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It's always interesting to me how riders that ride on straight roads consider everything other than an R1 a starter bike, and riders that ride on twisty roads consider an R3 a starter bike and everything else inter to advanced. Just something I've noticed from watching vlogs, you get very different perspectives depending on where the riders actually use their bikes.
In my opinion if you ride a sport bike how it's supposed to be ridden on roads that go other directions than forwards then an R7 for a beginner is a lot, a starter bike should be something light enough to wrestle to where you want it and low enough in torque to where you can't easily pass cars before you learn what to look for, as the amount of times I've almost flattened myself against the boot of a car is higher than I'd like to admit. If you have an R7 and you're starting you will likely overtake someone right before a steep corner and not be setup for it, you just likely will. Probably you will make it past the lean more test, or you will see the car turning right ahead of the car you're about to overtake just in time, but if you start on a R3 you can't even overtake unless it's a good stretch of road so you will learn all of that without risking your life. More torque = higher confidence, higher confidence without experience is a dangerous recipe. And if you ride on roads with bends in it, that gets even more dangerous.
@jtr549 bro that's insane because that's so on point!! I got a 500 then an r7 and this is exactly what happens!! So don't ride beyond your experience is the key here.
I dont even care about the top speed. The sound, low end acceleration, and ease of use when just cruising, is exactly what I'm looking for. This bike fulfills that! Did I mention that baby R1 sound?
@@adrianio1000 It's not conventional at all. The R7's 270-degree firing orders give it the sound of a sporty v2 engine, and a lot of people love this sound, especially on older panigales, monsters, and superdukes. And the crossplane crank of r1 makes it sound like a V4 engine. Overall, there is no "best" sound. Some people prefer v2 with some triples and some inline 4s and some v4. I personally am a freak for the V4's sound, but my friend says they sound like tractors, and he prefers the screaming of the Inline 4.
The bike you pick should be matched not just to your abilities, but also to your region. I have been riding since 1976 and owned many sport bikes, among them recently a couple of R1s, MT10s, and a 1290 SDR. I have also had a couple of R6s, and I currently own a 2022 MT10. I recently bought a R7 and love it. The reason why though is because in my region, the roads are tight, bumpy, slippery, and there is poor visibility due to vegetation closed to the road edge... which is full of game animals. There is NO WAY you can employ a Superbike, or even a Super Sport, anywhere near its capabilities. The R7 is not only significantly more comfortable due to its suspension compliance, seat, and ergonomics, but the low end biased engine and shorter gearing are a great match to my region's riding conditions. If I still lived in San Diego County with open, smooth, dry, and clean roads and tremendous visibility, with no deer, porcupine, etc waiting to jump out, no question, I would have an R1 again. But it was miserable here, while the R7 is actually quite fun.... and reasonably comfortable.
You might find standard gearing is the best compromise. If the engine struggles to make power above 9k, you might have to gear the bike up, not down for a few more mph....but then you lose some acceleration - a real balancing act with lower powered bikes 🤔
I just picked up my r7 today, the guy at the dealer who’s worked there for decades said “if you can ride a dirt bike you’ll have a much easier time on the street because you’ll know what to do when you break traction” he said bike is perfect size for me but if I didn’t than he said it’s definatley a little much for a beginner.
