload. My wifes father passed away and he had a work truck that is a 2008 6.4 with 113,000 miles. He was a supervisor so the truck didnt tow anything and he kept very good care of it. More or less it was sentimental and we ended up picking it up for CHEAP from the company. It runs beautifully right now and is the full lariat package. I watch these videos and make little subtle hints to my wife about "trading" her dads truck in....which is NOT going to happen. I guess my question is WHAT would it cost me to have you guys do a full DPF delete, EGR delete, 5" exhaust and just the basic tune to make the truck dependable.
You are good man..smart also...05 excursion here..enjoy your videos ..
Market place listing- needs injectorsssssss
I love the fact that I watched all his other videos about 6.4s and saying get rid of emissions and your golden. 6 months after I buy one he recommends anything but. luckily I found one wth emissions gone within 30k and all service records and I've had zero issues with it and I put a lot of miles on it.
My lady has a 6.4 which she’s giving to me so she can get a Jeep.. It has 68000 miles. No changes to anything other then the tires I upgraded.. Any tips to what you would do to this truck... It seems to get horrible fuel mileage and I am thinking air upgrade etc.. any help would be greatly appreciated..