Nothing wrong with the vehicle it probably out drives the GM's (except for the minority that have Air AND Mag ride) ....the issue has been positioning and reliability. This put's a 2025 Wagoneer in comparable trim $1500-2000 below the GM equivalent and slightly more against the Expedition (Ford is in real trouble here with a obviously inferior product). Grand Wagoneer is about 15k cheaper then equivalent 25 Escalade and $7k Cheaper then a Navigator. The best car in the Segment (if you don't need long wheelbase) is the 25 Armada ....
The 2025 having a lower base price does nothing for the customer if……they aren’t available yet. You can still generally get a better deal on the outgoing MY….$ I am seeing $15-25K discount on 2024 models and some still showing MY 2023 still available. You could probably get a 2024 and dealers are trying to….”price to move” if nothing else to avoid inventory tax. Normally the scenario is….”discount to make room for the upcoming My, but when Jeep inventory site shows 62 2025 JGW available “nationwide” and ALL are showing….”being built” which means window stickers are not even available.
@@zhila5958 yes but the ones that run will never make it on the front of a news story 😅😂 my main problem with these is the poor dealer experiences otherwise a dirt cheap lease on these is fine I’m sure with enough digging you will find other brands worshipped by many which have also broken down with double digit miles again those are the only vehicles that make headlines
@@MeynMotorGroup I test drove a 2023 Wagoneer. I think it was a series II in December 2023 when I brought my Ram 1500 in for a 20,000 mile service. It was a little bit of an enigma test, driving this car and I’ve had other people agree with me on other videos when I commented. This might sound crazy, but for as big as this vehicle is, the driver seat surroundings felt cramped unlike the competition. I am 6 foot two and the driver seat itself felt short. It doesn’t extend far enough out towards the steering wheel on the seat portion of it. I can’t explain it, but something was just off with this vehicle. The interior looked and felt nice. It had the base hurricane engine and it felt just OK to me. Only the carbide paint looks good on this vehicle. I really need to freestyle the exterior and get rid of the bus look with those windows. This is before they decided to put the Jeep name back on the car. The dealership was renovated to have the separate section called Wagoneer. The sales lady told me they had people come from Italy to train them on how to sell the overpriced wagoneer and especially grand wagoneer. She told me she hated the fact these vehicles were there and that closing a sale on one of them was a nightmare. They are used to middle class and business owners coming in and buying trucks and younger people coming in and buying jeeps. Jeep dealerships are not used to rich snobs coming in making demands on $115,000 vehicles
See my 2025 Toyota Grand Highlander Video here: ua-cam.com/video/iw0hjTb4GO8/v-deo.html
Nothing wrong with the vehicle it probably out drives the GM's (except for the minority that have Air AND Mag ride) ....the issue has been positioning and reliability. This put's a 2025 Wagoneer in comparable trim $1500-2000 below the GM equivalent and slightly more against the Expedition (Ford is in real trouble here with a obviously inferior product). Grand Wagoneer is about 15k cheaper then equivalent 25 Escalade and $7k Cheaper then a Navigator. The best car in the Segment (if you don't need long wheelbase) is the 25 Armada ....
Yea the vehicle is fine what's not so great is working with Stellantis dealerships would rather get a GMC Yukon just for this reason
How is the brand new 2025 Expedition “obviously inferior”??
🔥🔥🔥 I love mine won’t regret was my dream car now my reality unreal
The 2025 having a lower base price does nothing for the customer if……they aren’t available yet. You can still generally get a better deal on the outgoing MY….$ I am seeing $15-25K discount on 2024 models and some still showing MY 2023 still available. You could probably get a 2024 and dealers are trying to….”price to move” if nothing else to avoid inventory tax. Normally the scenario is….”discount to make room for the upcoming My, but when Jeep inventory site shows 62 2025 JGW available “nationwide” and ALL are showing….”being built” which means window stickers are not even available.
Let it Rot. many of these have already broken down on the side of the road with double digit miles
@@zhila5958 yes but the ones that run will never make it on the front of a news story 😅😂 my main problem with these is the poor dealer experiences otherwise a dirt cheap lease on these is fine I’m sure with enough digging you will find other brands worshipped by many which have also broken down with double digit miles again those are the only vehicles that make headlines
I love this suv 🤎🤎🤎 dream car
If you can get it cheap enough on a lease I suppose it's alright especially if you like it
Let it rot!
Yea unless this was super cheap, this one should be a rotter better off with the competition I think
@@MeynMotorGroup 100%
@@MeynMotorGroup I test drove a 2023 Wagoneer. I think it was a series II in December 2023 when I brought my Ram 1500 in for a 20,000 mile service.
It was a little bit of an enigma test, driving this car and I’ve had other people agree with me on other videos when I commented. This might sound crazy, but for as big as this vehicle is, the driver seat surroundings felt cramped unlike the competition. I am 6 foot two and the driver seat itself felt short. It doesn’t extend far enough out towards the steering wheel on the seat portion of it. I can’t explain it, but something was just off with this vehicle. The interior looked and felt nice. It had the base hurricane engine and it felt just OK to me. Only the carbide paint looks good on this vehicle. I really need to freestyle the exterior and get rid of the bus look with those windows.
This is before they decided to put the Jeep name back on the car. The dealership was renovated to have the separate section called Wagoneer. The sales lady told me they had people come from Italy to train them on how to sell the overpriced wagoneer and especially grand wagoneer.
She told me she hated the fact these vehicles were there and that closing a sale on one of them was a nightmare. They are used to middle class and business owners coming in and buying trucks and younger people coming in and buying jeeps.
Jeep dealerships are not used to rich snobs coming in making demands on $115,000 vehicles
*Not to be confused with the Suzuki WagonR+.
Yo my bro 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾.
Hey brother loving the new profile pic!
@@MeynMotorGroupThanx my bro I didn’t even notice until you said it I thought it did that just for my home firestick 😅🤝😎🫡.
no one will ever off road these
yea absolutely not 😅
Lol I own a wagoneer and take it off road, just got back from Colorado and did Ophir Pass ..first Jeep Badge of Honor for the waggy!
@@shivin1962 nice .there is a advanced off road package 18" off road tires do you have the V8 or new hurricane I -6
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