So....someone has supercharged a FZ07. Aisin maked a small AMR300 and AMR500 supercharger. There is a cap on the stator cover that you could easily make a threaded piece with an oil seal and a bearing in. Run a belt off that to a jack shaft and then run another belt to the supercharger. Ran a air/air intercooler around the front and wrapped the exhaust to keep the heat away. He got to around 120hp on a bike that weighs less than 400lbs. There is power to be had on the CP2 bikes
@@chrisp.5272 Supercharger is more compact and a simpler control system. It may also handle better because you don't have that surge in power, but that can be tuned out of the turbo as well
I don't think the R7 is really geared to the new rider in today's market. But I also don't think it's a good intermediate for the rider with intentions of swinging a leg over an i4 liter bike one day either. Too much time riding without learning the nuances of riding a top heavy i4. I started riding 20 years ago. Back then you either got something resembling an overgrown scooter or an i4 600. I chose the latter. Which by today's ideology is insane. That's why I say I don't think it was geared to the beginner rider. Not that i think it's too powerful, but just based on today's marketing schemes. I think your misunderstanding of the bike is, I'm , guessing, relatively young or young at riding at least. I think you're still in the mindset top speed is all that really matters on a bike. I know. I've been there. But top speed doesn't mean so much anymore to me. I'm not criticizing. We've all been there. But I don't think top speed was even a consideration by Yamaha when designing this bike. So I feel this bike is really geared to the rider who prefers the sport bike style, but wants a more streetable option. I'm not going to lie. If I didn't get the 60th Anniversary World GP version, I probably wouldn't have gotten the R7. But I did understand the market they were shooting for before I bought it. And it delivers for the targeted market. So all that said, I do still have my ZX6R. it was going to get a full track day bike conversion. But the weight distribution is so different on the 2 bikes that I use 2 completely different cornering techniques. I need some time on the road readjusting to the ZX6R on the street prior to track time. And to me now, a liter bike is a waste of money for the street or anything short of a big time extremely expensive track. I know that turned into a really long comment. I just know I've seen a couple of your videos where you seem to be chasing top speed in a straight line on a bike that wasn't designed with top speed in a straight line in mind. If that's the criteria of the best bike, just get a turbo busa and you're done. lol
I know it’s a late comment, but I’ve gotten used to riding a 600 Katana. I’m looking to buy a new bike, would you recommend the r7? If so I’d go brand new.
If you have a local Aprilia dealer near you, Aprilia RS660 is a much better bike. It's similar to the R7 but better in every regard, especially the tech on the bike. It's more expensive, though. Depends on your budget. If you want low-end torque, R7 and RS660 are pretty much your best choices and they are perfect for the street.
I'm honestly shocked that this thing is is slower than my old FZ6R because they have similar horsepower. I guess those extra two cylinders make a difference in the top end
I weigh abt 165 + another 15-20lbs w/ gear on, & I've hit 140mph on my stock R7 so I'm definitely interested in seeing what I'd be hit w/ a full exhaust & this autotuner😈 this is why I need some R7 content again 🙏🏽
hello,.. I have the mt 07 and I have already managed to give a max. of 230 km / h,.. and on average since new, with only 800 kms run, it gave me 225,.. that is, on average, it walks in these numbers, on the panel,. of course it also depends on certain conditions, wind, the pilot's weight, etc., however, it is noted that above 200 km/h it starts to lose power, but it will still get a little more speed but a little slower,.. , but the strange thing is that the r7 should give at least 10 to 15 km / h more derived from its design and several other improvements ,. however, it seems to be the opposite,..besides, I also think that the engines from 2020 onwards, because they are less restrictive, can offer a little more performance,..,. still the r7 is a good machine , very fun and beautiful ,.. and much more refined ,..but ,.. an r9 would be ,..brutal,...!!
what would y’all choose? r6 or r7? i’m trying to get into riding and am looking for a starter bike (or so). i’ve been really set on a 2014 r6 but the r7 looks appealing as well
I don't want to be dicking around with traffic! Am I going to be doing that with this bike and it's upgrades? It sounds lovely, but does that translate to getting up the road when you want?
Dang it's only like it's only 9 mph faster than the Ninja 500 bro we got to invest in some chains and sprockets that are 7 should be bumping 145 150 no problem and the Ninja 500 should be doing around 1:351:40 dang I remember way back in the day in 2001 when I got my 250 Ninja twin cam 8 valve brand new from the dealer after 500 me break in 118119 all the way back in 2001
I actually broke my brake lever on my R7. Though it was just gonna be $110 at my local store but turns out it's a new brake master cylinder, all on backorder except one brand that has bad machining.
See this R7 is the perfect way to utilize this 270 degree crank 700cc 3-cylinder from the MT-07.. with all those years of enthusiastic owners buying up whatever the aftermarket produced before now we have a fully faired track-ready platform to fully utilize all those mods.. it’s gonna be interesting to see how much HP people can get out of their R7s on the dyno.
They could have, but I think that misses the point of the bike. Having a bunch of low down torque is really fun. Not having to downshift 3 times just to pass someone on the freeway is nice. Being able to easily wheelie is nice. 600's make more power, but they don't even feel like they are making power until after 7k rpm or more. If you're interested in straight line speed, then just get a literbike and be done with it.
@@deathwish8339 Aprilia did it with less displacement. There is only a 4 ftlb difference between the RS and the R7 below 8k rpm when the R7 falls off. If they're not leaving room for an R9, it's a missed opportunity...IMO.
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refreshing to hear a motovlogger be honest about a bike he's testing. Thank you for that.
It's always interesting to me how riders that ride on straight roads consider everything other than an R1 a starter bike, and riders that ride on twisty roads consider an R3 a starter bike and everything else inter to advanced. Just something I've noticed from watching vlogs, you get very different perspectives depending on where the riders actually use their bikes.
In my opinion if you ride a sport bike how it's supposed to be ridden on roads that go other directions than forwards then an R7 for a beginner is a lot, a starter bike should be something light enough to wrestle to where you want it and low enough in torque to where you can't easily pass cars before you learn what to look for, as the amount of times I've almost flattened myself against the boot of a car is higher than I'd like to admit. If you have an R7 and you're starting you will likely overtake someone right before a steep corner and not be setup for it, you just likely will. Probably you will make it past the lean more test, or you will see the car turning right ahead of the car you're about to overtake just in time, but if you start on a R3 you can't even overtake unless it's a good stretch of road so you will learn all of that without risking your life. More torque = higher confidence, higher confidence without experience is a dangerous recipe. And if you ride on roads with bends in it, that gets even more dangerous.
@@jtr549 10000000% Agree.
@jtr549 bro that's insane because that's so on point!! I got a 500 then an r7 and this is exactly what happens!! So don't ride beyond your experience is the key here.
I dont even care about the top speed. The sound, low end acceleration, and ease of use when just cruising, is exactly what I'm looking for. This bike fulfills that! Did I mention that baby R1 sound?
Shitty sound, shitty power and a shitty engine that vibrates your asshole while riding. One of the worst bikes ever
Yup same . I want feel smooth that all.
I know my opinion might be controversial but personally I prefer the r7 sounds over r1.
@@adrianio1000 It's not conventional at all. The R7's 270-degree firing orders give it the sound of a sporty v2 engine, and a lot of people love this sound, especially on older panigales, monsters, and superdukes. And the crossplane crank of r1 makes it sound like a V4 engine.
Overall, there is no "best" sound. Some people prefer v2 with some triples and some inline 4s and some v4.
I personally am a freak for the V4's sound, but my friend says they sound like tractors, and he prefers the screaming of the Inline 4.
It definitely seems nice but I just want the crazy speed of the r6 😭
The bike you pick should be matched not just to your abilities, but also to your region. I have been riding since 1976 and owned many sport bikes, among them recently a couple of R1s, MT10s, and a 1290 SDR. I have also had a couple of R6s, and I currently own a 2022 MT10. I recently bought a R7 and love it. The reason why though is because in my region, the roads are tight, bumpy, slippery, and there is poor visibility due to vegetation closed to the road edge... which is full of game animals. There is NO WAY you can employ a Superbike, or even a Super Sport, anywhere near its capabilities. The R7 is not only significantly more comfortable due to its suspension compliance, seat, and ergonomics, but the low end biased engine and shorter gearing are a great match to my region's riding conditions. If I still lived in San Diego County with open, smooth, dry, and clean roads and tremendous visibility, with no deer, porcupine, etc waiting to jump out, no question, I would have an R1 again. But it was miserable here, while the R7 is actually quite fun.... and reasonably comfortable.
This is good reasoning I have not thought of or heard before. Everybody wants the fastest bike but not everyone can fully enjoy them.
Same! Bought the R7 and loving it. Safe travels!
I love how he casually moves his key tag at 120 like it’s nothin
because its nothing lol
It is nothing, it's a straight line. The only skill required for straight line speed is a functional wrist.
That’s cruising speeds on a 1000cc.
It feels like 70mph.
It’s because 120 in a straight line is super boring
You might find standard gearing is the best compromise. If the engine struggles to make power above 9k, you might have to gear the bike up, not down for a few more mph....but then you lose some acceleration - a real balancing act with lower powered bikes 🤔
Let’s get that TURBO! They have the kit available now.
I just picked up my r7 today, the guy at the dealer who’s worked there for decades said “if you can ride a dirt bike you’ll have a much easier time on the street because you’ll know what to do when you break traction” he said bike is perfect size for me but if I didn’t than he said it’s definatley a little much for a beginner.
You’d think Yamaha after all these yrs would figure out a way to get that clutch cable out of the friggin way - on such an amazing looking bike.
So....someone has supercharged a FZ07. Aisin maked a small AMR300 and AMR500 supercharger. There is a cap on the stator cover that you could easily make a threaded piece with an oil seal and a bearing in. Run a belt off that to a jack shaft and then run another belt to the supercharger. Ran a air/air intercooler around the front and wrapped the exhaust to keep the heat away. He got to around 120hp on a bike that weighs less than 400lbs. There is power to be had on the CP2 bikes
Why though, just get the turbocharger, there’s a kit out now.
@@chrisp.5272 Supercharger is more compact and a simpler control system. It may also handle better because you don't have that surge in power, but that can be tuned out of the turbo as well
2:30 you were probably 1 mile away from my house lol
📝
Best sounding twin out there the cp2, crap stock but with an aftermarket pipe on it vibes like the r1 love that sc project
Idk the RS660 sounds pretty damn mean too
@@foxyheadhunter2971yeah i agree i think it has the same 270 crank so makes sense
@@LA-by6tl damn, didn't even realize they had the same crank haha makes sense!
You should make a video how to install the Rapid Bike EVO
You need to mod the intake. There's a lot more power in it with a intake like hord
Top speed on my Aprilia RS 660 is 141 without a tune. SC project exhaust. Upmap or Rapid Bike?
You should do a shifting tutorial, your rev matching is on point.
How do you like it compared to your old R6?
I don't think the R7 is really geared to the new rider in today's market. But I also don't think it's a good intermediate for the rider with intentions of swinging a leg over an i4 liter bike one day either. Too much time riding without learning the nuances of riding a top heavy i4. I started riding 20 years ago. Back then you either got something resembling an overgrown scooter or an i4 600. I chose the latter. Which by today's ideology is insane. That's why I say I don't think it was geared to the beginner rider. Not that i think it's too powerful, but just based on today's marketing schemes.
I think your misunderstanding of the bike is, I'm , guessing, relatively young or young at riding at least. I think you're still in the mindset top speed is all that really matters on a bike. I know. I've been there. But top speed doesn't mean so much anymore to me. I'm not criticizing. We've all been there. But I don't think top speed was even a consideration by Yamaha when designing this bike.
So I feel this bike is really geared to the rider who prefers the sport bike style, but wants a more streetable option. I'm not going to lie. If I didn't get the 60th Anniversary World GP version, I probably wouldn't have gotten the R7. But I did understand the market they were shooting for before I bought it. And it delivers for the targeted market.
So all that said, I do still have my ZX6R. it was going to get a full track day bike conversion. But the weight distribution is so different on the 2 bikes that I use 2 completely different cornering techniques. I need some time on the road readjusting to the ZX6R on the street prior to track time. And to me now, a liter bike is a waste of money for the street or anything short of a big time extremely expensive track.
I know that turned into a really long comment. I just know I've seen a couple of your videos where you seem to be chasing top speed in a straight line on a bike that wasn't designed with top speed in a straight line in mind. If that's the criteria of the best bike, just get a turbo busa and you're done. lol
lol
i use to have a 2009 fz6r an the r7 seems to be a mix of that bike aslo around the same hp im stuck between the r7 an the 660 for my next bike
Hey what seat is on the bike it looks beautiful and probably way more comfy than stock? Can you tell me the name or link please if you I can
I just want to ask if the rapidbike auto tuner is plug and play? Thanks
YES MORE R7 CONTENT!
Not designed for top speed, no twin is !!! Exactly why i got rid of the 1290-Superduke for a Streetfighter V-4
Why would you get a naked for top speed?
No GPS for top speed runs? Does the bike have a quickshifter? Curious why are you blipping the throttle?
Clutchless shifting without quick shifter
@@Maysonv I understand that but doesn’t it have a quickshifter?
@@TOPSPEEDBUSA They come as a add on not pre install gutta order them separately.
@@CycleRooAU I understand that, thought in the exhaust video he said he installed one. I guess not yet.
I know it’s a late comment, but I’ve gotten used to riding a 600 Katana. I’m looking to buy a new bike, would you recommend the r7? If so I’d go brand new.
If you have a local Aprilia dealer near you, Aprilia RS660 is a much better bike. It's similar to the R7 but better in every regard, especially the tech on the bike. It's more expensive, though. Depends on your budget. If you want low-end torque, R7 and RS660 are pretty much your best choices and they are perfect for the street.
I'm honestly shocked that this thing is is slower than my old FZ6R because they have similar horsepower. I guess those extra two cylinders make a difference in the top end
Does that bike has QSS installed? If so what are you doing with the acelerator to shift up... so weird..
Hey man I just 141mph on the r7 no joke I thought it couldn’t be done I’m 5’11 240 push 5 gear to 133 or 135 and you get there
Do it by the GPS.. speedometer is always off I go 170 on my gixxer but on GPS I'm doing 159
I hit 136 on my R7 but GPS said 129.8. So yours was more like 135-136 gps
Those motovationguys are really awesome. Loved visiting their shop.
I weigh abt 165 + another 15-20lbs w/ gear on, & I've hit 140mph on my stock R7 so I'm definitely interested in seeing what I'd be hit w/ a full exhaust & this autotuner😈 this is why I need some R7 content again 🙏🏽
Yeah I’m 6’ 175 I get 130 most days. 135 when it’s below 60 she likes that cold air
I'm about the same and hit 140 flat time to get the autotuner
@@HatersNationGaming I’m 115 how much you think I’ll hit
@@abtinz7127probably 140 depending on weather
I only got 130 today
hello,.. I have the mt 07 and I have already managed to give a max. of 230 km / h,.. and on average since new, with only 800 kms run, it gave me 225,.. that is, on average, it walks in these numbers, on the panel,. of course it also depends on certain conditions, wind, the pilot's weight, etc., however, it is noted that above 200 km/h it starts to lose power, but it will still get a little more speed but a little slower,.. , but the strange thing is that the r7 should give at least 10 to 15 km / h more derived from its design and several other improvements ,. however, it seems to be the opposite,..besides, I also think that the engines from 2020 onwards, because they are less restrictive, can offer a little more performance,..,. still the r7 is a good machine , very fun and beautiful ,.. and much more refined ,..but ,.. an r9 would be ,..brutal,...!!
Good vid making a a buy this week and this bike is amazing sounds good too!
I take 146,022 MPH with my R7
I got it up to 140 just about , I'm good with that lol
These R7 like timing just got done tuning one with the same exhaust
The discontinuation of the R6 is a tragedy.
I can’t wait to get one of these!
133 if you don't feel like waiting 5 minutes for a number.
Love the bike. Jacob showed it to my yesterday when I stopped by. 🤙🏽🔥🔥
What’s the thing hanging on the right handle bar? Also digging all the mods on this bike, would be cool if you dropped a list of all of them
It's a brake guard.
How tall are you. I’m 6’2 and I’m wondering if this bike is to small.
what would y’all choose?
r6 or r7?
i’m trying to get into riding and am looking for a starter bike (or so). i’ve been really set on a 2014 r6 but the r7 looks appealing as well
Neither for a starter bike, but of the two r7 is more starter friendly
I don't want to be dicking around with traffic! Am I going to be doing that with this bike and it's upgrades? It sounds lovely, but does that translate to getting up the road when you want?
Who would win in a race r7 or Zx4rr?
Lower the ratio + cams = profit?
yo!!! where did you find the seat tho im dying to swap mine out
Its a Bike in its own way. So Glad that you had appreciate the bike
How is he shifting without touching the clutch? Hes just opening and closing the throttle? 8:10
You can shift without the clutch
Idk , I got ecu flash on it, didn't change the speed
What lever guards are those?
Where can I get those mirrors
3:34 I thought the truck disappeared
Men of the law lmao 🤣 great content
We need more content brother. I subscribed for a reason.
Your channel content is so great to watch 👍 cool video 👍
Rapidbike nice idea i like how there's no mapping / tuning required.
Do you feel like its worth it for the price or just wait for the r9 or r1 so undecisive
my guy that is the exact same road i take to work lmfao im pretty sure i saw you on saturday riding
4:12 optimus prime fight scene.........🗿
Dang it's only like it's only 9 mph faster than the Ninja 500 bro we got to invest in some chains and sprockets that are 7 should be bumping 145 150 no problem and the Ninja 500 should be doing around 1:35 1:40 dang I remember way back in the day in 2001 when I got my 250 Ninja twin cam 8 valve brand new from the dealer after 500 me break in 118119 all the way back in 2001
You kinda look like Randall Weems from that show "Recess" from 1997
WOW ! ! ! ! ! ! ! AWESOME ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Please Dyno the bike again so we can see if makes more power! And also what parts are cross compadible from other R bikes
Dude you live texas 🤠 hope to see you on the road
Oh full power
I hope soon you will review a M1000RR
Why do you have only one lever guard on?
I actually broke my brake lever on my R7. Though it was just gonna be $110 at my local store but turns out it's a new brake master cylinder, all on backorder except one brand that has bad machining.
I plan on the r7 being my first bike
I can’t see anything on that screen did you make it or not ? 😂
Where is the grom?
Cool man thanks I almost had one I guess I can watch this video and dream till I gety money up lol...take care g...
Dude I own quite a few super bikes but I have a 2004 FZ6N with a slightly defined motor and that can do 164mph
Same , shit is quick for a 600cc and sounds insane
First hunter Honda sighting in a year
Cuantas millas levanta la r7???
💙💙R7💙💙
Long time don’t see new videos, is everything ok?
Doesn't that bike have a QS?
Add on not pre install gutta buy it separately.
They call those “mirrors”?
What are those mirrors called
How *
Stealth mirrors
@@skuolosskulpsi8646when *
No new tail tidy huh?
Fireblade for me!!!
You move to Houston, you won't be able to do that, too much traffic. 😄
But is it better then the ninja 650
Yes
love the vids
Can I Have Your Exhaust For My R7?... Please?:)
Sounds like a overpowered GROM
wow.. you are still vloging??🤯 haven’t watched you volg for so long.
At least it sounds good and looks good , lol
Yeah hunter, whens the next video?😂 Miss you
Is mine broken? Because I hit 145 on mine…. I’m seeing comments people are shocked hitting 140….
for louder sound mt 07 maybe because r7 already euro 5
I get 137 with a full exhaust and snorkel delete
Nah the sound doesn’t suite a sports bike🤣 best suits the XSR700!
135 kinda low huh?
See this R7 is the perfect way to utilize this 270 degree crank 700cc 3-cylinder from the MT-07.. with all those years of enthusiastic owners buying up whatever the aftermarket produced before now we have a fully faired track-ready platform to fully utilize all those mods.. it’s gonna be interesting to see how much HP people can get out of their R7s on the dyno.
Mt07 is 2 cylinder
Amazing
First.. all the way front Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean
No sportbike in this modern era should run less than 100bhp, the R7 with 100bhp would have been more interesting.
They could have, but I think that misses the point of the bike. Having a bunch of low down torque is really fun. Not having to downshift 3 times just to pass someone on the freeway is nice. Being able to easily wheelie is nice. 600's make more power, but they don't even feel like they are making power until after 7k rpm or more.
If you're interested in straight line speed, then just get a literbike and be done with it.
@@deathwish8339 Aprilia did it with less displacement. There is only a 4 ftlb difference between the RS and the R7 below 8k rpm when the R7 falls off. If they're not leaving room for an R9, it's a missed opportunity...IMO.
@@mr.nobody5028 go watch a low rpm roll race and tell me there is no difference between the 2 below 8k rpm. Yamminoob has one on his channel.
R7 Is cool
Good looking I was gonna buy that bike but way 2 slow